The Frankel File

Episode 10: Bravotv.com's Editor discusses Bethenny's big birthday trip to Mexico.

Apr 20, 20120

The Allusion
When next we see Bethenny and Jason they're getting in to it before lunch. The cause of the exact fight is unclear, but involves some sort of "allusion" to something or other. Bethenny ends up going to lunch with RaRa instead since they can’t stop tiffing. The pair discusses the problems Bethenny and Jason are having and how cruel they are being to each other.

After some protracted upstairs/downstairs drama, Jason comes down to lunch and they try to have lunch sans Bryn or Veronica. It's tough watching Jason and Bethenny, who are clearly so exhausted of fighting, feel unable to help themselves or each other. They want to change everything about each other's personalities that's leading to this constant infighting, but how? How can you leave all that's past in the past? But they've committed to try, which is good because Mexico (and the rest of their lives) waits for no one.

15 comments
cookt
cookt

I really love everyone on this show but its getting harder and harder to watch. Between this familys incredible blessed health, healthy adults, healthy child, more money than they will ever need, an incredibly tight group of supportive family and friends that love them - yet every week there is contant crying and argueing - we get it - neither of you have gotten past the dating stage in a relationship - I loved the show when it was less housewives of ny and more bethenny fun - its exhausting watching grown adults fuss and complain over very trivial issues - please bring back the old format -

biggiggyfan
biggiggyfan

BF acts like a victim so much of the time. I found her haggling with poor day street vendors disgusting. I know everyone loves a deal, but to need to get a deal for the cameras was distastful. Here she's on the cover of Forbes for landing $250 million and she's haggling over $20. Sitting down to a nice dinner and asking a question about Jasons future was very judgmental. Of course BF likes to pretend that she is being supportive. But if she really is supportive, she would understand that Jason really doesnt need to prove anything to anyone EVER. He can afford to just be Brins dad and Beths husband. It's BF who has the problem with him not doing anything more. Like pulling up a plant to see if the roots are growing. Bethany, just leave things be and stop trying to fix Jasons situation. Stop needing to shove your success in his face. In everyones face. You have yours. Enjoy it. Asking Jason what his plans are at this point is silly. Jason is doing what he wants to do at this point. And tomorrow he may change that attitude. But for now, he is doing exactly what he wants to do.

Ash Green
Ash Green

I thought the whole point of having a Godmother/ Godfather was that They would be the person to raise the child (children) if anything happened to their parents. I'm not Catholic so please correct me if I'm wrong. Is this not the case? Nothing against RaRa, just was confused by this decision (I thought they had already made it in Julie.... ) Or has this just changed since Julie is leaving town?

Tarrah Wells
Tarrah Wells

I feel for Bethany and Jason. Having been in this situation for many years it is hard to watch her go through this. She is not having a pity party, she is exhausted from battling her demons, trying to build a business, and deal with a new and vastly different family. My husband and I have been married 17 years and are like night and day. We spent many a wasted moment trying to change each other to fit the others idea of perfect. Now we have learned to accept the other person for who they are good and bad. There is no "perfect" only what is. When Jason and Bethany find their balance there will be nothing that can stop their happiness. Shame on the person who left the previous comment. Marriage is not all roses, bubbles, and giggles all the time. Bethany if you ever need someone to talk to I am here for you. Be the best you that is possible. You are loved just the way you are!

Karen Mackowsky
Karen Mackowsky

I have had a feeling for a long time that Jason is unhappy because he made the decision to live through Bethany. It is not fair for her to be responsible for the marriage, Brinn, the business, the home and the decisions Jason' makes. He should be the person he was when they dated, got married, etc. he is miserable and it is up to him to fix it. He is resentful, needy and that is part of the reason why the need to go home so often to PA. Stay at your job, let Bethany do her job, don't work together and don't resent her success. Bethany you are not broken, he just knows what buttons to push. No more pushing buttons- boot strap time girlfriend!! I support you 1000%- and your amazing daughter too!

Susan B
Susan B

I've been maried for almost 20 years and my husband had to put up with alot along the way. I could not understand how such an amazing man could love me. I was damaged from a previous relationship. He is like Jason everyone loves him, he is handsome and successful and why would he want me. He also is like Jason that he got very frustrated with me and couldn't understand why I had to question everything. Bethenny, let your insecurities go enjoy you husband, your daughter, and your life. When you feel unworthy remember that is your insecurities not the way Jason feels. CONGRATULATIONS on your success and enjoy it!!!!

Viewerc
Viewerc

asbsolutely! loved the bday gift! where can i get one and who sells it?

concerned viewer
concerned viewer

Bethenny needs to take RaRa's advice and stop with the "damaged goods" comments. Enough already !!! Why keep harping on it?!!! So you had a bad childhood, sure looks to millions of people that your life has changed-get over it. Many of us go through bad experiences and many of us didn't have it so great growing up and many of us don't have good relations with our parents. Put an end to it. How long are you going to keep drawing that card?!! I think Bethenny should ditch her shrink who only seems to agree with Bethenny's evaluations of herself. Bethenny, you have a good man in Jason, yes, he is flawed, but who of us aren't. Work out your troubles together, not separately. Some religious evaluation would help.

gwenfetter
gwenfetter

Watching Bethenny and Jason fight is like watching two children. They seem to know what the issues are, but they don't want to solve them. Jason wants her to be more involved with his family. There are ways to do this that should make everyone happy. But I don't think that Bethenny wants any obligation to them. That's terrible. Most of us married people have in-laws and most of us would rather do many things than be with them, but we do it because we should and our children should see that we respect our spouse's family. There could be limitations and there could be compromises, work it out: case closed. I think Jason wants to show Bethenny that she may be smart with business, but she is a true lightweight when it comes to relationships. She is the one he fell in love with. He needs to accept her obsession with her business and love her for it, but where I think she needs to change is get the business out of their home. Don't insist that Jason put up with all the women everyday. Their home should be his (and her) castle, an oasis from their daily work life. And by the way, in my 30 years of marriage, I think it would be a great idea if they developed "couple" and "family" friends that they hang out with and vacation with. This is all about building their life together...not just figuring out where they fit in each others lives.

California37
California37

I wish frankel herself was blogging on her episodes. She really needs to take a step back and relax. It's no wonder she and Jason were single until 40 or it is the reason they argue so much. As you get older and are set in your ways then get into a relationship I think it's harder to compromise. She also needs to get off the thinking that she is broken. Everyone is in their own way. NO ONE IS PERFECT!

Bonz
Bonz

My guess the shocker next week.... Jason leaves his job to join the Skinny Girl Brand. Caution ahead?

Jonara
Jonara

I see what is going on with Jason! Just add huge health issues, a fixed income & the recent death of two of our parents & you won't talk to each other about anything without arguing!! Rather than jumping into a divorce, we have decided not to talk about it until some of the hurt is gone. The hurt of our parent's deaths, the hurt from adjusting to a new life with health issues & the hurt from not having enough money to take a break will all get better because this what a "therapist" calls an adjustment disorder!! So we wait until we heal a bit & then we go back to working on the marriage! Jason has a hard time understanding that you are not a person who can connect with "family" & he doesn't get that you have spend time, lots of it, around someone to trust them. This is who you are, not who you choose to be!! His parents are adorable, but for you family is a scary situation because you feel constricted! Am I making any sense? Because you are so independent, it's hard for you to have someone else tell you what to do & how to act all the time. Two or three years is not enough to jump into a divorce, take some time apart & date each other again! Don't give up so easily, you are an excellent Mom & I'm sure that if Jason agrees to therapy y'all can work this out!!! Y'all need to stop with the insults to each other; it only makes things worse!! Look up the 4 horsemen by John Goodman, it is a pretty good guide of what things you shouldn't say to your partner because those are things that you cannot take back most of the time. I just had to say something because it is hard to watch you guys suffer through this & then think that you have to watch it on TV! Best wishes!!

housewife conisure
housewife conisure

Jason wanted to be a millionaire (in his own rite) by the age of 40-he didnt make it. But, what is he going to do about it. I can't wait to hear what the real total big secret is. Thank you Bravo for keeping us contected to B, I just love her. I do hope that she and Jason find total happiness with and for eachother. Maybe some couples therapy (jason may need to bend a tad) .

su hb
su hb

HAVE TO KNOW...who makes Bethenny's black dress that she wore for her bday dinner? It is fabulous! Great show! Wishing Jason and Bethenny many decades of happiness! They both need to show full respect to each other at all times! In marriage you both have to sometimes "fake it til ya make it!" No need for petty arguments on a daily basis! It will just break down the marriage. Couples counseling will do them both wonders! They need to see things from the other's perspective. No one is always right or always wrong. Jason, you need to embrace Bethenny's success. She is one in a million of people who are that successful. Maybe your path is to help her with this huge success! Stop feeling like you are not enough because you did not make it big like she did. That is unrealistic! Resenting her for being driven will kill the marriage. Embrace it and run with it! You can be successful in your marriage by working together to grow this amazing business! Bethenny you need to understand where Jason is coming from and take it down a notch. It would be so sad to think that your life is your business. Your family is your life!

nsbates
nsbates

how sad, this show is not fun to watch anymore. Everyone is afraid to say anything to Bethenny especially Jason. It is like watching how long it takes for Bethenny to cry and have a pity party. So many people would love to be in her shoes and she acts miserable. Get over yourself and make us laugh again, please.