We're a bit torn here over the whole Tiger Woods situation, and whether he owes us an apology at all. Good thing Patti Stanger isn't! This is what she has to say about his apology:
I don't think anything he says will make one bit of difference; redemption will be something earned over time and if he doesn't answer the hardcore questions his fans want to know about what happened then the press conference is nothing but a sham to keep sponsors at bay. To Elin: If it were a one-girl indiscretion, I'd say stay and fight but with a baker's dozen like Tiger had, cash that check now ... this man ain't changing.
What do you guys think?
Bravooooooo Patti!! A PR attempt, gone astray........Is he a changed man???? LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO NO way. This is PR at it finest attempt. I am not buying it either.
Elin, do what Patti said "CASH THE CHECK, he is not changing!
Love your show Patti......
I couldn't agree more Patti! Of course I think I'd be gone even if was only one but who am I to say? To each their own I guess.
I think when you marry anyone with the stature of a pro sport player/celebrity - you'd better be prepared for this to be the outcome. Does it make it right, no but it's safe bet it would happen. Frankly for now I'd stay as a business type arrangement and make sure he gets flipped and snipped so at least there aren't any other little Tigers running around but Elins!
I totally agree! Tiger Woods didn't just hook up with women, he said they were his "girlfriend". The emotional cheating is far worse than any sexual activity. Patti rocks!
Tiger does not owe us anything. He doesn't owe the general public apologies or explanations. He plays golf for a living and that is all we know about him for certain. Everything else is media spin and gossip. I don't care who he has sex with or what he does in his PRIVATE life. That is why it is called a PRIVATE LIFE. IT'S PRIVATE!!! Duh. His public life, his golfing, is all I am concerned about. I can't wait to see him back on the course. Meanwhile, why do you even care who Tiger has sex with anyway? How does this directly affect your life?
AGREED! One woman is more understandable to put effort into forgiving and working on it, but as many that he cheated with, no way he changing at all he will just be more secretive! She needs to get out!
He is seeking help, hopefully he won't ever slip up again, and yes it wasn't just one time, he has an addiction, as an alcoholic he is not perfect, as are any of us. He is recieving the best possible help there is out there and that says something. I am praying for the best for him and his wife. she may stay she may not and that is her choice and her right, neither decision is wrong.
I hate to say it, but I agree with Patti. He's not going to change anytime soon. His rehab could be a sham for all we know. Even if he is getting real help at the rehab, who's to say he won't slip back to his womanizing ways? I still don't understand why he got married. I think Elin was just another lay, but Tiger wanted to have kids before he started heading into his 40's. He didn't have to get married to have kids. Maybe he thought it was the proper thing to do because he was in the public's eye. If he had stayed single, he could have continued doing what he was doing and no one would have cared. Several of the PGA players knew he was running around with other women, I'm sure, but that's not any of their business. If you are famous and filthy rich, never get married until you are absolutely sure. Even then, you may want to think twice about tying the knot and losing half your money.
Here's the thing Patti, the average person doesn't care about his personal life, the media for sure does not need to know and who cares what he has done. It is what he is going to do now that counts. He may or may not change. If not then his wife will leave for sure and that will be that. I think right now the public needs to focus on what is important and that is not the Wood's marital life. I love your show, I think you are great and at work I tell them you are my favorite Jewish girl, and this is said by the token Gentile of many Jewish friends..lol you have a good show and mazel tov on your engagement.
I completely agree. Men who do that don't ever stop. You can't change them, and no matter how much they claim one woman is "THE ONE" they will keep cheating even on her. Aside: Does anyone else notice sound issues on Bravo?
It dosen't matter to me what this man does...he is no different then so many others that are getting caught with their pants down.. what ever he does he will have to answer to God first then his wife...a baker dozens or one or two, a cheater is a cheater...Most men don't just have one mistress...they have plenty or have had plenty..Because he is such a public figure is the reason why it's such a huge topic..according to God's word, "any man that has an affair with an adulteress will infact be reduced to a crust of bread..he lacks understanding, dishonor and wounds he will get...his reproach will not be forgotten".So he is obviously living in shame, we all make mistakes and none of us is infallible but we must pay for our actions and he is paying dearly.
If Tiger had really spoken from his heart he wouldn't have had to read his speech from a piece of paper. If he was truly feeling the words he spoke he would have been able to keep his head up and look people in the eye. He hasn't yet fully come clean with his wife and like Patti I think she ought to cash it in.
I give Kudos to Patti Stanger,,,for her forthrightness, her honesty...and adherence to basic values of respect....She is insightful to "reading" body language" in Tiger. His speech was heavily scripted, and devoid of any real "gut" emotion, with the exception of when his kid was stalked by the Paparazzi....otherwise....Patti is absolutely and unequivocally, correct in her assessment! Patti...You have my deepest respect in your insightful skills at evaluating truthfulness in MEN!
i think Patti is right about Tiger. i say once a cheater always a cheater especially if Elin takes him back because that means she condones his cheater. if he got away with it once, he will just keep repeating the behavior. a leopard doesn't change it's spots overnight or should i say a Tiger?
Only time will tell if he is going to change, Maybe. However, people that were his fans are not the ones with all the question. The ones with all the questions are the nosy people that didn't even follow golf! Also, everyone says oh poor Elin, yet they want Tiger to answer questions of who, how many, and when he slept with these women. Hello, that is rubbing salt in the big wound Elin is carrying around. He doesn't owe us anything more, he apologized that is enough! The rest is between him and his wife. Move on People!!
I think that Tiger married a high-paid Nanny... which she was before he got to know her...He married a nanny for and to his children...he pays her to have his kids and take care of them...isn't that what nanny's do...
Absolutely agree with you Patti. Elin's energy should be put into healing herself and building her own life again. How great would it be to have Patti and Gloria, Jill's mother together to share their pearls of wisdom and shake some sense into some of these lost women? Andy - can you make this happen? Best wishes on your engagement.
Yes, Tiger has a serious problem. Will he change? We can only hope that he finds some kind of inner solution to how to control himself and maintain, if not his marriage, a good relationship with his kids.
Now, all I can say is given that Tiger is not saying yea or nay about these women, consider the source of what we've heard about who he's slept with. What woman with any self respect or morals would be plastering themselves all over TV talking about their sex lives. It's all about getting 2 minutes of fame no matter what you have to say to get it. We don't know if or when he had sex with these women and the only one it should matter to is his wife. They all knew he was married and looking at his wife and kids, what do they think he would have only wanted from them.
For so long the media has determinded the guilt and /or innocences of celebrities. Tiger Woods is a golfer not a national leader, priest or any other authority on how to live life. He is just a man who plays exceptional golf. My feeling is that he married to soon without the benefit of life experiences. When other young men were "playing the field" Tiger was practicing and traveling the world. His career probably consumed all of his time, leaving him no time for socializing and /or developing genuine friendships. When a child misses his childhood there is always going to be emotional issue and additions that interfere with his growth. We must remember, Tiger did not kill anyone nor did he do anything illegal. For all the people who want to make Tiger out to be more than a golfer, ask yourself, why do you choose to judge this man so harshly? Why does his infidelity with his wife cause you so much anger? How much of your anger is do to envy and jealousy? Tiger Woods did not select to be a role model. It came with the territory.
First, Tiger did not need to say anything to anyone but his mom and Elin. Some folks would not be happy regardless to what he says. Next, he is not the fist nor last pro-athlete to have enough money to buy what every he wants and did. He should have just not continued with skanks after he was married. Third, Elin should not leave him, yet have him get tested for the next year before she has sex with him. The girl was a Nanny. Nothing wrong with that, but now she is Elin aka Mrs Tiger Woods. She needs to stay and use that to her advantage. She should stay and make him face her and those kids everyday of his life.
I agree with Patti! This boy no matter how much therapy is not changing at all. He is a sexual Narcissist that does it to please himself and make himself feel better. It is and always will be all about him. Instead of Tiger he needs to change his name to "Cheetah"!
You are right. However...even though he will still WANT TO CHEAT, he can't do it. Too much is at stake now that he's been outed.
Patti is more confident of Tiger and his future cheating on his wife than I am and I've been married twice. Patti should make no more announcements about Tiger and look to her marriage: knock wood. None of us knows what our husbands are doing o when they are out of sight.
Well said, that was the longest, void of any truth or emotion, poor excuse of an appology if I ever heard. A robot could have done better. Mabey that was a robot. Other men who cheat don't get to go on TV and mention all the great charity they are involved in either, I liked how he managed to slip it in. Poor, Poor Tiger.
Seriously- exactly when did we as a society think what transpires in the PRIVACY of ones bedroom is any of our concern?
I believe Patti is correct in the fact that Tiger's efforts to change will most likely fail. I think the press conference was merely part of his 12 step program which requires one to make ammends to all that they have wronged. I believe he was trying to take care of "making ammends" to everyone at once, the fans, the media, colleagues, and sponsors. Elin did NOT need to be there for that "step". He has to prove to her with his actions OVER TIME that he is committed to changing. The fact that he made the "speach" then went back to rehab, further supports the fact that this was just a process in the 12 step program. For those who are not aware, all addictions are treated with a 12 step program. It does not matter what the sin is, it still is destructive to your life and preventing you from functioning at your best. I applaud him for his efforts, but I think we all know that tigers don't change their stripes!
I need everyone to understand one thing.Tiger Woods owes no one any excuse,explanation,or apologies except his Family.The public needs to get a grip and work on what's going on in their own lives.The reason the public is so upset, is that most have had to go through someone messing around on them. If Elin chooses to take Tiger back, that's her business. What they chose together may God bless them.
I think an addict can change if they really want to. But they have to WANT it and realize life is about the one person who really loves them and their children. I have to say that it blew my mind when I found out Tiger had that many affairs but hey, atleast he has come forward and apologized and seeked help from one of the best facilitys with the best programs out there. I know someone who went there and they are a different person now, a better person. Good luck to him and Elin and the kids. God Bless to all!
Iwould like to say that the man has apologize to the world, his fans ,family friends and most of all to his wonderful wife,so I wish that you all would leave him alone so he can go on with his life so the family will be able to healand just maybe his wife will forgive him and they can take care of their beautiful chidrens and I continue to pray for their family and we all should pray for the family also.I look forward in the return of Tiger's to the world of golf and will be back to the top of his game,we are not to judge him but take a good look at ourselves and please think before we make any comments about other people mishaps but believe me it could happen to any of us.I donot know the circumstances around the cheating but I do know that this family needs praying for I am looking for Tiger and his wife to get back together and be a happy family"Tiger if you can read this just know that you are not a perfect man and we all have made some mistakes and we are going to make some more if we live to see tommorow.Prayful maxcine
She's not a high paid "Nanny", that's a stupid thing to say! It's call "Trophy Wife"! Rich men marry them all the time. They want a beautiful woman to have their children and to be seen with. Tiger married "whitest" type of woman he could marry, a natural blond, blue eyed Swede? He is very shallow.
I think Tiger can change, if he really wants to.It will take a lot of therapy but it can be done.He gave his apology and he doen't owe us any more, but he does owe much more to Elin.She has to be the judge as to what's best for her and her children.It's no longer a money issue because she's set for life either way.If I were in her shoes I don't know if I could stay.She has to think of what's best for her and especially the kids.In time he will be forgiven by the public just like David Letterman and all the other powerful men who can't keep their pants zipped.It's so still a mans world!!!!
It would be so nice if people would not look to athletes, and other starts for role model, look within yourself and see if your children or other young can model your behavior. I think this is a private matter between Tiger and his wife and children. Who knows if he will cheat again, and these low women who knew he was married and not leaving his wife shame on you, his children will read this trash you are saying about their father, I think each person deserves a privae life, and should be left alone, I don't blame Tiger for not allowing news media to ask the stupid questions they would have asked, why do we need to know anymore than Tiger reported.
@ Jamerican Diva - HALLELUJAH!!!! You nailed it! My thoughts EXACTLY - this issue with Tiger Woods is NOBODY'S business but his own and his family's. We ALL make mistakes and if none of us were ever given a second, third, etc...chance then how insensitive would the world be? Let them have their privacy to work things out, but moreover just pray for them that the treatment he is seeking is effective and the outcome is the best for him and his family.
Did anyone else find it interesting that he never mentioned the "L" word once; as in "I love my wife and children and want to be a better man for them"? He did this show and tell because he had to and not because he wanted to; that says it all.
I couldn't care less what Tiger does or does not do. I don't know the man, he owes me nothing. What I want to know is why does everyone keep saying he made a "mistake". The first woman, maybe...an error in action or carelessness. But 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15 women, etc. Not a mistake. A hobby, minus the last three letters. Good luck to his wife, she's a better woman than me.