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- Time to Set the Record Straight!
- Ryan breaks it all down and tells you his side of the story.
I heard from a lot of you this past week and after seeing this week's episode, the truth is still not told. During the filming of that scene, I simply got tired of Jeff shouting over me as I tried to make my point clear. Since the accusations are ludicrous, I’ve been trying to take the high road on all of this by not giving it any energy. Unfortunately, that’s not really getting the truth out, so to address Jeff’s half-truths head on I’ve complied a list of his statements followed by the truth of what really happened.
Jeff: “Ryan is stealing business from me."
Truth: I have never misled anyone into thinking they were contacting Jeff. In my line of work, people do not steal jobs from other designers. If you were trying to call the Honda dealership to buy a Honda and reached someone at Mercedes, wouldn’t you notice? The people that are attracted to Jeff and his work are different from those that want to work with me.
- 11/20/2009 - 5:37pm
- Vicki Lynn
Ryan, I have watched the show the last two years and have loved the antics of Jeff, but this year I could see the cracks in his facade and I am so sorry that it all came down on you, you are a decent man who has had the misfortune in getting caught up in the train wreck that is Jeff's life. You will go on to have a wonderful life with many friends, I don't see that as a possibility for Jeff. Best wishes to you and yours.
- 11/07/2009 - 6:36am
- Natalie-NY
Ryan,
I love Flipping Out and yes we are all Jeff Lewis' fans. I am saddened by the end of your friendship, but with every closing door another one is opened. I hope you both can get past this in private. Apologize to Jeff about the web links even if you intended no harm. Good luck on all your future endeavors.
- 11/04/2009 - 4:02pm
- Kizzy
I wish both of you would just go back to the beginning, and remember why you were friends in the fist place. I lost a very dear friend over a misunderstanding, and it's an awful feeling. Don't let money come between you, OK. Trust is the key word here. If you can't tell Jeff what is going on, then honestly SHOW HIM!!!!!
- 11/04/2009 - 12:52am
- S.Pee Pee
Ryan, I think you touched subtly on many points of a celebrities power and wrath. I admire your integrity throughout this entire situation. That said, if I could afford it I would hire YOU for design work. I think I will continue to watch the show, I enjoy the cast and tolerate and am sometimes amused by Jeff. Thanks, Ryan and Good luck!
- 11/03/2009 - 11:54pm
- Dennis6
I love your hairstyle on t.v. Where can I get mine done?
- 11/03/2009 - 4:33pm
- becka
I really believe in you Ryan because you could see the pain it was causing you to hear him say all of those ludicris statments! Jeff just lost a great part of his family!
- 11/03/2009 - 4:28pm
- ChuckD
Bravo to Cool&Gang for the post. These are my exact sentiments. Sponsoring links with someone else's name and driving that traffic to your own website is more than deceptive, it's downright slimey. What didn't you address this issue for the world to see? Were you ashamed?
- 11/03/2009 - 12:01pm
- Viewer-West Palm
Ryan,
Best of luck between you and Jeff patching things up, it appears the both of you are hurting about this dispute.
Maybe you need Jenni to mediate the reconciliation between the both of you.
- 11/03/2009 - 11:54am
- GCT in The ATL
Jeff is an idiot. I believe you Ryan. Your grace under fire spoke volumes. You have a life. You have your partner and your child. That is your family. Real Family does not put your business in the street because they got upset. I noticed Jeff did not tell people what his mortgage payment yes. Be strong, stay focused, love your child and it will work out in the end. Jeff used you to get ratings. Real friends don't do that.
- 11/02/2009 - 11:12pm
- Cool&Gang
I think the real point was again skipped over in your explanations Jeff. You never answer the question: Why did you purchase google links with Jeff's name and then direct all those hits to your website? You have not answered this question!!! Why did you do that? Can you see how incredibly horrible that looks, and how misleading it is? Why do you continue to dodge this? It is the main thing that has floored the audience, and apparently Jeff. You used his name in a very specific and proven way. You would obviously have planned this -- that every time someone googled Jeff, they would find links that brought them to your website. And then they would think they had reached the two of you when in fact they had opnly reached you. It seems to me you were purposely directing clients to yourself and using Jeff's name to get them there. This is how jeff kept explaining it on the episodes, and it seems to me that, at least by what the show presented, you never ever admitted it, explained why you did that, or apologized. It's sleezy, to put it mildly. It would be a relationship death for anyone involved. I can see why Jeff's heart is broken. He felt you were his best friend, he says on the show you are his family. It just seems you have a million other topics to set straight, except you are silent on the main point, the main accusation: which are the google links and the web site. You need to respond to this.
- 11/02/2009 - 10:04pm
- Buster1
Ryan,
You insult everyone's intelligence with your games. I can see that Jeff can be difficult (to put it mildly), but I have to say that Jeff is dead on with this website thing. He keeps saying he hasn't any proof but he does. You are in the wrong on this one and I can't believe you can't, or won't, own up to it.
- 11/01/2009 - 2:36pm
- I <3 Ryan
I love you Ryan!! and Cloe is just adorable!! I was in tears when I saw the reunion. The whole situation is too sad, but I hope you guys work things out. Please, don't leave the show <3
hang in there,much love to you and your family.
- 11/01/2009 - 1:56pm
- catward
Ryan,
We just wanted to let you know they you still have a great deal of fans out there. We are Jeff Lewis fans, but we know there is always two sides of the story, and the media typically shows only one of those sides. I hope you and Jeff can work it out some how because "true" friendship only comes once in a life time.
Cat
- 10/31/2009 - 10:00pm
- MARK in TAMPA
Remember to stay the same Ryan you were when you were a young kid
(before we had baggage), and you'll be fine.
- 10/31/2009 - 9:37pm
- kristina09
Ryan stay strong and positive-i went through a situation to wear i lost a best friend and sometimes its for the best. You don't need to be friends with someone that doesnt trust you...once trust is out of the door there is NO friendship...stay blessed.
- 10/31/2009 - 12:50pm
- bcrisfiled
This year I to lost a very close friend over money. I am a realtor and it seems in this down market anything goes and everyone is out for themselves. My friend and I will make amends and I hope you and Jeff will to.
- 10/31/2009 - 1:29am
- kagey
You cannot create a gem like Chloe by being devious or manipulative, your child reflects you and I think the proof is in the little puddin' face; Chloe. I hope that Jeff realizes what is really at stake here, some things are more important than him needing vindication.
- 10/30/2009 - 9:34am
- SPB
Writing again to take it back...
I wrote a post the other day defending Jeff. Then I stopped to think and realized that you (and Jeff) might be getting so many negative comments. The reality is, only you know your intentions with the links and the site. Who am I to judge? So instead, I'm sending you positive energy : ) wishing you and your family and Jeff and his family all the best.
- 10/29/2009 - 11:03pm
- luv you Ryan
Ryan,
Love you, believe you and Jeff needs to let it go! Please, Please don't leave the show by moving away. Your a big part of Flipping Out and It would be so sad to not see you and Jeff reconcile and be in each others lives. You both have alot of healing to do and you just need time to be your healers. All my best for a happy life!
Central Cal Gal :)
- 10/29/2009 - 6:17pm
- Amber Gbay
It does not matter who is right and who is wrong. There are always two sides to every story. That is the simple part. It doesn't matter whose fault it is when the end result is that both people are dead. This is a train wreck and it doesn't need to be. If you can not resolve why there is an issue, step past it, stop focusing on it and work on starting over. Focus on what is important. If your friendship is important to you both then move past this. It is that simple. It is a choice. One person may have to be the bigger person and bend a little. I guess you both will have to decide whether it is more important to be right or to be friends. You both know the heart of the other and you know the truth that lies within. You are both good people and great friends. The only obstacle I see is pride.
- 10/29/2009 - 4:37pm
- Puppy
If there was a "Team Ryan" T-shirt I'd be wearing it!
- 10/29/2009 - 3:46pm
- lorraine.cairns
Ryan,
I watched the show with you and Jeff the other night. I wish you both would make up. I know Jeff wont let it go, I wish he would move on and make piece. You were obviously very emotional and teary. Im hoping you both will remain friends as life is to short. I love watching your daughter's birthday party. Hang in there.
Im hoping there will be a 4th show and we will see you there.
Thinking of you Lorraine
- 10/29/2009 - 1:49pm
- Stillness
Ryan, you are a class act.
- 10/29/2009 - 3:20am
- Tish
Ryan,
My heart broke for both you and Jeff the other evening watching the reunion show, so sad! I do not know if you and Jeff can ever be friends again by the actions of the other evening, but you can forgive, forgivness is such a great healing, one you both can use. I hope that Jeff and you can both move past this hurtfull event in your lives. Good luck and God bless. P.S. your precious little girl is most beautiful!
- 10/28/2009 - 6:23pm
- JD
Ryan,
I just want to share something with you to help you through this. I have sisters that I am very close to, but we don't always agree with each other, nor do we always get along. We are all very independent and have our own ideas and opinions. With that said, we often hear what we want to hear instead of what is really being said. I honestly believe that you and Jeff know in your hearts that your are each right. It is so hard to say I'm sorry when you feel that you are right about whatever the issues are. But in the long run, sometimes we have to say yes this will never be cleared up, and we will never agree on what occurred, but what is more important in my short life that I have on earth to forgive and move on. Carrying grudges accomplish nothing, being stubborn proves nothing. Neither of you will have peace no matter how much you try to pretend until someone gives in. Being the bigger person and making the first move to resolution is always an honorable position. I think that you need to meet privately without the cameras, or any other influences, and sit and talk, yell, argue, then once all the emotions are out there, forgive. Period. Just do it.
- 10/28/2009 - 5:02pm
- Misty
The reunion show was so devastating. It had me in tears. My heart breaks for you, your family and Jeff. It is sad to see a friendship being torn so publicly. Jeff should have confronted you privately and you guys should have come to some sort of an agreement. Life is too short and friends are very few. I ask that you take a deep breath and ask yourself, "without Jeff in my life what impact will it have". As I sat in my living room crying and watching the pain you and Jeff are going through, I pray that you do work things out because you guys are GREAT TOGETHER you are not only partners, you are FAMILY! BLOOD is thicker than WATER, MONEY and FAME! I pray that you guys can work through this because I love you both.
- 10/28/2009 - 4:48pm
- K
I loved the birthday party, The baby guarding the cupcakes.
How cute. I really think Jeff will miss you and the baby
I really think Jeff is still in love with you. Otherwise he would not keep harping about it.
I want you back.
- 10/28/2009 - 4:19pm
- MW in FLA
Hi Ryan,
Hang in there. You are so right! I love Jeff and the show, but come on, he threw you under the bus for ratings. There wasn't much happening this year in terms of flipping houses, which was always so much fun to watch, so Jeff had to come up with some other way to create drama. How sad he chose to try to ruin your reputation. You were right... he was/is trying to hurt your good name. But the intelligent viewers can see rigth through this! But come back next season!!! And show us more of your work... I know, why not have your own design show!!
Best to you and your family.
- 10/28/2009 - 4:12pm
- Courttenay
I saw the reunion last night and felt so bad for you. I believe what you are saying and I think most of America does too. You truly seem hurt and upset by all of this. I wish you and your family the best! Your daughter is beautiful!
- 10/28/2009 - 2:48pm
- Steve Kelly
LIFE IS TOOOO SHORT........MAKE AMMENDS WHILE YOU ARE ABLE!
- 10/28/2009 - 1:43pm
- JacobLashay
I think Jeff got this one wrong. He's hurt about what happened prior to the accusations and he's invented this lying thing to make himself feel better. You're clearly an honest guy. Honest people don't just one day become dishonest.
- 10/28/2009 - 1:37pm
- Ron in Dallas
There is no way it adds up. The reason people know of you is because of the show. Jeff is the reason there is a show. What you should do is man up and admit that you freaked when the market turned and did some things that anyone can tell by looking at how you react knew was wrong. Only time will tell if you are good enough of a friend of Jeffs to do the right thing.
- 10/28/2009 - 1:35pm
- Viewer786085763525
I think your both acting like children, and if you really, really do care for each other as you claim then you both need to man up, work it out, stop accusing each other of crap, and start over with love instead of anger.
- 10/28/2009 - 12:53pm
- Monica
Hi Ryan....
It was so sad for us (my family) to watch the reunion...
I saw tears in your eyes...I am sorry this situation got out of control. As you know, Jeff can be "difficult" at times but he's a good person ( you know that!!) he adores Chloe and you...it's obvious.Please Ryan work it out! come back next season without you the show is not complete! Love from the ATL! Mon
- 10/28/2009 - 12:23pm
- Jana5522
My husband and I have enjoyed the show since the beginning, and especially love watching your daughter, who is the same age as our youngest.
I applaud your grace and attitude. Staying cool in that situation required a lot of patience on your part, especially when Jeff commented on your mortgage. I understand what it is like to have friends with a mental disorder, and as much as you try to stay their friends, sometimes it becomes just too exhausting, and with both of you in the spotlight, that makes it that much harder.
I hope the two of you are able to settle your differences at least to remain on a friendly level. Life is too short to wipe away those who have stood by us.
Good luck in everything you do!
- 10/28/2009 - 12:17pm
- coco
Jeff is still madly in love with you. This has nothing to do with business. I hope you get your own show.
- 10/28/2009 - 11:12am
- Patti, Austin, TX
Sadly your situation was viewed by people who don't know you and also don't know all the details surrounding your situation. You are both being judged. It will work out the way you both want it to. It was clear how much you both mean to each other and it was very clear how sad Jeff was to lose you as a friend and how much you miss him. I wish you both health and happiness for your future and respect both of you and your talents. Good luck to you.
Austin, TX
- 10/28/2009 - 10:49am
- Pistolwhipt
Ryan I LOVE YOU...I want to have your baby!!!! (physically inmpossible, you being a guy, me being a guy.. but you get the idea)
Oh wait...SORRY...that was meant for Robert Pattinson. I got confused!
Ok...composure...focus...breathe...namaste..
Anyhow, I love you on the show!!
You need to have your own spin-off!!!! I personally am more about/interested in the design aspect anyway as opposed to the actual flipping of the house. I love the end/decorated result.
Oh yeah...and you need to put out a book, a design book!!!!!
Go on which yer bad self (translation: keep rockin' it out!)
- 10/28/2009 - 10:07am
- Teri V
Ryan,
I've watched the show from the beginning, and I'm a big fan.
I was wondering if it's possible to dismantle your website, and, collaborating with Jeff, create a new one?
However, if you dismantle the site before talking to Jeff, that might show some willingness on your part to resolve this ugly situation, before your friendship has been completely destroyed.
Just something to think about, and I wish you and Jeff all the best.
- 10/28/2009 - 9:50am
- Teri V
Ryan,
I've watched the show from the beginning, and I've come to be a big fan. I was wondering if there was a way to dismantle your website, and then, collaborating with Jeff, create a new site.
You don't need to apologize for anything except, maybe, that the website upset Jeff, and if you "pull" the site, it may show some good will.
Think about it. I'm going to email Jeff also. I think he should apologize for not coming to you right away with his suspicions.
But, whatever happens, I wish you and everyone on the show the best.
- 10/28/2009 - 8:53am
- bjk
Come on Ryan, When I call or go on line to Honda Dealer A and I get diverted to Honda Dealer B that's deceptive. Especially if A is linked to B in Business and on the TV together as partners. If you weren't trying to get the business for Brown Design why wouldn't you list under your own name and not Jeff's. Just admit it. Even though theres no proof you got business the proof is there that you tried. Friendships are too important. Yours with Jeff should be at least worth the acknowledgement that that's exactly what you did. Time to make up.
- 10/28/2009 - 8:53am
- ECM
I think you did take advantage of your friendship with Jeff. You would not be were you are without him. Perception is reality, reality be damned. Even if you feel you did nothing wrong, Jeff percieves that you did and you have to admit it appears a little shady from his perspective. For that you owe him an apology at least.
- 10/28/2009 - 8:38am
- David W.
I watched the reunion program last night. I believe that there is an adage that is applicable to this situation between Ryan and Jeff: "There are three sides to every story. Your side, the other person's side, and then there is the truth." I don't think that you, Ryan, or Jeff, are being completely forthcoming. Here's what I think summarizes the situation: The real estate downturn has caused persons to stay in their present homes and many elect to upgrade those present homes. That's a perfect opportunity for Ryan as he is probably as good as it gets in handling those opportunities. Jeff, is great, too, but is probably better at running a project from the ground up. Your skills sets are complimentary when real estate sales are booming, but not so complimentary when things turn the other way. Ryan should have just told Jeff, "I'm moving in another direction." I believe that he feared that Jeff would try to follow along with him, and he obviously didn't want that. Jeff knows that and is hurt by it. Jeff Lewis is the kind of person who would rather be hurt with the truth rather than be presented with a smoke screen that he will eventually see through. TV viewers only get a glimpse of the real people, but it seems to me that Jeff Lewis is an extremely talented man with many skills and many options. He won't sink without Ryan. He may actually do better as a challenge only makes him peform at a higher level.
- 10/28/2009 - 8:23am
- nellie113
so sorry this relationship is at a standstill. I see you side completely, and hopefully over TIME(the great healer) Jeff will reexamine his accusations towards you.
Wishing the best for you and your family. Chloe is one lucky little girl.
- 10/28/2009 - 8:06am
- Frank
You both have good points, but you need to stay friends. Work it out soon because life is too short.
- 10/28/2009 - 3:16am
- Jackie1235
I watched the Reunion Season 3 episode and was sad that Jeff and you could not patch things up. The economy has been especially gruelling this past year. Good luck to you both!
- 10/28/2009 - 2:50am
- mi12345
first off. obviously there's something going on btwn the two of you b/c if there wasn't why wouldn't you guys be totally cross promoting/pumping each other up, all the time? Ryan's site should be plastered with Jeff and vice-versa. maybe there's some hostility/jealously/other on both sides?
also Jeff obviously has some psych issues. I don't know how severe but you can't argue with crazy. I haven't talked to my dad in years for similar reasons. he was wrong about me and my intentions and there was never anything I could do to dissuade him.
that said if my pops wasn't so off the deep end. MUCH MUCH worse than Jeff. I would just apologize. clearly there's a therapy worthy problem here. You've been friends for ten years and he doesn't believe you. You're the person he's trusted the most and he can't believe you when you say you never meant him harm. Why is that? and shouldn't you try to be more understanding? not that you're a bad guy or have to it's just that you may be more capable of stepping back and seeing it from his point of view.
Even if you never did anything wrong how messed up is he that he thinks you did? and if you did, even the slightest thing you should man up. Even if you think Maybe you didn't do anything wrong but because of the way he is you could've guessed he'd be flipping out about everything and looking for answers. So maybe you should've been more communicative about every thing you were doing online/co-marketing. No you shouldn't have to and it would've been a pain but you know how he is so why not?
good luck. chloe needs her Jeff and he needs her even more!
- 10/28/2009 - 2:44am
- miabella
Ryan...wow, is all I can say about how you handle Jeff...there's a strength that you possess that I'm not sure many could maintain with all the accusations spewed out at you by Jeff.
I think you know him better than he thinks he knows you...and you're right, he takes a lot of nothing to spin into something.
Something that I couldn't help but think about after the show was that Jeff also singled out Dale and that he doesn't work...to me that was a moment of jealousy rearing it's ugly head and I felt for Dale. He didn't deserve that.
Inspite of Jeff saying he has another love interest...I think there's definitely an underlying residual love for you that he hasn't resolved in his own mind.
It's apparent that you both care for each other...so, it was very disappointing to see the results of tonight's reunion. Someday...I hope Jeff will be able to repair this blunder with the friendship you both had.
All the same, I can't help but adore you both! If someday in the future there happens to pop up a Ryan Brown show...I'll definitely be a viewer...Bravo, are you listening?
Best of everything for you!
- 10/28/2009 - 2:33am
- Local Developer
I was very glad to see you stand your your ground and not apologize to Jeff when you did not do anything wrong. Jeff is entertaining to watch on TV but I would never in a million years hire or work with him for any of my projects. He does fine working for himself but the lack of professionalism towards his contractors, employees and clients is shocking.
I agree that you got business from the show but you got it because people wanted to work with you. Jeff is only concerned about the work you are getting as a designer now that he started in the field b/c the economy is not allowing him to flip houses for a profit.
- 10/28/2009 - 2:10am
- AngelaEPangb
Ryan,
I have watched all of the flipping out episodes and have heard both of your sides of the story and do believe Jeff has logical reasons to be hurt and angry like he is. You need to put yourself in his shoes and try to see his side of things, if you were in his position you would feel as he does about what has happened. Its not just about the website and not sharing recent business you've had with him its other issues that I have also seen previous to him speaking to you about all of this I have noticed how distant you have been towards him in this last season and seem to have just been pulling away and everything that you said to him seemed to be very defensive and rude even when talking about everyday subjects. When this was happening I could see him being the friend trying to get closer to you and make things work and you were the one running and pulling away from him and then the incident with the website happened. I can see that Jeff cares about you alot and your family. You should look inside your heart and realize your wrongs because he is not the one thats wrong this time its you and that might be a blunt statement but its the truth.My best wishes to both of you and I hope you both can put issues aside and reconcile your differences to get your friendship back.
- Angela
- 10/28/2009 - 1:59am
- Terrie
I believe Jeff 100%. I saw with my own eyes what happened when ANYONE Googled Jeff's name. You have become a piece of Crap! You deserve to be upset. I hope Jeff does NOT let you back into his life, he deserves better. If you had any true concern for your daughter, you would have made it perfedrtlyb clear what ever happens between you & Jeff would NOT interfer with Jeff's relationship with Cloe.....That could have smoothed things a bit - but Oh No...........You are what you are....a piece of CRAP!
- 10/28/2009 - 1:28am
- missyu
I am team Jeff Lewis all the way. Ryan- I agree with what Jeff said- it's much easier to defend and runaway. You need to face what you did and just come clean. Not only would Jeff have forgiven you but the rest of the flipping out audience would have too!
- 10/28/2009 - 1:17am
- sadviewer
It was heartbreaking to watch your friendship go down the drain over insignificant allegations! Please put your pride aside and say a heartfelt apology for the sake of your friendship and your little baby girl who would lose out having uncle Jeff in her life. I'm not saying that she won't grow up to be a beautiful lady, but I can see how much love she gets from Jeff and his friends, the love for your child from all these nice folks is worth swallowing your pride and offer the apology that is needed to make amends with your buddy-brother....family is SO WORTH IT!!!
May God bless you with patience and wisdom to wisdom to save your friendship!!with warm regards,
sadviewer :(
- 10/28/2009 - 1:16am
- CHRISTINA720
RYAN UR A SNAKEE.. YOU ARE TRYING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF JEFF BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT HE CARES FOR YOU..GOOD LUCK WITH BEING A MANIPULATIVE PERSON AND WAIT FOR YOUR DAUGHTER TO SEE THESE EPISODES
- 10/28/2009 - 1:16am
- MaryMagdelene
Ryan, it's obvious on the episode this week that you realized that you had done wrong by not being more proactive in keeping Jeff involved with potential clients that could have come to him through your website and any phone calls directed toward him that came through your office. It didn't seem like a malicious move, however, you seem like the type of person who would not admit to your wrong-doing on national television. And why would you? You'd lose clients. So, in private, please stop with the Bambi eyes and the 'What did I do?' act, because although Jeff has a black belt in crazy he definitely needs you to own up. Apologize and move on. BTW, your daughter is the spitting image of you -- very cute.
- 10/28/2009 - 1:16am
- Rich in Laguna Niguel
It's extremely clear that Ryan has tried his best to steal Jeff's customers by having their websearches for Jeff diverted to Ryan's site. That point has never been disputed by Ryan. Ryan simply cannot defend his actions. Ryan is now using the tried and true tactic of trying to confuse the issue by throwing unrelated darts at Jeff at every instance. Jeff has been wronged by Ryan---clear and simple. I think that Jeff was too nice to Ryan during that last painful interview. I hope that Jeff doesn't cave in and ever accept a slimeball such as Ryan back as a friend. Unfortunately part of growing up in a healthy manner is developing the ability to drop untrustworthy slimeballs and write them off in order to improve our lives.
- 10/28/2009 - 1:15am
- David K
Ryan,
It's obvious to me that you're telling the truth and that nothing you did was from a malicious place. If you can work things out with Jeff GREAT, and if not so be it. I think you are absolutely right to demand an apology as in the business world having ones integrity challenged...WITH NO PROOF is still extremely damaging. Hopefully he gets himself together, realizes he's being paranoid and apologizes.
- 10/28/2009 - 12:53am
- Mdubs64
Just wanted to write something because the reunion show made me tear up. I do understand why you are hurt and though I have no real idea what is truly, totally going on, I see your point of view clearly. I hope that you and Jeff will find some peace in time, and will not take what any of the hurtful things viewers say to heart...they have no real idea. It is always to put one's two cents in when one is the fly on the wall.
- 10/28/2009 - 12:22am
- Curtie
I just watched the reunion and I'm truly saddened by the loss of such a great friendship. 10 years of building memories with someone to be destroyed over, lets be honest, money is so crushing. I see two people who are both brilliant and both hurting. I understand that in hindsight some things could have been different but thats hindsight its 20/20. Seriously Ryan and Jeff take time think, really sit and think about all the times you have been there for each other, all the great memories you have made together. In the middle of the night if you really needed someone even now arguing who do you know would be there for you? Im hoping you know that you are best friends through thick and thin, good times and bad. Let this whole situation go. Remove working together from your relationship and keep money maters private and i think you two can get back to being the great friends you always have been.
- 10/28/2009 - 12:17am
- B
Ryan,
Just saw the reunion show, and all I can say is that you are better off without someone like that in your life. You presented yourself well by confronting Jeff publicly and it should go a long way in maintaing your company's reputation.
I am glad to hear that you are looking for a new home in Santa Barbara and making a lifestyle change for you and your entire family (especially your daughter), because I don't think L.A is psychologically the healthiest place to live.
I say this, because after spending 8 years in L.A, I have come to realize that there are many Jeff Lewis' in that town.
Say hi to your bro , whom I got to know when we were very brief office neighbors at the Robertson space.
- 10/28/2009 - 12:09am
- Richard
Ryan,
I truly hope that you can work this situation out to your satisfaction. Wether it be reconciliation or just moving on. It would be unfortunate if you were no longer on the show because you and your family are a GREAT break from the chaos that is Jeff. You are the reason my partner and I watch the show. I don't know if Jeff is how he is portrayed on the show at all times but if he is you are a saint for being able to retain your composure during this mess. I once dated someone with a personality similar to Jeff's and I would compare it to playing Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun. No way to win except not to play.Best of luck,
Richard and John
- 10/28/2009 - 12:08am
- J In Maryland
Ryan,
Finding a true friend is hard. Being a true friend is harder. Search your heart and find a way to understand that what you did whether it was intentional or not has caused pain in those around you, Your parents your grandma and your lovely daughter Khloe (I luv her she is so sweet, when she said, "thank you for the jump house" and "I don't want him to go" just melted my heart she loves Jeff) will always miss Jeff because you and including your new partner were "family". Don't let that go, it is too hard to replace. Life is too short.
- 10/28/2009 - 12:08am
- Sandi D.
Ryan,I totally believe you.In watching this show,I have found Jeff to be the type that can dish out hurtful comments to his staff and you .I also find him to be very judgemental and paranoid.Whether he has someone or not,he seems to resent your relationship with your mate and daughter.I also find him to be very childish to take a perfect friendship and ruin it over assumption.He has a lot of growing up to do. I wish you the best.Friendship is a beautiful thing,but when it becomes toxic,you need to walk away even though it may hurt.
- 10/28/2009 - 12:08am
- Ben'h
I watched the Reunion Show tonight and it was as I expected.
Jeff's Ego demanding an apology regardless of saving the friendship. That was the important thing. Just satisfy his self absorbed ego at all cost with an apology. He backed himself in a corner during the last shows by accusing you of trust and betrayal issues on camera.Ryan, you have a daughter, a partner and a successful business. You don't need this kind of insanity in your life. Wish him well, move on and don't look back.
- 10/28/2009 - 12:07am
- hmmmm
Hey Ryan,
Looked a little peaked on the Reunion show, not at all healthy there.
Guilt eating at you?
I googled Jeff early last year and was taken to your site. I thought it strange then, now things have come to light. Hope that even thru all that you two somehow some way work things out, its not fun losing your best friend.
Wishing you well. And I do mean that.
Give Chloe a hug, she is totally adorable, makes me think of my grand-daughter when she was that age.
- 10/28/2009 - 12:03am
- Experienced partner
Ryan,
The scene tonight was difficult to watch, but your body language said plenty. Little eye contact, fidgety feet...it was painfully obvious that there is some level of truth to what Jeff has said. It may not be the full truth, but if you haven't discussed the full truth yet with him, then I have to wonder if Jeff is more right than wrong. It sounded like you both have had legal advice about the situation and are far more concerned about law suits than your relationship. That is a very sad situation for all of you, but especially for Chloe. my heart goes out to her and I pray that she grows up knowing that she was loved by Jeff and she did nothing wrong if he is no longer in her life. good luck.
- 10/28/2009 - 12:02am
- Laurel B
After watching the show tonight I was very grieved by the turnout of affairs. I can see both sides and can understand both sets of feelings. Nothing good comes out of bitter feelings, I remember having a simular experience, I was not the one in the wrong but because of others I loved were being hurt I apologized. The healing then started. That was 25 years ago. Hopefully, when the show airs again you will all be one big happy family again. Love you all and I never miss a show.
- 10/27/2009 - 11:55pm
- gabbie
I just want to say business is business and friendship is friendship. Things got rough for everybody this last year with the economy going to crap. I don't know if the stress of it all got to you relationship. I hope you can mend fences. you are both very talented people. Good luck to you and your family.
- 10/27/2009 - 11:54pm
- ViewerRob
I watch this show infrequently these days but just caught the reunion. Gee that really is a lot of drama. When I watched the show in the past, I found it annoying to see how poorly Jeff treated other people. Then he would act hurt when his put downs were met with distane. The guy has an ego like a black hole feeding on the universe. While I'm not suprised that your breakup occurred, I am sad for both of you.
- 10/27/2009 - 11:51pm
- Viewer22
Ryan, I support you on this one. I am surprised you have been able to remain associated with Jeff for this long. He is consistently rude, self-centered, paranoid and disrespectful to those who have been beyond loyal to him. He obviously does not know how to show appreciation and gratitude. It is far past due for Jeff to be called out on his actions to those around him. Why is everyone so accepting/forgiving of his behavior?
Is it sad that a long friendship has come an end? Yes! However, you shouldn't have to constantly bite your tongue and accept his mistreatment. Friendship is a two-way street and Jeff doesn't seem to get that. He should be apologizing to you!
- 10/27/2009 - 11:50pm
- Nixon
Why did you allow Dale to talk you out of calling Jeff months ago? If Dale truly cared for you and Chloe, he'd want to see this issue be resolved and not want to continue or add to the drama.
You've known Jeff for how long? Obviously he doesn't want to lose you as a friend and you should know that since you claim to know him like you do.
It didn't even have to come to this in the season finale if you would've just made that call to Jeff months ago and tried to smooth things over. Instead you allowed Dale fuel a fire that could've been put out.
- 10/27/2009 - 11:47pm
- G in Boston
Keep your healthy home life, I really feel this is the capstone to Jeff's paranoia and narcissism (sp?). God forbid someone appear to become sucessful w/o acknowledging that even that is all about him. He didn't "lose" his best friend, he threw him away. The man is on his way to being old, spiteful and alone....and now he want's to buy a baby to hedge his bets???!!! This stuff is insane. He may not now take medication, but perhaps he should consider it.
- 10/27/2009 - 11:46pm
- Jenn Gillespie
Dear Ryan,
I just watched the reunion and I am so very sad for you and for Jeff. I certainly understand that there are two sides to every story, but I have to side with Jeff on this one. Not becuase I believe you have done all of these dishonest things, but because I too can tell that you are holding something back when you speak of the "questionable" behavior. There is a reason you shouldn't mix business with friendship. When you mix your profession and money in to a stressful situation sometimes (morality) lines get blurred. It's o.k. that's just the way it is.I think you should tell Jeff that your sorry for making "suspect" business decisions and that you are sorry that they seemed like you were being dishonest. You were just thinking that they were good business decisions and maybe you two don't share the same business ethics and that is o.k. and if you could do it over, you would do it differently because you would never do anything that would make him question your honesty, friendship, or loyalty. You should agree to keep business separate from now on and to move forward.
C'mon you two aren't just friends. You're family and you don't just walk away. You do what you have to do to make it work. I hope you two can make it through this!
- 10/27/2009 - 11:45pm
- AP
You are a class act, Ryan. It was right for you to apologize for him hurting....but if you did not do anything wrong, don't get involved with all his OCD drama - Grow up Jeff!
- 10/27/2009 - 11:45pm
- Nadine
RYAN'S EYES...
I can't believe I have stomach pains from this drama!
The reunion show speaks volumes about your "relationship" with Jeff. Why are some posters advising RYAN to apologize to Jeff, and "be the bigger person", when it's clear that you are the more mature, grounded, and logical person of the two?!The whole situation was mishandled and Ryan should have been approached in a different manner (i.e. minus the cameras). THIS IS BORDERLINE DEFAMATION, and just as Jeff said he can "tell in [Ryan's] eyes that [he's] lying", viewers can also tell that has compassion and sadness in his eyes... He has the right to defend himself!
Ryan, I wish you both the best in your personal and business life. Hopefully, the accusations and cattiness will soon stop OR you get your own reality show ... where you won't be silenced!
p.s. Although I live in Chicago, I looked at your site and spreads and I love your design work! :)
-Nadine
- 10/27/2009 - 11:42pm
- Arlina Bambina
Shame ON U Ryan,
I have met people just like you in my life. You really saddened me when you did that with the web sites and hurt Jeff the way U did.
Opportunist is what you have become. Something in the back of your head like an unresolved issue caused you to do this.
Like Jeff said tonight on the reunion show, maybe he cannot prove you stole clients, but for sure you are guilty of directing traffic to your business using him and his name.
It is do obvious since I know how sites like your work.
You are a story teller and doubt that many of the viewers believed a word you said.
Arlina Bambina
- 10/27/2009 - 11:37pm
- KenChicago
Ryan,
First, I love the show. Secondly, I hope that you are back next year. Here's my one observation, though, regarding you and Jeff. While I do not know you personally, I am guessing that the emotions and feelings in tonight's episode have less to do with stealing business and more to do with unresolved issues, either past or present. It is clear that you both care for one another deeply. When the camera is turned off, I hope that you can both sit down again and work through the real demons that haunt your relationship...
- 10/27/2009 - 11:36pm
- Viewer1530
I like Jeff but I believe you. When you are already a suspicious person you can turn the smallest of things into Watergate. I truly hope the two of you can work it out but I would not include business dealings in the equation.
- 10/27/2009 - 11:34pm
- Doo Dah
Ryan, darlin'. I feel for both you and Jeff. This is very tough on both of you that is very clear. However, I believe both of you are speaking the truth. Listening to each of your perspectives of the events leading up to this clash my first thought was that neither of you were communicating enough with the other early on as the 'evil' website was created. Having been best friends and partners for so long gave you both a false confidence that you instinctively knew what the other needed without taking time out of your busy schedules to sit down and give it the time and focus that was needed at the time. Each of you should apologize and each of you should find a way to move forward together as friends and family. I miss seeing you on screen!!
- 10/27/2009 - 11:32pm
- dIianne
Ryan i believe you.. wish you were more in the show.
i think Jeff and his suspicions are running amok.. he did not have proof then, he did not have proof now.. why would he sacrifice friendship over unfounded suspicions and then aired it on tv..if i was you i would be hurt to be accused for something you did not do.
friend should give each other the benefit of the doubt..
Jeff and his ocd behavor will cost him friends and loyal employees at the end if he is not careful.
i do hope you guys can patched it out for Chloe sake.
- 10/27/2009 - 11:22pm
- Viewer from day one
If you had not been so smarmy about the "Big Star" that called Jeff, then later booked an appointment with you, I might be more inclined to believe that you are innocent. That entire exschange with you gloating was just in very poor taste. Obviously, I'm not in the relationship, and don't know if you had received the same treatment from Jeff in the past -- the show doesn't let us see that -- but I still don't get how you can claim total innocence when, if what Jeff said is true, a site with both of your names on it steered all contacts to Brown Design. Take yourself to your family and the beach and where ever else you want to go. I, for one, won't miss you in the least. Ciao.
- 10/27/2009 - 11:14pm
- SN2BPHD
Ryan,
Friends sometimes bite the bullet for what is more important. The friendship. Years from now the why won't be so important. If you really value your friendship, there is nothing wrong within giving a friend what he needs to deal with what happen. If something happen to your friend, and you left it like this, would you be content? It sounds like through his anger, Jeff is hurt. It sounds like he wants to be valued in his experience.
Best wishes.
- 10/27/2009 - 11:11pm
- tere514
I am sorry Ryan based on your comments and demeanor your are guilty for being sketchy -Jeff did not want to be right in any way on any of these issues. That is why he waited he was hoping that there would be a different outcome. You did not mean for it to go this way but man up -do the right thing -do it for Chloe!
- 10/27/2009 - 11:08pm
- JimMS
What everyone is failing to realize is that Ryan has so much less to lose than Jeff. Ryan, you have Dale and your beautiful daughter, Jeff has only business associates and employees in his life and you were one of his few friends. You don't care because you don't need him, you have your family but who does Jeff have? He doesn't have a partner to come home to at night and a child to love, Ryan you are a selfish man!
- 10/27/2009 - 11:07pm
- mlp
I thought you have remained as classy and upfront as possible through all of this. It's a shame that the reunion did not go better. It's never easy losing a life-time friend. The best of luck to you especially now, during this hard time.
- 10/27/2009 - 11:07pm
- Baby Cakes
Ryan,
I don't believe you because if you and your staff was able to create the web site than you understand how it works. When using the internet as a marketing tool the best business practice would be to get a much knowledge as possible to have the best outcome. Ryan the true is the light and we all make bad choices sometimes
- 10/27/2009 - 10:49pm
- SD design wannabe
Hey Ryan,
Much respect coming up from your SoCal neighbor to you, to Dale, and what you are accomplishing in your lives. I admire you. In my own life and career I have learned an important lesson; It is okay for two adults to agree to disagree. Instead our emotions and egos take over and we put it all out on the line....it's all or nothing. You apologize or Jeff apologizes or the relationship is over. Poppycock! There is plenty of middle ground in relationships and adults can disagree in a healthy way. No one has to sacrifice their principles or beliefs - just disagree about the facts, acknowledge each other's pain and hurt, hug, and start again. I know this sounds simplistic and way too easy when emotions are high. Just practice it - again and again until it becomes comfortable. You have much to gain and very little to lose by making this type of agreement with Jeff. (Jeff - I'm talking to you too!)Standing on principles and facts in dispute can be cold and lonely and you both deserve better...Hugs to you both!!
- 10/27/2009 - 10:38pm
- LarryNMO
Ryan,
I have your back. Whether you did it or not, intentional or not, is it really worth losing your friendship over? You appear sincere to me on the show, but Jeff in his controlling manner has to always cut you off and not accept anything you say. I think you two should apologize and move past this- for yours, his, Chloe's, and everyone's sake.
Hope it all works out! Sorry to see the reunion go the way it did- but this viewer has your back!
- 10/27/2009 - 10:35pm
- Lalet
You know what a stickler for accuracy jeff is....I think the two of you could patch things up if you just went down his list and proved to him how each acusation he made was false.
make him show you these links and just explain yourself.
It all just sounds like a huge misunderstanding that could be worked out if you guys would take the time to talk it through.
I wish the best for you two.
- 10/27/2009 - 10:35pm
- gypsy5135
Ryan, you are amazing!!! Chloe is adorable!! Loved the write up on you in Chicago Tribune!! You're living the life and you are happy--keep doing what you do!!! You are a big person!!! Cream always rises to the top!!!
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