Just to be clear there is a lack of understanding, knowledge and common sense with this current generation of people just graduating college. Most of them feel they are above doing certain jobs and that they don't need to pay their dues -- some lack attention to detail and others just plainly don't care.
What happened on this episode was a testament to what not to do in the work place. People need to take responsibility for their own actions and not do things to jeopardize their jobs, if they actually really want one. It seems people have this heir of being over-privileged, yet fully under-qualified to perform the necessary tasks. First, who goes away on a company trip as an assistant and doesn't just "assist?"
When I started I was basically what all of the staff are calling slaves in this episode as well, but that's what you have to do to begin. It's all about paying your dues and you do that with lots of humility, charm, sophistication and diligence and if not, you will never survive. And then on top of not serving you stay out until 7am and drink alcohol and get involved with people who steal from the hotel we are staying at? I mean, doesn't this seem a bit outlandish and ridiculous? Was there really that much lack of common sense? What kind of company would ever condone this behavior? So my message is to be smart, take your job seriously and take control of all actions and decisions as they are responsible for the growth and demise or lack of your career. Just a few kind words that may be useful for all of you people looking to break into the fashion PR business.
Great advice! I think many young people fresh in the working world don't understand that you do have to pay your dues. It's very common for folks to walk in with no experience and wonder why they haven't gotten a promotion in 6 months... on top of that, seeing an entitled attitude run rampant is enough to make you disgusted. I once experienced someone wondering why they had no received a raise when they had held their job only 3 months... it was a joke. Hopefully Kelly can throw your advice into her book!!
Absolutely agree with you regarding today's new workforce. I'm in my mid-thirties and worked day/night...paid my dues to make executive management in my company. We've hired new college students a few months ago and fired them all due their poor work ethics. They're NOT hungry enough to well. They want a "facebook" version of the workforce without giving up any sweat.
Girl you did the right thing those kids should have been fired two weeks ago...I love the show and wish I could work there, and I have a degree in PR.
Best of Lucks, Duchess
Thank you, Robyn! As a young woman in the PR Distribution world, I cannot tell you how embarrassed I am for my generation. Perhaps last night's episode will help show that there is no room in the workplace for entitlement, sloppiness, and lack of responsibility. Now if only I can figure out how to earn what V was...
I believe in paying one's dues, but this blog, and its comments, are starting to sound like generational warfare. If these "young whipper-snappers" are so out of touch with the workplace, then part of your job as a manager is to provide guidance and mentoring. I'm not suggesting any hand-holding, but clear instructions and rolemodeling is the key to a successful workplace. Most of the older people here who brag about paying their dues most likely had that much.
There's also a difference between providing leadership in the workplace vs. complaining about something after the fact. Stephanie V was an ongoing problem. No one was surprised that she was fired. However, Elide? Was she fired simply because she had fun? I don't buy it that she was terminated due to a very loose affiliation with some unexpected thief that she had just met in a large group. Did Page Six mention People's Revolution by name? If not, then no damage was done. If she was fired for being drunk, then that is worth a sit-down. But termination? Not so much. Really, it's the fashion industry. I work in the legal field and even we are encouraged to mingle and socialize with clients.
Immediately firing that new hire girl with all the good experience, was completely unnecessary. Was she told beforehand that she was not permitted to discuss her new job? To whom? Friends? Coworkers? Did she sign an NDA?Don't many of the staffers have Twitter accounts? Clearly, it was not a good idea for her to Twitter, but that could have been rectified by simply TELLING her before firing her. A vague discussion of discretion does not create clear boundaries-- especially when someone is excited to get their dream job. Oh, and laughing at her while firing her is simply petty.
Methinks these "older folks" in the workplace are more concerned with their perceived authority over younger employees rather than the quality of their management. Take this from one of those young professionals in their 20s: paying your dues is not the same as passively accepting someone else's bad management. Don't belittle my generation simply due to our age. After 3 years of law school and resulting practice at a firm, I can tell you all about hell on earth, and it has nothing to do with age.
By and large, everything you say is true. However, as far as the firing went; well, Stephanie handled herself really well, while you handled yourself really badly. She had admitted defeat, she was ready to pack up and go, but you and your collegue went out of your way to pull her aside and insult her before she left. What was the purpose of this? You offered almost no constructive critisism, and after she apologized and thanked you (for firing her) you said nothing except you had to go; you said this as if she were wasting your time when you are the one who took her aside! I hope now that you have actually seen this episode you will see who appeared to be the grown up, and if you think its you, you should rewatch it until you understand.
I agree with the comments about the lack of work ethic in younger workers. However, I found the atmosphere in that office to be toxic... I couldn't watch the entire show. The people are so into themselves and their "aren't we cool and eurohip" vibe that it just got tired... for me anyways.
I completely agree with what you've said but the first line of your blog is very insulting. Not ALL recent graduates are the way you've described and I would be careful because that's the majority of this show's audience.
dude - i am so very tired of hearing my friends whine that their bosses owe them training. my boss doesn't owe me anything. my college owed me training - because i paid them. my boss pays me. i figure that means that *I* owe *Her* a cracker jack job.
If i gotta spend overtime to read up and train myself or work extra hard to learn things - i'm all over it. i wanna get promoted and get a raise next year, so i gotta build more knowledge and expertise to offer up than i had this yr. if my boss spends a pile of effort to give me training, isn't that a benefit she is giving me? why would she pay me more with a raise on top of training me? she'd pay me twice for the same expertise. doesn't make economic sense, man. she could just hire someone else above me that already has the expertise at that salary and save herself the effort of training me.
*Totally* disagree that it's my manager's job to give me mentoring and guidance. i work for her -- she doesn't work for me. if she gives me some training, she is doing me a favor.
before you call me a sucker, you should know i've already been promoted and my manager gives me all the "good" projects. my co-worker who also graduated two years ago is always talking about how he likes to keep his work and personal life separate. he complains about working overtime and never takes home reading or projects over the weekend. guess what? in ten years, he'll still be a junior manager and i'll be running the division! 9-5 is the mantra of losers. i rock my job!
hey y'all other m-folk - stop giving us a bad name. Some of us actually *want* to work.
I can empathize with the managers and currently employed workers at People's Revolution. I'm in my mid-20s and I guess would technically be categorized as part of the new generation of workers, but I myself have noticed a huge lack of initiative and responsibility from the majority of my work class. I worked for a firm that had distinct periods in the year with 10+ hr work days, and although it was made very clear to people before they were hired what the expectations were, you still had 90% of the new hires randomly leaving at 7 or 8 pm, when the rest of the team (yes including sr. management) are there until midnight or later. There's definitely a lack of one for all and all for one with most new graduate employees....I don't think it needs to be taught that you shouldn't leave before your work is done, and even if you're done, you should have the courtesy to ask your teammates if they need help before heading out. Like the mantra of the show seems to be, it's common sense people!
Watch some of the bonus clips-- they show a LOT more of what happens than the show sometimes.. For example, Robyn and Emily don't just attack Vorhees after she fires herself. They explain very nicely what has gone wrong and how she can improve her performance in future situations. I really think the partners are getting negative light for no reason!
I started watching the show because I just graduated with a BA in fashion Design & Marketing and thought that it would be interesting to watch how the "real" fashion industry works. I am very disappointed with this show. I feel as if the senior team belittles interns and assistants. I feel that an intern is there to learn and be mentored in a way by those who are more experienced. As for the twitter incident with Virginia the new hire, I thought it was such a waste to hire/fire her. I think that if it would have been brought to her attention and explained that she is not allowed to do this, she would have not done it again. You probably lost someone with a lot of experience who could have been a good asset to your firm considering you guys REALLY need the help. Plus you have a camera crew there 24-7. What kind of privacy can you have? NONE!
enjoy the show but for real you all need an office atmosphere. Like with cubicles,rules,organization and less chaos. Everyone sitting at a messy table doing a hundred tasks is not efficient. I'll be glad to pop in and set up your office the correct way.
Robyn, I have to agree with your opinion on the 20-something generation. Not saying ALL 20-somethings are like this but frighteningly, many are. As a 30-something woman with my own business I see this all too much. We have become a "gimme gimme" society that wants everything right now instead of putting in the hard work and effort it takes to achieve our goals.
With the Stephanie V situation - sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do!
I love Kell on Earth. As for the interns or some of the people that have worked there in the past, yes they should be fired, but that is only what the viewers see. I feel that some of these interns they show on this show are not doing their best and they are not using their heads. For example, when the interns put other the gift bags for the editors and they were bad. If the bags would have been sent out that way it would have made People's Revolution look bad. Since I know a little about PR and planning events, they take months and months. Each person working at this firm will be stressed out. So attutides flair and its stressful. Truth is employeers should know what they are getting into when they apply for this job. It is fashion PR with the best of the best, YES it will be stressful and no sleep for months. You have to love what you do to be willing to go through hell each day. The drive and the stress comes with the job and if you lose the drive or hate stress you will never be bale to work in PR of any type. Love the show!! Thanks!
1. I would have fired those 2 interns at the event. They were drinking and not doing their jobs. Complete slackers. 2. Stephanie announcing that she knows she is about to be fired in front of the entire staff was extremely unprofessional and quite tacky. She should had scheduled a time to meet with you in private to discuss her situation. 3. People, NEVER tweet about work. Ever. If you're gonna do it, at least make your profile private. Duh. 4. You people only have one printer? Might want to invest in a new laser printer. The one you have looks a bit outdated. 5. Interns, gotta love them. Kidding. I work in network news, so I understand high pressure. These kids just out of school are brats and don't understand "paying your dues". Especially in this economy. They should be grateful they have a job and not complain so much.
Just started watching this show today, and it made me so glad for the summer jobs I had back in high school and college! I got to make most of my immature mistakes while working in low-paying, low-profile jobs for my neighbors' businesses, before I graduated from college and was expected to be more professional and responsible.
I know it seems stressful, but I'd love to work in an office like PR. Kell & the senior staff really seem to care about doing a bang-up job for each client, and take pride not in their positions or prestige, but in what a good job they've done.
I love this show like I have nothing to do with fashion but it's fun to see how chaotc it actually is. I think Elide shouldn't have been fired it wasn't her fault. Both Andrews are my favorites!
I had to laugh at your blog because, if I'm guessing your age correctly, you would be the same age of the interns I used to manage, and, to quote you, "Just to be clear there is a lack of understanding, knowledge and common sense with this current generation of people just graduating college. Most of them feel they are above doing certain jobs and that they don't need to pay their dues-some lack attention to detail and others just plainly don't care." That's exactly how I felt about my interns when I managed them. They drove me nuts. They came to work with this attitude that they earned their crisp new diplomas so stuffing envelopes was beneath them. They hadn’t learned that there are dues to pay. Some people learned this lesson sooner than others and some people never learned it at all. The danger is that we forget how stupid we were. Emily and you (and me) have both said that there wasn’t anyone around to help you learn your job so you had to learn what to do yourself. That’s just not true. There were people around that helped. Maybe they weren’t your supervisors but there were people who helped you find your way. You were just as annoying to your supervisor as your interns in your company are to you now. Don't try to deny it, because it's true for everyone. Their attitude is not a sign of the times; it's a sign of the stage in life. Think back to those days and remember to provide some leadership to the new kids, because we were all there once.