Again, I am a doctor who works a LOT. I love what I do, and as it's been stated it doesn't allow me a lot of a social life. Tonight's episode again was hard for me to watch. I think I've been hoping for a sign of healing but tonight, I didn't see any.
In a place where there is no unity, there are going to be FIGHTS and differences will be amplified by even the smallest things. Things are getting a little petty. I am not saying we don't have differences of opinions, but we must agree to disagree. I sound like a broken record. These wounds are still open and no one appears to care for a remedy of healing. Constructive debates and resolve are nowhere in sight. There is constant "salt throwing" (shade). Salt in an open wound burns! We are wired to respond to burns. This is a prescription for another "slap-slap"!!! Though I sure hope this never happens again.
Many things, including sharing a SECRETS or a slip of the tongue (whichever it was), can cause us to disagree in our lives. If only we had a rewind or delete button in life. Assaults have been made -- but can be repaired if we can acknowledge our part. Imbalance brings pain, confusion, and chaos in our lives. I can replay the details of the fight and ask who was right or wrong, but there will never be an agreement on how and why it started. But does it really matter at this point?
Dr. Jackie, I am not a fan of the behavior of a lot of the black women on some of these reality shows, however I am of you. You are the only one on this show that represent black women in Atlanta in a positive light. I agree with your response on Watch What Happens regarding the next day pill (I belive). I do not think teenage girls should be making decisions like that without parental and doctor consultation. Dr. Simone, I would be concern with sending my daughter to her, because I feel she would probably encourage that pill. I applaud your attempt at trying to get these women together to heal wounds, but you should not feel bad because your attempt failed.
Toya caused that fight, because she approached Marriah about her mother and also the revealing of a personal family issue. Marriah did repeat it, but she did not think the people she was spoke to would repeat it to others who are not part of her world. How is Marriah supposed to check her mother? Both of these women and grown, and could handle it themselves. Was Marriah supposed to give her mother a time out?
We women gossip and repeat things we should not, especially about our friends. But children should be off limits. Toya revealed something on national television that she should not have. Marriah and her husband did not have a chance to be there when their daughter found out about it. Toya took their parental filter away from them, and she is luckly that Marriah was in an evening gown. Dr.Jackie, Toya is sneaky and a phony. Her agenda is to turn the rest of the ladies agaist Marriah. (Marriah is something else in her own mind, but that is who she is, and I could deal with someone like her. She is just in love with herself.) But Toya is sneaky and cannot be trusted. Neither one of these ladies considered their husbands, they just went at it like junk yard dogs.
Glad you are the voice of reason. Maybe you can stop Dr. Simone from drinking or talking about Vodka all the time.
I absolutely ADORE you. You are incredibly wise, intelligent and yet still very humble and very human. Your above blog has to be the most sensible and contemplative blog ever written in the history of this website. I consider these shows a guilty pleasure and watch them b/c I'm drawn to the drama (not very healthy). However, watching you is inspiring--you embody so many positive attributes we need to see in professional, successful black women. Both you and Dr. Simone (though in her own way) provide the much needed voice of reason and serve as wonderful role models. Please keep fighting the good fight, Dr. Jackie--you are making a difference!
Dr. Jackie I appreciate what you bring to the Show! I don't know how long you will last with the drama the other ladies tend to bring, but I do hope you last long enough to change some of the stereotypes of the "reality shows" . You are the epitome of a true Southern Belle.
You seem like the only person on this stupid show that is together. Run as fast as you can away from these nut bags. Even that dr Simone is a strange one!
Only one word comes to mind when I think of you-BORING! Stop trying to get everyone to hold hands and talk about their feelings it's lame and BORING!
Sadly, they all were quite wrong in their approach and opinions of one another. Toya could have stayed away from Mariah (even though she would have found another reason to have an issue with her). Mariah could have walked away from Toya. Simone could have shut her mouth and minded her business. Jackie could stay neutral and tried to sit with everyone or each person individually (but Jackie's comments about Mariah are also quite telling, especially when you blame a person for someone else's betrayal...interesting). Kari, well, please....Kari made the scene more dramatic than it needed to be especially with the police on hand and dismissing Mariah/Ayden from her (their) party and spending little to no money on the event. AND no matter the evidence, she is hell bent on have a grudge against Mariah.
Funny enough...Quad was the only one that had no participation in this mess, other than trying to break it up.
Please remember, their education, money, status, occupations have nothing to do with emotionally charged human reactions. These shows remind the rest of us that indeed, we're all subject to falling short. Be careful not to judge too harshly.
It really bothers me that you take up for Toya running her mouth and use the excuse that Mariah shouldn't have told her secret to Toya. Mariah was confiding in a friend. She was trusting a friend. That is how people get closer and build trust. It's a totally human and natural concept. So the fact that you think this is all Mariah's fault for trusting and confiding in her friend is pathetic to me. When someone speaks ill of your child, claws come out. That, again, is a natural response. Mariah has every right to feel hurt, betrayed, and all of the above.
It appears to the public that your choice to work a LOT is because you are lonely.
You're wealthy so I'm going to assume there should be no need for more money. You have a caring family who are extremely supportive, but you don't seem to be present when they are in same room.
Ms Mariah's pain was valid. Defining Ms Toya's gossip as "sharing secrets", "slip of the tongue" is wrong. Both handled the situation poorly, but as a mother of four I understand why Ms Mariah felt betrayed. There is substance to Ms Mariah's emotions ... especially when your child's private matters are intentionally exposed.
I live in Atlanta. North of the Perimeter. My daughter is 16 weeks pregnant and we haven't found an OB yet. I want her to have the best and caring doctor while carrying her first child. Think we will look you up tomorrow. Not sure what part of Atlanta your office is located so I will try to find out in the morning
Thanks! I am so excited. Jackie has several offices in Atlanta. So my daughter has an appt. with her in about a 3 more weeks.. I guess her business is booming right now with the show. My daughter is seeing another doctor next week, but hopefully we can ransfer to Dr. Jackie when she is scheduled to see her. The office I chose is only about 20-30 minutes from here. The only thing is the receptionist said they don't take anyone past 12 weeks (because of liability) and my daughter is farther along. But hopefully they will allows her to transfer. In my experience having babies I had a male doctor both times and they are just not in tune with what you are going through. I love Dr. Jackies temperment and the fact you can tell she cares about her patients. I REALLY hope this workds out!!!!! After what I saw on the "lemon squeeze" meeting I see her as having class and dignity that most othe others don't. Mariah just makes me sick - the way she argued about having wine when Jackie was wise enough not to include alcohol. Half the problem on the show, is because there is always alcohol included with the drama.
Dr Jackie, I like you. You have good common sense. With that said, you probably don't belong on the show. To be frank, I wouldn't want to be known that I associate with these women. Other than, Simone. The two of you just don't belong in this circle. I love all the drama. God knows, we as viewers have become used to it. As you have probably seen, these panels boards are full of heated opinions. I can appreciate that but again, I wouldn't become apart of it. Good luck to you, God bless
Jackie, I have to agree with some of the other comments. You took sides (Toya's) before getting Mariah's side. Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure that was based on what Dr. Simone told you (in private), that's why you took Toya's side. Also, how can you be a friend if you don't show yourself friendly. When Mariah shared that information with Toya, do you really believe that your response, "a slip of the tongue" was on point. Of course not, I read your comments about unity but I'm confused. When someone trusts you with their most personal information, you do not run your mouth. And, if that's "okay" with you, I'm glad you're not my "friend." That's never okay to speak of things told in private. C'mon Doc. You can't actually be okay with that.
Katie1958 loejj77no because toya got invited to the dinner party and mariah didn't. as a matter of fact mariah did walk with toya to a more private location before the fight erupted.i never had a fight in my life except once with my 10year old best friend, but i doubt if someone threw a glass towards my face after talking about both my mom and daughter, i wouldn't reach out. toya should have apologized she started the fiasco.mariah already paid for the party where she was asked to be removed from, how about an apology from kari??
So far you are the only one that has common sense. Thank you for portraying black women in a positive light. smh at the other ladies. The other ladies are catty and have way to much time on their hands.
bravasuzy They're all catty. Jackie is always saying something sly out her mouth to Simone. Jackie is better at hiding it than the others but she is a member of Alpha Kappa Alpha
Mrsbb Now I know why she doesn't spend too much time with them. It's exhausting looking at this show for an 1hr. I can't imagine being around them.
Let me begin by saying that I share your views regarding physical violence. It is something that should be avoided at all costs. However, those of us who are mothers understand that when it comes to your child, the "gloves come off". Whether it's directly or indirectly, when someone has hurt or attempts to hurt your child, it activates our "mama bear" instinct. This primal, natural instinct is so strong that it can over power your ability to think and react rationally, causing even the most tolerant, patient and level headed woman loose control. Unfortunately, there's only one way to fully understand just how powerful this feeling is and that is to experience it first hand.
one does not ned to experience childbirth to have empathy for mother-child bond, afterall most of us do have mothers we bonded with. you are being mean spirit to dr walters by your comment above.are you seriously going to fight everyone who says something negative about your child. but i know the point was toya exposed something that was told in secret regarding adoption. franly, i wouldn't want my child in toya's company alone ever again.
If you really pay attention you can see that Mariah is only concerned with HERSELF and her reputation of having a child when she wasn't married. Only other adults are going to here about the paternity thing - and it was already public knowledge. Mariah is not really concerned about Lauren in this picture. Lauren is too young to understand what the adults are talking about, so this is not even going to affect her at this age.
Dr Jackie, I absolutely know where you are coming from with your remarks about disputes. I realize that when you are faced with the prospect of Cancer it gives you a different and respectful view of the world around us and the way we each put our gifts into it. I don't blame you for your views and I don't think you have to pick sides to express your feelings for this horrible situation.
Who new this show would turn into a brawling bunch of ridiculous women. I am disappointed at the turn of events, but I still watch. It seems that the ladies of Atlanta love to fight physically. I don't get it and never will. Some people who comment on these blogs take your show very seriously. They literally take a personal emotional stake in it. They have decided within the first shows who are the good and who are the bad. They have totally bought into the narratives of Mariah and the antics of Quad. Anyone else has become irrelevant.
I enjoy the real ladies of the show no matter what kind of personalities they have, there is no one I have bonded with. I have never connected to people who are fake and gaudy. Those who have to be in the "spotlight " every second. That has never been cute to me or impressive. Usually, its the ones behind the scenes who do all of the work, who are the intelligent ones that make it happen. You are helping to bring life into the world and saving lives along the way. Not walking around as a self proclaimed "Queen B" and flaunting your husbands money. You don't talk in parables but straight verbiage that everyone can understand. I hope this show gets better in the way Black women are portrayed.
Keep up the good work and enjoy your recovery.
I think you should have brought both women at the table and let them air out ...How you approach the whole situation was two faced...
You are a very professional black woman of Atlanta. I think that represent the women of Atlanta very well. Personally, I don't think this is the reality show for you.
I'm sure you would agree that It is not possible to lead unless you model the behavior you want emulated.
I saw the 13 minute look video that bravo put out, where you finally put the two women on equal footing by inviting both and the other women to talk. Unfortunately Toya is arriving at that table with an advantage over Mariah of having given her side of the story during your dinner and making amends with Kari and the rest of the women. Also Toya was never escorted out of the party by security thus increasing public perception that Mariah was guilty of the whole affair.
You left Mariah and Quad out of your dinner, putting them at a disadvantage. You then called Mariah to your office, unfortunately you dismiss her side of story saying that you don't buy it, putting her at a bigger disadvantage.
You judged and you were wrong. Mariah's character has been assassinated and her personal life put in high turmoil. Stop judging.Be the leader you want to be and admit that you made a mistake in judgement. It is your unwitting support and Dr. W. support validates and strengthens Toya's tacky and thuggish behavior. Don't align yourself with such element specially now that her husband Dr. Ugene, has taken to calling Mariah, a woman, wife and mother, a BITCH and can be found encouraging Toya to send un-invites, and gossiping about an innocent 8 year old's very private life. Please don't support them they are beneath you and they will take you down with them.
sassol amen, i so agree and to me that was wrong that even after seeing the footage seeing how toya confronted mariah, seeing how she threw a "glass" drink her mariahs face they still can't own up to the facts. not only that but when mariah was crying at her office, she didn't even try to console her, what kind of doctor is so cold hearted and shallow? wow...and mariah thinks these are her friends, this doctor needs her license revoked! anytime you see a woman crying and you dont try to put your arms around them and comfort them, that shows a cold hearted side of you for no reason. mariah did not just " put her hands on toya", she defended herself after toya threw a "glass" drink in her face. mariah dont own you jack doc, but what you do own mariah is the love of a friend that GOD requires us all to do. so i suggest you woman up and lay your issues and jealousy aside and be what you are supposed to be to mariah, a friend and the so called "good doctor", no real friend would have said the things you said in your interview about a friend. but what would you know when all you care about is keeping up a fake persona, exercise regimen and eating habits, what good is eating right when your soul is dying from an unfulfilled marriage and inner happiness?! you need both, soul and body to be right!
And Dr. Jackie, that's not mudslinging or cowardliness that's truth. Amen sassol
i can't wait for the reunion maybe andy will show these clips again then
Dr. Jackie, you took sides! You took the wrong side because the person that you thought was the victim was actually the antagonist! Own it, apologize, and do better!
Jackie, In the beginning honestly , I really didn't care for your "so above the fray" attitude. Did you know that you were signing up for a show on Bravo? Not OWN or TLC, right? The producers encourage conflict on these types of show. You may have attended medical school however , your no Iyanla Vanzant. How can the women listen to your advice when your carrying yourself like a snob? If you really wanted to help these women you would get to know them before trying to resolve their issues and conflicts. You called Mariah to your office like she was a child. The womanly thing to do would have to meet her for lunch or coffee. You sitting behind the desk talking to Mariah-appeared to me very condescending and cold. I really believe your platform on this show is to promote your medical practice and not to hang out with the other cast members.
@CarmenE @airtonya , I DON'T feel the "better than others" vibe from her. I DO get that she expects certain behavior from grown women.
DixieDarling CarmenE airtonya to me she is the one who needs a sit down with iyanla van zant and fix my life! her toya simone and kari! IYANLA WHERE ARE YOU?! THESE LADIES NEED YOU!
Dixie, you are entitled to your opinion but any one that is not doing better, yet is trying to correct others thinking they are better. If she truly was just expecting them to do better then she should have stayed out of the gossip (she didn't), she should have sat them all down together (she didn't), she should have given Mariah the same respect on her side of the story (she didn't). First how her and the other doctor come on judging Quad. When you are trying to teach others to do better, you show it by example not just words, that will never work, it's very condescending. This is an awesome scripture to go by if you are trying to be the peace maker (Romans 14:10 You, then, why do you judge your brother or sister? Or why do you treat them with contempt? For we will all stand before God’s judgment seat.) In other words don't come at her judging her, ask her how it is you can help heal the situation.
You signed up for the show so don't be mean about it now, calling the viewers that disagree with you cowards. You ladies cause the disharmony when you choose sides period. The problem obviously by this blog is you can dish it out but you can't take it. The only way healing is going to come is when you truly are seeing yourself for who you are and you stop causing so much pain with your fat comments, your put downs, your gossip, your taking sides with someone that is truly mean. Look with in yourself first and change you, that is the first step. You have the nerve to talk about the dis inviting yet you never were fair in inviting all the women together to your home, what a hypocrite you are. It easy to want to think of our selves as a good person and a fair person but trust me you're not. If you are going to fight for unity please learn what that is. Stop looking down your nose at people.
Your dinner party excluded Mariah, but everyone else was invited, your not taking sides right. Your being diplomatic or a hypocrit you choose.
Dr. Jackie I respect what you are saying and get some peace but I can say that you did took "sides" in this situation. At the time you didn't see what was going on and as a viewer I was able to see what was happening. But it is good that you are welling to try
It was one thing that she hadn't seen it while it was being taped BUT her last two blogs she stood by her decision so she is wrong period. It's one thing to be educated, but it's an other to make wise decisions and that she is not doing. The fact that she came on the show on her free will and is now putting down the views that tell truth is very insightful of who she really is. If she truly wanted to be fair and stay out of it, it's simple the words speak for them selves, STAY OUT OF IT.
CarmenE mscgibbs exactly, and she keeps thinking mariah owes her something, mariah dont owe you jack, you are not GOD honey. Iyanla please come fix these lil girls lives, they are a mess!
wow Dr. Jackie you are amazing, not only do you chastise the ladies you are now chastising the viewers, unbelievable
Thank you. Glad you noticed that yoo. Its funny, now that the ladies see Toya started it and was wrong, they (Simone and Jackie) are back tracking and all this other stuff. And as for her commeny regarding the people behind their computers judging, I am sure a lot of people would say this stuff to her face, however shes too much of a wimp to actually give us access to be able to say anything directly to her. Jackie (I refuse to say doctor) i actually liked you, despite how much of a jerk you seemed, but after watching these epiosodes and seeing how you act, I have NO respect for you.@Shayshay1
missveronica20 Shayshay1 Simone egg it on that night.All Simone was doing was drinking and getting into Toya ear.Simone follow Mariah all that night talking about your late .
i think you and simmone or the best on the show as representing how ladies should act but you jackie are too uptight and come across as you don't know how to enjoy life. you want everyone to be like you a health nut and reserved and it's not going happen. you should stop throwing shade and trying to force you family and friends to be like you. i'm sorry i do love quad and mariah for entertainment and their realness, be who the are no matter what. i am glad quad said everyone needs etiquette lessons. forget chatter mouth toya and high & mighty kari.
Unfortunately Doctor, you're preaching to the choir. You can't raise grown women. All you can do is separate from the behavior or stay and endure it. You have a good thing going there so just don't participate in all the awkward partying and shopping. Be there to provide much needed counsel after the weaves fly. Stay above it all.