I think fashion people in general have a tendency to live in their own world. All of their friends are somehow in creative businesses, all their friends are in the entertainment biz, the fashion business, or they're in the art world, so you kind of end up in this small bubble. With a lot of fashion people if you're like, "Oh, are you excited about the Super Bowl?" they'd be like, "Oh, you got a new bowl?" They have no idea what you're talking about! So, the minute these women turned the corner it's like, I don't know anything about this, the only wrestler I can name is Hulk Hogan! I couldn't believe the kind of caricatures that were in front of me. It blew my mind. I also laughed out of nervousness because I knew the designers must have been having a nervous breakdown! This is not real life; it's easier to dress your second grade teacher.