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Rodger Berman

The House of Rachel Zoe

Rodger talks Milan Fashion Week, starting a family, styling Kate Hudson, and more.

August 31, 2010

Bravotv.com: This week we see that Rachel is planning to go to Milan for Fashion Week, but you guys take a detour to London. Were you in favor of that detour?

Rodger: The answer is not really, because we had already been away I think for two weeks by that point, and we had a lot going on, and it was just too much to deal with. All of a sudden we had to re-route everything to stop in London for two nights. I love London, but she was so stressed already, and I didn't want to add another wrinkle to the whole thing and stop at another event. So the answer is not really.

But she went there to meet up with Kate Hudson, and you said you kind of like when she hangs out with Kate, because she turns into this different person. Can you elaborate on that?

Yeah, I kind of look to Kate as a good role model for Rachel. You know she's out there with a great career, she's a mother, she's got a lot going on, but she doesn't let outside things get in her way, and she's a generally happy person. I think she handles herself very well. She's independent, and I think it’s nice for Rachel to be with people that are mothers but also career people. She needs an example in her life

When you guys visit the Missoni studio, you have this moment with Rachel where you point out that it's a family business, and it would be nice if Rachel's business could be like that. Then Rachel takes it like you're pushing her to have a baby.

That's not what I meant. I think what I realized is that this is more than just a business. This could be something that in sixty years from now our grandchildren or our nieces and nephews could be involved with. We're creating something that has lasting value. This could be the beginning of something that people read about. People may not know who Rachel Zoe really was, but they'll know the brand, the name, and it's wild that we could create the House of Rachel Zoe. It's always nice to have family involved so that there's a common thread, and they definitely had that at Missoni. And I thought, "Wow, this is kind of beyond what I thought we were really doing." It just made me feel really good.

We see every year that Rachel doesn't always have a lot of time during Fashion Week, and this year we see that maybe you're being a little more vocal about the time issue and things like even if she doesn't find a certain dress, there's another dress. Are you just at you're breaking point?

I think that for me personally I'm starting to understand that there's a lot more. I've always had a really good ability in my own life to separate business and emotion. Rachel takes everything to heart and really cares so much about every single thing, but I'm just really starting to think the As I get more involved I'm trying to let her know that there shouldn't be these high highs and low lows, it's just business. There are good things and bad things and you have to be very professional about it. You can't just be on this rollercoaster all the time. We've done this before, and for me the novelty has worn off.

We also see the lack of separation between her personal and professional life. Rachel's dressing a little more provocatively for a show and you make a comment and Brad and Joey are there. And you say that they're always there, do you ever say like, "Can you guys leave?"

I don't actually say it. I think Brad's pretty aware of when we actually need to be alone. What happens is that Rachel likes having people around, she really does, even though she's a very, I don't want to say private, but a very independent person. So she is always very happy to have people around. And I'm a social person, I'm happy to have people around, but there's something about living with people in your space all the time that gets to be a little much. Whatever conversation you want to have just with your wife, you can't, because there's always people around. You kind of miss out on having some intimate conversation sometimes. When we go on vacation, and it's just us the two of us and it's such a nice time. It's kind of weird! We do silly things together like grabbing coffee, doing nothing really. But doing nothing one-on-one is refreshing.

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I just wanted to say that Rachael is Fabulous! I adore her. There is nothing I love more in the world than fashion and your career is a fantastic dream to me. I am so excited with talk of your qvc line and anticipate being one of your very best customers.

Hi Rodger,

I heard Rachel state she was concerned with her physical stamina,
ability to carry child full term. She talked about how small she is
and concerns with balancing work and career life. I think it's great
she is talking specifically about her child bearing concerns.
An appointment with a good gynecologist will help answer
some of her concerns. They put you on folic acid before pregnancy
and can do bloodwork to see if any current vitamin deficiencies.
When I needed a good gynecologist I contacted the head of the
gynecology department at Northwestern (Chicago) told them what
I needed and found an excellent physician. There are many Asian
women who are the size of Rachel and have done well with
childbirth. We all have fear of unknown. Every person's process
for working through that is different. Maybe consultation with
gynecologist will ease some of these fears. Becoming mommy means
new status. How beautiful! Good luck.

great baby name...Coco Channel Zoe...you can do it.

Rodger, you are a great guy, very cute and smart. It seems that there is something preventing Rachel from wanting to get pregnant, and you need to find out what that is. I do not think that it is because she is busy- everyone who has kids- from Madonna, to Gwen Stefani, to Posh Beckham- is very busy, and they manage.

It is definitely another reason, and that must be addressed specifically and full on, without getting the brush off. Fashion shows are nice, but the dresses are worn today and forgotten tomorrow in pursuit of another one. In ten years no one will remember if Demi wore the blue dress or the red dress, but in ten years you could have a ten year old boy or girl who would give you lots of "nachas" real happiness on a new level (and future grandchildren!) Clothes are what you see in the mirror, designed by others, but children are a real reflection of you and Rachel.

Love you and Rachel, Rodger! You guys are so cute. My husband watches with me every week and he always cracks up when you and Brad are on together too. We love all you guys- but through my husbands eyes- you make the show!

Roger...Is this 1950 or 2010??? You make me think of all of the women that have stayed home and waited until their very busy husbands had time for them. Of course in the 1950's the women were having the babies...hmmmm I'm thinking that you should commit to being the stay-at-home parent. Maybe Rachel would feel more comfortable if she thought that she wouldn't have to build an empire, give you attention, and raise a child...just saying...you seem really whiny to me and more of a traditional person...Rachel is a career women that made the choice about family long ago by not addressing it...curious how this turns out

I think Rachel is lucky to have such a supportive husband as you are to her. I enjoy watching the show. Life goes by so fast. You guys should have a child. I think you would be terrific parents. Glad Taylor is gone she was all drama.

I waited a long time to have my daughter. She is 7 months old. I had her when I was 42. I totally understand the fear of how a child will change one's life and it will. However, sometimes one must just hold their breath and jump because having children is never about being prepared. The truth is you will never feel prepared. I put it off for a long time but in the end I did want to have at least one child and time was flashing. My best advice, take it or leave it, is just to do it because you will 100% fall in love instantly. A love beyond what you could possibly think you could feel. It's a beautiful thing. Don't think about it just do it and everything WILL fall into its proper place. Trust me I was the most apprehensive and fearful person when we got pregnant. I wouldn't change anything. Take care.

Rodger, I think it is important that you want children. Have you
thought that maybe Rachel is afraid of losing her fashionista figure.
She always avoids talking about it although I have no idea what
goes on when you are off camera. Love the show and everyone on
it.

You did a great thing when you took over the stuff that Rachel really
couldn't cope with.

I'M SENSING TROUBLE ON THE HORIZON!
I understand Rodger how you feel, really, but you k new how Rachel was a long time ago and now you want to change her? thats not going to be easy & could cause some ' serious' problems in your relationship too.
I'm just sayin'.........
it frustrates me to see her flaking you off like she does but I don't see her as doing that as 'mean' or anything its just her!
so hang in there Rodger! stay strong you can and you are!

Rodger, Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I love that you realized that "The House of Zoe" could become a family business for years to come. Although my family was in the Rest. Bus. it was just that a family business. We all came up through the ranks from in the kitchen to the Front of House, to managing one of the locations. Growing up I of course thought it was a pain, but as a mature adult, I see that it helped define who I am and for sure am a better business person now for it. We truely see the caring and love between the two of you, and really like that you are speaking up more this season. Seems to me that you are a great business man and Rachael is the creative one, so the two together makes a successful team. Again thanks for sharing, and I'll keep watching. Pam

Rodger,
Love that you bring a personal, balanced dimension to the show. You're a good counterweight to Rachel and the most trustworthy person in the company since your interests are mutually inclusive.

Doing nothing, silly things on vacation makes for the best vacation.

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