The BAM! Squad

Ep 14: Whatever you do, never start any beef with Kandi Burruss.

on Feb 100

You know the saying "out of the frying pan and into the fire"? Well this week we went out of the frying pan full of bare-chested men going at it and into the fire that is Kandi's extremely terrifying rage.

After Apollo was finally taken far, far away from the Pillow Talk party (and Phaedra located her black Prada bag), it seemed like things had calmed down...for about five seconds. Whatever was in that water and wine clearly had not yet run its course, because Kandi decided this was the time to clear up Natalie's comments about Todd with the larger group. Natalie tried to deny any "opportunist" talk and Cynthia attempted to give her side of all the things that were said, but this went down a little too close to Kandi's personal space. Suddenly Todd's pushing Peter, Malorie pops up to push Todd and Kandi, and then Kandi just snaps.



Now Kandi stays cool about 98% of the time on this show, but every now and again she just goes OFF when someone pushes her too far (i.e. Marlo on the Season 4 Reunion). And it is not pretty. When Kandi gets mad, you just run and head for the hills, because she will "drag you in this, bitch."



I'm almost inclined to agree with Porsha and Phaedra on the fact that there were angry spirits roaming the halls of this party venue. I mean seriously, it was this whole fiasco was so crazy that it may be the only explanation.

137 comments
dehope
dehope

kandi should have maliwhooped mal she was so out of order and Cynthia was too, Cynthia is not going to bust a grape !!!

Jussarah
Jussarah

Kandi has heart.  Every now and then you have to show people who you are. Don't be ashamed of it.  Todd is cute, but I he's not really there for you. What man in you life says he's going to leave to go to a little job?  What man in your life tries to give you an ultimatum about your mom. Even if he felt it, he shouldn't have said it. Todd acts like the relationship is more important to you than to him. Do you really want to marry a guy like that. Your mother is bugging out because she knows a scrub when she sees one.  She's lived long enough to develop that insight.

jmonalisaharris61
jmonalisaharris61

Kandi, stay strong and stay with your mother you are right other people will use you and leave you.. There is nothing and no one in this earth like your mother. She is only looking out for your best interest. I wish I had a Mom like yours don't like the devil fool you. Cause family is first. You just keep on doing the best you can and If Todd don't like it let him get on the bus! Men come by the dozen maybe he is not the right one for you if he can't try and understand and bow down to Mom she brought you in this world. Never ever forget. This world is nothing but a big playground don't get played.

Spirit55
Spirit55

Kandi, I feel sadness for you, and all that you are going thru w/your Mom, and then the outside interferences. 

Todd and you shud consider counseling o get a handle on the naysayers. I wanted to cry, seeing you upset like that.

All of the stresses just probably started to surface. I just wish your Mom cud be happy for you, and realize, that you are a total package. Any man shud be happy to have "you". May the presence of God be w/you and your family.


Beckyy
Beckyy

Kandi, as I watched the last episode when you were explaining to Todd what your mother was trying to do, YOU really let me down.  I've always thought of you as one of the strong women on the show.  If my mom was attempting to destroy my relationship with someone I love I would be FURIOUS with her.  If it came down to me not speaking to her...that's the way it would be.  There is no reason for your mom to act this way at all.  She is jealous of anyone getting next to you and she wouldn't have a problem with you being without a man (just like she is) the rest of your life.  I'm surprised Todd is still there with you, because after what you said him after he told you that you need to address your mom..... I would have picked up my s_ _t and left.  I don't understand why you would not address your mom face to face and say, "Mom, stay out of my business, stop trying to ruin and run my life, get yourself a man and this is the LAST time I'm going to say this to you"!  If you can't love and me happy for me and Todd, then hit the door.

YOU need help Kandi.  I sure thought you were stronger than what you portray on TV.

chachame
chachame

Khandi is my favorite on the show.  I just feel so bad for her though.  Her love for Todd is so real and so genuine and you can look at this man and see that he does not hold the same love and passion for Khandi.  It's sad.  This man love what Khandi can do for him, it is so obvious.  To be blindly in love is tuff.  When he looks at her there's nothing there.  Literally nothing.

LadyMonaco
LadyMonaco

Kandi 's mother is the greediest person I have ever observed...I am a mother and admire people who respect their mother, but I have zero respect for you and your mothers relationship...it is NOT healthy. Her GREED Clouds everything...It is obvious your mother is only concerned with your money. She will try and rid every one from your life if they get too close to you because she is OBSESSED with your $ It is VERY apparent she will try and destroy you and anyone who gets close to you because she is so worried you will be convinced  to not pay her bills  (which I don't know any healthy mother who would allow their child to bankroll their life but 'another story)


It doesn't matter if it is Todd or ANY man,you gave her your house and pay her bills, she KNOWS IT's WRONG so she is deathly afraid someone SANE will convince you not to bankroll her life and that she won't get your entire net worth. You mother wants your money NOT your well being..THAT is NOT love.


 She intentionally wants to cause you  emotional harm by tying to set Todd up..THAT IS NOT NORMAL FOR ANY MOTHER WHO LOVES HER DAUGHTER

I can't praise Todd and Carmon enough for standing by you,,Those are true friends. Please see the light Kandi..poor Carmon has been a friend forever and your mother turned on her..I'd definitely watch out for your daughter because your mother WILL find a reason to find trouble with her soon enough. 



And yes LoLo you nailed  it  Kandi's mom wants to be the ONLY one with access to Kandi's $ and yes Kandi is bankrolling the set up and pain it will ultimately cause her..NO mother who loves their child would even think these thoughts let alone act on them! And she gets away with it because Joyce has brainwashed Kandi with the "That's my Mama" Bull$#t! 

SO SAD!

deila59
deila59

Kandi, I love you girl.  I can't imagine my mother or mothers of any of my friends behaving the way your mother has behaved.  I know you love her but you need to love yourself more and give yourself a chance at happiness.  If Todd makes you happy, then go with that and let your mother find her own happiness.  She's behaving like some sort of a boss taking a hit out on someone.  It's crazy.  I would tell you to "man up" and deal with your mother but in this case you need to "bitch up" and deal with her.

JPEREZ
JPEREZ

kandi needs to put a stop to her mama before she finds herself by herself

LoLo72
LoLo72

Kandi's reaction to hearing about Todd being set up was strange. She was almost defending her mother. I'm so sick of hearing "that's my mama". I understand respecting one's mother but what will be next a contract on his life? I bet the set up was going to be paid with Kandi's own money. Mama is more worried about setting Todd up than the pain it will cause her daughter. What women of her age would even think about that idea? One that wants to be the only one with access to the cash flow. She cares more about Kandi's money than her well being & happiness. If I were Todd & Carmon, I would say "see ya". How would Kandi feel if Todd's family was trying to set her up? Kandi can still respect her mother but should tell her "cut it off or get cut out".

jdolph
jdolph

Kandi, distance yourself from your mother  or be alone forever 


newcookiewow
newcookiewow

PRENUPE!,,,If really loves you and not wanting your money he'll sign,,,He's working got his own money,,But watch Carmon!

newcookiewow
newcookiewow

Kandi get a male assistant,,,like a MIss Lawrence!! Give Carmon another job somewhere where she's kinda out of house so much. Maybe in your office your there's  working ,not around you and Todd so much,,If she's truly a friend she will understand. A paycheck is a paycheck,,hang out with Carmon when it's girl time. If she resist or Todd out up a fuss about it somethings wrong. She's too close,,to you and your man.

Jody289
Jody289

Kandi sending much love and happiness your way. :))

fourgirls
fourgirls

Kandi, I am praying you grow up.  When ppl are wrong, they are wrong!! and your mom is wrong.  I'm no teenage, I am a 64 year old mother and grandmother.  You do need help.  You can love your mom but you need to know when to cut her off.  My kids (adults) love me but there are boundaries with their relationship with their significant others.  Whether Todd is a mistake or not.  Your mother setting him up and cursing your bff is unacceptable.  Think about it......Todd is the only one of the housewives husband that actually had a job.  Beware of haters.........

ejeanTx
ejeanTx

Kandi, Mama Joyce is looking out for your best interest. As an only daughter my mother use to be the same way with me and ironically she was always right. She would say if you just listen,some heartaches you don't have to go through. I love the way you stood up for your Mom tonight. Friends come and go, men come and go but a real mother like Mama Joyce will always be there. Not that it matters , I don't care for Carmen... Stay strong and stay down with your Mom.

coffeeflavored
coffeeflavored

The words written by mimi arigonni say exactly what i was going to write.  And second note, Kenya never charged Natalie, she only stood up and walked to her as the woman was so rude to ask Kenya a question and then not allow her to answer without interuppting, and when her man stood up first, he refused to sit down and if Kenya wanted to stand...... by all means let her stand also.   But what about Big Chuck standing BEHIND his woman during the melee.   Priceless.  

Sensa
Sensa

Team Kandi! You gotta knock them up once in a while. You actually apologized, very mature but they don't deserve it. 

vfmcc
vfmcc

Kandi, why did you feel you had to reveal that Peter was getting a lap dance?  You could have kept it to yourself.  No one asked you to be the voice of truth.  People need to know when to speak and when not to speak about something, especially in a room of other people. 

CupofTruth
CupofTruth

KANDI IS MY FAVORITE AND THE REALEAST ON THE SHOW!!!! If you push me, I am SNAPPING... Mal pushed her man, then pushed her... then she did what most of us would do, defend ourselves... I am proud of her apology, although she really didn't owe any of them one... I think the apology was for herself, her daughter, her family, her BRAND (she is the only one on the show with a TRUE BRAND, outside of this show... her a Pha)... for that, I love her more... If the viewers recall... KANDI clapped back at NENE during her first season with RHOA... Nene was indeed jealous of the new housewife, Kandi, and thought she was going to get in her face and check her BUT Kandi ended up doing the checking... and don't the Sasquatch to get out of her face... Kandi has never been a push over, no matter her size... and this is just one of many reasons why I adore her! She doesn't need the show, she is the real RICH chick on the show, so she may want to reevaluate her place on the show.... It was a rough season for her and some things shoud be handled privately... Love you Kandi!

Northa13
Northa13

I watched the footage of the Kandi blow up several times. I can honestly say that Kandi jumped bad when Malorie pushed Todd. Kandi went at her and that is when Malorie pushed Kandi back. Kandi may have used the excuse of Malorie touching her but her real reason was Todd. She became enraged when Malorie pushed Todd. When Peter said "ya'll acting strange" Kandi came from behind Todd stood beside Todd and said "say whatttttttttt". She would have fought any one of them for Todd, but Todd did say to Kandi "I got this". Kandi it's good you stand with your man, but honey please let Todd be the man. He had that.

jjrn13
jjrn13

One more thing, every body seems to be so worried about Kandi's Todd...laughable really.  Every one of these woman are being used, dogged, by their husbands...there's not a successful man in the lot.

jjrn13
jjrn13

Kandi, this a perfect example of no good deed going unpunished. While you apologized, NOBODY else acknowledged their own misdeeds. BTW, you were not wrong...first Cynthia gets up in your grill, then her crazy sister starts shoving you and Todd around followed by Peter, behaving like a bully wash women, comes barreling in, chest all puffed out, big man pushing around, menacing a little girl.

    The next day, Peter, self appointed King Tut and inspiration of much of the chaos, is acting innocent and bewildered while Cynthia is mocking you.  Obnoxious, the both of them.

     I find it interesting, the lot of them prancing around like they are all that...truth be told, Kandi is the ONLY one among them with talent and, ironically, is also the only humble one among them. 

mimi.arrigoni
mimi.arrigoni

"Lets keep it real" Nene started this mess! Kandi apologized for her behavior, Cynthia had no business getting in Kandi's face, Malorie should apologize to Todd and Kandi, Apollo  really needs to apologize to Brandon, Christopher should not have grabbed Kenya," he was the first to get physical " Brandon was only protecting his friend Kenya, Malorie just got in the middle to push people around, like why was she there anyway? I was very disappointed at Nene mocking Kandi, everyone needs to  apologize, Kandi was the only one with class enough to apologize...... on another note Mama Joyce needs to stop being so selfish, and if Kandi wants to keep her man she needs to tell Mama Joyce to stay out of her personal life period, trust me she will get over it, she needs to respect her boundaries.

ConservativeOCmom
ConservativeOCmom

Kandi! You have really disappointed & shocked me (as did the rest of the bunch).  You have all lost that light hearted humor that was so endearing in the beginning.  Now it's become this distasteful, mean-spirited, scary dynamics of a show.  I am just appalled at how you treat each other always trying to degrade each other.  It's shocking, you think of yourselves as friends.  As for your mother, she is painfully selfish not wanting to share in your happiness.  Sometimes we just have to separate ourselves from what it negative in our lives.  She has no foundation or business for her behavior & words regarding your life.  It's sad and painful to watch. She is jealous and mean so steer clear and hopefully she will come to her senses on her own.  Stop trying to please HER and do whatever makes you and Todd happy.  When she sees you happily married for a few years, maybe she'll get over it.  Good luck to all of you.

mercymercy
mercymercy

Excuse me, but am I the only one that saw Peter at the end confront Kandi and Todd because they were acting strange after the altercations at the pillow talk disaster?  And he did it pretty confrontational, then he was about making everything good with Todd a little later?  Maybe, I am hallucinating

So it appears that Kandi and ONLY Kandi gives a sincere apology for losing her temper.  Still waiting for the rest of them to apologize.  I won't hold my breath, though.

momknows2
momknows2

Khandi, when are you going to let Todd go.  The day after the brawl that NeNe started at the pj party, Carmen disrespected you when you, Todd and her t were in the kitchen when she said, "you are just like your mother" and you looked at her with a strange look.  Her contempt for you was emboldened when Todd came into the room and that's when she said it.  Then Todd disrespected you in front of her when he referred to your anatomy as a "tiddy" .  The two of them looked at you with such contempt it was hurtful.  They do not like you Kandi.  Let them go.  


Also, you do not owe Cynthia an apology for anything.  She is picking on you.  

dollar51
dollar51

when you said you did  not care about your fans  don't care about you !!!! bye!!!!

ivictoria
ivictoria

Kandi why are you apologizing to Cynthia You let these girls convince you that you did something wrong! Cynthia and Peter were all up in your face and her sister touched you. You had every right to be upset. Now had you acted like Apollo and gave Cynthia and her sister a beat down then they would have something to cry about.

Cynthia and Nene do the viewing audience a favor and SHUT UP about it unless you r going to be honest.

chachame
chachame

@LadyMonaco, I totally agree.  I truly hope Khandi reads this.  Your mother is so unappreciative of all you have done for her and her greed is so obvious.  When she said she was through with you I wanted you  to say okay, lets see how long you last without my ends then.  She plays on your sympathy and your loyalty and screws your mind up so bad,  I say cut her off financially, and your aunts to and lets see where you and her relationship goes.

yd
yd

@LoLo72 Yes, Kandi really needs to put some major distance between herself and her mom and try to put her in some sort of treatment program.  This type of behavior is very troubling.  I feel very bad for Kandi.

yd
yd

@Jody289 Ditto!  You have a good heart Kandi.  We want the best for you.

rllydoh
rllydoh

@vfmcc I thought the same thing.  Kandi's so busy trying to throw Peter under the bus, that she's not even paying attention to Todd's dirty hands.  What's the man code?  Peter knows Todd's secrets?  Hmm!  Something just doesn't seem right about Kandi always getting so defensive when it comes to Todd.  Seems like she knows something isn't right but is trying to save face. 

Eurogirl
Eurogirl

@BeHonestAndClear Mama Joyce is insane. With a  mama like that who needs enemies. She keep sabotaging her relationships. That's deranged not protective.

intuitive1
intuitive1

@jjrn13 According to Nene, Gregg took care of her in the beginning. I guess now it's his turn.

JLSOBE
JLSOBE

@jjrn13  The guy is short, not that good looking, and simply using Kandi.  She is smart, intelligent and successful.  She can use him, to clean his kitchen I guess.


( no Kandi, you are not that old to be a sugar momma.  You can get it all !!)

del.tru
del.tru

@jjrn13 ... "Kandi is the ONLY one among them with talent and MONEY..."  Just thought I'd add that little tidbit.

CupofTruth
CupofTruth

@mimi.arrigoni Nene is jealous of Kandi, always has been, from day one... she was waiting on a day to talk about her...

NJ-Roses
NJ-Roses

@mercymercy  Peter looked pretty liquored-up to me.  If there was anyone acting strange, it was Peter. His usual obnoxious self was amplified. He had no remorse for holding down Brandon while Apollo beat him.

Nene, Cynthia, Peter, Apollo, Phaedra, Natalie and Christopher all need to apologize to Brandon and Kenya for their horrific behavior and the way that they spoke about it and mocked them later.  NeNe thinks that everyone owes HER an apology.  Typical narcissist!

As far as apologies go, I won't hold my breath, either.  Arrogant people never apologize.  Humility is a quality that is lacking in that Atlanta Housewives gang.


Eurogirl
Eurogirl

@momknows2 Because she DID act like her mother that night. Did you see Kandi's face? She had the same mannerisms. The are looking at her with contempt because they are losing respect for Kandi. She won't put her mother in her place and let's her threaten and extort her fiancé and best friend. I'd look at her with the same disgust.


If Kandi doesn't set her mother straight, she will never be happy. Her mother chose to bring her into this world. She shouldn't make Kandi feel like she owes her anything.

debharrington
debharrington

@momknows2  I am definitely not seeing what you are seeing. Maybe you just want to see something that isn't there. Is this mama Joyce of a friend of hers?

chachame
chachame

ivictoria, I agree.  Someone please sit Cynthia in front of the television so that she can see her, her sister and Peter's behavior, it was awful.  Khandi's reaction was so real, so human of her. Cynthia and her crew need to apologize to Khandi and Todd

NJ-Roses
NJ-Roses

@ivictoria  I felt that the way that Kandi flipped out at the Pillow Talk party must have been something like the way that her Mama Joyce flipped out when she was angry.  It kind of explains why Kandi is a little afraid of her mother.

If Kandi's mother flipped out like that when she was a child, Kandi probably had to apologize to Mama Joyce in order to get back in her good graces.

Something is going on with that.  Kandi is trying too hard to be a "good girl" and a people-pleaser.

I find it painful to listen to NeNe and Cynthia spinning the truth and telling their lies.

BeWiseNotFoolish
BeWiseNotFoolish

@debharrington Todd is going to spend Kandi's money like it's his IF they get married.  He knows he has Kandi's head messed up.  He's always using his scare tactic saying he has the option to leave the "relationship" if Miss Joyce doesn't respect him.  Continued threats to walk isn't love in my opinion.  I see right through Todd's GAME.  IF Kandi marries him, I wouldn't be surprised if Todd sues her for alimony a few years AFTER they found out what a mistake it was to get married.  Kandi lost herself and dumbed herself down to be with him. 

Eurogirl
Eurogirl

@NJ-Roses @ivictoria You hit the nail on the head. I know someone who's mother was a lunatic like Joyce. He to this day has been trying to please her and he's 55! He's terrified of her still. Geez, mothers really do play a huge part in how you turn out. I need to be nicer to my boys! LOL!