My opinion: love ken and mauricio, have always been a huge Kyle fan (I'm allowed my own opinion), Kim should leave, carlton HAS to leave (adds nothing of value), Joyce is beautiful and also like her hubby, brandy....can take or leave her but do not like the disrespect towards Joyce!!!! Yolanda is a fruitcake, verrrrrrry hard to watch and even worse when she talks childish, and Lisa, Lisa, Lisa, I'm sooo confused. Used to admire her, now I feel sorry for her as I feel she's got herself caught up in a "bloody" web.
The problem is Ken and Lisa befriend or take in these people then get angry when something comes up that might seem like a slight to them.(No, not in Cedric's case,that was a different story, you're right, I hadn't know those details) I think as caligirl said,Mauricio came down on Brandi but when Ken came down on the other women that was different. It shouldn't be a double standard. Joyce's husband stood up for her, that was wrong too. Only Ken can get involved it seems.
Nice to see how much kim has kyles back now, how come kyle couldn't be more like her sister, when kim really needed her help, .........kyle threw her under the bus time and time again. Kim is the better sister here, TEAM KIM
I'm sorry but Lisa has changed this season and to me not in a good way. I find her very manipulative and two faced. I don't trust her. Then when someone calls her on the things that she has said, she lies about it or acts as though she doesn't recall what happened. I use to like Lisa but not anymore!
Why would Lisa save Brandi over Scheana? At this point Brandi has been so horrible to Lisa and her husband, spreading lies, etc., I wouldn't blame Lisa if she didn't want to even be in the same room as Brandi much less save her from a fire over someone who has been loyal to her. Also, btw, Kim is so hard to watch. I just have such a difficult time not changing the channel when Kim is on. Ugh.
Friendship is a two way street.Kyle, Kim, Yolanda & Brandy need to learn this life lesson This is another attempt to villify Lisa. Too bad. It is NOT working. They are making themselves look selfish bitter, shallow, and small minded..Kim is hypersensitive about her sobriety, and so therefore won't tolerate it when Lisa or ANYONE else notices her absence at events.But remember she believes it is OK when she points out that Lisa and Ken were not in attendance at her daughters graduation party. Double standards anyone??? I get why Carlton was offended by Kyle's questions about her religion. It was disrespectful and intrusive to question Carlton on camera about her private beliefs. She felt that she was being put on the spot. In this country there is still such thing as relgious bigotry. Wiccans and their families are often victimized by those who do not understand their beliefs. Lives are threatened, children are removed from homes, physical threats to property are made, Is it any wonder that Carlton would balk at answering questions with these factors in play. Also this might be considered a violation of her private beliefs. Everyone has their own belief system and those boundaries were crossed.
The look on Gebbia's face when Kyle refers to the pentagram on Richard Ramirez', the Nightstalker's, hand was priceless.
Clearly this is an attack on Lisa. All at once, everyone except the new women have different issues with Lisa. Whether it was Lisa, or any other member, it's wrong to gang up on someone. Those women who are picking on Lisa need to look in the mirror and look at what they have done to their castmates. I don't know that they could do that because they all want to feel important and the star of the show. Shame on them.
I love you Andy! I give you credit for putting up with a bunch of snarky,mean, trash! I do have to say though, that Lisa, Kyle,Joyce and Kim rock!I just wish they could see through brandi, she is so NASTY!When Brandi turns on you, everyone gets hurt,goes to show, that money does not but friends or good manners.Yolanda is cool and has had a lot of health problems,and there is that foreign element to her, but she is beautiful and smart,but Joyce tops them all, They all seem to be jealous of Lisa at some time or another,and Brandi, that girl has been involved with SUR for 5 years and NOW you bring it up, because it suits your purpose, to turn all the women against her(let's face it Brandi, your exhusband screwed everyone,GET OVER IT!)Oh yeah, one more thing, I have seen all these woman drunk, and (BRANDI) on drugs(XANAX) on the plane, stop throwing stones and handle your bizniss!
Lisa is just as messy as the rest of the ladies. She went along with the horrible comments Brandi made. I will say that I don't blame Ken for cutting Brandi off. She is toxic and rest assured that she is going to turn on Yolanda just as she has everyone else.
Love you Lisa, and Ken. So what if she points out that Kim is late or doesn't show up, it's true She was a pain in the ass. And she still is. Leave Lisa alone, you and Brandi are so angry.
Kim, you made those choices to do whatever you were doing. Sounds to me like you are blaming Lisa? Please!! YOU made the choice to drink and do whatever else. It's YOUR choice NOT Lisa's. Your own sister Kyle made a huge deal in the past seasons when you didn't show up for stuff. Are you serious? You should be more mad at Kyle than at Lisa coz Kyle is supposed to be your family. Shut up and get off the show. Nobody cares and just so you know, your behavior does not speak well of you. Are you sure that you are following the 12 step program?
Bugger off Lisa, anyone who watches the show knows you make comments and eye rolls when Kim is speaking! Yolanda Ohio respects you and David.
For Lisa to bring up Kim's son's incident was such a low blow, and if all the Lisa fans can't see what she was trying to do right there with that "innocent" comment then I don't know what else to say. That's exactly that type of things Lisa says, she makes that comment trying to show concern but her real intention is to bring this issue up for the public to hear about it when Kim has wanted that issue to remain private.
LISA is the REALEST HOUSEWIFE in all of REAL HOUSEWIVES!!! CLASSIEST,SMARTEST,AND MORE MATURE THAN ANY OF THEM!!! LIKE SHE SAYS-SHE OWNS THAT TOWN!LOL GO LISA!!! JUST to prove how scared the other housewives are to go up against her-they had their little meetings before they even confronted her! they fear LISA,AND WITH VERY GOOD REASON-SHE RUNS THAT TOWN AND THIS SHOW WOULDN'T AND COULDN'T MAKE IT WITHOUT LISA!!! TEAM LISA-100%!!! SHE KEEPS IT REAL-DARLING! LOL-GOTTA LOVE HER!!
Why is Kim upset with LIsa that she is a recovering drug addict/alcoholic. She is putting the blame on her as if they were great friends and they weren't. She is so strange.
@cleanfreak I don't understand your use of the word "wrong." There's nothing wrong with a husband defending his own wife if public.
@waveoflife This is exactly how I feel about her too!
You are spot on! She used to be my favorite. I thought she was so respectful, now my eyes are wide open to her shenanigans.
@galadriel511 You've raised excellent points; there are some things, such as a person's religious practices, that another person should not bring up in public for discussion on a TC show.
@MidgieB Sorry, but I think Andy did a horrible job of moderating this reunion as well as others. There are answers we all want and he is allowing folks to yell and scream over the person we want to hear the answers from. Andy should have told Brandi her question was unreasonable and Lisa would have save both Scheana and Brandi in a fire. No Andy finally tells everyone else to be quiet and personally ask Lisa the question.
@mark.emond1 you obviously don't watch the show
@mark.emond1 They are!
Kim, Kyle, Yolanda, and Brandy need to realize friendship is a two way street.. I don't understand why you are attacking Ken. He did nothing more than any decent man would do in defending his wife. Lisa has always taken the high road. She has defended Brandy when there was no defense. She has always had Kyle's back, even when it was questionable to do so. Lisa has shown concern for Kim, nothing more or less. Kim is hypersensitive about her sobriety. The girls who are doing all the finger pointing need to remember that when they point their fingers at Lisa there are three fingers pointing back at themselves.
Well.. They are! They have never stuped to the rage the others have. They have exhibited restraint & suffered overwheing emotional abuse from so called friends. They Did not pull the Adraian card ... threaten a law suit. U would think brandy would learn something just once in her life, for her kids sake.
@mark.emond1 Lisa & Ken don't think they are above everyone.....THEY JUST ARE!
@petunias1 I roll my eyes when Kim is around also.
@petunias1 Kim rolls her eyes every chance she gets. Haha.
All Kim had to do was say she had forgotten about Lisa's sympathetic telephone call and then
apologize to Lisa for her unkind words. (Basically, Kim comes across as someone FAR
from recover & Bravo is the last place she needs to be. If she wants the best for
herself and her family, she needs to retire from this show, asap.)
Also, if Kim reviewed the show's videos, she would see it was her sister, Kyle, who made
a big deal about Kim being late for events, missing events & her bizarre behavior, etc. etc..
BTW -Yolanda did something similar to Lisa. After bad-mouthing Lisa, Yolanda was stumped when
Lisa countered Yolanda's fabrications by talking about their dinners out and visits
during Yolanda's illness.
It seems to me that the "low blows" are not coming from Lisa.
@Starbk77 Please...she thought he broke a leg. It's not like Kyle calling her sister an alcholic on nationwide television, or saying that Kim is a meth addict. Give me a break!
@Starbk77 Uh, it's a reality show. There's no privacy on a reality show. Stop trying to make excuses for Kim, she does enough of that on her own.
@Starbk77 Kim shouldn't be attacking and saying things like "you don't care about anyone" and expect for Lisa not to mention the things that she has done. How do you know Kim wanted this to be private? I respect her for doing a great job with her recovery, but part of the road to recovery is also taking accountability for her actions, forgiving and regaining the trust of her friends and family again. Don't blame Lisa and except her or anyone else to walk on egg shells, Kim sure as heck is not.
Because Lisa is bringing attention to it on national TV. Sure it's reality TV but why bring out the negative?
@BarbarainNY @cleanfreak It just seems that Ken talks about other men defending their wives but as soon as anybody says anything about Lisa he starts yelling at the women and calling them stupid...why can HE do it and Joyce and Kyle can't be defended by their husbands? It's always a double standard. I always liked Ken until all this started..
@ulatowski @Starbk77 Yeah right, she made sure to say the name of the kid who suffered that terrible incident. When even the tabloids did not disclose his identity, but no, Lisa made sure that the whole world knew that it was Kim's son. "I thought he broke his leg", you give me a break! She knew exactly what happened! Children should be off limits, getting other people's children involved is hitting below the belt.
@shivaperre @Starbk77 The incident with Kim's kid was awful and Lisa was horrible to mention it. She could have said Kim had a sad issue and she reached out, she didn't have to go into detail about Kim's son and all the stuff that happened. It was a deeply personal and sad time for her family, and Kim and Kyle should be furious at Lisa for saying that. I can't believe Lisa brought that up, actually. Really bad.
@cleanfreak @BarbarainNY It was two things in particular, the ganging up by the other RHBH on Lisa, and Yolanda's twice inserting herself when Ken was attempting to have a private conversation with Mauricio. I see no double standard in husbands rising to defend their own wives from such attacks, no matter which husbands choose to respond.
@LeftyLemon @shivaperre@Starbk77 Lisa didn't mention what actually happened to her son, she reminded Kim that she called to see if Kim was OK. Kim brought up that Lisa has never called her, so Kim got back what she gave! Kim should have sat there and kept her mouth shut! If it were Lisa's son, Kim would have told the whole story just to spite Lisa! Kim is a mean, nasty woman!