Let me discuss the continuation of the argument at the table. I want to say there are only two people that know all of what was said in Las Vegas. And that is Kyle and myself. I know that her sister was there for part of the conversation but not the whole time. This may or may not ever be sorted out because we have two differing opinions of what really was said. As far as this argument goes...I was already not comfortable with Kyle's jab at me about being insecure while she was apologizing up in the room. It was not meant as a compliment, and it stung. I probably would have let it go, but after talking with Taylor I found out that at the airport everybody was talking about me. I was very hurt to hear that all of the women that I had invited to share an important night in my life with, had been talking ill of me. I can't imagine that any other person on this planet would feel differently. Nobody likes to feel like they are being torn apart behind their back. So, I went down (by the way, there was no running or flying down the stairs) to clear the air. I had no intention of this turning into another argument. Now in retrospect, I should have known better because I had witnessed a few incidents of Kyle belittling and berating her sister. I didn't know that she had such a short fuse. Remember I had only spent a few hours with her in my life. Maybe I should have used another approach, I don't know but, I was learning the lesson of "Kyle", the hard way.
Now to admit my own disappointment with myself. I am not proud of losing my cool in my interview following this incident. Not only had things gone badly in New York, but I had also double checked to see if Kyle had left me any messages prior to the trip to New York which she had claimed when she was apologizing. I was right I had no messages from her. I can only assume she said this to put me on the defense, to make me look like I was putting no effort into smoothing things over before the NYC trip. I want to be clear that I had no messages in my voicemail and no one had taken any personal messages from her at my home. So with all of this on my mind, I said a few things that I wish I could take back. Unfortunately this isn't the way it works in life or on the show. All I can say is that I am sorry and I will try to do better in the future.
The truth is that as time has gone by, I have come to really enjoy Kyle. We have had a few ups and downs over this season. Everyone is going to have an opinion. My personal thoughts are that I like Kyle. I think Kyle has a great sense of humor, and I can appreciate her personality a lot more now that I know her better. I just don't want to be the one caught in her "crosshairs."
Until next time,
My opinion of you after reading this blog just went way up. I really like that you realized that you were out of line and immature in your interview at the end of the show. Best to you.
I will say Camille of all the housewives you are probably my least favorite on the show. With that being said I am quite shocked that you apologized in this blog. This whole blog has pleasantly surprised me. Maybe I need to reevaluate my opinion of you.
I have been dying to get a post up for a long time so hopefully this one gets posted. Can somebody please address the comments that Camille made comparing Kelsey’s social status to Mauricio? I was shocked that sort of snobbish word vomit came out of Camille’s mouth. She said “maybe its because her husband works for us” and then started to reference Kelsey as an A-list Celebrity and Mauricio as just a local BH realtor. I thought it was rude and real low blow for Camille.
C, If Kyle was mean to you once she will be mean again. I would never talk to anyone again who told me I needed a psychiatrist, and I am insecure. This was your guest. I think Kyle is a bully. You do not need her as a friend. She is just nice to you so you do not fire her husband. I would be a better friend to you.
No need to apologize for being sensitive. There is a huge difference between being insecure and being sensitive. Personally, I find Kyle to be totally without class. I have a feeling that she was a mean girl in high school. I don't see the two of you ever being good friends because you are both completely different people.
Why can you not admit that maybe you misunderstood her words or her intentions? It would not be the first time two people had a conversation that was misinterpreted. I think maybe you thrive on the drama. And that maybe the other women hit the nail on the head when they talked about your insecurity. Try letting this go and see if you can build a relationship with these women.
Although I am not a big fan of yours, I am happy that in the end you and Kyle are now civil, or even friends. Glad it all worked out in the end.
To take that much pleasure in being able to negatively impact someone's livelihood is disturbing. I understand your were hurt and angry, but to giggle as you say "guess we'll be getting a new real estate agent" was just plain mean and vindictive.
It must be deeply destabilizing to be going through a divorce. Feeling rejected may have eroded bits of self confidence. Could you imagine that these powerful feeling of loss may have clouded your reaction to Kyle? We remember you from CLUB MTV, you will always have a bright future in dance. You still look the same 20 plus years later..good for you..
Where to I begin? At the beginning... Camille, you may not see it now, (or at the time this show aired), but this may very well be the beginning of a valuable and MUTUAL friendship for you. Although it has begun with some fireworks, this relationship you have entered with Kyle may turn out to be one of the best friendships of your life. She is not going to kiss your fanny like so many of these people that surround you do. Kyle will always tell you the truth whether you want to hear it or not, and clearly she is willing to stick it out to pick up the pieces. That is a friend. A mutual relationship. Do you really want to hear how "f.a.b.u.l.o.u.s" you are 20 times a day, from people who think you can do something for them. A friendship with Kyle is a chance for you to see that people will value you more for who you are inside, because clearly she couldn't care whose husband is on the higher "rung" or "tier" or however you put it. You should run to that, not away from it. (PS-Dear Bravo, I am a loyal fan of your network and shows. I have posted like a zillion comments--and never once to they make the blog. Please, please post at least this...THanks)
Kyle is a brat. She is rude to you and to her sister. Apparently, she thinks she has wings and pretends to be such an angel. It is obvious she needs to feel she is better than everyone else including her own sister. I think she is threatened by you. That being said your comment about her husband was very rude.
Camille, I think your true colors really came out last night. It's sad for anyone to have to go through the end of a marriage and do it in the public eye has to be hard. For that I'm sad for you. But, to talk about how women need to celebrate each other and then to say Kyle acted like a "screaming homeless woman" WOW. You are such a contradiction in the way you act and the things you say. I wonder where you put yourself in the pecking order in life now. I really hope that you can over-come what is clearly alot of insecurity. Your a beautiful woman no doubt but what we are seeing from you is really not beautiful at all. Maybe watching yourself on the show will be a learning experince for you at least we can all hope. Good luck I think your going to need it.
Editing can play a part in perception, however, as a whole, most people have formulated their opinions based on all that they have seen. When the whole pictures presents itself, the obvious common denominator is your insecurity. You defend yourself almost every time you speak. As a mother, as a wife, as a philanthropist and as a person. It always seems to be about "winning" something. When someone constantly defends themselves, it becomes more about convincing themselves that they are all the things that they defend. The best thing that I can tell you is to look in the mirror and own who and what you are and accept your mistakes and live for the rewards. Nobody expects perfection, as a matter of fact, people are more endeared to those that can laugh at their own imperfections. This is called "secure" with who and what they are in life. During this very rough road you need to pull inward and work on finding your inner strength. You need to be more concerned about how you feel about yourself rather than how you THINK others feel.
I am a fan of you, but you come off extremely insecure with your reaction to the word "insecure". A secure individual would probably care less about someone calling them insecure because they know better.
Your explanation of the NYC trip was very articulate & made absolute sense.
You also retained your "Class" by not allowing yourself to become baited into Kyle's argument at the dinner table.
You exude High-Class, Camille.
I like you and i totally agree with what you said to Kyle, and about cutting off business with her husband. She messed up bottom line, you shouldnt apologize for saying what you did. She should never have questioned you about Hawaii or your personal life. She doesnt even know you. You guys were not friends. She is a bad person that talks crud, and it shows. I am so glad you SNUBBED her and her husband on your interview. Dont ever let anybody question you like that. I have been telling everybody that the whole cast is jealous of you except for Adrienne. You and Adrienne have it going on. You go Camille!!!! Love ya!
You are your own worst enemy. You are very beautiful and have had many advantages but you need to show some grace. I can't imagine that any of those women spend a moment being jealous of you - they are all beautiful and accomplished.
That said, you are really fascinating to watch in the show and are my favorite.
Camille, you owe a sincere apology to Mauricio. What you said, spoke volumes of your character. I'm glad you like Kyle everyone does. She very funny . The viewers adore her. It's a shame you got off to a bad start. I'm hoping the shows to come we'll see you all getting along.
Insightful blog Camille! Yes this argument happened some time ago however I do not blame you one bit for 'calling out' bad behavior. You were acting as a gracious host and gossip on the plane was out of line by any social standards. Women can become jealous and insecure when a beauty such as yourself is around and around their husbands. Your friend D.D. has your back! Stay strong with all that is happening in your life currently. Best wishes.......Kate
Camille you have a gentle way about you that makes one think how pleasant it could be to sit and visit with you. I'm enjoying getting to know you although through little clips here and there. Too bad Kelsey made the decision to look for love elsewhere. Hang in there......you'll find TRUE LOVE.
I don't understand how you get away with treating people the way you do. No one is jealous of you ma'am. You would have to actually be worthy of that. You need to start being a better person and not worrying about what you have or look like.
People generally are not caught in the "crosshairs". Their actions and behavior make them a target.
With that said..................
I'm really glad you have grown to like Kyle. I think you were totally unfair to her. Her comment about you being insecure was not a put down. I think all the women really care about you, but you did not come accross as a good person on last night's episode. I hope things improve for all of you and I love the show!
What episode did you watch? Everyone at the airport was NOT talking bad about you. Yes, they were discussing you, Kyle and the Las Vegas conversation but everyone wanted it to be worked out so everyone had a great time in NY. Nobody was tearing you apart behind your back. Go back and watch the episode of them in the airport yourself. Watching the conversation you had with Kyle and her remark about you being insecure? It looked as if she said that nonchalantly. In my opinion, it didn't look like she said this to you as a 'jab'. I think she genuinely thought you were being insecure. Again, in my opinion, on the show, you do seem to act insecure at times.
I was a bit surprised that you had apologized about your remarks towards Kyle, and I hope you did so in person. As a faithful viewer Kyle seems like a very dedicated mother, friend, and an amazing individual. You should be ashamed of your disgusting remarks towards Kyle and her family. You talk about women should be "empowering" each other and then in your next breath you call Kyle a "homeless person"!! I hope your divorce forces you to reevaluate yourself, as you are no longer an A-lister my friend.
You need to learn to let things "go". I don't know how you managed to stay married for 13 years if you always have to have the last word and always be "right." I have been married twice, 23 years the first time and now going on 19. I have learned alot and believe me, it is not worth having to always be right and having the last word in relationships and marriages. Also, I would never flirt with a friend the way you do with Nick. Why his wife doesn't call you out is beyoond me. It is simply not appropriate no matter what you say or how you try to condone it.
You can tell that Kelly is Paris Hilton's aunt. She is spoiled and she is not nice to her sister. Why people like her I don't know. The other woman seem much nicer. I am sorry that your husband treated you so badly at the play. He seemed to dismiss you. We all know now it was because he was wanting his time with the 29 year old flight attendant. How classy???? I hope you can start dating Nick (whoever that hot guy is that checks in on you). In any event, you will have no trouble finding men that want to date you. Just get off that show. It is hard to not be seen badly in those catty housewife shows. It is way to good for you. You don't need the money or the drama.
I find it sad that you're experiencing these situations in your life, and the majority of what you're dealing with is quite negative. It would be unfair to judge your marital status and how you've reached this point in the marriage...as the saying goes, "It takes two..." Your children are young and it must be really tragic for them. The public only sees a small glimpse of your life, yet what you're portraying isn't praise worthy at all! Your body language, your verbiage...EVERYTHING about you speaks to insecurities (the dreaded word). I believe the issue so many viewers have with you is the constant bragging when so many are struggling financially. It's so distateful and in my opinion, makes you unappealing to many. You appear to be very self-important, very smug. Humility goes a long way!!! You should work on that approach instead. Hopefully, you and your BH friends will work at peacemaking. If Kyle said what you are blaming her for, move on! She doesn't seem cruel, so perhaps if it was said, it was without forethought or malice. That's what makes Lisa so attractive to the majority. She's beautiful, like you...yet, she doesn't seem to enjoy the petty nonsense. You really do come off as very passive aggressive at times and those types of folks are the hardest to read, yet alone befriend. Don't lose friends now at a point in your life when you'll need them the most!
Great blog Camille, thanks for letting us understand more of what happened. I truly do understand the situation. She had hurt you with words and you did the same in the interview explaining the argument. That is how life goes. For what it is worth, I am on your side. Good Luck!
There is s saying..."the dog that brings a bone carries a bigger bone". Whenever someone is eager to report on what was discussed about you by a third party, you should always ask what he/she contributed to the discussion him/herself...and in every instance (without fail) his/her part in the discussion contributes to the fallout.
I understand you are going through a trying time right now, but, you really should get out of your own backside and see the real world for what it is. You have put yourself so high on a pedestal Im not surprised you have fallen off it.. All through the show you talk about what you have, or rather what your husband has and how you have helped your friends. Well joy for you, people give everyday who have a lot less to give than you and they dont feel the need to crow about it. You say the other women are jealous of you, well I guess you conceite holds no bounds. One more thing dont refer to the homeless bag lady in the steet reach out to her and offer a helping hand now that really would be helping someone.
camille, while the camera does not catch everything the parts that it does catch is truly damaging to you as a person. That's all I have to say.
Did you really have to stoop to name calling. You were hurt by Kyle's action and then engaged in the same behavior. Also the whole pecking order comment was so crude. Do you really believe we have a caste system in the US and your husband in at the top of it? For someone who considers herself a lady--that was crass.
First, you were her host - you should have graciously accepted her apology and moved on. Secondly, it made no sense for you to rehass the whole thing at dinner in front of all of the other women, you should have waited until you returned from New York and then spoke to Kyle if you still had some unresolved issues. Third, the whole "pecking order" nonsense made you look riduculous! You came off as the sort of Beverly Hills celebrity wife everyone hates. I hope that you and Kyle truly have moved past this and that given your current circumstances you can find a way to be more gracious to others. As you see from the poles and the lack of comments to your blog - this show is not making you look good.
Camille, If being told you're "insecure" upsets you so much I wonder what a Real insult would do to you! Most people would let that fly by them as it's not really a "mean" comment. Obviously you're use to having things your own way and have never known real heartship. You are painful to watch when you make wierd comments and think you're always One Up on the other ladies.
Camille; Regardless of how you spin your words, actions and attitudes towards the other housewives, it is clear that you have a problem with other women. Whether you feel you're in competition with them, better than them or feel inferior to them, I believe it is something you should explore with a therapist. You made some sort comment on the last episode that I cannot quote exactly, but it was something to the effect that you feel as if women should celebrate each other and lift each other up instead of bringing each other down. Actions speak louder than words, and your actions (and even some of your words) say just the opposite. I am wondering why someone who so clearly has issues with other women would even want to be on a show such as "RHOBH". If you joined the show for your chance to "shine", you are blowing it because people are not liking the Camille you are publicly revealing.
Camille, I think you are on the defense a little too much. When she used the word insecure, you immediately took the word out of context. She meant it as scared to call her or feel iffy about calling her not that YOU'RE insecure as a person! I think that's what happened in this argument...you seem to pick certain words out and then read into them differently than how they are being stated. You seem like a nice lady...just ease up on the constant defense. No one is out to get you and no one is judging you.
I am very concerned by this part of your blog. I know that the filming was done months ago and we are not viewing the show as it being recorded. I am a huge fan of yours and the only thing that have to say is remember this: Mya Angelou once said when people hurt you or disappoint you tell them one thing, "Thank you for showing me who you really are." I think that Kyle did this without taking the time to get to know you. I know that you can't be serious about the comment listed below:
"The truth is that as time has gone by, I have come to really enjoy Kyle. We have had a few ups and downs over this season. Everyone is going to have an opinion. My personal thoughts are that I like Kyle."
I really hope to see a shift. Mostly in you, not Kyle. All that happened was you used the word "Shy" and she heard "insecure" which when you commented she did not get hung up on the word "insecure" you did. Either way, I think it would be in your best interest to drop this whole "women are jealous of me" concept and plug in another concept of learning how to relate to your own gender instead. Kyle is a beautiful woman with an incredible husband and appears to be extremely happy with her life. There is nothing "there" to be "jealous" of. I think as a woman, you might want to also drop this whole concept of the 'pecking order" it makes you sound like a total snob-those things are taking away from your beauty in a pretty big way....so, just a suggestion...the lesson may be with you....
Maybe, Camille, instead of apologizing for what you say after the fact, you should consider what you are going to say before you say it. You have a "classist" mentality and I don't understand where that comes from, since your station in life is only due to your husband's achievements, not yours. Do you think more people will flock to your corner when all you do is put others down? Not likely. And hello, Nick is married, in case you hadn't heard. How disrespectful to his wife....
I understand why you felt and acted the way you did. Your intuition was right on, but for the wrong person!
I have had these feelings myself, been on guard for apparently no reason, and then suddenly, the truth is finally revealed.
Your instincts and intuition were right on! Things were going on behind your back!
As the hostess in New York, any issues you had with Kyle should have been addressed without the other women being present. From your snide comments however, you really seemed to be thriving on the tense atmosphere you created. As someone who is familiar with show business, I thought you would have shown some restraint and class on your solo commentaries. The scene last night between Kelsy & you in the dressing room after the show spoke volumes on the distance that was evident in your marriage. It was very uncomfortable to watch.
Thank goodness for your sake that the camera's do not catch every moment in your life. From what we the viewers have been privy to so far, you need to eat more than one piece of humble pie!!!!
I have been watching the housewives for years, and I have been profoundly irritated by a few of the women. But I have never been this motivated to write my opinion. First let me state that it has been obvious since episode one that you are a very insecure person. In your opening statement, “its time for me to step out of my husbands shadow”, that alone is a huge representation of self doubt. I feel from watching you a few times, you enjoy playing the victim role, and exaggerating to others what someone has said to you or about you. You want to hear, that women are jealous of you, which it probably the furthest from the truth. Kyle is a beautiful confident woman, and it shows. By you saying that she is jealous, is just a further representation of your insecurities. Shame on you for downing Kyle’s husband. Comparing him to Kelsey on a “pecking list” is such a classless statement. I hope that you have found some enlightenment from this show, and see yourself for who you really are. I hope you can see your insecurities through this show, and become a better person because of it. If not you will continue to go through friends your whole life.