This week, there was big trouble in the Big Apple. As we departed for NYC, it was obvious that the conflict from Vegas wasn’t going to disappear. I found it odd that while waiting in the airport, Kim, who had begun avoiding me in Sacramento, suddenly wanted to engage in dialogue regarding the disagreement Camille and Kyle in Vegas. Kim was the only housewife (other than Kyle and Camille) who witnessed the conversation in Vegas. Why was she asking me about the altercation and asking my opinion on something I had no knowledge of?
I had never been around Camille and Kelsey together and therefore, I had no frame of reference for how she felt in relation to his celebrity status. I was suspicious of Kim's questioning to say the least. Once we arrived in the Big Apple, I was hoping the discussion that occurred behind closed doors in my suite would be enough to put the issue to rest.
But, the magic word "insecure" seemed to be our Achilles' heel. As Camille and I were freshening up after our long flight to NYC, I told her how odd I found Kim's questioning of me in the airport. As soon as I said Kim had asked me if she was "insecure," things went south. Unbeknownst to me, this was the last word Camille heard from Kyle before the ladies left my room.
What I didn't expect was what happened next! Camille hurried downstairs and I followed. When she reached Kyle, she made it clear that she did not want to be referred to as "insecure." That was the beginning of the end for episode 5. We just couldn't seem to get the wheels back on the bus. We were all exhausted (it was approximately 1 am) and rational communication wasn't at the top of the list.
Sitting at the table while Kyle and Camille argued was really heartbreaking.
When I watched the episode, I was hoping it would feel different--I was wrong. Kyle and Camille each felt so strongly in their position on the matter that a truce was the only answer, and someone needed to waive the white flag. In my opinion, the one sitting between them and the only one who heard the initial altercation should have been the one to mediate and stop the madness.
Stay tuned next week to see if she does the right thing.
I was hoping you would own up to your part in this a little bit more; rather than laying the blame on Kim. dissapointing.
Thanks fo radmitting that it could have been you that said or started something because that's what I felt while watching you and Camille in the room and them as soon as you guys came downstairs, FIREWORKS!!!
I feel Camille had every right to get defensive because Kyle did say to her to not be insecure. That's a strong word to use in my opinion.
Anyway, you gals continue to be FIERCE!!! Loved the scene of you all walking through the airport in Stiletto's. I am a shoe-nista myself!
Kim seems to be the one holding the hot potato now! But it is apparent that you will defend yourself when this gets ugly.
Aha, so you were the trouble-maker! As you got ready for dinner, you should have said to Camille, I'm so glad things are resolved. After that, zip it.
Kim seems to be the definition of insecure and she seems to be afraid of or in awe of Kyle. I don't know how you believed she could mediate. Camille seems to be jealous of Kelsey's success and wants everybody to buy her story that he would be lying in a gutter if not for her. Camille was looking for a reason to go off on Kyle.
AHA I thought you had something to do with the truce being called off. You and Lisa are so different Lisa tried to keep the peace and encouraged them to make up yet your gossiping fueled the fires. You have got some issues.
Taylor - You are a queen. It is heartbreaking for me to see all of this happening and the backlash Camille is getting.I will not say anything bad about Kyle, but I feel for Camille. Thank you for being a voice of reason and boldly stating your point of view. People like you are becoming more and more rare.
By the way, your daughter's birthday party was lovely and your daughter's response was real. Kids will scream and shout at an event where they are supposed to be quiet and remain silent when you want them to scream and shout. Your husband is a gem, he's definitely a man's man, but hey, at least he let's you be you. You have a very normal marriage, child and life in an extraordinary environment and you handle it like a true queen. My regards and respect go out to you!
I just wish you or Lisa would have spoken up and told Camille to drop it. If Kim had said anything, it wouldn't have seemed objective since Kyle is her sister. However, if you or Lisa had said something, it may have shut Camille up, which sorely needed to be done.
Taylor, Thanks for providing your insight about the Kyle-Camille feud. Wow, that is so bizarre that upon just hearing the word 'insecure', Camille could become so emotionally unhinged that she ran downstairs. Poor you! You didnt even have the slightest clue that the "i" word would trigger such and extreme reaction in Camille. . . Maybe it's necessary to be very careful around Camille because otherwise, those "wheels" cant be put back "on the bus"??? Take care Beautiful! Aloha808
Please stop being messy. As I was watching the show last night, I knew you said something to Camille to set her off. Why did you act so surprised that she'd confront Kyle like she did??
And yes, if you were any type of friend, you'd know Camille is very insecure about her marriage (and rightly so, consider what's transpired since you guys finished taping). Since when did asking perfectly innocent questions turn into an interrogation? Haven't you asked people about their plans?
You know Taylor, I can appreciate you wanting to be neutral but you can't honestly say Camille was in the right in any way. She came off like a complete insecure head case! Only someone as insecure and inmature as she would put so much weight on what Kyle said. A good friend would pull her aside and tell her she over reacted to say the least and is looking like a crazy fool. No wonder she is single!
It's very obvious that you don't like Kim. I also wondered if you did say something to Camille that may have fueled the fire and it appears you did. I hope that you don't end up being the backstabber of the group. There are plenty of story lines in your life which would be of interest of people rather than creating drama between yourself and Kim. You have more to offer the show than instigating arguments.
"Secure" or "insecure" may indeed be the buzz words on this last episode. But, frankly, based on how the Beverly Hills show began, I think it is fair to say Camille has been insecure about a good many things. She gives that vibe by her constantly reminding everyone that "she is her own person", and has clearly had difficulty living in Kelsey Grammar's shadow. there is nothing Kyle could do or say that would ever be passed over by Camille. She wants to be bigger and better than someone, and since it's not Kelsey, she has picked Kyle as the one to suffer from her insecurities. Camille won't let go....she just won't let go of the March break question. Big deal. Kyle asked you about your plans for March break. Camille will drag that around for ages, I'm sure. But you should talk more about yourself in the blog. You devoted your space to Camille!!, albeit it is clear she is driving the emotions on RHOBH.
Why did you even tell Camille about Kim questioning you at the airport and using the word "insecure"?
Maybe just maybe Kim realized how she acted at the basketball game and wanted to give it a try and this was a way to try with you. True you didn't hear the actual conversation but try to be a little more perceptive. Kim's actions at the game were based on insecurity. She was putting up a huge wall because she was expecting to get hurt. You didn't hurt her and she probably realized she needed to try to change. Now I could be wrong because based on the previews it looks like you both get into it later. Just Try to be the bigger person and see beyond the obvious. I really think you're one of the nicest and sincerest ladies on the show and believe you can rise above the drama.
I don't think you need to feel bad or guilty about causing the fight. It's clear from how Camille took the conversation that we all saw where Kyle tried to clear the air and twisted it into something else, that she doesn't need anyone's help to create a drama. She said she was shy and felt like an outsider. Kyle reassured her that everyone loved her and there was no need to feel insecure. She transformed that into a personal attack. That takes talent and a real penchant for being able to twist and manipulate what people say. To be that good at taking a kind expression of comfort into a personal affront requires lots of practice. Besides, you saw her twist the situation of her mother having cancer into one that has her mother comforting her!!! Only a master manipulator could achieve that. You have nothing to feel bad about.
You really expect us to believe you didn't know you were stirring the pot? Please. Of course you knew it, and you did it intentionally. Otherwise, why would you share your private conversation at all?
Taylor, thanks for the insight into the initial disagreement. Up until your blog, I had no idea that Kim actually witnessed the conversation between Kyle and Camille. Next weeks episode should be interesting!
Frankly, I think you helped instigate this issue further. Don't blame Kim when clearly you added fuel to the fire. Just because Kim was talking to you about it, doesn't mean she did anything wrong. If you truly didn't want to be involved you could've said, I wasn't there and this is none of my business. But you didn't. Then you threw out your "innocent" comment about insecurity that then inflamed that nutcase Camille. Look in the mirror sweety, and take some of the blame for the evening going south.
WHAT! No one has posted a blog for you? Well I will be the first! I think you are adorable and genuine. You & Kyle are my favorites. You just seem like such a sweet person. I does appear though that your husband does not truly appreciate you though. When you made the comment about him possibly leaving you for a younger woman it broke my heart. Don't you know that you seem beautiful inside & out! If your husband did that to you then he certainly doesn't deserve you. You deserve to be appreciated!!!! Girl, get strong & have more confidence! Your husband won't even know what hit him!!!!
Taylor you're a drama queen. You may not have collective guilt for what happened but you sure do have collective responsibility for what happened. You knew that your conversation with Kim would strike a cord and so you threw it. You were upset and still are that Kim didn't clique with you and you had to make it a point. Not excusing Camille or Kyle's action. But shame on you for instigating it and acting like you didn't even know about it. And perhaps Kim wanted to engage with you more because she was making more of an effort to make friends at Kyle's suggestions. You seem to do a great job of giving some but not others the benefit of the doubt.
"take you out back and pull some oklahoma on your ass"
That was EPIC!!! Taylor (SH) that was great stuff!! Go Chica!
So you are the one who stirred the pot!! What a big mistake- you act so innocent, but you made sure Camille would be angry. Why don't you just stay out of it? What good could possibly come from telling Camille about Kim @ the airport?
Sounds to me like you stirred the pot with Camille after the other women left and couldn't let sleeping dogs lie. Curious as to what your agenda is. Do you have a sister? If you did you would understand that Kim was upset for Kyle. She was trying to fill you in on what happened and get another perspective from you. Obviously, it was going to be discussed over the weekend. How sad that you couldn't be objective and chose to add fuel to the fire. Watch out Kim...someone is after you.
Russell is creepy...make plans for your future as you are a very nice person and he does not deserve nor appreciate you...Do not throw your pearls to the swines...
I guess I shouldn't be, but I am shocked. You say you were hoping that the behind doors discussion would put the issue to rest, but then as soon as Kyle is gone, YOU stir the pot again with Camille by bringing up your airport conversation with Kim. YOU are the instigator here! Then you sit back and point fingers at others. That's disgusting. Thanks for at least sharing this with us so we all understand who the real troublemaker is. You were good, too. I had not guessed it was you until you outed yourself. Pathetic.
Why are you blaming Kim?? You're the one who went behind her back and told Camille everything she said---your gossiping made everything worse. Obviously Kim won't be able to trust you again. In Las Vegas you complained that Kim wouldn't talk to you, now you're complaining that she is talking to you. I'm disappointed.
It was not your place to report. It is obvious that 1-you played a part in the conflict and 2-the ladies found out, which is why your are confessing now in anticipation. Of all the housewives, you are the one who has the most in common with camille. The two of you depending on your husbands (hers is gone, yours at some point in the future) for income. You are decent looking and you must be smart... why put your life on hold in exchange for what? some Hermes bag?
Taylor, try to be more forgiving of Kim. She is insecure. I am with you about the dog. Men seem to get the dogs for the kids, but they forget that the kids are gone most of the day and the wife has to do the taking care of the dog. It do overshadow the beautiful present and party that you had for your beautiful daughter.
No one needs to mediate two adult women, Kyle and Camille need to work it out for themselves. I think you should stop taking jabs at Kim, she was just trying to have a conversation with you at the airport.
Taylor you are the confusing one on the show, at least to me. Why would you say something to Camille about a comment Kyle's sister made?? That sounds like you may have been trying to start something...Your relationship with your husband is also very distracting. You two either love each other or you don't. To be so submissive and constantly worry that he is going to leave you for a younger woman seems like a ridiculous way to live. Could money really be that important? If so why don't you go out and make it on your own, you don't need a man for that!
After watching the show do you think that Camille just blew the insecure word out of proportion? I thought her apology was sincere and i certainly do believe that Camille chooses to hear what she wants to hear.
Taylor, I, think that you like to stir the pot You come across like you wanted something to happen and it did thanks to you.l
Soooo, your blog explains why Camille did a complete 360. Sounds like you instigated the whole blow up when you told Camille about your conversation with Kim right after her and Kyle finally made peace. How nice of you.
I loved the barbie necklaces you bought for your daughters birthday. What was the name of the jewelers?
Hi Tayler, I guess Kim wanted to open up to you by using the topic of "insecure" issue of Camille. Girls do this often. I don't think Kim tried to do anything manipulative, but wanted to bond with you since she,probably,felt more comfortable talking to you. I think you did the same thing with Camille. You might wanted to bond with Camille by using the topic with her perhaps?
Drama like this happens all the time between any girls. Hope you don't get stressed out about it. I'm sure you can laugh about this drama already. Anyway, I really enjoy this show!! Take care!
Your "Oklahoma" comment was the highlight of my night, I giggled myself to sleep. I love that you are a very girly lady, but have no problem putting someone in their place. Can't wait for next week!
Kim heard the conversation between Kyle and Camile? I think that if Kyle had not made the comment, then Kim would have stood up for Kyle. Because she was silent, maybe Kyle did make the comment. Just saying.
That's interesting. Well now that you told us that you were the one that started the "fight" indirectly.. I think that was VERY gossipy of you. Kim, of corse, was probably trying to make small talk with you at the air port and there was no malice in Kim's small talk. You should have brushed it off, and considered it Kim's awkward attempt to try to converse with you because obviously she is not the best communicator and she's not very articulate. Why would you find it suspicious? Even if Kim was trying to be rude and gossip about Camille, which I don't think she was doing, why would you tell Camille? Obviously Camille is not going to like anyone talking behind her back saying she's "insecure", so you should not have told her what Kim said. Maybe you're just as random as Kim is for bringing up useless things to ramble about for small talk? lol Although I guess a fight was inevitable between them, something differently probably would have came up. But any-who see you next week! I can't wait to see what happens! p.s. I really hope ya'll get along and solve your issues!!
It honestly now makes sense after reading your blog why the fight with Camilly and Kyle happened AGAIN once downstairs at the bar. You seem to have stirred the pot, and although your making it seem like kim had a part in it to, I feel you were the main accomplice to this issue and Camilles outburst, home Kyle read your blog so she can now understand where that complete 360 came from.
You should tell all the ladies what you have just admitted in your blog - that you may have instigated the flare up by gossiping about Kim. The video shows clearly that Kim was just making conversation with you at the airport. Why did you even put any importance to Kim's attempt at small talk while passing the time in the airport?