Taylor Armstrong

Taylor explains she might have uttered the magic word that began the dinner fight.

on Nov 12, 20100

This week, there was big trouble in the Big Apple. As we departed for NYC, it was obvious that the conflict from Vegas wasn’t going to disappear. I found it odd that while waiting in the airport, Kim, who had begun avoiding me in Sacramento, suddenly wanted to engage in dialogue regarding the disagreement Camille and Kyle in Vegas. Kim was the only housewife (other than Kyle and Camille) who witnessed the conversation in Vegas. Why was she asking me about the altercation and asking my opinion on something I had no knowledge of?

I had never been around Camille and Kelsey together and therefore, I had no frame of reference for how she felt in relation to his celebrity status. I was suspicious of Kim's questioning to say the least. Once we arrived in the Big Apple, I was hoping the discussion that occurred behind closed doors in my suite would be enough to put the issue to rest.

But, the magic word "insecure" seemed to be our Achilles' heel. As Camille and I were freshening up after our long flight to NYC, I told her how odd I found Kim's questioning of me in the airport. As soon as I said Kim had asked me if she was "insecure," things went south. Unbeknownst to me, this was the last word Camille heard from Kyle before the ladies left my room.

What I didn't expect was what happened next! Camille hurried downstairs and I followed. When she reached Kyle, she made it clear that she did not want to be referred to as "insecure." That was the beginning of the end for episode 5. We just couldn't seem to get the wheels back on the bus. We were all exhausted (it was approximately 1 am) and rational communication wasn't at the top of the list.

Sitting at the table while Kyle and Camille argued was really heartbreaking.

When I watched the episode, I was hoping it would feel different--I was wrong. Kyle and Camille each felt so strongly in their position on the matter that a truce was the only answer, and someone needed to waive the white flag. In my opinion, the one sitting between them and the only one who heard the initial altercation should have been the one to mediate and stop the madness.

Stay tuned next week to see if she does the right thing.

96 comments
trh
trh

I was hoping you would own up to your part in this a little bit more; rather than laying the blame on Kim. dissapointing.

Barb Riordan
Barb Riordan

Maria is right about Taylor. On the reunion show she tried very hard to explain her comments "away" to Andy but looked like a child who just got caught with their hands in ther cookie jar. She seems to be an instigator and a liar. I don't think her Housewives image is going to help her foundation either! She might consider not coming back on the show. I, like many, could do without her.

Frustrated Viewer
Frustrated Viewer

Maria 89- Exacty Right!! Kim was simply clarilfying -in question form- what Taylor had just said! Liked Taylor until this . . . but she is LYING-and not only by omission! Hard to watch. Sharp Lisa was only one who recognized truth. Then, Taylor started on Kim at her own birthday party! Does Taylor not realize the scene is in one take and viewers can see who said what?!!?? First time I've EVER commented in a forum like this, but Kim was not the cause- Taylor just spoke louder and faster, shutting Kim down whenever she tried to defend herself.

MzG1968
MzG1968

Taylor,

I thought from the start you and Kyle would be my favorites...boy was I wrong. I really dislike "mean girls" and after watching you and Kyle kick on Kim all season I now rank you and Kyle right at the bottom along with Camille. After reading through the comments on the blogs I can see I'm not the only one who sees it this way. I sure hope no one ever treats your daughter as you do Kim. Just remember, what goes around comes around. Hopefully the cameras are still rolling so maybe we can see Karma come back and bite you and Kyle for your treatment of Kim.

CNM
CNM

I strongly believe you played a part in that fiasco . why go say anything to Camille when everything had been put to rest? not tomention you seemed to agree witth KIM at the time ...

elliemay
elliemay

I am with Lisa? It's hard to believe that you are the one that had to chase your husband. It seems it would be the other way around and he would be kissing the ground you walk on daily. Camille loves drama. Who cares about the insecurity comment. We are all that way at times unless that person is a narcissist. Which I believe she fits the bill. She made way to big of deal about it.

amyk
amyk

If I were Kim, I would keep you at arms length. Be nice. She seems intimidated....don't use that to your advantage.

Momma Bear
Momma Bear

Well Taylor seems to me if you would not have mentioned your conversation with Kim this whole insecure thing would not have even been an issue in the first place so own up.

Oye!
Oye!

OMGoodness,

You are the one that said she was insecure, hello! I hope you watched tonights episode because it show the conversation you had with Kim, when you said that to her and then lied about it later.

I hope you right your oh so wrong in this because I really liked you until then.

ChiTownDiva
ChiTownDiva

Taylor that was very fake of you! I thought you would be one of my favorites but not anymore. Its funny that you want to "Go Oklahoma" (LAME!) on Kim but you have NO control of your household! (husband or daughter!) Put some of that "Oklahoma" to better use!

OAN: When did Oklahoma become a place to fear???

sLCT
sLCT

Especially when you where the FIRST one to utter those words. Kim just followed what you said first about Camille being insecure

BadMammerJammer
BadMammerJammer

The term is used to indicate "i'm going to put all my training and finesse aside and basically use my baser tools, i.e kick your a$$". Dina said it on the RHONJ, she was going to "get her brooklyn on", I generally say " I'm going straight-up-hood on you", meaning you are getting a beat-down. And now that you've been educated you can say "I'm going to go NewYork on you"...Peace!!

Mischia
Mischia

My 3 year old daughter is in love with Barbie! Please tell me where I can find the Barbie necklace? A website or something would be great!

mollymartini
mollymartini

Taylor, you said your husband "drives the bus" in your relationship...get on another bus. You are way too smart and beautiful to stay in a relationship that doesnt make you happy!!!

Greenee
Greenee

Oklahoma and Taylor deserve each other.

Viewer36970
Viewer36970

Cut Kim some slack. As I see it, she's had a tough life and may be slightly intimidated by the wealth you and other housewives have. It's pretty clear she isn't a social butterfly and doesn't warm up to people immediately.

Seems as if you are on the "all about me" and/or "insecure" side of the fence.

It's like you are picking on the weak one of the bunch merely because you can.

KymmieNY
KymmieNY

I've never heard anybody say, "I'm going to go Oklahoma on you"...wow!! I never realized Oklahoma was tough??!!!

KERINViewer
KERINViewer

If Camille took such offense to being told not to be so insecure, why didn't she say it when she & Kyle were behind closed doors in private? NO, she had to have an audience! You don't invite someone half-way across the country & start a fight w/them! No hostess of the year for Camille!! Camille could have waited to get back home & address the issue. You shouldn't have poened your mouth on the subject. Everyone would have had fun in New York if not for you, you made the other 3 ladies feel so awkward & it was so uncalled for!

Greenee
Greenee

Vee Lu, yes! Couldn't agree more.

suzymagnolya
suzymagnolya

SHE DOESN'T SAY IT! That's the point. Camille heard something in her crazy head that no one said.

TeamKYLE!!!!

Vee Lu
Vee Lu

Just like I thought..............you stirred the pot. I hate people that throw rocks and then hide their hands. When Camille came back to that table 20 minutes later looking like a heavy weight fighter, I knew it was on. You shouldn't have said anything and let that issue fizzle out. The ladies were finally at a good place and made peace only to have you instigate another fight. I can fully understand why Kyle was so upset. Once you've settled an issue, think everything is fine and then somebody ambushes you, it's unnerving and puts you in a bad place. Perhaps if you had put yourself in these ladies stilettos you would have kept your mouth closed.

AlexainCali
AlexainCali

Hmm....you are MESSY! You kind of remind me of Lisa from RHOA when she ran her mouth in the limo about NeNe singing about Kim to Sheree...hella messy then you want to act all innocent...shame.

Viewer in AR
Viewer in AR

True about the dog in that respect but... Taylor seems to want to give her daughter everything she wants but it seems like that only falls into the category of What Taylor Wants!! Every child especially little girls want a dog!! The party, diamond necklace, etc. were all so VERY over the top but the daughter loved "the puppy" after the party was over. She also will have the puppy a whole lot longer HOPEFULLY than she will remember that ridiculous party. Of course, it now seems Taylor has taken to carrying the puppy with her everywhere anyway according to the last episode...

kristin m.
kristin m.

The jeweler is Alan Friedman....I liked the necklaces too....so original! I especially liked the cognac diamonds on the pink gold Barbie head! What a lucky little girl, huh?!

Disgusted in Kenosha
Disgusted in Kenosha

Please if you cannot say something nice go home and do what your hubby tells you to do. Leave Kim, alone! You are involved in this.

Greenee
Greenee

Going Oklahoma? Not original and not funny. She stole the line from Sheree. Taylor has yet to do one interesting or original thing. Maybe one of these episodes her face will move.

lisa76
lisa76

Where can i find the "interrogation"? about HI? I 've been watching the clips but can't find where Kyle actually says that to Camille.

lisa76
lisa76

I agree! I heard it on the preview...haven't seen the next episode yet (that's you darned football season)! but I laughed out loud and had to replay that OK comment! Hilarious!!!! hahahaha...

zoeonna
zoeonna

NOK! You are spot on.

TheresaSJ
TheresaSJ

Taylor!!! KellyAnn is right on it!!! Taylor you should of stayed out of it! There was a million and one things to talk about. For heaven's sake you are in NYC-the city that never sleeps!!!!!

Savannah Nichole
Savannah Nichole

KellyAnn, you read my mind and just did all the typing I agree with you 100% and couldnt have said it any better.. Great post and Thank You..

Jade36
Jade36

Tay!!! That Oklahoma comment made me laugh out loud! That was BA..NAN As! Can you explain in detail what the Oklahoma on your AZZ entails?

Just too funny!!!

FTWTX
FTWTX

Agree. How nice.

FTWTX
FTWTX

Where is Kim's blog??? Strange how all these women blog about her but she never posts a blog herself.

A-ha!
A-ha!

How funny that you're willing to put Kim on the spot by asking viewers to tune in to see if she does the right thing when you yourself waited months after filming and for this episode to run to let viewers (& most likely the women themselves) know that you were the one who instigated the fight. Honestly, you seem only true to Adrienne and I think that's probably because you feel you have the most to gain from being seen with someone like her. Tsk Tsk TayTay - you are the pot calling the kettle (Kim) black!

a fan321
a fan321

reply to KellyAnn, lol youre funny!

Taylorgirl
Taylorgirl

Taylor, That Oklahoma comment was the best thing I've heard on any Housewives' show! So funny and soooo not Beverly Hills! You are my favorite and hope to see more of you as the shows go on. A fan.

KellyAnn
KellyAnn

Taylor -- of all the million things to talk about to pass the time with Camille, you chose to throw another bomb about the "fight". Gee, got any other great ideas? Now, Camille (who is terribly insecure) knows that YOU'VE been talking to others behind her back, and had the word insecure thrown at her. Here's a suggestion: Why not talk about how excited you are to see the play? What's the plan for tomorrow, etc....I would have steered clear of the mess that had just been cleaned up -- INSTEAD, you breezed right past all other possible topics of polite conversation and dragged it back off the shelf to make another mess. My guess is you wanted to trash Kim some more. After rebuffing her attempt at conversation (which you could have redirected to another topic and STILL made headway into having a relationship with her -- after all, that's what you complained about before in Sacramento -- getting all this? Too much for your shallow brain?) Oh, and don't ask Camille about Hawaii -- she's touchy about that, too.

rolypoly
rolypoly

i feel the same way especially since i am from Oklahoma also.

rolypoly
rolypoly

I am an okie also so i love to watch someone that comes from the same state and makes it to television.

maria89
maria89

At the airport--YOU said to Kim that Camille was feeling insignificant--and she replied--"is she feeling insecure". She didn't actually say that Camille was insecure, so for you to go behind her back and tell Camille that Kim was saying she was insecure was very immature. YOU caused alot of problems, and instead of using excuses and blaming Kim, perhaps you should just acknowlege your role in this fight.

Ablolu
Ablolu

What you said to Camille was wrong....you knew it was wrong when you said it. You disappointed me. Hope things turn around.

interesting
interesting

Taylor,

I think that Kim was trying to be friendly with you at the airport. She may just be starting to be more comfortable around the group. She and Kyle are very close and have probably discussed the situation among themselves especially since she witnessed it. So they probably also shared the word insecure in their conversations together or, but that doesn't mean anything. You also say that Kim should have mediated the disagreement between the two, but she was in no place to do so because Kyle is her sister and that is a bias (and you were not in a place to mediate either, clearly). You should have never said anything to Camille about Kim's comment that was not meant to be for Camille's ears. You caused this problem, and are trying to pass it off on Kim.

a fan
a fan

You should tell all the ladies what you have just admitted in your blog - that you may have instigated the flare up by gossiping about Kim. The video shows clearly that Kim was just making conversation with you at the airport. Why did you even put any importance to Kim's attempt at small talk while passing the time in the airport?

Athemermaid
Athemermaid

It honestly now makes sense after reading your blog why the fight with Camilly and Kyle happened AGAIN once downstairs at the bar. You seem to have stirred the pot, and although your making it seem like kim had a part in it to, I feel you were the main accomplice to this issue and Camilles outburst, home Kyle read your blog so she can now understand where that complete 360 came from.

a fan321
a fan321

That's interesting. Well now that you told us that you were the one that started the "fight" indirectly.. I think that was VERY gossipy of you. Kim, of corse, was probably trying to make small talk with you at the air port and there was no malice in Kim's small talk. You should have brushed it off, and considered it Kim's awkward attempt to try to converse with you because obviously she is not the best communicator and she's not very articulate. Why would you find it suspicious? Even if Kim was trying to be rude and gossip about Camille, which I don't think she was doing, why would you tell Camille? Obviously Camille is not going to like anyone talking behind her back saying she's "insecure", so you should not have told her what Kim said. Maybe you're just as random as Kim is for bringing up useless things to ramble about for small talk? lol Although I guess a fight was inevitable between them, something differently probably would have came up. But any-who see you next week! I can't wait to see what happens! p.s. I really hope ya'll get along and solve your issues!!