Even I am a bit confused after watching this week's episode.
The miscommunication continued as Kim and I got involved in Kyle and Camille's spat. The last thing I ever wanted was more arguing between the girls and I had no idea the word "insecure" would set things off again.
While "freshening up" I was merely sharing with Camille that Kim (not Lisa!) asked me repeatedly in the airport (not on the plane!) if Camille was "insecure." I wanted to be open with Camille about the fact that I had a discussion in the airport with Kim about her so she was aware of it, and wouldn't feel as though we were talking about her behind her back should the matter arise. It was nothing more than that and there were no ill intentions. Lisa was not talking to me about Camille during the plane ride, end of story. Again, the LAST thing I ever wanted was for Camille and Kyle to start up again. I thought the issue was over, and I didn’t know Kyle had used the word "insecure" in her discussions with Camille just moments earlier. Had I known that "insecure" was such hot button, you can bet your "Oklahoma ass" I would never have mentioned the word! I am getting nervous just typing it, now I feel insecure. Insecure is defined as "subject to fears, doubts, etc." Aren't we all a little insecure at times? I am going to use the term "diffident" from now on, and hope that none of the other housewives have a Thesaurus (like I do).
Just in case you're wondering, I have absolutely no idea where the Oklahoma line came from. I suppose, frustration over Kim's refusing to get involved and stop the argument between Camille and Kyle, but her being more than willing to argue with me, and get me involved in the situation led me to say something ridiculous.
I didn’t sleep that night. Turns out, none of us slept much. I stayed awake watching reruns wondering how we got here and how to repair the damage that had been done between us. Miscommunication is toxic. I see it in relationships all the time. By the time we are adults, we have formed our frame of reference based on our personal experiences. I think we "frame" what we hear in biased ways at times based on our own fears and yes, insecurities. Miscommunication is hard to overcome because it is rooted in perception. Even when the parties involved "make up," each remains steadfast in their view of the message. Maybe we should just text each other everything, so we have a written record to reflect upon in moments when "he said, she said" or in our case "she said, she said" get the best of us.
In the end, La Cage aux Folles was amazing, BRAVO!
Until next week, xx Taylor
For more thoughts on our episodes, please follow me on Twitter @TaylorATweets
Dearest Taylor, Do not give up on Russell easily! It took me a bit to realize but he really does want to reach that "point" with you as much as you do with him(really rewatch the episodes). He's already an amazing father for 1 thing. I thought you just got the $ with him but you are lucky..there is more!...his true emotion/affection is a present in disguise that will need some extra pull to unwrap :)
It looks like Taylor is the one who loves the DRAMA! She was there when Kyle and Camille had made peace. Once the girls left, Taylor could not wait to talk about the trip knowing full well Camille would react the way she did.
So I see you're going to be the messy one huh? You shouldn't have said anything to Camille about what was discussed on the plane. Also, why did you call Adrienne bothering her about that high school mess when she was mourning her uncle? Why would Kyle be sympathetic to your issues when you were the catalyst that contributed to her husband losing the Grammers as his clients?
I am on the fence about you, on one hand I see that kind and big hearted gal. On the other I see a catty, instigating kind of person. On a side note I think Russell at the end of the day, is a good guy, just not overly experssive and socially awkward. He is not the type to show his overt affection towards you and you are going to have to accept that. Don't look over your shoulder at others and compare, just focus on the good that you do have. Trust me, everyone has something wrong in their relastionship, its the nature of the beast! I also want to say, please dont' be offended by this but you really should stop with the injections on your lips, it accentuates the width of your mouth and just looks over the top most of the time. You are an attractive woman and my hunch is you don't need that collagen or whatever it is you are doing. I hope you stay true to yourself and try to focus on the positives in your life. If Russsell is honest and loyal (which I assume he is) then hold onto him and be grateful....you have more than most!
I like you but... I think you are a very sweet person and great mom! However as a friend I guess you left your self a bit behind in my opinion when you went to that trip to NY. I just don't think it was fear what you did by going and talk behind the other girls with Camile knowing already that she is the queen of DRAMA. You mentioned what YOU and the other girls talk on the airplane and that is just not acceptable in ladies... Even more when you saw that Kyle had already given an apology and for me that was a waste what you did! So uneducated, not classy at all...
Malteses' are hypo-allergenic, I don't think that is what she is allergic to. Also, why do you make so a big deal of everything, Russell is no different than any other man. Count your blessings
Maybe you couldn't sleep because of your behavior. Truly you did agree she was insecure and your only aim was to save your Oklahoma ass! Had you not said anything I believe there would have been no trouble and I think you owe the girls an apology for talking behind their backs? You had already been upset with Kim, so interesting that you should Kim was questioning you? Hmm. Not nice Taylor and you could have avoided the whole thing. Once that door closed and the women left. I wondered. You let me down Taylor.
She did say that, and yes there was no reason for her to bring up anything from the airport. She covered HER Oklahoma ass, but let everyone else be in the hot seat. What would make you even say such a thing? After it was supposedly over. I am sure had you not said anything regarding this, that dinner would have went just fine and it would have been over. Shame on you Taylor. You do owe some apologies.
If you wanted to let Camile know that you talked about her you could have said just that, but you didn't. You brought Kim's name into it, and although she thought it was Lisa, there was no good going to come of you saying anything. I just don't believe your motives. To make you look good? Hmmm. I understood from the episode that I seen that you did say she was insecure or agreed to it. I think you should have said nothing. I hope you know that for next time. You covered your Oklahoma ass!
It is possible the little girl isn't allergic to the dog but to a shampoo/hair product that is used upon the dog or maybe some other item that is in your house because of the dog (bed, toys, pee pad, etc.)? Maltese are supposed to be hypo-allergenic.
Taylor, I love watching you and your family. I think Russel loves you and really loves his daughter very much. It is clear that he has a problem emoting and has some social awkwardness. From what we have seen so far it doesn't seem like he has the wandering eye, and that he concentrates the most on work because it is very clearly defined boundaries and situations. I notice that he seems to have to program himself very carefully in social situations and he seems to be analyzing for social cues and clues from others. He strikes me as a highly intelligent and hard working person. While we as viewer's only see a small slice of your lives, from what has been shown on television he does have several of the markers of a person with Asperger's, which if he has a very mild case, it would explain why making connects would be difficult for him. Emotional rejection would be a very difficult situation as well, making disagreements so painful that he would avoid or put up a wall. But often times do know that with people who have Asperger's, their children often have allergies, and other auto-immune challenges. I hope you won't bet too discouraged with your relationship. Someone can be a best friend and very loyal even if they don't appear overly emotive. And in the beginning of a relationship, sometimes the newness of a relationship confuses our perceptions in the beginning and it is not until later that you see some of the deficits or areas of greater challenge in the other person. So long as he is not disloyal to you or your daughter (both of whom he clearly loves very much) I think you should look into this challenge of connectivity from a different perspective. I could be off base, its only been 7 episodes and he isn't overly talkative. I think you two are very cute together and try not to compare yourself too much to what other people have or how other people are with one another. Relationships are give and take. Relationship Development Intervention has basic books about this subject. Takes two to tango as they say.
I don't know what kind of dog that is but it looks like a Maltese and if it is there is no way she can be allergic to it because Maltese's are hypo-allergenic.....I should know because I am allergic to animals and I have a Maltese! Don't blame the dog just because you didn't want it......But like I said, I don't know for sure what kind of dog it is. If it is a Maltese...they are great dogs!! Whatever kind of dog it is its absolutly adorable!!
Taylor, I think you should delegate your husband in finding a solution to your new family pet. It was he, after all who brought home the adorable puppy without discussing it with you, therefore he should be the person responsible for handling all situations relating to the dog. I am disappointed with his reaction to the news that your precious daughter may be allergic to the dog. I thought he would be more concerned and regretful.
As far as last week's episode in NYC, I think it was you who may have instigated the fight between Kyle and Camille. I don't think any of the ladies were talking behind Camille's back. People talk, that's what they do. It is normal conversation to talk about people in everyday life. I don't see anything in the video footage that was hurtful to Camille during the airport scene- perhaps there were more that the viewers were not privy to. I think you could have been more diplomatic given that Camille seems very self absorbed and insecure.
Marriage is never easy.''Zizzy", you have watched a man with his family for a few minutes. You do not know Taylor's husband anymore than the rest of us bloggers. He has a high pressured job, his job is to provide for his family. He's doing a pretty good job of it. He's a very nice Dad from what the show has provided.It's better to look at the positive side of a person, than focus on the negative.
Hi Taylor,you haven't blogged your post yet on the show that just aired.While watching your segment with the heart breaking news Kennedy is Allergic to Snowball. I feel you made some very valid points. It seemed in the end, Russell was in agreement with you. I remembered our Presidents daughter is severely allergic to dogs. But since it is a tradition to have a white house dog. They decided on a dog that can be around allergic children. I'm sure you know about this story. But, I hope you and Russell think about it. Poodles, Labordoodles(that can chill outside without having to worry about. They're the easiest of dogs to train. Kennedy can hug and pet, even let it sleep on her bed,females are the easiest to train.Bison's are none shedding allergy free types as well. Their many options for Kennedy. That had to be heartbreaking for the little girl. I hope you consider another dog or already have at this point. God Bless.
Taylor, I know it must have been awful to have your daughter be allergic to the puppy. I can't even imagine. But, just so you know, dogs can be replaced...by healthier, hypo-allergenic dogs! There are sooo many of them out there, you just have to research it!!!
merely sharing ?? lool funny . If you knew that camille and kyle had a conversation and supposedly resolved things why "merely share" anything? that's what i m wondering. And did you merely share with her also that you agreed with Kim at the time lol ...i felt like you were too defensive when kim had mentionned you said something
Taylor I think your husband is full of himself and you need to find someone that will appreciate you for you.
Yes, Taylor, you definitely need to thank Kim for the bracelet. I can't understand this- you received a beautiful bracelet and never uttered a "thank you"? . Isn't it automatic on a person's part to say "thank you" when a person receives something? People always say thank you for the smallest favors, saying thank you is almost reflexive, one does not mull over whether to say it, one just says it, similar to saying "have a good day" or "how are you today?" these are common niceties one says without thinking or bothering to wait for a reply. That is why, not saying "thank you" after receiving a bracelet is a huge faux pas. I did not expect that from someone who resides in Beverly Hills.
And thank Kim for the BEAUTIFUL bracelet. She told you it was in memory of her Mom and Lisa had the grace to say thank you - too bad you and Kyle have no social skills. It did not need to come with an apology - she does not owe you one.
I think your husband is adorable, and I can see why you wanted to marry him. The nerdy, good looking guy is the best catch of all. You two make a great couple.
You are by far the most classiest of all the women, without really even trying. It just comes more naturally to you. Fun to watch the show. You are all amazing women. I have respect for all of you no matter what is said or what goes down. This is actually the first housewives show where all the ladies are easily likeable and admired. Thanks for the entertainment...
I agree with most of your post, except one thing. At the airport Taylor was playing the devil's(Camille) advocate by suggesting that perhaps Kyle had truly hurt Camille's feelings by making her feel insecure - she was just throwing to Kyle why Camille might have felt offended - she wasn't really calling Camille insecure - she was just throwing the idea of why Camille felt hurt. And when Taylor was alone with Camille she was just confessing that 'hey I've been part of a conversation about you behind your back', she wasn't tatle-telling, she was just confessing now that she assumed everything was ok. I agree about your analysis of Kim, why should she jump in to protect her aggressive sister when she didn't approve of her behaviour in the first place. Besides, Kyle walks all over her sister and discards her statements right away. And Lisa am sure you didn't want this drama, but Bravo couldn't be happier..
Taylor you did NOTHING wrong! This is not elementary school. Every one is a GROWN UP! If you can dish it, you better be able to take it.
I must say that its unfortunate that you took an opportunity to be "messy" with Camille after the ladies left the room instead of just leaving well enough alone. Then, instead of owning up to your fakeness, you pretended as if you did not know what was going on and looked like a "deer in head lights" when Camille recapped the plane ride at the dinner table. In the future...mind your business
just so you know, it has been said on Andy Cohen's show that, Kim and Adrienne are the two with the most money
Taylor, you did say Camille was insecure; rewind the DVD and watch the conversation in the airport again. With a friend like you, who needs enemies?
Be strong Oklahoma BUT NOT TOO STRONG, Okie. You scare me. I've never seen a beautiful woman do such a complete 180degree turn and threaten to get down and dirty Oklahoma on someone's ASS.. What a riot Taylor....you are something intriguing to figure out.
You own it girl! You are an extremely beautiful woman (with amazing hair) and have amazing style on the show! You need to come to Arizona and teach some of these woman who to dress and carry themselves! We love you and your style! You are a strong woman and like to see a woman who stands up for herself!
Keep on keeping it real
Fans in Arizona
At first glance when they showed the clips of you agreeing with Kim, I didn't think either of you were talking about Camille. However, for you to go back and tell Camille that Kim was talking about her was "Catty" and "Messy". I think your inital intentions were good, but seeing how Camille likes to change and twist stories ( which I gathered just from this episode) telling her only made matters worse. Word to wise...
Pick your battles and ask yourself if it would matter a week from now, if not, then it's probably not worth repeating.
At the end of the day...I really do think you owe Kim an apology because she was right to call you out. You were the only person she said the word insecure. If you would have OWNED IT and EXPLAIN your rationale for telling at THAT MOMENT, I think it would have been half way resolved.
Taylor, Taylor, Taylor,
I must say that you and Camille our my favorite. My FAVORITE line, "I'm about to take you out back and get Oklahoma on your ass." OMG! I just died laughing soo hard. My husband laughed. We rewound that 2x. You MUST get a t-shirt that says something like that. I can't stop using it and I'm not even from there. I'm sorry but when I see ladies that lunch use language like that, it just makes me like them even more. You're real Taylor. Your daughter is beautiful and you are so pretty but please no more work done.
Taylor.....I know that what I'm about to say you may consider to be offensive. I truly don't intend it to be. Please note that I am not a doctor by any means, and don't have the license to diagnose anything. I am purely going by the research that I have done concerning my own marriage. When I see footage of Russel, I often wonder if he is on the Autisic Spectrum. He is a very smart man and I do think he loves you very much, but the way his brain is wired, he may find it challenging to show love in a way that is considered normal to you. Russel seems to be a genuinely good guy but, socially, he's awkward. The way it's portrayed, he seems to prefer to work than be around others. Your brother even said the Russel is a tough egg to crack. People with ASD have a hard time taking others feelings into consideration. This might explain why he bought a dog without considering your feelings. I could be wrong about all of this, and I truly don't mean to be offensive, but it may be something to take into consideration. It might give you a better understanding of Russel, therefore it could help your marriage.
Lisa, I Love you Kelly & Adrienne, the most of all. I feel sorry for the girl that keeps saying she's from Oklahoma; and after she was whisked away from you all to go and get something to eat; she jumped up and basically say that she has to do what he let's her do. He is such an A--Hole. She needs to step back and take a WIDE look and see where everyone went for the birthday parties. They went to the person's home that had a real birthday party. I hate to say that she almost asks like Camille; the Garden Tool married to Kelcy Grammar; and i hope she don't go around telling other people that she is the one keeping him alive; and has been for the last 12 years. But LISA, YOU KELLY & ADRIENNE ARE THE REASONS I'M WATCHING THE SHOW. YOU GO GIRLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE TELL GIGI THAT I LOVE HIM AND I WANT ONE LIKE HIM. CAN YOU PLEASE TELL ME WHERE TO PURCHASE ONE OF HIS SISTER'S OR BROTHER'S?
P.S. Now I'M GOING TO TALK TO GIGI.
Do you often take people out back and "go Oklahoma" on them? Not very lady like, Taylor. A far cry from a tea party at the Houdini Estate. Hmmmmmm.
Taylor, you started this mess, you definitely owe Kyle a huge apology as well as Kim. You needed to come clean to Camille as well. Damn glad you ain't no friend of mine....Jeepers
EXACTLY Taylor should of told Camile she was talking about her too! She was the one that said insignificant which to me means the same thing as insecure!! Taylor is a high school drama! No fan here!
Taylor, it was not your place to notify Camille of any conversations that were discussed on or off the plane. Camille would have seen the episodes on TV and been able to form her own opinions. Because you instigated the argument, Kyle really never had a chance. That's the crazy thing about us women: once someone has placed that bug of negativity in our ear, as Lisa stated, things begin to take on a life of it's own. Everybody needs to own up to their part in this oversized argument and move forward. I had to watch the episode twice myself to realize once Camille asked "how was the plane ride" that you had run off at the mouth. Honestly, I feel that you owe Kyle an apology for mixing up this little witches brew. Had you not opened your mouth, none of this would have happened or perhaps the outcome would have been much different.
Beauty, Do you ever feel like you have to walk on egg shells around Camille? It would not surprise me if she was jealous of you!!! I mean, you have such style and way of carrying yourself that Camille just does not have. I'm sure it her who feels "insecure" next to you.
Darling, please dont change your vocabulary just because of Camille! If the right word is "insecure" then go ahead girl, and use it! You dont have to bedn over backwards and say "diffident" just because Camille tries to intimidate or bully you. You already express yourself perfectly and dont need to do anything differently just because Camille might 'drop some wheels off her bus' if you freely speak your mind. Be beautiful, and be strong Oklahoma!!! Love, Aloha808
I don't think Taylor was being honest with Camille. Remember, she excluded herself from the group of girls who were saying Camille is insecure. She was definitely trying to gain some brownie points with Camille. And then, she had the nerve to get angry at Kim. Taylor did this only because Kim is weak, got no social standing, and has no money. And worst, Taylor knows that Kyle, her own sister, has no respect and no affection for Kim and won't come to the aid of Kim if Kim is harassed by Taylor.
The girls who stir the pot are often the first to deny deny that they were involved, own up to what you say, especially when its on national television.
I agree with this poster's statement! I had to watch the episode twice to catch it and make sure of my now changed opinion about Kim butI think Kim is smarter than the HW give her credit for-including her sister!!!
There was really no need for you to jump on Kim. I think you were a little embarassed because you are not the quiet Ms. Sweet Oklahoma that you claim to be. You got called out. That's where that comment came from. Just own it next time. Own it.
I agree. We actually, for once saw the darling child laughing !!!!!!!!!!!! I hope little girl has many many more of these moments.