Even I am a bit confused after watching this week's episode.
The miscommunication continued as Kim and I got involved in Kyle and Camille's spat. The last thing I ever wanted was more arguing between the girls and I had no idea the word "insecure" would set things off again.
While "freshening up" I was merely sharing with Camille that Kim (not Lisa!) asked me repeatedly in the airport (not on the plane!) if Camille was "insecure." I wanted to be open with Camille about the fact that I had a discussion in the airport with Kim about her so she was aware of it, and wouldn't feel as though we were talking about her behind her back should the matter arise. It was nothing more than that and there were no ill intentions. Lisa was not talking to me about Camille during the plane ride, end of story. Again, the LAST thing I ever wanted was for Camille and Kyle to start up again. I thought the issue was over, and I didn’t know Kyle had used the word "insecure" in her discussions with Camille just moments earlier. Had I known that "insecure" was such hot button, you can bet your "Oklahoma ass" I would never have mentioned the word! I am getting nervous just typing it, now I feel insecure. Insecure is defined as "subject to fears, doubts, etc." Aren't we all a little insecure at times? I am going to use the term "diffident" from now on, and hope that none of the other housewives have a Thesaurus (like I do).
Just in case you're wondering, I have absolutely no idea where the Oklahoma line came from. I suppose, frustration over Kim's refusing to get involved and stop the argument between Camille and Kyle, but her being more than willing to argue with me, and get me involved in the situation led me to say something ridiculous.
I didn’t sleep that night. Turns out, none of us slept much. I stayed awake watching reruns wondering how we got here and how to repair the damage that had been done between us. Miscommunication is toxic. I see it in relationships all the time. By the time we are adults, we have formed our frame of reference based on our personal experiences. I think we "frame" what we hear in biased ways at times based on our own fears and yes, insecurities. Miscommunication is hard to overcome because it is rooted in perception. Even when the parties involved "make up," each remains steadfast in their view of the message. Maybe we should just text each other everything, so we have a written record to reflect upon in moments when "he said, she said" or in our case "she said, she said" get the best of us.
In the end, La Cage aux Folles was amazing, BRAVO!
Until next week, xx Taylor
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you clearly instigated that situation, and on top of that you pointed the finger at kim knowing well that it was you that brought up camille being "insecure (which she is) at the airport so kim had all the right to call you out on it....
I guess this shows you that talking about what others say is a no-no. You have had to learn that lesson on national tv with a nut named Camille Grammar. I think one reason you were so mad at Kim was because you were so frustrated with Camille. It was such a silly argument that should have not ever happened. I blame it all on Camille.
Are you kidding?..The Oklahoma ass comment was awesome!...No offense but you seem a little plastic and that comment made you human...It was hilarious! Granted I like Kim and she seems a little neurotic,maybe a lot wounded but I hated seeing you guys fight! You hit the nail on the head in your last paragraph...
You keep blaming Kim, but you know what....you are a fake person and trust me it's all going to continue to come out. You're bullying of Kim is unnecessary and truly unladylike. I know you pay A LOT of money to keep your youth, but you really need to grow up and stop acting like a child. Or more appropriately, stop being such a mean girl!
Did you not watch this episode? Because from the "flashback" it was you and not Kim that started on the "insecure" train. Also, from what Camille was saying about the plane ride much more was said by you to Camille. Take responsibility for your part in all of this.
I really think you have something to do with the second fight between Kyle and Camille. You was left in the room with her after the make up.. then "BAM".... Keep it real.
Taylor, That Oklahoma line was hilarious! For the rest of the week, my hubby and I have been using that, so "going Oklahoma" has become vogue over here.
I believe you 100% when it comes to Camille and the dreaded "i" ('insecure')word. . . (Such extreme emotional reactions like that are a bit CRAY-ZAY, no?). . .After that, do you ever feel like you have to walk on egg shells around Camille? Seems a bit like an 'insecurity' mine field over there, so just take care Honey, and be ready in case you need to find a fox hole. . . OR just go ahead and "go Oklahoma" if you need to. Nobody will blame you! Love, Aloha808
you've succeeded in dividing the blondes & brunettes... congrats. this could have been avoided had you not instigated a fall-out by bringing it back up to Camille after they had already reconciled.
I hope since this had aired you have cleared this up with everyone!! It was mostly your fault for gossiping and throwing Kim under the bus to save yourself. (I am thinking you realized camera crews were there at the airport and decided to cover your tracks by telling Camille). I don't blame Kim for not getting involved, Kyle never stands up for her...rather Kyle puts her down every chance she gets. Kim does seem a bit lonely and a bit insecure around the ladies...I wonder why???? It seems you all side with Kyle and Kim is afraid to open her mouth. I think it was really cruel of you to save yourself at the expense of the others. You never should have brought that insecure conversation up!
So your saying that Camille miss heard what you said. Hmmm! Doesn't that sounds familiar. Why don't you tell the truth though? You was kissing up to Camille and I'm sure you didn't include yourself in the story when you told her they were talking about her.
I was a bit snarky when I commented on your last blog, felt badly later (even if you don't know who the heck I am), and wanted to apologize. I don't think you meant any harm.....you were put in the same situation Kyle was put in.......Camille seems to pick something out of nothing, then explodes and seems to enjoy the drama. She thrives on it. It's her way of getting attention. You were an innocent participant.
Although I appreciate your feisty banter, I find that you have had it out for Kim since the begining. I think that its been very obvious that she is not an outgoing woman who connects easily with others. I am sure that you have not had ill intentions, but your attitude and overall lack of picking up on non-verbal clues is concerning. Furthermore, I also find that those who live in glass houses.... Your up for a lot of criticism, especially with your relationship with your husband. Maybe your immature, yet very funny, "Oklahoma ass" comment was a release for you in some way. It's apparent and sad to see that you don't have any authority at home and are controlled by your husband. Good luck with all of that!
This episode really made you look bad, what was the point of telling Camille what Kim had said? All four of you were involved in that conversation and I think its funny that you tried to wash your hand by blaming Kim. Next time just dont say anything at all.
"I was merely sharing with Camille" - you were merely stirring the pot and then after it started boiling over sat back innocently as if you had done nothing. Taylor you don't seem dumb and I'm sure you knew your comments to Camille would not diffuse the situation but in fact make it worse.
and why is it Kim's responsibility to put an end to the fight? are you and Lisa not capable of saying let agree to disagree as well!? Messy.
YOU were stirring the pot....why would you mention anything to Camille and why would you keep listening to Kyle questioning you about Camille? the above, is not the answer! come on....we all know you did it, admit it. You kept the pot stirred... why would you expect Kim to say a thing a bout her sister? why would anyone go down after one am....to "eat"....after a long flight? OH...because the producer explained that he asked everyone to go eat...cuz he knew something was going to come up....and he wanted it on tape. you might want to read whats been written the week before.... Love the show, btw....you BH wives...are FABULOUS. smiles....
Very well said, Taylor. Before I read your blog, I was little ill with you, but....your points are validated and make perfect sense.
I personally liked the Oklahoma Ass addition, I'm a business owner in Mississippi, certainly believe in conducting oneself with class and dignity, until someone crosses the line. And I think we have all seen that everybody has "a line."
We are ALL insecure. Men obsess: body, clothes, hair, cars, money. Women obsess: clothes, body, makeup, hair, money, etc. These are all insecurities we suffer from, otherwise, why in the world would we go to such lengths to be "perfect?"
Camille.....OMG. If you have any of that Oklahoma Ass in a can, please shake it up and dowse her with it. Unbelievable. Not even the best screenwriter in Hollywood could make up somebody like her. Nick.....yeah, right. Obvious to the even the dumbest viewer.
Can't wait to see more, Taylor.
BRAVO to you, Taylor.
Lady you are full of B-O-L-O-G-N-A. You did talk about insecurities.. Camilles at the airport.. you only got pissed because Kim called you out. and you wanted to seem as though you were innocent in this. You and Camille are cut from the same cloth.
Don't make me get Oklahoma on you.. My new favorite e quote...loved it! I gotta say it was sweet watching Russel with your daughter, it's nice watching dad handle what we do on a handle on a daily basis, plus it showed him more comfortable and personable than the first two episodes. I thought you handled Kim great the following day, very lady like :)
As an Oklahoman, I could only sigh when you made the "go all Oklahoma ass" comment. Thanks. Makes Oklahoma seem so classy. I was just starting to like you, too. YOU did say something in the airport to Kim, btw, so you fed into the whole "insecure" crap.
Taylor - thanks you for addressing the "insecure" comment. We will never know who really said it. However, the footage shows you and Kim specifically talking about it and to be honest it appears like you brought it up, not Kim...And yeah, what is up with the Oklahoma line. To be honest that is so ghetto and I would expect that on housewives of ATL or NJ not BH. Didn't you just host a 50K tea/bday party for your daughter and now you are ready to get into a brawl!!! That is so classy...at least we know you are proud to be from "Oklahoma"...
I, have to say watching the show last week I, thought that maybe you wanwanted to start a fight again with Camille and Kyle but after reading your blog this week I, do not think that you thought the word insecure would result in the manner that Camille reacted to it. Other wise in my opinion Camille is very insecure about herself
Hi, I was just wondering if you'll ever "own" having called/suggested that Camille was an insecure person. From the dinner fiasco episode and from the premeire episode, there had been an account of you saying, not asking, but saying that Camille was insecure. Or will you continue to deny having said such a thing and push the blame to Kim. I believe she didn't drag you into it, but had actually tried to cover herself since like you said, "I wanted to be open with Camille about the fact that I had a discussion in the airport with Kim about her so she was aware of it, and wouldn't feel as though we were talking about her behind her back should the matter arise." In my opinion you had told the truth, but left out important details, which is essentially the same as lying. So will you continue to deny your actions?
YOU REALLY ARE THE ONE WHO SAID CAMILLE WAS "INSECURE" - NOT KIM !!
KIM ASKED YOU IF CAMILLE WAS "INSECURE" & YOU ANSWERED "YEP."
Taylor, i think you planted a little bug in Camille's ear about the "insecure" comment....you were the one who brought it up in the airport according to the airing of the show and i think you could've ended all this if you had only spokened up. You played the coward and didn't say anything. Although, i don't wish any bad luck on your marriage because i have a family as well but you need to worry less about "he say,she say" and more about why you don't have a voice in your own marriage...If you think your husband is going to leave you for a younger woman...then perhaps you need to leave while you can. I really would like to see you have your own opinion and your own voice when it comes to your husband and not be so passive.
You are so wrong in so many ways. Don't feel respect for ya anymore. I'm glad we can all see your true colors.
Taylor, You are responsible for re-starting the Camille-Kyle fire. You wanted to CYA about the airport scene and get your version out and you set her off again. Own it. Not that it takes much to set her off. You and the rest of the girls were not picking up on the fact that there was trouble in paradise and that she was one fractured nerve on top of another. Add to her insecurities (yes, I will say that word) and boom!! You should monitor yourself a little more.
You really stirred the pot! Why would you have a MUTUAL discussion about whether Camille is insecure or not and then go and tell Camille that Kim thinks you are insecure. The title "Big Mouth & Pot Stirrer" really fits here.
Kim is not confrontational and for you to pin the responsibility of ending the argument on her is unfair. Who made you referee of the argument? Why would you even state that you would pull "Oklahoma ass" on her? Are you insinuating that you would get violent with her if pushed? Just leave Kim alone.
I feel you over reacted. You did comment on Camille lack of self esteem. Kim should have backed her sister if she was present when the whole thing happened.
it seemed to me that you were stirring the pot and you knew you were stirring the pot. If you were interested in staying out of the situation, you should have told Kim in the airport that it wasn't your place to say anything about this and to leave it between Kyle and Camille. But it seems you egged it on from all angles.
Taylor...I think you've been drawn into the mix by simple human nature. I don't think it abnormal to 'talk' about the incident. It's obviously made everyone is uncomfortable over the situation because the two parties are each uncomfortable themselves.
I do think that you should not have brought it up with Camille in the room after she and Kyle talked it over. It is very clear that Camille has home issues and is 'treading lightly' around her husband. If she can't lash out at him then Kyle would be an available outlet.
Well unlike these other ladies I can see why you refused to allow yourself to be pulled into this Camille-Kim mess. It was an innocent conversation about how the argument may have started, how to help end it, and how a friend may have misinterpreted what was said. It was obvious that there was not malice in your saying Camille may be a little insecure. Aren't we all insecure sometimes? You should not feel bad about anything you said or did.
What I saw at the airport, and you need to rewatch it, was Kim asked if she was insecure about the Kelsey thing and I think she was actually looking for a word to describe it and she said is she insecure and YOU said YES! She asked and you said YES. Kim didn't say she was insecure, she asked YOU if she was and you said YES! They did get that on tape, but for some reason you left that out when you told Camille. Rewatch it again Taylor and I think you will see why Kim started in on you!
Taylor you are hot, fierce, and fabulous! You are the Modern Jackie O! Sassy Kyle and Camille like to bicker, Kim seems to be in lala land and then tried to bring you into the frey! WTF! I loved how you pulled some Oklahoma Whoop-ass our of your pearly teeth and flashed some jewels while trying to keep cookoo kimberly in check! Look forward to more spice compliments of Oklahoma Taylor!
It's clear you said that to Camille, you admit you did, so why did you flip on Kim when she called you out for it??
No, Taylor only agreed with Kim that Camille is insecure, probably just to shut her up. However, Camille being so sensitive to a word that Kyle was using situationally rather than it being a defining characteristic of Camille's is pretty transparent.
I don't know why everyone is placing the blame on you, you were just trying to stay out of the situation until you came under the attack of Kim! However, her character is certainly in question anyway as she seems impervious to reason or any kind of logical thinking. I think you're great & have enjoyed watching you!
Were you a Comm major? Your "frame of reference" reference took me right back to college... I believe you didn't mean to "instigate" but I guess you've learned that in these tense situations, it would have been best to discuss what Camille was wearing to the premiere rather than perpetuating an already quite heated topic. It was odd when Kim brought you into it and I would have been upset too, but you maybe should have thought of Kim's "frame of reference" and "perspective" and the knowledge that she is very awkward socially and not have over-reacted as you did a bit. I do, however, understand where you were coming from, as I would have felt defensive as well. Would I have threatened to take her out back? Probably not ;)
You are totally to blame for that dinner table argument with Camille and Kyle. Real nice of you to just jump in and take the blame.
I think the only ones insecure on you show seem to be Kim and Kyle the "childstars" as they like to call themselves. Oh please! Enough of them already.
I guess if you don't talk about people behind their backs, you don't have to worry about saying something offensive about someone, right?
This whole issue exploded because Camille would not accept that she possibly misinterpreted what Kyle meant. She just could not accept that she was possible wrong. Any rational person would accept that it was miscommunication. All of these comments, relating this to the actions of others (Taylor/Kyle/Kim), are truly immature and really just as foolish as Camille's behaviour. It really has nothing to do with the other women at all. She should have just accepted the apology and let the drama go. Camille was the only one continuing the saga. It seems pretty clear everyone else wanted the drama to end and to have a nice time. Plus the Oklahoma ass comment was funny- people lighten up please.
I am from Oklahoma and loved the comment. I consider myself a classy person, just like yourself and could see myself if pushed like you were saying something to that effect.
Personally, I feel Camille is extremely insecure. She is used to being the center of attention, thus all the men friends she has. She has been competing with her husband Kelsey all these years for attention and obviously coming in 2nd.
She is beautiful on the outside, but that slowly fades the more you get to know her. She took a nothing remark and blew it into two huge unpleasant situations. I think she thought when she joined this show she would be the star and it's clear she's not and she knows it. She will do anything, including ruining everyone's evening to be the center of attention.
You keep on being an "Oklahoma" girl, I find it refreshing.