Before the party I was really looking forward to spending time with the girls. Brandi had wanted to get all of us together for a nice girls' night. I was excited about getting to know Brandi and her friends better. I didn't anticipate any major conflict with seeing Taylor at the party. Even though I wasn't sure how she was going to react, enough time had gone by that I thought we could bury the hatchet.
Obviously, this episode was very difficult to view. Watching Taylor get so emotional was difficult. I felt so bad for her. She was in a lot of pain, and I didn't realize at the time the severity of her situation.
That evening was especially challenging because Taylor had obviously distanced herself from me. As I saw her pain, I empathized with her because I had gone through so much pain myself over the last year. I wanted to help, but I couldn't because she put a wall between us. It hurt that she accused me of something happening with her situation at home, but harder still was seeing Taylor in that emotional state. At that point, what was I to do? Obviously I wanted to reach out to help her, but I'm being accused of causing problems in her life. I felt that she was taking a lot of her own personal frustrations out on me. Knowing that a friend is hurting is bad enough, but I was unable to reach out and help because of that wall Taylor put between us.
I think that Camille has been a true and loyal friend to Taylor and because of her lies involving her husband had to come to light and Camille was the only one of the ladies to have the heart to bring it to light. I believe that Camille did not mean to bring up the situation of her alleged abuse but as you can see there was no physical evidence to the fact that Taylor was being abused. Camille good job and maybe now that Taylor knows the truth is out she can be honest regarding her situation and put all of the lies to rest. Keep being the up standing lady that u you are Camille and can't wait to see the next epsiode of the housewives.
Ah Camille, you are fabulous, don't ever change. Your honesty, integrity & intelligence are traits that many are envious of, and it often shows.
So glad to see you are in a happier place.
Wishing you much love xx
**bravo, PLEASE publish this, you never publish any of my comments!**
camille, you were a gracious and patient friend...taylor was out of control...every episode if taylor is not the center of attnetion she soon makes herself...this is taylor's battle to fight not your...she is always justifying, blaming, excusing everyone's behavior except her own...she needs more help than you or any housewife can give her... marcis
Camillie, coming from a place where Taylor has been, I would like to help shed some light on what I feel (if I were Taylor) may have been happening.... Taylor was being hurt tremendously by someone she loved (Russell). When you said what you said, she was hurt as well. For me, when I was being hurt, I would try my hardest to avoid that person at all costs. I think if she was given the chance to heal from your hurt slowly, she would have come around. Instead she was being "forced" to reconcile with you when "others" wanted her to, not when she was ready. There is so much a person being abused has to do against their will to keep the peace that when you are being forced in other situations you tend to dig your heels in further. You already have to concede so much at home, why with friends too? Don't know if that makes sense... hope it helps though. I don't think your intentions were malicious when you spoke, nor Dedra's, but without ever being in a situation like Taylor's, you would not have known how to handle the situation.
I shouldn't worry... I don't believe there's any catalyst except the fact she's from poor background and totally out of her league..... It's attention seeking at it's highest point and it's getting ridiculous. Why does she keep attending parties?? Who goes to parties when their home life is such a mess??? You didn't.... I still smell a rat. Your friend is a v nice girl.... Yet another party disrupted and ruined by the "ever dramatic" Taylor! Chin up ducks...!!
You didn't need anybody to be by your side--aren't you an adult? To listen to you, Dedra and Elizabeth,you'd think you three were still in junior high!! Dedra and Brandi were horrible to Taylor. That woman had to go home to a husband who beats her and then to have to put up with Dedra talking about her playing the victim--excuse me?! Reality check-AGAIN-Camille! It isn't always about you. Taylor needed compassion, not confrontation. And how dare Brandi--Taylor has been one of the few housewives to stick up for her and her craziness. Shame on you, Dedra and Brandi. Try acting your age next time--
Camille, You, Dedra and Brandi were doing the best you could in unpleasant circumstances. No bad intentions were present. You are a good person doing the best you can. Dedra is a good friend who "walks the walk" when she sees a friend being treated poorly. -- THAT is a rare find! Brandi did the right thing because it was her party BUT it was not her Home, it was her responsibility to politely ask the drama to leave. Keep on doing what your doing and choose your "friends" wisely.
Camille, you are a classy lady!!!! The others could learn a lot from you. Bravo to DD for being there for you. I too hated the way Taylor spoke to you...horriblel!!!
Imagine if she spoke to you that way, how does she speak to her poor innocent child when there is a problem??? That makes me cringe.
I thought you handled the situation very well Camille. However, I thought your friend was way out of line and made a bad situation, absolutely awful. I love my best friend and will always have her back, but I would never step in the way Dee Dee did, unless my friend was in danger. You have/had a friendship with Taylor and although she was a lunatic at that party, I would imagine you knew her well enough to know you could have had a one on one conversation with her. Sorry, but I think Dee Dee came off looking like a fool and she should be embarrassed of her behavior. As for you, I definitely like the Camille I see this season.
It was very obvious that Taylor was trying to play the victim, AS ALWAYS, and decided to create a scene to draw attention to herself thinking she had nothing to lose since she had big, bad Kyle to "back her up". Kyle has either been completely manipulated by Taylor, or just wants to play into the drama by being the bad-ass alpha female. It was very junior high, the whole situation. I don't know what's going on in Taylor's personal life, but she should do something about it rather than just throw tantrums everywhere she goes. It makes it harder to feel sorry for her, if she's already doing enough of that herself.
I thought you handled yourself well.
Camille, You are a good woman. You have gone through a lot of painful times this past year, & it must be so frustrating for a friend to tell you that she is getting beaten up by her husband, & you offer to take her in, & then she act so fake about it around everyone! It is totally obvious that she is crazy upset out of fear & not being able to process things, nor see the forest through the trees. It was hard for me to hear her be so hateful to you after you offered to take her in, & then she went crazy about the fact that you repeated what she told you in front the cameras. It is hard to watch someone not get out & leave an unhealthy situation, & blame others for making life hard for them, when really her own hear & confusion is what is making her life even more difficult. You looked beautiful at the party & you acted perfectly civil & gracious! Good job after all that was going on that night! On the drive to the party you truly didn't think any drama was or should have gone down that night, how awful for you, & Brandi!
Camille, I think you handled yourself quite well given the situation. It appeared to be a tough night for all. But, I think your friend Deidre added to the situation and made things worst. I understand she is a close and very good friend and she was standing up for you, but there is a time and a place and that wasn't it. When Taylor told her she didn't want to discuss it....conversation should have been over, but DD kept coming at Taylor. To be honest I would have gone off on DD if she hadn't backed off when she told her to. You need to teach your friend how to have tact and to relax a little bit. What she did was uncalled for and with hindsight, we see that there was A LOT more to Taylor's breakdown then what you had said on camera.
I am really starting to like and respect you. Keep your head up and know that Kelsey is the one who lost. You're a winner!
Oh my.....I know exactly how Dedra felt! Been there done that. She wanted so badly to aid her friend, you. The way she went about trying to help turned out to be wrong. I'm NOT criticizing her!!!!! She didn't know the rope she was walking and had NO idea the minefield she was about to Explode!!!! Who could be prepared?.....I felt for everyone....everyone.
I do like Taylor but I believe she directed her anger at the wrong person, you. Ouchie-Wa-Wa.....what a mess. This is a situation where only lessons can be learned....Hopefully you all on the show and we your audience have learned something.
Camille~ Good for you for not lowering yourself to Taylor's level. She was out of control (and not for the first time this season) and there was nothing to be gained by speaking to her while she was in the state she was. De De was being a good friend-your lucky to be insulated with such women!
You're lucky to have such a loyal and supportive friend. Whether she went too far is debatable, but Taylor brings drama with her everywhere she goes. She blames everyone else for her problems, and she has a way of pushing any sane person to the brink. And I think Dedra stopped being conciliatory, when Taylor looked at you and yelled, "Outside!" I think that would have set anybody off and you stayed remarkably clam. I think Brandi was right to throw Taylor out. She was completely out of control and psychotic. So whether or not Dedra should have kept going, you have to admire her loyalty.
It is obvious that Taylor was a ticking bomb. It was just a matter of where and when she would explode. Watching her like that was like watching a three year old having a tantrum. I know she had a lot of problems, but this was compounded by her lacking any sort of emotional maturity beyond that of a pre-schooler. It was really disturbing to witness an adult behaving like that. For all the talk about other people's drinking problems, it is Taylor who does not do well with even the tiniest amount of alcohol. She is so skinny that it doesn't take much and she is a really ugly drunk. Your friends need to avoid alcohol around these ladies too. It is best to keep your wits and dignity about you in these social situations.
You did nothing wrong and did not pick any fights or make any snarky comments. She knew if she took out all of her frustrations on you that you would not hit her. You must be really glad that this is behind you. God bless.
Bad timing aside, you are lucky to have such a loyal friend. It's nice to see that you obviously value Dedra's friendship as much as she appears to value yours. If only we all had friends that would go to the mat for us!
Hey Camille, you are lucky to have a friend like Dedra. She obviously is very loyal and supportive. I wish you had had more airtime at the party, I always enjoy your comments and your outfit was super cute. I also wish Brandi had tossed Taylor out a lot sooner so everyone else could have had some fun.
Camille, I liked that you spoke up about the abuse. Silence only helps the abuser. I cannot stand that Taylor will not get the help and safety for herself and her daughter. Taylor has rebuffed offers from Lisa and probably others as well which makes it hard to have any sympathy for her at all. I wish she would get fired from the show. It is painful to watch such a pitiful wreck who has options and refuses help. I also wish Kyle would stop being her wing man. Taylor puts too much emotional baggage onto Kyle. And Kyle needs to let Taylor fight her own battles. Taylor and Camille need to talk over coffee--not wine. But Camille, please don't back down on the abuse issues. Taylor may thank you for it later.
You told the truth and if Taylor doesn't like hearing the truth that's her problem. You apologized for speaking out, if Taylor can't accept it that's her problem not yours. Taylor has a lot of problems created by her own behavior and now she's lashing out at anyone to blame for her own actions. She has decided to stay in a abusive relationship because she doesn't have the financial resources to leave the situation, and that's her problem not yours.
Love you Camille! I know that was probably extremely hard, I think you handled yourself well throughout all of that. I hope your situation is getting better :) To be honest, you're my favorite housewife!
Camille, you have to own what you did to Taylor. She's not my favorite housewife (I sound like Lisa), but even though you're in a Reality show, anything that is said confidence, especially something this sensitive should NEVER have come out on national T.V. Unless she wanted it too. I can't imagine her having to go home and confess to her her husband that not only did she tell you about their problems, but that you completely betrayed her. I gave Russell a lot of credit for attempting to try and fix his issues..but knowing all this was going to come out the way it did obviously more than he could handle. I'm not excusing his behavior at all. He was horribly wrong if what he was accused of us true. But you had no business telling the world.
Camille, we know Dedra was coming from a place of "peace" trying to reason and we know Taylor was coming from a place of "Outside!" and "Oklahoma on your a$$" No need to apologized viewers can figure that out.
You came out classy in that conflict and too bad that Brandi's party was ruined but yet again another tantrum of Taylor. If she was in such bad shape mentally, she should have excused herself from the show this years.
Camille, I was talking about domestic abuse the other day on twitter while watching this episode. It reminded me of when one of my best friends was thinking about getting back with her abuser, who she had jailed once before for the abuse. I begged her to not do it and that I could not support her if she did...well then it got turned on me. It was weird I was so very vocal about her not being with this man yadda yadda... I must be a lesbian...yadda yadda...It devolved and I had to lose that group of friends. I really think they don't want to face reality and those who try to make them become the enemy. Don't take it personally..like you said the only one keeping her and her child in danger was herself.
Can I just say that you're my favorite. It's so nice to see how you have blossomed into a very sweet and wise person. I only hope that if I ever go though a divorce that I will handle it with dignity like yourself. Keep it up Camille, and enjoy your life because you only get to live it once.
Camille, you have nothing to apologize for, neither does dd. I don't know why ya'll continue to feel you owe something to Taylor. She appears to be using her husbands death to further springboard herself into the mainstream. I just don't buy the abused woman angle. Neither should you. That's emotional bondage she's plying. I mean how dare anyone have any criticism of her little ol abused self, and widowed to boot. Taylor's affect from the start has been quite self-serving. Kinda Joan Crawford-ish. Maybe you see some of yourself in Taylor, but you seem to have moved on to quite a much more humble and real and soulful place.
We realize that Dedra was sticking up for you. Hopefully she has learned that you cannmot force people to resolve problems when SHE wants them to. Where she went wrong was reacting so strongly to Taylor when she said to you, "Outside." You didn't seem to have a probl;em with it when Taylor said that. You were in a calm , understanding mood and it showed. I know this happened months ago, so hopefully things are good now. Once again , I hope you are doing well and have a wonderful Christmas and a much better 2012. Love, Ann
Camille, I feel as if you are not taking some responsibility for what transpired that evening. For one, there are elements of this evening that are so similar to the last year's "Dinner Party from Hell." First, you riled up your friends into thinking that you were victim in the whole situation. You should not be concerned with Lisa believing you had words with Taylor about her interrupting folks. Second, you got your friends to riled up, that they unnecessarily aggressive with Taylor. Who cares that she made the snide remarks? You did put her business on blast for the world to see.
You've shown remarkable patience and evenhandedness this season. I'm sure the backlash last season was so frustrating that you realize that you want to portray your best self, which I think you are doing beautifully.
We could all see Dedra's intentions, but it of course wasn't working. I would guess that she would be fairly humiliated to see the episode and realize how her attempts to insist with Taylor came across so intrusive and almost bullying in tone. No doubt she'll learn the lesson that you have--that you all are dreadfully exposed and everything you do is likely to be criticized by the public. Obviously the best solution is for people to stay sober and not attempt to straighten out other people in front of the cameras.
Camille, you brought real to "reality". I saw nothing wrong with what you did, and you were big enough to apologize. I like the person you've become. I applaud you for the strength you've shown throughout your own personal trials. Stay strong and stay real!
Camille, To be honest, when you joined the show last season, I was unsure how to take you. In the beginning, I was on the fence to like you or hate you. Its seemed that what you showed on television was a phony side of you. However, as the show evolved my opinion changed and this season, I see that you transformed. In regards to Taylor, why bother at this point? Taylor baffles me and I am fed up with her antics that never seem to stop. She is a compulsive liar and when caught in a lie - she quickly blames someone else. She takes no responsibility for her own actions and a person like that is not because of her personal life, it is just who she is...period. I cannot comprehend why everyone rallies to help her, when she has no issue throwing anyone, including Kyle under the bus if it suits her needs. We all go through tragedies, abuse, cheating husbands, being left for another woman or other life surprises. But, the person we are deep down inside remains - and if we were a liar before, then we are a liar now and that is what I think of Taylor.
If Deidre and everyone left you and Taylor alone to talk, none of this would have happened. You are an adult and you aren't a wallflower. You're friends do not have to defend you. You could see Taylor was having a nervous breakdown and yet you let your friend attack her. You let Deidre do your dirty work. If people don't like Taylor as a person that's fine but at least show her some compassion and give her a little rope because of what she's going through. Yelling at someone and holding them down while they are having a breakdown is not the way to handle things nor is it being a friend. Announcing to the entire nation that she's being abused is not being a friend. I like Brandi but when she's seeing everyone attack Taylor and Taylor is breaking down like that, you don't kick her out. Way to gang up on her. You take her in a separate room away from everyone and allow her to calm down. Maybe even, I don't know, COMFORT her. Not yell at her meanly to "get out!" Is this how women treat other woman? Way to have each other's back. A little compassion people. Just a little.
Camille, you Dedra and Brandi all did the right things at the party. You- tried not to engage when she was making accusations while standing at your back. Dedra- was being the great friend that she is was trying to defend you. Brandi - As the host asked the person creating the problem to leave. Taylor and Kyle on the other hand did EVERYTHING Wrong. Taylor- Was very upset and stressed before going to the party and probably never should have gone in the first place. Kyle- Loves to stir the pot and seems to enjoy only two things this season. First- ATTENTION! ATTENTION! ATTENTION! She acts like a child that is trying to get everyone to look at her. Second-She loves to see the girls argue and fight-Just watch her face when light up when they are arguing and and lose it's spark when they make up.
She is the reason that Taylor was in that bad a shape when they got to the party When she got into the car with Taylor and saw how aprehensive Taylor was about seeing Camille, as a friend she should have calmed her down and tried to make peace prior to arriving at the party, not sung a "got your back" song with her and upped the aprehension! She then stuck her finger in Brandi's face, slapped her hand, called her a B***H and and threatened her when Brandi asked them to leave! Kyle is a trouble maker, she went after Camille last year and Camille was woman enough to forgive her, she went after her own Sister, who is fragile and has endured her abuse long enough (and stealing her portion of her mothers house) to avoid her, and now she is going after Brandi and feeding Taylors insecurities toward Camille so that she will now go after Camille.
Was SO not a fan of Camille's last season, but what a difference a year makes! I really like the strong, confident, 'tell it like it is' woman she has become!
Your right (as usual) about the whole situation being sad. I don't know how anybody could stand around and listen to the snide remarks Taylor lets fly. She's always the first to say "I don't want drama" but also the first to start with her smart ass remarks. There is absolutely nothing you could have done differently to bring peace. Taylor's problems follow her where ever she goes, and Brandi was 100% right on to ask her to leave. The best part is how well you handled it. Well done.
But really, how can anyone successfully reach out to a sociopath? You tried. The viewers are on your side because it's obvious this disturned woman has now made you her target. Keep your head up and calm, as you have. We're all behind you. And kudos to Dedra for being such a good friend!
No need to explain Dedra's behavoir, we all need friends like Dede. I love Dedra, I would much rather see her on the show than Dana or even Taylor at this point. You were a true lady in that unfortunate situation, I hope everything works out for you in your custody battle. Stay true to yourself and keep being classy and a real lady. Love you Camille...
OMG Camille, DO_NOT_APOLOGISE about Taylor. Taylor was not having any reconciliation that night because that would stop her DRAMA. She needs attention via drama, like the rest of us need air. You attract what you need, sorry but its true! ALSO, don’t apologize for Dedra. I am now a HUGE Dedra fan and I only wish you had let her completely loose on Taylor. GO DEDRA! You got this fan out here rooting for you Dedra! Dedra went even so far as (pacifying the lunatic Taylor) to say “Camille wants to apologize.” That is absolute proof that Dedra was trying to stop the feud, not accelerate it. Taylor wasn’t having that and took it as “a pass” that you were in the wrong which you were absolutely not. Taylor has drug you into this whole mess of her life, making you feel guilty about doing the RIGHT thing. As far as I’m concerned, you most likely saved her life, not put it in danger. Ya know, Taylor is really making my blood boil. The audacity to run around excusing you people on this show for doing what you did because that’s “the nature of abuse” is revolting. . Baloney! That’s the nature of a manipulator. Taylor isn’t on these blogs because we assumed she was grief stricken and just couldn’t get on here to answer for her bizarre actions. THEN, two nights ago, on The Clubhouse, there she is all primped and posing with Andy to sell her stupid book! Pulease, she could pull it together enough to get all dolled up and get to a live show to make money off of what her FAMILY has been through. She is absolutely without conscience. Never mind the fact that she has pulled you into this, made you feel guilty because you did the only normal thing any human being would do. Boo to Taylor. They need to get rid of her. It’s not OK anymore. We are done with her. GO DEDRA! I wish Bravo would hire you! You were absolutely right, I wish you had said MORE! And Brandi should have asked Taylor to leave. Taylor wasn’t even mortified when that happened; she just looked for Kyle to keep the drama going cuz the camera time was almost over. Man she can switch from jumping off balconies, to yelling at the limo driver, to ignoring the sensible woman who said ‘we are evolved’ like she was nobody because she doesn’t happen to be on a reality show. Dedra, Lisa, Camille and Brandi would be an excellent show. Take Taylor, the ridiculous sisters and Taylor and give em the boot. When did this became RealHosuewives of Trashville?
OMG .. what a difference a year can make for my comments... Camille you were a whipping board for Taylor and the pain she was living. I have never posted/said this about anyone but Dedra is welcome in my home ANYTIME. Good-true people are hard to find and she is a gem.
Camille I think you are a very kind person, you must be to inspire such loyality in your friends. You did nothing wrong and although Dedra went a bit too far she was coming from a good place. Taylor put a burden on you at a time that was trying for you and it was too much. Be proud of the way you handled yourself, you are a lady.
Hang in there, Camille. You have a lot of folks pulling for you this year.
I could write a page about my feelings for Taylor; unfortunately, they would all be negative.
Dedra did a good thing and you know what a good friend she is. I think you and Brandi will become good friends, too. Don't let the back-biting, jealous old women bring you down. You deserve happiness! Love ya!
Camille Yes- I agree, it was sad. Your friend made an attempt and perhaps should have realized a little earlier on in the mix that Taylor wasn't having it! But, you can't unring a bell.... She tried and you're right, it only escalated things (with Taylor takes VERY little). In time Taylor will realize the reality of her situation as far as her friends go. Unfortunately, right now, she can't see the trees from the forest. Her life--including her mind are truly a mess. You have grown and suffered through a lot. Taylor could definitely benefit from your strength & experiences. In time I hope she can. You've proven to be a very good friend. Warm , caring and honest. Like this Camille sooo much!
One thing is for certain - YOU have friends that stick with you through the thick! You are lucky to have such loyalty...