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When Andy asked me what was going on between Adrienne and Lisa I was extremely uncomfortable. I am friends with both of them! I think a lot of people think I am only close with Lisa, however, Mauricio and I are also close with Adrienne and Paul (as well as the rest of the ladies) In addition to that, Adrienne has been very kind to my sister Kim during a very difficult time in her life.
As Lisa and Adrienne started to get into it, I felt awful. There were many times I wanted to chime in and didn't because of the fact that they are both my friends. How could I defend one and not the other? I also know that these two women are strong and can hold their own. The people pleaser in me (not a good trait or one that I am proud of) didn't want either one of them to be upset with me. So I stayed out of it. Most of us did. This argument was a long time coming, and I had not been involved with any of their issues. However, when the day was finished, I felt bad about not speaking up at certain times.
Clearly, I would have my own battles to fight. . .
When Brandi came in we joked about her getting married in Vegas. I had teased her via text about it right after she got married and we had laughed. All was fine between Brandi and me. . .so I thought.
The drama continues next week. . .
I get that rehashing just means re-fighting but come on what did you hope to accomplish with that Bobby Fischer comment? Peace? or a soundbyte? Besides you're not exactly a slouch at this game yourself.
...I think you need more time to reflect about what you did.
You don't seem to get it yet and your new blog reflects that , Kyle
Good Luck to you ....really want to Like you
So its ok for you to say Lisa maybe preys on weak people, but she cant say you must need attention? Which is a worse thing to say? Which is more mean spritited? Your friendship with her is like playing chess with Bobby Fisher? Wow girl look in the mirror. Do Lisa a favor and stop being her "friend"
Kyle, thanks for your blog, sorry that you were put in a difficult position during the reunion show. You seem like a loyal friend... the fact that you have stuck by Taylor, even though much of public is against her, speaks volumes.
Your comment about Lisa "preying on the weak" would offend any human being, not just Lisa. You are funny, smart, and beautiful...but you are also a pit bull at times. I understand making people laugh, even with the splits, but you seemed to need an awful lot of attention this year and you were in the middle of everyone's business, stirring pots. Why is that? I would hate to have my life filmed to review my past mistakes with people each year, but you've chosen to do that. And this time, you should put your tail between your legs and apologize to the lot of them.
I am surprised that you have any real friends in that cast. All of you speak so horribly about each other. I do not think you were too nice to your sister on a public cable television show. She may have misbehaved, but you sort of instigated it. You were my favorite but now it is Camille. Lisa came off as the worst friend to you. I am surprised that you are closest to her.
You don't own anything you've done. Saying Lisa preys on the weak is a character assignation. You never had Lisa's back -- when Traylor and Russell accused Lisa of selling stories to the press and said they would sue her, you never told her. That's not a friend. Lisa had your back the entire season 1 with your disagreement with Camille (which, after having seen your two-faced ways, I'm beginning to believe Camille).
You don't know the meaning of "friend" -- and it's sad. No one believes you that you, Adrienne and Taylor didn't meet prior to the reunion to throw Lisa under the bus. If it wasn't a face-to-face then it was a conference call or thru texts.
Now that the world knows you as a mean girl...maybe Allison wasn't far off when she called you a mean girl.
Wake up, take a good hard look in the mirror, you'll see what the public sees. smh
I think Camille was right about you last seasons reunion. You are not someone I would ever want as a friend. Typically "people pleasers" are two faced. I prefer the in your face honesty of Brandi to your "laugh behind your back" smile to your face that you do. And at least Lisa apologized for hurting yours and Adriennes feelings. You just kept defending your comments instead of owning up to them. Frankly, Lisa, Camille and Brandi are the only ladies I care to know anything about anymore. The rest of you have shown your true personalities that are mean spirited and self serving.
Back track much? You do not deserve Lisa as a friend. You definitely do do the splits to get attention. Be honest Kyle..for once
Kyle, just one word: double-standard! You demand from people, what you yourself won't do! You make nasty comments to others (Lisa sprays on the weak, brandi...endless) but I dare them say you crave attention and were mean on game night, even though was true. You call out Brnadi on accusing based on hearsay, but dindt say anything when Adrienne did accusing Lisa. You claim not get in middle of fight, yet when Brandi is involved you jump head first. You claim to be Lisa's friend, yet you didn't tell her about Rusell's lawsuit (amongst other things). You mortified Brandi for her nipples on dinner night (in house amongs friends), yet you didn't say anything about Taylor's on daughters bday (in the open, full of people). And my list can go on. Negative things are based on Brandi's rumor, but behavior during season. Sad!
You were my favorite last season however I feel your true colors are coming through. I could not stand you this season! Funny how you blame Lisa for being perceived wrong on the show and her not sticking up for you. You have acted catty, rude and inappropriate multiple, multiple times! You are not a true friend and compared Lisa and your friendship to playing chess with Bobby Fischer? Wow! Hopefully Lisa drops you like a bad habit. I really hope you are not on the show next season and hopefully watching yourself this season was a big mirror for you.
Come on, Kyle, we all saw it. You were in Adrienne's corner when you should have been defending Lisa against her viscious attacks. Upset about that stupid "splits" comment? Really?! If you have known Lisa as long as you say you have, I would think you would have known she was kidding. Unlike when you talked to Taylor...that was a serious dig about her "preying on the weak". You have said it yourself..."the camera doesn't lie" and Part One of the Reunion revealed how mean and nasty you and Adrienne have gotten. Why did you never tell Lisa that Russell was thinking of suing her too? Remember what happened to Jill Z...hate to see the same backlash happen to you (and Adrienne). We don't like mean and nasty.
Perhaps it would have been best to keep quiet with your hurtful comments to Lisa and truly been fair to both friends. You know - if you don't have anything nice to say - say nothing at all (ever heard that?) Wow - unbelievable! Good luck with Lisa - although I am sure she will forgive you because she is a good friend - but hopefully she will watch her back (she needs to with you - for sure!)
FAN OF LISA!
Hmm...It seems pretty clear to those of us who watch that you're no one's true friend on the show aside from Taylor's...which then makes us wonder why that is. At this point you can't explain yourself well enough for your behavior towards Lisa to be off the hook with the viewers. I did like you somewhat so let's hope you don't end up being Jill Zarin 2.0 if you get cast in season 3. We all know what happened to her...
Kyle, You are not a people-pleaser, you just want to be liked, and there is a difference. This year you have come off as very mean spirited, controlling, and two-faced, and it has not been pretty. The viewers have been very disappointed and disgusted by a few of you ladies this season, and I am certin everyone knows who I am talking about. The show is not fun to watch anymore.
Kyle, You need to learn the fine art of the apology- to Lisa, for starters. Yes, you are a mean girl. Yes, you are a narcissist, a drama queen. You need to own up to the messes you make, and the ties that you are destroying. Lay off everyone else and work on you. Cut some other people some slack- otherwise you look like a jealous hypocrite. (Brandi). Learn a thing or two about being nice by someone else's example. (Tori Spelling). Life is too short to move through it making trouble for others!
Attacking a friend like that, not cool. What a flimsy excuse, take a good look at yourself b4 accusing others.
Kyle, your blog doesn't address your poor behavior towards Brandi who is a fan favorite. It has appeared all season that you take every opportunity to say something nasty to her or make faces behind her back. The nastiness perminates from you toward Brandi. Your willingness to throw Lisa to the wolves was very distubing. I hope you didn't let your children watch the reunion...kids mimic their parents behavior and you certainly don't want them to mimic your mean girl ways.
So you say you are expected to answer honestly ? Well when Andy asked you "honestly" about Kim you knew the politically correct way to answer the question. You could have used that same approach with Lisa. So you think Lisa saying you doing the splits as a way to get attention (which I tend to agree with) justifies you calling her manipulative and calculating ? Do you think perhaps that Lisa was hurt by ALL the things you said about her this season? Lets look back at what you said about her.... Taylor and Paul (Adrienne's husband) had indicated that you had been talking behind Lisa's back. Then you were quoted on camera saying "she has a big ego" "she doesnt take criticsm well" "she preys on the weak" and then during the reunion you were very short and aggressive with her. I would argue that you brought those things up to Lisa as way to get back at her as well. So you in fact do the same things you accused her of. At the end of the day it would be nice to see you apologize for the things you have said to and about Lisa instead of trying to justify your behavior. Lisa seems to be the only one in the group to say Im sorry and I apologize and even when she apologized to you on the reunion it still wasnt good enough. Sorry Kyle I dont buy it, I think you are in fact the mean girl we see on T.V.
I do appreciate your honesty, and while I really like Lisa and find her entertaining, I imagine that your comments are correct. You probably do have to be a strong person to be friends with her, and she is well, calculating in that she's reserved and thinks ahead. It's the Brit in her. That's probably what has made her so successful so what you've said is really not untrue. I suppose she'd preferred if you didn't say it on camera, but I don't think you said anything that was that bad and you want the readers to get a true picture.
I do, however, have a bone to pick with you. I can't help but wonder (and maybe, hopefully, I'm wrong) whether you are nicer to people who help your husband's career or enlist his services. I sometimes get the feeling that you are suddenly nice to Camille because you and your husband made a tonne of money selling her house ?! Again, just speculating so maybe I'm wrong.
All in all, you were great all season (minus game night). I like that you own up to your mistakes and are always trying to be a better person. Please, though, instead of having another baby (as the tabloids say you wish to) devote your time and resources to other people's babies and ending violence against children and animals. The world really doesn't need anymore people in it. It needs people who have time and resources to make it a better place for all.
I am sure you and Lisa will get over this hump, as you always seem to. Thanks again for a wonderful season.
Hi Kyle, I want to say that i understand you completely. I like lisa too, but i can tell there is something about her that makes others feel weird. and dont get me wrong, i really do like her and she has this charm about her but i noticed some stuff about her. esp when she was talking to this couple on a episode where the guy is working for her....and the way she spoke to him (and the wife) was like talking down to them. she has this thing about her.....like she is better than all.......
Kyle, your behavior on part 1 of the reunion disappointed me. I remember at last year's reunion Lisa didn't hesitate to defend you when Camille called you a bully even though Lisa is friends with both of you. She took the risk and spoke up. You should've done the same for Lisa. Friends don't let friends get unfairly attacked. You're a good person, so I know you've already learned from this. Water under the bridge.
If I can suggest how you can defend both of your friends: don't talk about either of them behind their backs. If the best hurtful remarks correlation is between suggesting someone preys on weak people and doing the splits then you owe the greater apology.
Kyle, I just read your blog and you say that at reunions issues are brought up again. And you said that you would have prefered to handle the issues alone without cameras. But, you are the one that brought up the issues between you and LIsa. You said you were upset that she made the comment about you wanting attention by doing the splits. You said that she said that in retaliation for your telling Taylor that "maybe she preys on the weak" which is a horrible thing to say about her. Why is it that you can say a horrible things to her, but you then get angry at her for saying a lesser thing about you? Just trying to get attention and preying on the weak are so different. Saying she preys on the weak is an attack on her character and very offensive. And you went to great lengths with alot of excuses and a big long story to explain why you said it. None of that matters. You even said that it wasn't about her. Saying that she preys on the weak and attacking her character is most certainly about her. And everytime she tried to respond or defend herself against your attack, you continued to attack her. You seem to have a tendency to go on the attack when you are upset about something...Kim, Camille and Brandi and now Lisa. You said that you didn't mean for it to come out that way and that you should have chosen your words more carefully. But, we have never seen you appologize for it. I just don't know how you could treat Lisa that way, especially, since you claim to be her friend. She has stood by you and been your friend through thick and thin. By the way, Lisa apologized to you immediately on the spot while she was being attacked. And then, you criticized her for it.
So really? That's it? You're not going to take any responsibility for the spiteful, ugly, hurtful comments you made toward Lisa? Or ALL the things YOU said behind people's backs? Face it...you DO like attention. You just admitted it by saying you do things off camera to make people laugh. To get attention. That's not necessarily a bad thing. Like you said, it's who you are. Why punish Lisa for noticing it or commenting on it? Just own it! I don't know what to make of you anymore. I do hope you start learning to think before you speak.
"Every thing was good between Brandi and me, or so I thought"? Oh what? Is Brandi not allowed to be offended all over again. Wouldn't her old wounds reopen just like every one else? But now you want to act like Brandi is the only one who can't let things go?
Simply put, you expect everyone to give you the benefit of the doubt and you hold everyone else's feet to the fire... with the exception of Taylor. I thought I liked you in the beginning but as the cameras roll on I see you are quite the actress... Not ready for prime time but you do well on a reality show. You come off as a very nice person on talk shows etc... But most of us can see who you really are.
Lisa has come to your defense many times but not once have you ever shown her loyalty, not once.
Kyle, I really like you, but you didn't "stay out of it". I think if you would have been quiet - that would have been better. Instead you made comments towards Lisa, but none towards Adrienne. You also said that "Lisa knows how I am". Well, you also know how Lisa is...and she always pokes little jokes at people, like a mother would. She never means any harm. If she is truly upset or angry, she will tell you. You guys need to accept her for who she is (as you want to be accepted for making your friends laugh, being a people pleaser, and doing crazy/fun things). It REALLY came across that you were all ganging up on her. She doesn't deserve that. However, you seem to be someone who learns from her mistakes. I think you will figure things out...
nice people don't have to work at convincing others that they are nice. you spew a lot of lip service about how [nice] you are.
I understand that you felt caught between two friends, but you have to understand that if you were in Lisa's shoes (deservedly or not), you'd probably still be in a corner crying. Contract or not, I would have got up and left. Alot of people would not have been able to take all of that and stay calm.
I've liked you for so long and would hate to lose all respect, because I really don't think you are a bad person, but this reunion was a mess. And from the looksk of it, it only gets worse.
There is no way that you can know what another person is thinking, so to say " I knew it was to get back at me for saying "maybe she preys on weak people"" isn't right. That's how you are thinking and perceive the situation. Perhaps a little guilt, knowing that wasn't the most appropriate thing to do at an engagement party, attention seeking or not. So much of your attack on Lisa seemed to be describing your own actions this season. Why not try to calm Taylor down when she is proclaiming that she is so mad at Lisa? Saying "maybe she preys on weak people" does not do anything to diffuse and calm the situation, it only fans the fire. There were so many times that you had the opportunity to make things right or send them in a positive direction and you never did. The attack on Lisa was so uncalled for, you should truly be ashamed. No people pleaser here.
The joking, innocuous comments made by Lisa, in no way, measures up to your hurtful remark that Lisa “may prey on weaker people.” You and Adrienne, came across as scheming to team up against her. Hoof, Crackpot and Attention-Grabber were meant to be funny and not mean-spirited. If those are the only comments that Lisa has said that you find offensive…..then I’ll take Lisa as a friend any day of the week. Personally, I find her witty and engaging.
Kyle, I hope my comment does get published. I've supported you time & time again re: your frustration/hurt in relation to your sister Kim (who I do think is very special and am always in her corner). I never judged any situation you were in, even when they were hostile. Yet, I do believe you not only threw Lisa under the bus-but you drove the bus. She has never been anything but kind/loving and supportive to you in many, many ways. Splits??? Seriously, who cares? You went after her and her face revealed a ton of hurt. I felt so sad for her & her blog reflects her palpable sadness. No excuses. You & Adrienne were really great last season. I have to say I don't respect either one of you for how you behaved at that reunion. Was really awful to hear your comments-almost venomous. I wouldn't blame Lisa if she didn't ever trust or feel close to either one of you "friends" again. I do, as always, wish Kim the best.
You have this uncanny way of appologizing without really doing so, then expecting everyone to forget what you have said. Your need for attention, which a lot of people thought about, did not even come close to what you said about Lisa "preying on the weak", and it still bothers me that you can't see just how horrible that statement was, and how painful it would have been to anyone. If you couple that with the fact that you never told Lisa about the lawsuit Taylor and Russell threaten her with, left me and other fans wondering just what your game is. This season you have come across as mean spirited, confrontational, and absolutely two-faced.
As far as I am concerned Lisa is better off not being friends with you, and that way you won't have to continue talking about waht happens OFF camara, as if it changes your words on camara. I think you have a hard time dealing with the fact that you have a tendency to bully people you see as usurping your authority, but perhaps you will read the posts here and take at least a few of them to heart. I doubt it, but I suppose it is possible.
-- Lisa has been loyal to you Season I and during the reunion. --Lisa was the one you asked for help at the White Party and she was very compassionate to Taylor in spite of Taylor's crazy attitude toward her. --You comments "prey on the weak" was extremely disloyal. --You don't have to take sides to tell Adrienne the truth. The truth is that anger toward Lisa about the Palms is petty and presumptuous. It's not her party/her wedding/her family friend. It was baffling to me. --You might also encourage Adrienne to have a bit more humor. --Last, you know darn well Lisa didn't sell stories. Stick up for her! -- You did in effect take sides, by not deterring crazy talk. -- Have you thought that maybe your attention getting ways are a load of fun most of the time, and at times can be a bit annoying? And that's okay!
Kyle, it was definitely hurtful to say to Taylor that "maybe Lisa preys on weak people", is it your way to tell people what you think they want to hear, even if it will hurt the other person? We're all human...you hurt Lisa, but, that seems to be okay with you. You just don't want her to joke about or hurt you.
Don't know why I would bother because this will not get posted, but there is nothing nice about saying someone "Preys on the weak". It is just as much a negative statement about the strong person as the weak person,regardless of how you try to shade it. I would never trust a person who referred to me as that. Mocking someone is passing for their embarassing displays of attention-seeking seems relativly harmless. Calling someone predatory and opportunistic is unforgiveable.
Why the HECK do you ladies think that being HONEST is such a wonderful trait? Keeping your mouth shut when you know that what you say will deeply hurt them is a MUCH better trait to have than honesty in your communications with people. Just because Andy digs around with questions doesn't mean you have to "relive" the issue. You can say , " you know Andy - when Lisa said I wanted attention when I do the splits in public, it did hurt my feelings, but we talked about it and I"m over it now". Tempering your communication to make your point BUT not hurt anyone in the process is called " maturity". Watch your husband and Paul for good examples. Everyone will still like you, probably more than they do now.
Kyle-- sometimes it's best to stay out of other people's "issues" and keep your comments to yourself. You ladies should know by now that anything that is said or done on the show will come back to haunt you during the "reunions".
Oh Kyle, I hope you make a comeback in Season 3, but you were really hard to watch this season. I hope you go back to being the gal I really liked in Season 1, but I fear there might be a little too much truth to the 'Mean Girl' label.
Kyle...for all the faults that you have this time i must say something nice. I am proud for you seeing how nice Adienne is to Kim and siding with her for that reason. Thta is a true sister behaviour. Lisa only joked about Kim and used any opportunity to make Kim look as if she a joke to Lisa. As if Lisa is this perfection and can make fun of nybody who is not up to her level or reason.
Who cares about the splits thing...that's small potatoes. Saying that being friends with Lisa is like playing chess with Bobby Fischer is a very deep insult suggesting that she is cunning and manipulative and every time she tried to respond you said, "see..that's what I mean!" Even when she tried to apologize you did the same thing to her. Did you not see that she had tears in her eyes?? That coupled with such a deeply insulting argument as "preying on the weak"....you really hurt Lisa. Deeply hurtful. Why are you always falling into the role of the mean girl? The attention for doing the splits or Maloof Hoof...that's all so trivial besides the knives to the guts you delivered Lisa.
You could have defended Lisa against Adrienne's accusation that she sold stories to the tabloids. You simply could have said, "I don't believe Lisa wold ever do that." That would not offend Adrienne. Then you could have asserted that Lisa has a very clever, albeit at times, biting wit instead of attacking her for it. With friends like you, who needs enemies, or mother-in-laws?
The gang fight on Lisa was like the gang fight at game night. So nasty distasteful . Makes a gay guy just sad when I thought I saw class. Instead I saw mean girls that need to learn manners. Sad !
Kyle, I don't think you are mean. I truly don't. But I do think you lack an important aspect of self-awareness: even the icky, less flattering stuff about us can be true. You don't seem to understand that even "strong" women (not just "weak" or passive women) deserve love and the support of their friends. What an amazing display of "strength" that would be...
You recently gave an interview where you made a bold claim: "we didn't gang up on Lisa. If that's what you are insisting on seeing, then that's what you'll see." You are blaming the viewers for your actions. You said: "If you want to see it, you'll see it." I guess that goes both ways, "If you don't want to see it, you won't see it." If you insist you're strong, you're strong. If you insist Lisa is strong and that's why you are allowed to treat her carelessly, poorly or cruelly, than that's what you insist.
I like you and think you have a good soul, but it seems like you avoid looking at/analyzing yourself when you don't like what you see. You laugh it off, or say it's the mirror's fault, the camera's, the other person's, etc. I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND. I used to do this. Watching what a true and loving friend Lisa has been to you, watching her support you in multiple instances--it's clear she loves you. You buoy her up, laugh with her, talk with her and share your fears and pain with her. Again, the real tragedy, in my opinion, is your insistence that it's everyone else's perception.
I hope you don't avoid taking that moment to really reflect. It might be painful or uncomfortable—but that's when real growth happens—and it's wonderful. Love to you.
Really? You still do not get how saying someone 'preys on the weak' just may be construed as highly insulting?
Kyle, you may not get many comments here. In the absence of a Reunion blog from you until today, comments have already been posted on your last blog.....and there is a general theme running throughout. You set the tone for this season with your behavior at Game Night. Unfortunately, you carried it through to the Reunion. You hold others to a higher standard than yourself. Many many (ex)fans have already expressed that. I loved you Season 1. Season 2 was just downright painful, triggering for many people memories of the Mean Girls in high school. I know this label has been upsetting to you....you referenced it at the Reunion. But there is a reason so many hundreds (and HUNDREDS if you are brave enough to read Comments on Lisa's blog) use this term for you. Next season, turn to your better angels, not your demons. And if you do nothing else, PLEASE stop pointing at people when you are angry. In business, it is considered "shooting your pistol in aggression" and a huge faux pas! "You are shooting the intended recipient of your communication." I wish you and your family well and hope 2012 finds you, Kyle, in a more peaceful, loving place with people you choose to call "friend."