Lisa ponders the fallout of her fight with Taylor and her lodgings in Vegas.
Posted by Lisa Vanderpumpon Nov 22, 20110
This week we return to the tea party, where emotions ran high, loyalties were divided, and I floundered as I wondered if any support would come my way. . .
I expected too much. Even though you give others support, it is still impossible to assume that you will be rewarded with the same. I learned you can't expect loyalty to be reciprocated. Take heed. It was like rats deserting a sinking ship. I don't want anybody to "back me." If you believe I am right, and many had voiced the same doubts as I over the last year, then speak up. Don't do as I had mistakenly done, in defending Kyle against Brandi when I did not have an accurate picture of what had really transpired.
What did I learn from this humiliating experience, where I was insulted so publicly? I learned to pick my battles, and I realized that the person I was dealing with had greater battles of her own. Was my pride hurt? Yes, of course. Hearing Kyle confirm Taylor's accusations against me regarding my ego was very hurtful. But it was also enlightening, as previously I had no idea what had been said between the two of them.
Hello, Mrs VanderPump
I like watching this show because of you and Mrs Maloof. I enjoy the show because I like thinking that not all millionaires are how they are mostly portrayed. Also you remind me of Duchess, the white mother cat from the Aristocasts! (I hope this isn't taken as an insult, I mean it as a compliment, Duchess is an amazing Disney Character)
Love u Lisa! I think Taylor is so much like Cedric it is creepy. You seem to love to take in strays to nurture. Your heart is in the right place but it makes you open to hurt. Get Giggy a wife the next time you feel this urge. These cons worm their way into your life and suck you dry. They are what I call psychic vampires. Next season try to put up your psychic wall. They are not worthy.
I love Lisa! you keep your distance, you are classy, beautiful, wise, and that reflects when you talk. I think Taylor was in a very emotionally unstable stage of her life while this was filmed.. that or she is simply nuts, nothing she says make sense. I think she might have used her marriage information to manipulate people around her --- its sad because of what happened with her husband, I do not want to sound disrespecful but that is what I think--- Kyle, what a dissappointment, ever since last season's episode when she ran her mouth all over her sister Kim, she is not someone I would trust ever! she is a different person according the company she is having... especially around Taylor, its incredible how those two go around with their drama. I hope you do not get involved in that drama, something tells me someone is stirring up the pot between you and Adrienne, who I think is also a respectable lady, hopefully not... strong women like you two should stick together and show these pitiful drama girls better.
Taylor clearly wasn't thinking clearing about her relationship with her husband and put way too much thought into your offer of a place to stay.
The way I understood your comment too her was, even though you were not close friends if she needed a safe place to go with her daughter that she could stay with you. You were offering her an option to end a bad situation that Taylor felt she had no options because she didn't have a place to stay.
She was crazy for not taking you up on the offer, if that was truely her only objection to leaving a physically abusive relationship.
Seems to me you have more than enough space in your home and Taylor should know from working with all the abused woman charities that there are a lot of woman who don't have such good "friends" offering them such a generous solution.
Stay exactly as you are and don't change for anyone but yourself. I just love your sensibilities and admire your ethics.
You would be right to pay attention, being sure to cover your back with the other women in this circle. I know a lot gets edited into and out of the show. To show things the way they really may be boring in BRAVO's opinion, I contend that because of the editing, it isn't really real. And that's what we must remember as TV viewers.
Having said that though, I love you the most because you are who you are and that's a good thing with me. Hang in their and buckle your seatbelt when socializing with these women because you are going to be in for a roller-coaster ride. Unfortunate but predictable. Keep your back to the wall when in the company of these women!
Good wishes to you and Ken and your family and congratulations to Pandora and her fiance. Snog Giggy for me, please! He is so adorable. I wish you well, always.
Never never never listen to Kyle about ANYTHING. Her motives can never be trusted. I'm so glad you see her for what she is now. And yes, it was very very unfortunate that you chose to gang up on Brandi in the way you did. It was NOT what I've come to expect from you. Please wise up about all those women. I know you always had Lisa's and Kim's numbers. Now you must see Adrienne and Kyle for who they are as well.
First I want to say that Pandora is very lucky to have a mother like you! You can just tell by your interactions with each other that she loves you very much. You can tell that it just wasn't "material things" that she had so much of, you can tell that she was loved unconditionally by you and Ken, she is so confident, smart and down to earth. I thought it was a riot that she worried about how all your friends would act at her wedding! As for the tea party, at first I thought that you were being a little snobby and tough towards Taylor but now I can see why you were so reserved about her. She was telling people so many terrible things about how her husband was treating her and then when she is out in public with him she expects everyone to be cordial to him! I am glad you were willing to wipe the slate clean but I would continue to be a little cautious with what she tells you!
I admire you.However the way you kept on going at Taylor since last season was definitely not nice and her feelings, espeically in her situation are justified. I hope that you were truly actually be her best friend and be suppoortive of her. You're successful, confident and strong and she really needs that. I also understand Adrienne's feelings because if she needed a restaurant to go to for something important, she would of picked you over other friends. I think that you make a lot of things about you, even your daughter's wedding planning, engagement party was more about Lisa than about Pandora and you apologise/humble yourself to admit wrong with difficulty. I hope you can work on this. You're elegant and I like the way you keep your cool all the time.
You are the voice of reason! You are honest and dont get caught in unnecessary drama. You act the way you say. Thats why people can trust you in a more deeper level. Its a joy to watch you in "action" in this show. All the best!
LOVE, LOVE, LOVE you.
Just read your comments and Adrienne's. You would see that the vast majority of viers are on you side.
Keep being your fabulous self. Just one thing though, I don't think Adrienne gets your sense of humor. If you can avoid making jokes with/about her, then perhaps there would be less animosity from her to you.
You are so misunderstood. You are British and the others aren't so your comments and your expressions are very much from your culture and are so misunderstood. You are the only housewife that is "on-hands" cooking, working and acting like a wife and mother. At least Adrienne spoke to you
directly. And as far as Taylor Armstrong is concerned -- she grew up in an
abusive household -- married an abusive (psychologicallY) man so she her reactions/responses/manipulations are the only way she knows how to cope.
I thought your comment -- Maloof Hoof was hysterical.
Adrienne studied Political science. She is no fool at playing politics and I think you should be prepared that she has been at work on your friendships for some time now. Maybe THIS is what poor little Taylor was getting at, heh? I believe firmly that she did not like being called out at the Tea Party about her bashing you behind your back so she had to come out with it very quickly. You do not get a net worth of 300 million by being a dummy. Maloof is no dummy. Lisa, I feel she knows that she has nothing on you. But between her shoes, and Kyles book; they both want to stamp you out. Camille is a floater with little loyalty but she is smart enough to know it is time to invest in you and to quit playing all sides like she had been! Dang that girl has a good sense of knowing what the public likes to see (this season anyway). When she ordered a coke and chicken fingers; I thought Kyle and Adrienne's heads would spin around! Brandi is a fish out of water and looking for someone to just be nice to her. Goodness, I feel for her! Even if I do think she is tacky. She is sweet. Kim is...well. Kim. Taylor is overwhelmed. At all times it seems! So she sides with whoever sides with her. Dana who? Pinky, my money is on Brandi and Camille. Stick with them and you each can overcome these bullies together!!!!
Lisa, I was shocked at Adranne's blog....She is off her rocker ...honestly what is she thinking. I had to read it 2x because I could not believe what she said. You always are very supportive and encouraging to anyone that is a hard worker like yourself. It's kind of funny because I saw this one coming...Adrianne has been acting funny with you all season long...I believe she is the jealous one... Need I say more. Love, love, love you Lisa and Ken too. Also, I agree with your daughter...to much drama with these ladies.
I think Adrienne is over reacting. If a closer friend offers to host, then naturally you have the prerogative to accept the offer. I think she's picking on you for issues in the past. You're a blunt person and perhaps you said something that offended her. So now she's trying to find fault with you.
I think it's a true testament to your character and big heart that even in the wake of being verbally attacked by Taylor and not supported by anyone of your “friends” at the tea party that you were still were able to take the high road and give Taylor another chance. The benefit she will have from a friendship with you is clear…the benefit to you on the other hand is murky at best.
We could easily explain anyway Taylor’s irrational/unstable behavior when considering her very unfortunate marital situation, lack of nutrition and/or consumption of alcohol or other factors however it seems clear that even in the impossible event you would find yourself in the same predicament, without knowing you personally I would bet that you would never ever behave as she has. I believe that it is in the most difficult moments that true character is revealed and there is something unseemly and calculated about Taylor that you have clearly picked up on. First instincts are rarely wrong.
As for Adrienne, the formerly serene self-appointed peace maker appears to be coming a bit unhinged. She was fairly useless at the tea party and certainly not a fair arbiter of the discussion seeing only Taylor's side (and misquoting you again and again) and then with her latest ridiculous issue with your daughter's bachelorette party. As your daughter pointed out, it was her party. Is Adrienne suggesting that you should have imposed your will on her and insisted that the bachelorette party-- a once in a lifetime event -- be at the Palms merely to repay her for the past support she apparently showed you? How awful and tacky. What's worse is that she lures you to her charity event only to then confront you over this issue just as you arrive making your visit completely uncomfortable. What a way to treat your guests that are coming to support your charity. Desperate indeed! I look forward to the next episodes and really hope that everybody stops picking on you. I also hope you get your own show.
LISTEN UP BRAVE...........GIVE LISA HER OWN SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You have had as much success making Lisa the bad guy as you did trying to make Bethenny one. So listen to the fans and give ILisa her own show.
p.s. dump crazy Taylor while you're at it, she MUST be related to Krazy Kelly lol
Lisa, you are a classy lady and I am very fond of you. I enjoy watching you and the way you handle your self. I was suprised and disappointed of Adrienne, you have the right to choose where to celebrate. You are not obligated to stay at her hotel neither is she obligated to eat Only at your restaurants, that is ridiculous. I guess like you stated, maybe she needed it the publicity, maybe the hotel is not doing so well. At any rate keep been yourself and ignore.
Lisa, you are a funny, witty, intelligent woman. So.....why are these backstabbing women your friends? Kyle just comes of as a self-absorbed attention getter! (I'm not sure if that's a real word!) You have been taken advantage of by Kyle - I wouldn't trust her. I thought she was awful last season, but this year she's nothing short of a 15 year old mean girl.
You have a wonderful husband and family so I wouldn't waste my time with these catty women. Just food for thought. I do enjoy watching you because of your sense of humor. You make this show interesting. I am certainly over all of the petty fights. You, fortunately, rise above them. Don't let the others drag you into the mud.
I hope you read these and are encouraged by the fan base that has developed on your behalf. You have been gracious and please continue to do so. Taylor is about as much a victim as a hungry lion looking for wounded prey.
Can someone please get Taylor some medication!!!!! This girl is a walking victim. We all have issues in our lives but crying and breaking down if someone says boo is just not something I would allow myself to do. You have to be strong no matter whats going on. Everyone is not going to be your friend and thats ok.
You seem to be a very sweet and loving person and extended your family to Cedric when you felt he was in need. Unfortuneatly you learned the hard way that he was manipulating the situation for his own greed. Now someone you considered a BFF is proving herself to be a disloyal and back stabbing friend. Again your loving nature and hospitality are being advantage of. Please don't get discouraged and keep being the wonderful beautiful person you are!!!
I am shocked that you can deal with these women!! I feel sorry for Taylor. However she may act, or cry she has a lot to deal with right now. Kyle, she is so jealous of the younger and thinner ones. She is even horrible to her own sister!!!
I would never under any circumstance be "friends" with her.
Adrienne seems very nice and classy, not petty.
We'll keep watching, Lisa.
Tam- Long Island
I have to say this, hang on! I think the wedding planner is getting a step up on you, watch out!! LOL! I think those invitations that he and Pandora selected are
hideous, and ridiculously over the top! I loved the first one you picked up.
Hello, beautiful Lisa, I have a question for you. Is that you looking gorgeous on page 40 of the November 2011 (Jennifer Aniston is the covergirl) issue of Elle? You look to be posed with Barbara Bach and another model whom I do not recognize. You look breathtaking in a Gucci dress.
Lisa - I'm so sorry you have to deal with this at all!
Taylor is CRAZY! You should go with your gut feelings.
I love what youre doing with the wedding and YES It was Pandora's choice and Adrienne should really just get that. I am glad that she actually said something to you to your face rather than behind your back. At least she gets credit for that. And I can appreciate that you didn't see it coming.
Hopefully you are at peace and all is well with your family. Enjloy the wedding and all the goodies.
and watch your back with Kyle - she's got some serious issues that cannot be disguised by the camera!
I agree with everyone who says you should have your own show! It would be Vanderfabulous, and Jiggy would enjoy it too. Your family is lovely, your taste is exquisite, your restaurants are beautiful, your life is fun to watch. You work hard. You seem secure and stable. You seem intelligent, and like you have a good heart, yet you always have a twinkle in your eye. You are not petty, not overly dramatic, not two-faced. You don't bicker with your husband. You don't seem to be negative, immature, social climbing, backstabbing or off your rocker (which are not fun to watch). In a word, you seem to be a refreshing cut above the rest.
From what I saw, Adrienne has a beef with you but admit it out loud. I think the issue runs deeper than the bachelorette party. She certainly wasn't interested in your explanation! I suspect she is used to getting things and doesn't really care for those that don't cater to her. Definitely saw a different side of her! What was up with the wine thing, too? It seems like she didn't really want to support your business but wasn't expecting you to call her out. Stay strong and I love how you keep your cool (some may call it grace). By the way, I would never ask a friend to host a party for me. Remember Taylor asked Dana to take over game night? I I thought that was so tacky and shady.
I may be in the minority BUT I loved the invitations! They were so pretty and weren't ostentatious at all--I mean you lived in a 30 mill mansion at the time! Duh. I hope we get to see Ken a bit more. I feel like he is pushed to the side. Show him and your son some love, dahling. Jason is gorgeous and your daughter reminded me of me when she scolded you for having bickering friends. My mom's circle of friends are exactly you and the other housewives (sans living in BH): they can't get together without fighting but they live without each other either.
Love you, dahling.
I really like you and Adrinne very much, however she is flat wrong about Pandora's party.
She should have offered or asked you if Pandora needed anything for her big day.
She is more concerned about her hotel getting free press than giving Pandora a gift.
Don't feel bad about it and sorry that she is out of line on this one.
I also feel that Taylor is more concerned being friends with the rich ladies than to have loyal friends. Taylor just threw Kyle under the bus the day of your tea party.
Taylor always changes the contents what was said.
The best part of the show is seeing Pandora planning her wedding.
You worked hard for you money.....enjoy spending it on your children!!!!
PS Forgive Kyle, You did not make a fool out of yourself....it was Taylor and Kyle that looked bad on national TV.
Your heart was in the right place, do not feel humiliated. YOU DID NOTHING WRONG!
Lisa, you are the greatest. Keep saying whatever you need to say. Taylor is - and she goes on and on and on and on......yikes. What does she expect? She brings herself up nonstop and you, as an intelligent woman, comments, and she has a hissy fit? She's pathetic trying to pick on you and so fake, it was ridiculous to watch - please stay away from her!
Your my FAVORITE, and I'd like to think you all are really real. However I was disappointed when you went over the top with the invites, when all the while you were the only one who ever acted as though the Beverly Hills nonsense was just that! Nonsense. Now, your following all the pomp and circumstance. I realize it's your one and only daughter, but did you see your son when you were handing out engagement presents? Was that just for the cameras? Sad. Also, why were you interviewing caterers when you all own restaurants? I do feel if you work hard and have money, you should be proud and do whatever THE HELL you want with it. However, when you get obnoxious with your wealth, it's a huge turnoff and people then no longer respect you. Where I come from, a small town near Chicago, people don't generally go around letting others know how wealthy they are. It's usually the opposite, the ones showing, acting, flaunting are my than likely broke (which has been proven on these Housewives shows, a bunch of fakes). Like I've taught my kids, don't judge a book by it's wealthy "looking" cover. Last, if your that wealthy, and you obviously want people to know it, show something good, why and how your wealthy and what good your doing with it. Thanks for the entertainment, and for making me realize just how good, really good I have it.
Would either you or someone else please explain what your problem is/was with Camille...in explaining your comment something along the line of Taylor having a big problem with Camille..."much more than I do"?
What's that all about? Have I missed something along the way?
cheerio my deario + all the best
Lisa, you seem to be a great friend to many, and truly very generous. It showed when you were so kind to take in Cedric, and again when you offered a home to Taylor and her daughter. It's sad that some have taken advantage of or misconstrued your generosity. I find you refreshing and surprisingly down-to-earth given all the wealth and success you've earned. I enjoy seeing you work hard for what you have. I can't for the life of me understand why Adrienne was so "hurt" by Pandy and Jason's decisions to accept the generous offer of your friend to host their parties at Planet Hollywood. I am sure Adrienne would have loved the publicity for her casino, and I'm also sure that the parties would have been fabulous at the Palms. But the way she handled it was really quite classless. Why not offer Jason and Pandora a nice honeymoon suite at the Palms if it was truly about them? The fact that she felt this was about her, and not supporting HER says a lot about her character.
Please don't throw your friendship with Kyle away because you didn't feel she was as loyal as you thought she should have been. These are the ups and downs of a friendship. If you throw someone out because they don't meet your expectations, you won't have any friends. Kyle will see herself this season and not be happy. Give her a chance to make amends. Alright already with bringing up that you would not have sided with Kyle after seeing what went down with her and Brandi. We get it, we get it. Move on to something else for heaven's sake. Watch out! Brandi may say you are on meth next!
Lisa I think you are fabulous! Wisdom must kick in tho and you must realize that Kyle likes to stay in the middle and stir a little to the left and then to the right. Don't get me wrong, I like Kyle but she seems an opportunist when it comes to friends and it wouldn't surprise me if it was Kyle leaking Taylor info to the press because she talks to EVERYONE. As far as your ego goes? GOOD FOR YOU! I wish I had the confidence that you do. You are a beautiful woman, with a beautiful home, family, and successful businesses. Wow! What do the others have? Money? OK...what do most of them do to earn it?
As far as Pandora's wedding? The boxes are beautiful, except they are huge. Really ostentatious. How about the same thing only smaller. That would be more elegant instead of obnoxious....they'll just get thrown in the trash anyway....But hey....whatever makes you all happy! And Adrienne? Really? Like she needs the business! LOL I guess she was getting too boring on the show, so she needed to kick it up a bit? At any rate, chin up! Looking forward to seeing you again tonight on the show! Cheers!
You and your famliy are just elegant ! Congrats to your daughter pandora on her upcoming wedding with an outstanding man. And when is your son matt getting married? lol! You and taylor that episode i did see it and i actually cried when she was saying all this stuff to you and all the other houswives and then i was laughing . I know I am weird needless to say that is how i am and no 1 can change that about me only myself lol. see ya tonight!
Trouble may be the very thing that draws you the closest to your friend Adrienne. She is worth fighting for - and sacrificing a listening ear and caring heart for. My thought for what it is worth is that Adrienne is a REAL friend and whether you think she ought to be hurt or not - care about her feelings and listen to really hear and care about what she feels. This will be an opportunity to create an even stronger friendship. If you don't think about business aspects to helping a friend then maybe you should - Taylor is NOT worth spending alot of energy on as she is very babyish and selfish in her thinking but Adrienne is worth spending alot of energy on. Hope this strikes a chord with you. Kind regards,
Lisa I like you but I love Kyle and I dont know what you expected her to do in the situation she was in. This is real life. Sometimes you have friends that are not friends. Its hard being in the middle. I have been in the middle before and I love both of my friends dearly. But when you are trying to comfort someone sometimes you say things. Its normal and it happens all the time.
You are absolutely amazing and every episode I enjoy observing your conduct as well as your tone and demeanor. You always have so much for us to strive and live for. Thank you for being genuine and as honest as you can be. I love you.
you are my favorite Beverly Hills Girl. I feel everybody is ganging up on you. I hope your daughter's weddng went well. As far as Adriene's disagreement with you about Pandora's party being held at planet hollywood, you specifically said that a friend offered to hold the party. Get over it Adrienne.