I had a really great time at the spa -- thought it was not as relaxing as it could have been. We were too busy having having fun and getting goofy! But did we have fun? Absolutely! We all loked like we just got the worst spray tans you could ever get!
That night at dinner the food was great, and the head chef Chad was very nice. Then Yolanda started to share her remedy for back pain. Needless to say I was a little taken back! It sounded a little scary and gross. After dinner we all went into the den and talked about the events of our day. As the girls broke out the hard stuff, it was my time to say my goodnights and head upstairs!
The next morning as we were getting ready to leave I was sitting in the kitchen with my sister Kyle discussing the weekend. I don't think this was a great weekend for my sister and I. For some one-on-one special time, we could have walked alone, just the two of us, or maybe had a nice horseback ride to the mountains. But my sister and I did have a good time.
I felt we did grow as a group and a lot of healing took place. (For some of us!) Yes this trip had its moments -- but there was a lot of laughter and a lot of fun involved. That was my goal for this weekend. What Camille said as we were leaving really meant a lot to me and I really think this brought the group a step closer!
I thought it was disrespectful for the girls to be drinking and getting drunk on the trip you organized to Ojai.
It is nice to see you doing better but causing drama by telling Adrienne what Brandi had said was inappropriate. For a lady who is wanting a much calmer and spiritual life this was not in the best interests of anyone.
Kim, I think you have a good heart, but was surprised that - for someone who claims to hate conflict - you were quick to stir it up last night. I don't get it!
Kim,
I actually understand your anger toward Kyle, but telling Adrienne and Paul before entering
Mauricio's event was dangerous and not smart. This information has been circulating all over the Internet and in every local rag, Brandi didn't divulge a deep secret!! If you felt the need to tell your good friends about what Brandi said, it should not have been done at a special event
Mauricio planned. Perhaps people will understand Lisa's reluctance to become involved with
them again, and why Paul seems to be taking it so personally, she was the same way with
Russell, and I respect her immensely for that. Paul isn't the lovely person we thought he was,
that's become very obvious. You also know that Adrienne hasn't been very kind about her comments concerning Brandi and her children. Big mistake Kim.
I think everyone on the show lacks tact, however, that lack of tact apparently makes the show. Kim.....couldn't you have called Adrienne to tell her what Brandi said? You have her number.
Kim,
It has been so nice to watch you as you reclaim your life with your sobriety. That being said, I think you need to continue with your therapy because what you did to Mauricio at his event was a low blow. You had to know telling Adrienne and Paul as they arrived would turn into a messy screaming match. If you cared so much for Adrienne, why not call her immediately after the dinner so she could decide for herself if she wanted to go to the Agency party or not. You created drama that could have potentially harned your brother in law's business which in turn hurts your sister. You are still very angry with Kyle and you need help to see this so you don't hurt anyone much less yourself again. You did the right thing by informing Adrienne and Paul, you chose had extremely poor timing. I hope you recognize this and make amends with Mauricio and Kyle. Kyle may be tough to have as a sister but you showed last night that you too can be difficult.
Im so proud of you Kim. Of all the ladies you seem the most real. Lisa was my fav but she just...hum. Kim stay you and keep living for you. After all you have been through, you came back amazing. Good Job.
Why did you do that?
Wow, A&P barely entered the party before they were blindsided by Kim. My immediate reaction to watching her insert herself into insanity was shock? This was neither the time nor place to get into such a conversation. We all knew this would turn into a s... storm the minute Brandi aired all her dark thoughts about Adrienne at the luncheon. They all appeared to be speechless and then the luncheon abruptly ended. The blame rests firmly on Brandi's shoulders. From the inception of this show we were made aware that Kim didn't have friends and wasn't a master of knowing how to form friendships due to her childhood. Not making excuses for her, but I just don't think she is that devious, or thought that far ahead. Clearly A& P have had a lot going on behind the scenes which we all knew was heading toward a divorce. Kyle and Mauricio have every right to be angry with Kim. Pick up the phone next time.
nan904 This situation has two sides. Brandi didn't say anything that hasn't been in the media and the Internet. Adrienne hasn't been kind in her
criticism of Brandi either. I agree that Mauricio and Kyle have every right to be
made at Kim. But Brandi was retaliating for slanderous remarks made about herself as a parent. Whether or not this was something she should have done is
irrelevant, it's out there, no big surprise. I think what Kim did was dangerous, Paul's behavior was frightening.
A big part of maintaining sobriety is taking a daily inventory of motives, where we have been self centered, dishonest, lacking faith etc. Hope you are taking that inventory on a daily basis....especially after the situation you inflamed at the party. It is between you, your hp and hopefully a sponsor. Admitting when wrong is key............
this episode was the perfect example of the story of the king who sent his servant out into the world to find the greatest weapon on earth. the servant came back and told the king that the greatest weapon on earth is the human tongue.
vindictive: Adjective Having or showing a strong or unreasoning desire for revenge.
To all of you people calling Kim a vindictive person, were you calling Brandi that when she went and told Lisa rumors she heard last year? I doubt it. I think that Kim was being a good friend. It shows that she is getting her strength back. For all of Brandi's fans to jump on her is crazy. Kim was very calm when she talked to them. She really felt like she should tell her friends what was being said about them. It really didn't seem like she was trying to start drama and even told them to be calm about it. Brandi herself in her blog this week has even said, that she never should have said it and that she would take it back if she could. I would want my friend to tell me the truth. PERIOD....
Its called Karma....lol....loved that Kim was the one who told A & P....and why shouldn't she, they seemed to have been good to her...If Brandi did not want it told, then she would not have said it...come on, this is tv...nothing is not thought out, it has a plan before the season starts....glad they let Kim drop it...yaaa
Well Kim you killed two birds with one stone tonight. Brandi and Kyle How many more are on your list? I thought you had or were changing for the better . Tonight not so much you seemed to have this hidden agenda ,do you really think that Adriene and Paul give a crap about you ?Well they don't and now because you ran straight to them and repeated gossip from Brandi you will be pulled into this mess if it goe's to court. I thought you were getting better but not tonight you're the same Kim just cleaned up a bit with a fancy dress on.
Just when I was starting to like you a little, you went and messed it up. What did you think you would accomplish by telling A & P what Brandi said? If Brandi said such a horrible thing, then you knew for sure that telling them would start a war. I think the problem is that you still haven't forgiven Brandi for being the brunt of yours and Kyle's behavior last season at the game party. Not even with all the apologies and kindness Brandi has extended to you. Fact is, you are the one who owes her an apology, not the other way around. Brandi was just being very kind and gracious to you. Hopefully someday you will learn what those two traits are all about and not just keep taking from people and stirring up trouble.
Lin8888 Why is it okay for Brandi to go back and tell Lisa things, but not Kim to her friend Adrienne? I think Kim was being a good friend. Kim was very calm when she talked with them. If my friend knew a secret about me, I would be upset if they didn't tell me. Even Brandi herself has said that she should kept her mouth shut...don't blame the messenger...
Ashleysama Lin8888
It wasn't a 'secret'. If it was a 'secret'..by definition.. Brandi wouldn't have known about it....
earthangel Lin8888 so you have never shared a secret with someone? Really...please stop attempting to be so literal with what I said...and of course you completely ignored the point of my post...why was it okay for Brandi and not okay for Kim???
Ashleysama Lin8888
i dont think the problem was her telling adrienne i think its where she chose to do it. this was maurico's big opening with his clients.
nursenj Lin8888 Bad timing, yeah I can agree with that...but I do not believe that she was being malicious...she just wanted her friend to know what was going on...
Ashleysama Lin8888
It's called "wrong place," "wrong time." Kim knew this open house for Mauricio and his partners was a big deal and she could have called Adrienne and told her long before they even showed up. Why wait until this event to even bring this up if you didn't do it on purpose to ruin the event? She would NEVER be invited to another event I held.
I agree with Lin888 Kim you are a trouble maker and I don't care for the way you act at all. You may have stopped drinking but I don't think you have improved yourself at all. You can't seem to forgive anyone who doesn't like the way you act. I forone think you are the worse type of people who want's all the attention and doesn't like it when there isn't trouble.
Sherryspooner
kim is very hard hearted and unforgiving. people like her can kill. very evil. she continues to hide her evil behind addiction. something is wrong with her. am scared of her frankly.
They smile in your face. All the while they want to take your place. The backstabber. Backstabber.
I honestly think Kim told Adrienne and Paul the "big" secret has more to do with Kyle than with Brandi or anyone else. Kyle is controlling and really plain mean to Kim and Kim was finally in a position where she could extract some revenge on Kyle. I don't think things are all peaches and cream with Kim and Maurico either. She killed two birds with one stone. It may have made her look bad, yes, but look back and remember how Kyle has controlled and hurt Kim. I think in her own way she's telling Kyle she's not giving in to Kyle's controlling and manipulative nature any longer.
BACKSTABBER!!!!!!!
Kim, you are a nasty, vindictive horrible person, what you are is written all over your face. And you do look off your face all of the time, still!
Just as I was begining to really like you - you are turning into your trouble making sister! Who in their right head would babble something like at such an event. If you were really concerned about Adrienne then in private would have been best...not during a party! Don't you ladies know tact? My gosh some serious growing up is in order for the Richards sisters.
Kim may be booze and drug free but as we can see it is but a symptom of her problem. I wonder if her kids saw the episode ( the season finale) last year where she told kyle she was pregnant and all the drama she brought on herself minus Brandi. Some of these women cant handle Brandi because she's not as professional and being fantastic plastic she too uneffected by the B.S. Adriene make me sick Paul would have got in my face like he did Brandi's i would have made him swallow his teeth.
Wow Kim! Talk about running back and tattling! That's something my children would've done when they were three or four years old. Well...I guess we all see who we can't confide in. You are a straight up SNITCH! Hmmph! And to think, I thought so highly of you last week. That certainly didn't last too long.
I think it's awesome that you're making such big changes and staying strong in your recovery. It also makes sense that you're not going to be all hearts and flowers with Brandi this early on. However, as far as I've seen (and maybe I've missed something, it's certainly happened before), you've taken no ownership of your own behavior towards Brandi, and you were undeniably cruel and out of line in the way you treated her, particularly on the infamous game night. Part of recovery is making amends to the people that you harmed in the past. You aren't the victim here. Maybe Brandi chose the wrong time and place to open the discussion and apologize, but she was definitely making a huge gesture towards someone that treated her horribly in the past. It was a two-way street, I certainly think that she owed you that apology, but you continue to take a victim stance that isn't healthy or appropriate.
And stirring the pot with Adrienne and Paul at the party did nothing to help anyone, least of all yourself. Involving yourself in that kind of drama is not doing you any favors. You didn't go to Brandi - Paul even asked whether anyone stood up to Brandi and you admitted that everyone went silent. From what we saw, and it seemed pretty clear, you made no effort to speak to Brandi before running to Adrienne and Paul to spread the news, and at a party no less. Unwise to involve yourself that way, for your own sake, and you continue to treat Brandi unfairly. You owe her multiple apologies, and it's time to start acting like an adult. Good for you for getting sober, and I don't say that lightly - I know what a hard road that is. But you can't sweep the past under the rug and you can't keep playing the victim if you want to make a full recovery and right the wrongs of the past. You weren't the only one hurt by your alcoholism and you're not doing yourself any favors by painting yourself as the delicate flower trampled by life who needs to be treated with kid gloves and be automatically excused from your past transgressions. Time to own up to your part of the Brandi mess and quit focusing on how much SHE hurt YOU. You and Kyle were awful to her. That doesn't even seem to register with you.
I wish you the best with your recovery. A huge part of that is being honest, both with yourself and others.
Kim you crack me up...talk about adding fuel to the fire....well honey you just lit a bomb fire!
I know you thought you were doing the right thing - Adrienne is your friend - and you were in total shock that Brandi had the nerve to put something secretive and personal out there for everyone at that table. And, i know you assumed that Adrienne and Paul would not react in the hostile manner that overtook them - but you couldn't control their anger and stop their retaliation. I hope you will laugh about it too.... Thank you for the comic relief... seriously I needed to laugh - because i was shocked too, in unbelief that someone would have the audacity to gossip about a person in front of their friends....Brandi is out of control.
My thoughts - she was doing this all for Lisa's benefit...but what Brandi needs to understand is...Lisa is not a Bitch... Lisa has her Mind Heart and Spirit in order... I think Paul called it well - when her referred to Brandi as a Bitch.....I'm just very sorry and I know you are too ...that this occurred at Mauricio's event...another apology - you'll need to make. I hope that Kyle and Mauricio will understand....start with a hallamark
Kim, I love you this season. Congrats on getting yourself together. Please stay positive and surround yourself with positive people, like Brandi, Lisa, Camille and Yolanda. I hate to say it but Kyle is toxic to you. Until she starts treating you better, you should keep your distance. She should make things right over your family home. It will always be between you two, if she doesn't. Also, the two of you together are mean girls. I don't think you would be that way without her influence. Both of you owe Brandi an apology for last years game night. You act so offended over her comment but you and Kyle treated her horribly. Now that you are sober, please watch that episode again. I think you will see it differently. Good luck to you and stay strong. Please don't let the show or family members bring you down. You can beat the alcohol, you deserve better and so does your kids. God bless.
Stirring the pot the way you did tonight was a horrible thing to do
Another thing.....wow, you totally ratted out Brandi. Whether you like her or not, nobody likes a snitch.
Wow, thanks for reminding me you chicks are koo koo. :)
I know that hind sight is 20/20. If you could do it all over again, I assume you would not have spilled the beans at Mauricio's event. That wasn't the time or the place.
Well Kim I would ask you to examine your motives in sharing gossip at this important professional launch of Mauricio's new company. Knowing Paul and Adrienne as you do I am certain you knew they would react at this venue. Bad form on your part but maybe you counted the cost and found it acceptable in order to make live harder for your sister and her husband. Passive aggressive behavior is not healthy behavior and does not lead one to healing and restoration. The time to speak up would have been at the ltasting when Kim asked Brandi the leading question of how was she and Adrienne. I think your sister was setting Brandi and Adrienne up by asking this question. More passive aggression.
So happy that you are in a better place Kim! Very proud of you. I did think it might have shown more support had the other ladies not drank so much.
I am confused why you thought the party was a good time to tell Paul and Adrienne about Brandi's comments. Since we don't know what that was, I guess we will have to wait and see.
Kim, don't you have Adrianne's number? You have to run like a high school mean girl and tell them at party, so not the right time!! I was really starting to like you, but dayammm girl, Brandi was nice to you and tried to bury the hatchet. Mean girl
@starjacks I agree! Such a mean thing to do
It's kind of strange to read the shock people have for her telling Adrienne. Can any of us remember one show in the RHWOBH where someone says something to the group about another housewife, and no one tells that housewife about it (on camera) later, pretty much always at an event? It was eating at Kim to say it, and lets face it, the whole Real House Wives franchise is based on creating the conditions of high school by having people associate with each other that normally would have chosen not to (just like highschool) in a very public format where you are judged for your every move and outfit (just like highschool often feels like because of being a teenager.)
Anyways, good for you Kim trying to turn over a new leaf. My favorite part is that you really want to be sober for your own sake, not just for others! And I think that it's OK you had a deeper moment with Brandi, dinner party or therapy, who cares, be real!
Kim, you were doing what a freind does, and you were the only one at the table that mentioned that is was wrong to say all of those things, making all of those accusations when they weren't there to defend themselves. AND YOU WERE CLEARLY BOTHERED BY IT, EVEN SAYINGTAYLOR AFTER LEAVINGTHE TABLE. YOU ARE GOING THROUGH A VERY DIFFICULT HEALING PROCESS FROM BEING EMOTIONALLY ABUSED FOR SO LONG, YOU FEEL THE NEED TO STAND UP FOR SOMEONE WHO IS BEING TRASHED. YOU SHOUOLD HAVE MENTIONED IT AT ANOTHER TIME, BUT YOUR HEART WAS IN THE RIGHT PLACE:)
I LOVE the fact that you are standing up to Kyle. ALL OF THE TIMES SHE HAS BLAMED YOU FOR DRAMA THAT WAS CLEARLY NOT YOUR FAULT, ALWAYS MAKING
YOU FEEL YOU WERE NOT PART OF THE GROUP.
TOO BAD IF VYLE DIDN'T LIKE WHAT HAPPENED. . SHE KNEW THIS STROM WAS BREWING, AND SHE DECIDED TO INVITE ALL THE PARIES INVOLVED. SHE KNEW THE DRAMA THAT WOULD INSUE. IT ALWAYS DOES. IT'S JUST USUALLY HER CAUSING IT, AND BLAMING YOU. IN THE PAST IT WAS NEVER YOUR FAULT.
Kim,
In running to Adrienne and Paul to tell them the big secret Brandi revealed, you reinforced Adrienne and Paul's notion that they should feel ashamed of something they should definitely not feel ashamed of. Moreover, you, Adrienne, and Paul all reinforced the fallacy that couples with similar family circumstances should feel ashamed, making them feel worse.
Next time, just say "I don't think it's a big deal and I don't think any less of a couple who goes through that experience."
@prrnchl Just saying nothing, Kim. She is such a nitwit.
I commend you for going through rehab and staying strong in your sobriety in spite of the fact that no one around you has the courtesy to drink non-alcoholic beverages as you make your way through the days one by one. But watching you through the seasons it is clear that Hollywood absolutely destroys it's child stars.
@grub Yes especially those with families who are less than supportive and toxic.
Child star my ass. She made afew movies no one remember, that does not make a star. All she's done since is marry well.





Kim
Part of the healing process for alcholism is to accept responsibility. Brandi was reacting to you and your sister's meaness when she said you were high on crystal meth. The drama you put on at that dinner was ridiculous. Brandi has been truly kind to you and you have shown her nothing but mean spiritedness. Give it a rest.
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