Hello to you all, hope you have had a good week and are staying warm on the east coast!
As we start this episode with Kyle saying she was coming over to my house, relaying the story of Vegas to Mauricio, it appeared to me that her recollection was slightly different to mine. Anyway we decided to talk just us, without the intervention of the others.
First let me be very clear here -- if I held a grudge I wouldn't probably speak to many of these women ever again. But relationships evolve, dynamics change, and sometimes loyalties divide.
In regard to Kyle, I always believed that whatever has transpired between the two of us, our friendship was always worth saving. Many situations that have taken place -- the first tea party, the reunion, witnessing the conversations between her and Taylor -- have all manifested in a substantial change in my feelings towards her. I regard her differently. Now if that is interpreted by her as me holding a grudge, then I do not have the power to change that. I personally feel it is a passive aggressive swipe once more. And it's also hard for me to understand how she recalls the many issues as "petty." I would never minimize the feelings of somebody close to me. . .
Lisa, yes you do hold grudges. If there is an issue with you and a friend, unless that person says I am sorry, bow down and kisses your feet, profess their undying loyalty, and promises never to do that again, you will exit them from your life. Why is it so important for Kyle to have your back? Are you not a grown woman? I am a grown woman, I do not need to demand someone have my back. I can take care of myself, and if a friend tried to interfere with a issue I had with another person, I would say to my friend-"I got this" I can understand if you were in a dangerous situation you would want to know who had your back, but having a diagreement or fight with someone does not require someone having your back. What are you in kindergarten? You do not need someone to tell you" I have your back", especially with all this bs going on this show, but you do. You need that pint of blood. I think you belive you are in England, and that you are the queen on this show. You may be the oldest and more mature, but when it comes to friendship there is no grey area, there is no room to breath. In real life, Lisa, friends sometimes say the wrong thing, might accidently repeat something, but they are still your friend. A girlfriend of mine would have to do something really bad to me for me to exit them from my life. You have no forgiveness in you Lisa! You and Yolanda push Brandi to the front to say the things you two feel you have too much class, but let me tell you something. Hanging around Brandi makes you and Yoland just as bad as she is. You are always saying how you chastise Brandi for things she says and do, but behind close doors you are right there with her. I hope you find the episode Kyle was talking about, and see if Yolanda said things about you. What are you going to with Yolands? Nothing probably, because you are a phone and a coward.
If you don't hold grudges and really move on, then why all the snide and negative comments about the girls you've had problems with. Last I knew class meant rising above and dealing with a problem with dignity and respect and then moving on not constantly making snide remarks.
Villa Rosa is the finest home in the whole BH. It's beautiful and filled with love. Lots of love, you are a true inspiration to all women.
Well Kyle said she has been replaced by Brandy. I think change is good.
Brandy stood up for you and you for Brandy. Kyle seems to hide behind her feelings and others. Then she wants you to forgive and forget. She was a friend until Taylor came on the scene and then she changed. She and Taylor were always together. Now she sees the real Taylor and she is stuck with that relationship, she sees her loyalty is misplaced. The good thing is that you read her and Taylor. I feel sure that Kyle is a bit unhappy that she jumped on the Taylor train, but it is a ride she can not easily get off because of the relationship the kids have. I still feel it was tacky for Taylor to ask Adrien to be her kids God Parent. Why would she not ask Kyle to do it. Seems calculated to me. You handled Kyle as you should have. She may be your friend but you know she is not going to have your back and it is better you know that and can put her in her place.
Just an FYI, I loved your husband telling Adrienne and Paul to give back Brandi her 10000.00 and everything will be done. Loved it
Lisa, You are not the problem in the relationship with Kyle, Kyles the problem. Also, I dont think you hold grudges or are manipulative. I think that is Kyles way of turning the tables. She likes to blame others for crap she stirs. Anyway, I agree, when someone behaves the way Adrienne and Kyle have, you can still be polite, but the dynamics of the relationship have changed. Kyle is not the dear friend you thought she was. I think she hates you are friends with Brandi, since she is obviously jealous of her, but she continues to have a relationship with Faye Resnick who is ghetto at best. Love you. You are true, honest and loyal. Dont change because Kyle wants to manipulate you into thinking the issues in your relationship are your fault.
Okay, one more...... I couldn't help but crack up when Ken said that the comment of the "Maloof Hoof" made the shoe (or however he said it). You gotta love Ken! :-) I'm surprised you didn't receive a 'Letter of Intent' to file a lawsuit for that comment. I guess they never heard of "Freedom of Speech".
PS - Lose Kyle! She's an instigating troublemaker and, clearly, not a true friend. She's a gossip whore. Stay away from her. You two are on totally different leagues! Being born and raised in Beverly Hills doesn't give her class, it only makes her a spoiled brat!
dangelillo I think Kyle is a Wannabe spoiled brat...she's only a wannabe...she needs to go!
Now here is a favorite! I love Lisa! I think she handles herself with style, grace and hell of a lot of class!
Lisa should relish in the fact that when all of this is over it will be her that is on top!
Lisa if Kyle defended you to Camille, Camille would turn around and say " Well Kyle you were the one that said it" In my opinion that is why she does not nor will she ever stick up for you because behind your back she is throwing you under the bus. She sees Brandi as a threat becuase brandi will defend you becuase she is not throwing you under the bus.
Hmmmmm you know Kyle really isn't someone worth fretting over Lisa, a true friend would never bitch behind your back, from what I have seen here in the UK Kyle loves it when others fall out she revels in the drama, sticking her oar in everytime, hers and Kim's Treatment of Brandi at the game night was cruel, bullying and manipulative, DONT TRUST THE GIRL. One big thing to say!!!! her criticism of your humour in season 2 finale was a betrayel of your friendship, your British! your humour is British! We Brits have a sarcastic sense of humour FACT, we get it, we love it, Bravo Bravo Ms V♥♥♥♥♥♥
Very diappointed in the show Vanderpump rules I would of liked a show about Lisa and Ken. I don't want to watch a show about server's and bartender's
A lot of fans would like to know who got the insurance money from the house fire............the Vanderpumps or the new owners?!?!
@charlie@company wow... isn't it obvious any insurance claims will be payable to the owner/s, in this case wouldn't be the Vanderpumps...
I think the question was, who now owns the home. Did Lisa sell the house before the fire.
Kyle is not a good friend. Just be thankful that you know now who she really is. You deserve better friends, true friends that won't wrong you.
lisa and ken are lovely people, with good and open hearts. i only ask that they be cautious.... because nothing with brandi ends well!
Kyle and Mauricio are entitled to their opinion. Why are you asking for support when others don't feel you deserve it.
cigarflower Because SHE feels she deserves it--Kyle and Mauricio are not the barometer of saying who should or should not get support--even though they talk as though they should--as though they have a better pulse on what is happening, and when Adrienne went gunning for Lisa, Kyle did what Kyle does--she backs out like she does because as she stated on this last episode--she has a hard time when she thinks someone DOESN'T LIKE HER--so she only goes for what she thinks is an easy win--she is not a supportive friend except to those she deems her support--but wants it from everyone else, and spends so much time trying to stay out of only certain situations because she thinks she is better than whoever else is being talked about for the moment. She is only a fair-weather friend, and not someone who cares to stand up for anyone but Adrienne---who also by the way Kyle has brought up more than ANYONE ELSE ON THIS SHOW. KYLE has kept the Adrienne situation going much longer and so constantly than anyone and everyone else put together.
because Kyle keeps saying she wants them to be back the way they were...Lisa is voicing what hurt her that is stopping that--Kyle never backing her like she used to (before she becamse HUGE on the show.....)
Love you Lisa,
. . . and Ken is the best man one could find. What you and he have is very special as are the two of you individually and collectively. You do not need to defend yourself to any of us. Although, common sense is not very common anymore . . . it does not take a genius to see that Kyle is lost in the forest on many things.
You do not hold a gudge, but are most gracious; something Kyle and her ilk don't understand and Kyle in a very real sense has betrayed you, belittled you and more than once. She ruined your friendship. Now she calls it a grudge. The trust you had for her is gone and at her own hand and has nothing whatsoever to do with a grudge or you. The relationship does change always after that. She does not have anything to recover from. She creates the horror and then acts like some stranger has created her havoc and blames the other person.
I do not think Kim is the only lady with big problems in that family.
Faye Resnick is an opportunist and after the murder of a "friend" of hers she she used the murder as her opportunity to get infamous. She is morally bankrupt and knows nothing of friendship now or ever. Never heard from her after the OJ thing went. Her stint with Playboy came and went without much notice and like a bad penny she shows up on this show.
Love you and Ken. Ken is the only true gentleman and real guy on the show. And you Lisa are a true lady and nice person.
Sometimes a friends silence is worse than an enemies words. Even apathetic people know and understand there comes a time when you must stand up for family and friends! There are no excuses here. Kyle has no problem defending others, just not Lisa.....
You are such a Classy, Beautiful Lady Lisa. I really enjoy watching the show, because you do keep it classy. You are such a good friend to those who deserve it and even those who don't at times. I know it wouldn't be a show without the drama, but it does get a bit out of control at times. I like the way you handle certain situations and call people out when they need to be. Nobody has to speak for you under any circumstance. As you've stated you are a strong woman and you handle your business. I do believe that the other ladies are fully aware of the woman that you are and I will just leave it at that. You are a beautiful soul Lisa and the world is a better place because you are in it.
May I say how much I love your screen name? Classy. How exactly is Brandi Lisa and Ken's mouthpiece to Adrienne? What has Brandi ever said to Adrienne that had anything to do with Lisa and Ken? Nothing. The only thing Brandi has ever done in regards to Adrienne is defend herself, which she is certainly entitled to. Adrienne has been a bully and a hypocrite. She and Paul are the ones who said last season about Taylor and Russel that "friends don't sue friends." Then, this season she's sending Brandi threatening letters saying she's going to do just that. I totally see your logic WhoGonCheckMeBOO. You make total sense. I love the examples and evidence you used to back up your nonexistent claims. Please refrain from commenting until you have something to say that makes sense.
Hello from Australia! We're a bit behind here, this episode has just been broadcasted...
While I'm not a fan of a lot of things Kyle does, she seems, like you, that she is fun and likes to have a laugh. Adrienne on the other hand is so dull and if nothing else I would find her to be too high maintenance for a friend (you can't stay on another hotel, you can't joke about her shoe line, etc) that it must be exhausting to be around her, having to watch everything you say and do. This is without even mentioning that she can sue you or spread gossip to magazines if you cross her.
So it doesn't seem to me that Kyle would even like someone like this. Could it be that she defends her (and not you) because she is afraid of her? Afraid of being sued or having gossip spread in magazines? Or perhaps the Maloofs use Mauricio when buying/selling property therefore they want to have a good relation with them?
The way both Kyle and Mauricio defend her feels almost "fake". I understand that they were not impressed by Brandi's comments, but what about what Adrienne siad about you? That doesn't seem to bother them...it's a bit suspicious.....
I would love to see a "Really...Real housewives" show on Bravo. It would be nice to see just one of the "Housewives" francise come and live with one of us. Let's get real !
Considering that Brandi is your mouthpiece against Adrienne, perhaps you and Ken should pay her legal bills.
Lisa: I'm so sorry to be the one to tell you (as if you didn't know) but Kyle is not your friend, not truly. If she was, she would not have any qualm whatsoever with defending you as any friend would do when they see that others in the group were in an attack mode toward her very dear friend - Lisa. Kyle certainly cannot (honestly) use the excuse that she doesn't like confrontration because she's definitely "out there" on other topics that are of importance to her.
I was appalled and disgusted that Kyle had the audacity to invite her own guest (Faye) to your tea party. No woman who is worth anything, that has even an ounce of etiquette or class would dare do such a thing (let alone to a "friend") without calling first to clear it with you. It's just a common courtesy that you would do unto others as you would have done to you. At least you would have had a head's up and at best you could have told Kyle no - if you wanted to invite Faye, you would have done so yourself. But instead, being the "brazen barge" that Kyle is - she just pranced right into your home with Faye, and it was sickening to watch.
Kyle can say she's a friend to you - but in reality her subtle, yet continual passive aggression and backhanded insults bordering on contempt, show otherwise. Kyle is not a friend to you because she's too jealous of you to be your friend and deep down she has a contempt for you that she's not even truly aware of. It's not good enough for her to say to you, "you didn't need my help in defending you - you were doing fine on your own" my gosh, what a cop out line that is. Does Kyle even know the meaning of the word "support" let alone "friend."
All I can say is Thank God for you and Yolanda! This show would be classless if it weren't for the two of you. Your husband is a real man. To watch Maurico and Paul talk to women the way they do is vial and disgusting. I'm sure behind closed doors they speak with their own wives is such a disgusting manner. You and your husband are precious and make the show. Fake Faye and Kyle make me sick. I have a knot in my stomach every time Bravo allows these two snakes to have the spot light.
Love you, Lisa. I miss you and Kyle being together as close friends. You two are both still my favorites. I can see how you felt alone at the last reunion but looking at some of the criticisms Kyle has received the season, I feel like she's suffering for simply being honest. A true friend is honest. And honestly, we don't always feel like one friend is 100% right or wrong or like the friends we love don't have faults. Brandi is flattering you now because she needs you and you're on her "side", not because of what is right. Is that really the kind of friend you want? I feel as though if you were honest in your criticisms of Kyle she would not be as sensitive about it. I even wonder if it's simply the difference of her growing up with a large family, openly disagreeing and offering criticism, realizing that they are not an indication of disloyalty or a lack of love. Quite the opposite.
And has anyone pointed out that from my recollection Kyle simply tried to squash the talk about Adrienne and Paul and suggest resolution when they weren't there to defend themselves. That's not really "defending" her. More like trying to keep the peace. You are expecting Kyle to stand up and fight your battle with you while you're face to face with your accuser, giving an answer, or when she doesn't know the facts. Remember, when Brandi explained the lawsuit, Kyle listened rather than "defending" Adrienne because she didn't know the facts in that situation either. I believe Kyle is simply trying be a fair and honest person.
Kyle talked to Bravo about having a show in B.H., then she got "her friends" lined up for casting. She felt and feels that she is THE LEADER or STAR of the show. But the Hiltons don't think so, embrassing!! Kyle wants to up her status by stepping on anyone.
At the beginning it was Lisa and Kyle....then Lisa saw the show when Brandi showed up with the leg cast....Kyle was telling everyone that she and Kim did nothing to Brandi, this went on until Lisa made the comment that the real story did not match Kyles. I AM SO HAPPY THAT LISA CAME RIGHT OUT AND SAW WHAT REALLY HAPPENED.
This was the first stepping stone between Lisa and Kyle, it was never the same. Kyle wanted everyone to dislike Brandi, and can't understand why Lisa has taken a shine to Brandi.
Brandi NEEDED A FRIEND.
Kyle is saying that her and Lisa has had conversationS about not backing Lisa. But she hasn't understood and Lisa and her are not close any more. BET KYLE was in on the Reunion Show to discredit Lisa, but never came out. Really a good friend??
Kyle is worried or very upset that Lisa has been and will be on top in the show, and Kyle cannot handle that....maybe this is where Faye comes in at, to help Kyle casting the show.
ANYONE THAT KYLE HAS NOT STARTED CRAP WITH THEN TRIED TO TURN IT AROUND TO BENEFIT HERSELF.
Again I wished that Lisa and AM did not use Kyle's husband when they sold their homes for millions, then when they purchased new ones, which would of been 4 commission fees in the million dollarS. Now she is spending trying to get up on the top with the " rich women".
I adore you Lisa...always have, always will. Cream always rises to the top while the pea green jellys wallow in the mud.
The dynamics have certainly changed over the past couple of seasons and Adrienne is leaving her mark all over the furnature like a male dog.
Taylor is seeing the reality of a friendship with Kyle.
Brandi will forever and always be wrong along with everyone else in Adriennes eyes.
Adrienne is leaving her mark in your house...oh yeah I said that already.
Bernie is getting a bad name for himself in BH. After Adrienne, he probably will never be hired by another multi millionaire again.
Kyle walked away from a 'discussion' between the Maloofs and Brandi.
Adrienne left her mark on that white sofa...
Geeze...now how is it this woman can live in a multi million dollar home, have her own line of shoes bags and horse hoofs, plastic surgery until she look like her pet cat and cannot find a tin of tan that doesn't stain? Please explain that one to me!
I hope now Lisa, there's no need to cast pearls before swine. Kyle isn't worthy of the dogcrap left begind by giggy, peekachoo and lollipop.
We all got our answers tonight and Kyle truly showed she lost the best friend she could have ever had! The hoof and ex-hoof aren't even worth a mention.
Stay out of everybodys business you are so nosy and like to start trouble. why do you protect Brandy so much? For a lady that is suppose to be elegant your company you keep is trashy and disgusting. So go do your new show which is nothing but a bunch of nasty young people screwing each other and stay out of everybodys business.
Lisa please tell that man of yours that he is a true definition of a gentleman. The both of you I absolutely adore. It's beyond wonderful to see you two weekly. A true inspiration in so many things you do and they way the both of you carry yourselves.. Much Love!!!
OMG Ken is such a stand-up man. You both are a gracious and kind duo. I loved hearing you tell Adrienne she smudged your furniture twice with her warpaint. She didn't even apologize or offer to pay cleaning. She just talked about you later at the table. But Ken was so incredible to stick up for Brandi to Paul who was insipid. The laugh was Adrienne talking about karma in the car and its come out that Paul and Adrienne are divorced and Chief Bernie has started a print war with Paul!!!! Funny how things come around.
Lisa I love you.. You and Brandi are my favorite two on the show. That is why my user name in Brandisa. Brandi and Lisa = Brandisa... Anyway. You and Ken have more integrity and character then the rest. I love that you put each other before anyone. That is why you have a happy marriage. I too have been married to my best friend for 25 years. I love my girlfriends but none of them come before him. My husband and I are not rich. we work hard and I would much rather people like you and Ken be wealthy then people like Adrian and Paul. Dishonest people will eventually fall. Looks like they are beginning to fall now. Stay far from Adrian and Kyle. They are not woman of character. Brandi and Yolanda are honest people. Yolanda is a little full of herself but never the less honest. Brandi will always tell you the truth and have your back. Stay beautiful and watch your back with these woman. I cannot even call them ladies, they don't behave like ladies.