Confusion, Contradiction, Confrontation, Fashion, Fun, Food and Fights
...and let’s add a large dose of hypocrisy as well!
Wow! This week’s episode had it all:
Let's start with Elsa.
She started the week straightening things out (how James becomes Elaine) and ended it getting voluntarily kicked out of her extended family’s dinner party.
Explaining to Elsa the James to Elaine transformation was a combination of confusion, contradiction, fashion, and fun (and we had a laugh and giggle too).
The Thomas Kramer (TK) dinner party started out fun -- loves, hugs, kisses, and more -- then went downhill quickly with confrontation and fights.
Was I upset Elsa "shushed" me? No. Did TK overreact a bit? Ya think? And in Elsa style, she stood her ground. Good for her. After a 20-year friendship, should anyone be surprised there was some family feuding?
At least when I got "shushed," I didn't take on the diva role, make the dinner party about me and frump out of the room in a noisy huff.
Why is it that the whole time all of this was going on in TK's house, you and your husband are sitting there with smiles on your faces? There was nothing funny about what he was doing and saying! And then you said that you felt bad for him. Ana wasn't doing anything, she was having a conversation with Joanna. What is this are you all back in school that you cannot speak until you are spoken to? I really thought it was DISGUSTING!!! What he did to Elsa was inexcusable!! Really, I would like to know why you and Roy were laughing the whole time. You did exactly what Karent was doing! HE SHOWED NO RESPECT FOR ELSA, AN OLDER WOMAN WHO HE HAS BEEN FRIENDS WITH FOR SO MANY YEARS! HE WOULD NEVER SEE ME BACK AT HIS HOUSE. WHO NEEDS FRIENDS LIKE THAT?
It is obvious that TK is a person who cares little for what people think about himself...his home reflects that as well as his easily angered temper...he is on the show for this very reason, so why are people bashing him? I personally would not attend his parties if I did not want to see his tacky decor or his flaming temper. But apparently others knew of his odd behavior, Marysol stated that she had been to his home many times....surely she told Ana what to expect...Joanna being an animal rights activist and supporter of PETA should not have stepped foot in that house, knowing he had stuffed animals displayed like family photos...her credibility took a huge hit with that decision.....Elsa and TK go way back, and surely they have butt heads in the past...I actually feel bad for your husband, Roy, for being in such a clearly uncomfortable place....he probably has little time for dinner parties and leisure time, and that night was a waste of valuable time for him, I would bet..
FlutterBy Amen. Why did Joanna go to his house knowing that he has a bunch of stuffed animals. That's disgusting! She made such a big deal about what Marysol wore to the lingerie party but yet she "adores" TK, and then on top of everything else he asks if Romain was cheating on her. I don't care how much money he has, if it is his house-HE WOULD NEVER SEE ME AGAIN!!
Lea, Elaine Lancaster/James is GROSS!!! Why are you friends with a guy that goes around bullying a woman? You should tell him that he should be a shame to be after Marysol like that, and he does it in drag! Like it's any better. In my eyes, it's still a man going after a woman and you just don't do that, not in the way he's doing it. I think you're too good to associate yourself with this "man"... GROSS... GUH-ROSS!!!
Lea I usually don't have issue with you but I find it very hard to watch you justify this man's behavior weather she was a guest in his home or the help. It was vile and wrong. He might be fun for the most part but that doesn't excuse his horrific behavior here. Also just because someone is a guest in someones home might mean they can treat people how they want but doesn't mean they should or make it right.
Hola Lea, first of all want to tell you that i'm sorry that your dog is no longer with you but you still have him i your heart xoxo.Well you had me crying i was like im not going to cry but too late the tears were rolling. I'm glad that you mention that Thomas went to far i mean i know Elsa sometimes could get under your skin still you never treat her in a nasty way.I have to be honest would rather have you say that at the time that it happened but then again if he was drinking that conversation would have gone south real quick.I understand maybe he gives to your charity and you don't want to burn bridges,i am not saying that he does make donations for a fact to your charity but that's my take of it sorry if i' wrong about that.I seen Thomas before on RHOATL with Km and he was so nice even when Nene was such a nasty guest and acting out of control he did not treat her bad at all so i was kind of in shocked when he wet off on Elsa !
With Ana i would say i do like her but if she sense that she would feel unconfortable with the way Thomas is she should of never went. How do you tell someone off at their own house its just going to end up bad. I don't know if anybody else notice but i had episode dvr and you do see Karent tellng Thomas something about Ana's conversation that it was lke chaging the mood of the party and that's when he went for ringing he bell so i do feel that Karent play a part on this one.
BravoPrincess Yes I noticed Karent in his ear and was wondering if anyone else caught that! I also love the way she laughed when TK was making that comment about "her friend" Johanna's man cheating..wow what a friend Karent is or is NOT.
bombshell8124 BravoPrincess I agree with what you wrote. All she did was laugh the whole time. She did not stick up for any of her "friends" the whole time she was talking in his ear and laughing. What kind of a friend is that? Who needs that in their lives.
He didn't just over react he offended an ederly lady in your presence and in your husband's he smiled and you did nothing ! what is wrong with you ? deffending him saying he's been nothing but gracious? you don't tell people to shut up that's not gracious,his comment abour Romain was inproper but not a big deal but humiliating and offending Elsa was ! You approve of bullying because you stand by while that big he/she keeps confronting her !Get over it just because you choose to be his bff doesn't mean other normal classy women want he/she arround ! Marysol is too classy and decent to be confrontational esp with a BIG man dressed in drag please !
What does James/Elaine do for a living? Is he talented? Is he even a nice person? I haven't seen anything redeeming yet or why he is even on the show.
You remind me of a society queen in 19th century Russian novels: rotten to the core. Look at the dubious males you consider your friends: the guy that talked loud in public about sleeping with Joanna....how low....the issue is not whether it's true or not.......the issue is that he is a low creature, not an atom of a gentleman about him. Then you have the man/woman dragqueen who is extremely rude and aggressive who you keep supporting and take his side just because you want to destroy Marisol. Then to top the creepy pile, you have the sexist Thomas who is super crude. Your integrity is questionable, woman!
I think Joe Francis is a creep too, but the truth of the matter is he didn't just start running around saying he slept with Joanna and her sister...no, no, Ms. Karent flat out asked him and he told her the truth. She should never have done that. She started that whole thing and has never owned her part in it! She asked him and then she ran and told Joanna. As much as I want to like Karent, she does stuff like that. Take ownership for the crap you do!
I understand that he is your friend and everything but if these women are your "friends" then you should have stood up for them a little bit at least! And I don't understand why when all of this is going on your husband has a big smile on his face? Why does he always seem to have that smile on his face? When poor Leroy (RIP) was in your arms and you called Roy to take him to the hospital, he seemed to have that smile on his face. There is nothing funny about seeing a poor,defenseless dog that is unconscious!! I thought what Thomas Kramer said to Elsa about her "being close to her expiration date" was a disgusting, low class comment to make. I don't care if it is his house, I think you should have respect for the company that you have in your house, especially if they are older than you are!! To me, with the comments that he made that night, it just shows that he has NO RESPECT for women at all!!! I agree completely with Ana with what she was saying about him. I WOULD NEVER BE FRIENDS WITH HIM AGAIN AND NEVER GO BACK TO HIS HOUSE!!! WOMEN SHOULD SUPPORT WOMEN, NOT TURN THE OTHER WAY. THINK ABOUT IT LEA!
Lea, you are a very smart woman… You orchestrated a lot of chaos without ever getting your hands dirty. You brought Elaine aka James and Joe to the PJ party of Lisa’s knowing full well that Joe would stir up sh*# with Joanna. The only downfall was that no fight started between Marysol and Elaine (James) but he managed to cause trouble with her friend. At the dinner from Hell you brought up the topic of Elaine and Marysol that set everyone off talking. Then u sat there like a little bird just enjoying the devastation that u instigated. You have so many people willing to do your dirty work you are a SNAKE. But I will admit a very entertaining snake……..Karma, remember that….
Lea, I love you and you're one of my favorite housewives.
BIG HOWEVER here though: you're wrong to defend Thomas Kramer in this situation. Just because he has money to donate and social power to dole out doesn't mean he was right in any way.
I still don't get why Lea' is getting so much flack about the TK's house party???? That is small potatoes compared to the rest of these yahoo's that are on the show. Just because Lea' respected being in another's home doesn't mean she was the one out of line. It was TK's house...bottom line. When it got heated because Ana was acting a fool he had the right to tell her to stop. Ana made the choice to continue acting like a fool then Joanna left and came back. Did everyone expect they were all going to smoke a peace pipe? Lea' was not he culprit at this party... All she has ever done is try to keep peace among the yahoo's.
@AnnaManager Lea's getting so much flack for the simple reason she sucks up to anyone who donates money to her charity. It doesn't even matter if the person is a felon. She will be their best friend if you have money to give her . In other words Lea can be easily be bought.
@AnnaManager--In order to defend Lea, you used a red flag bullying tactic of labeling all the other housewives "yahoos"...to convince others that they are "less than worthy" and deserved to be the target of Kramer's abuse...you should know better !!!
AnnaManager.....please buy a book on good manners. One never insults a guest....never. A really graceful host knows how to handle ANY guest. TK is classless. Birds of a feather......... Oh, and when you finish the book, send it to Lea. She SO wants to appear to be high class. LOL
Either you are really Lea using another name or you just like drama. No one can be that blind as to how Lea Black is as a person. She starts drama on the show and you carry it onto here. YOU need to take the blinders off!!!
inside.....the posts are running against Lea by a LARGE margin. You have a frog in your pocket? LOL
Lea, please get over yourself & stop acting like you rule Miami. I can't wait for your 15 minutes to be up.
You need to stop sucking up to people with money and influence. He's a pig and shame on you for grovelling at his feet, have some self respect. Men like Joe Francis and this ego-maniac are the way they are because women like you let them act like that. Good for Joanna and Anna, I'm glad that they are on the show, but wish that you weren't.
I just watched the episode of Leroy's service (again) and I feel your pain. It's been 8 years and I still miss my sweet Harlee so much. I sometimes wish that I had another dog, but I don't think I could go through that kind of sadness again. So emotionally rewarding to have them in your life, but it's completely draining to lose them.
I don't know if anyone else sees this, but you remind me of Shirley MacLaine and Marilu Henner together :-)
As I was reading all the comments tonite, I noticed that most negative comments to Lea are from the same people. I think some people are just jealous of celebrities and look for the negatives. I peronally am not a person whith money or recogniton, but I admire those that can and are not selfish. Lea and her husband fit that mold. So maybe Lea should not have said anything to defend TK, but she did, it does not make her bad person. Also that was before he and Elsa were fighting. Lea mentioned in her blog that Elsa stood her ground. TK and Elsa were friends for 20 yrs. Lea would have been out of line to interrupt their feud. I think Ana should have quit talking when TK asked her in the beginning and excused herself with a headache.
@gini --There's hundreds of one sentence posts here all favorable to Lea. They're all one or two post wonders...are they all JEALOUS OF ANA or has Lea recruited them? How about the 100s of posts by INSIDETHEBELTWAY. Cut out your belly aching the show is entertainment and Lea is a PAID cast member. She's voluntarily joined the RHOM cast and she voluntarily wrote this blog...some saw things differently than you and are entitled to their own opinion...lighten up!
@INSIDETHEBELTWAY --Take the time and read gini's post it is "she who calls the housewives celebrities", not I? So your problem is with "gini!"
R u kidding me....u ask "who would nt want to attend TK's party?"......who the hec would want to attend trash like that??? What is wring w u??? U have so much money and ur husband is so smart....why do u spend time w trash like these people????
newsflash......A host with ANY class at all treats guests in a respectful manner. I guess that little rule escapes some who were obviously raised by wolves. The man is a pig with no class and no manners. Money does not buy you class and you cannot make a silk purse from a sow's ear.
Lea, I like you a lot, but what happened at that dinner party? You started having a conversation across the table with Marysol and seemed to get a little loud. When all the attention went to Ana and Joanna and Thomas Kramer started ringing his bell it made me CRINGE.
You're a classy woman, right? Why sit there and allow other women, especially Ana, who is educated, intelligent, and respectable, be treated like a dog at that table? Not to mention Mama Elsa being yelled at like one.
But you still found the time to get up and say that they were disrespecting your "friend." The people you hang out with (Thomas Kramer, Joe Francis) is always a reflection of who you are, and I think I finally realized it.
The saying is true: MONEY DOES NOT BUY YOU CLASS.
Other than that, I am sorry over the loss of your beloved Leroy. It is very hard to lose a part of your family. And people that don't have pets or are not attached to them can never feel what us pet lovers feel.
@steven_cali Money may not buy you class, but it can buy you a lot of clothes, jewelry, cars, houses, trips. It also helps you to help the unfortunate as she and her husband contribute in a very large way. To me that is CLASS!!! Not everyone with $$$$ does that, as surely you know.
@gini --Lea may be rich but the TK dinner episode which is a good part of the blog discussion shows her "poverty of spirit" when it comes to caring for those she works with.
cupoftea gini Lea' is by far is a class act compared to these other ladies. "poverty of spirit" what are you talking about? Did you not watch the previous episodes of her and her maid that works for her?
AnnaManager cupoftea gini
Yes...and I saw Lea mocking her maid while she was reading "that book" (the bible), after learning that Lea's dog had died.
Yeah, Lea's 'rich in spirit', alright.....(sarcasm)
She honors with her lips, but her heart is far way.
gini At the expense of sounding negative, I have to say every time I hear her speak about her charity she makes it sound like she's a savior. Her main line (if you watched when she did that interview at the TV station and at the event) is something like "we do it for the kids. we want to keep them out of jail." and something about her tone and the way she says it sounds so nonchalant and unimportant. She focuses more on her gala and the celebrities, and how the best of the best, oh and in the end "it's about the kids." Sorry if that sounds negative, but there are some people who run charities and don't have to wear millions of dollars worth of diamonds and remind everyone how they are amazing and the greatest person in their city because they help at-risk youth.
INSIDETHEBELTWAY steven_cali ginimellowyellow AnnaManager
"What have you done lately for your fellow man?"
Well beltway, the other day I took a homeless woman named Ruth, out to breakfast, gave her money, paid for two nights at a hotel and then found a shelter for her to stay at while she is looks for employment......and you? ;-)
lea, have you watched the way that you hang back and listen before you actually take a stand.
I think they need to get the heat off of you Lea' and get on to other housewives that act so ridiculous.
I’ve gotta say that sometimes, you girls all act completely smashed. Are you guys always drunk or something or what in the world is going on with your brains?
Wow, is that how adults really eat at dinner? Didn’t think so. You girls are insane. TK as well obviously.
You know Lea, aren’t you sick of making this show yet? How much of a drama fiend can you possibly be before you finally get your fix?
Everyone throws the word “mature” around a lot and I don’t think you guys realize that that word just is not possible for these women…
The hole digging is something that weak people do and involves bringing others down with them. When I think of this method, I think of Ana.
You know Lea, you preach about not dealing with stupid, but here you are week after week with some of the daftest women I have ever heard..