Lisa Hochstein

Lisa didn't like some of Joanna's comments about her Miami friends.

on Sep 23, 20130

One of Joanna’s friends at the dinner said that she bought a puppy and Joanna got very excited for her. Doesn’t make any sense to me that she would get excited considering that she is all about adopting and protecting animals. Seems she treats people differently not by their actions but by who they are.

We've all had relationships in our lives with a group of friends where there has been a falling out with two of them. The best thing we can do as friends is to support each of them individually and not be forced to let go of one or the other. For the record, I wasn't even trying to be a peacemaker at all on this trip. I simply flew across the country to support Joanna in planning her wedding.

Lea quickly rebuffed me when I brought up Joe Francis by saying that he wasn't there to defend himself, but I wasn't trying to attack him at all. I was simply using the scenario as an example of how Joanna doesn't find anything wrong with Lea and Joe Francis’ relationship, but with me and Adriana she has a problem. That’s a double standard.

The fact is if Joanna does not want me to be in her wedding, I simply don't need to be and I could be perfectly happy with just attending as a guest. Whatever her choice I’ll support it, but I won’t be given ultimatums. Period.

176 comments
Liznorris
Liznorris

At the dinner when Joanna's friend said she bought a puppy I was sitting there waiting for her to freak out on her for not adopting. I was very surprised when it didn't happen. I too thought it seemed like a double standard. I am very passionate about adopting animals and not supporting pet stores, because that is the only way we will ever get these puppy mills shut down. I was very disappointed in her for not speaking up and saying something about it. Based on your blog and Joanna's I'm getting the feeling you two may have had a falling out that we haven't seen yet and you two may not have reconciled yet? That's just the way it seems, I could very well be wrong.

Rebound
Rebound

I agree with your disappointment over the comments.  I'd be pissed off too, quite frankly.  Regarding the wedding, I also replied to Joanna's blog in disapproval of her actions.  Regarding the "hard working" stuff I'll say this:  It's no one's business but yours and Lenny's WHAT you do or do not do with your life.  There is nothing wrong with your current situation and you should not feel the need to justify it to anyone.  You owe no apologies and for a "friend" to put you in such an awkward spot is not, well, very friendly.  You've tried to be as neutral as possible in this season of backstabbing snickering and that is commendable.  You have clearly demonstrated that amongst the pack, you are an independent thinker, not a follower.  Try not to involve yourself so deeply in trying to be a peacemaker though because you know it's going to come back to bite you.  It's nice that you are going to be a bridesmaid in Adrianna's wedding but you should watch it.  She said some terrible, vile things about Joanna and Lea and it's clear that if she'll do it to one, she'll do it to another.  When you piss her off, I'm sure you will be next.  As I wrote in Lea's comments, with a person like A, it's better to friendly, not friends.

jrichar4
jrichar4

I do agree that you shouldn't have to choose sides. However, Adrianna has done and continues to do incredibily horable things to people you care about. I don't see any qualities in Adrianna that would make you want to be her friend.

Abby621
Abby621

Rhom is my favorite show. Proud of you to tell johana her problems w Adrianna are not yours. Ur like the only sane one on the show. Don't change

jorgie
jorgie

Newsflash, none of these women are your friends.. they are self absorbed, materialistic, "characters" not real people. 

patcaseygold
patcaseygold

I also think there is something wrong with using a surrogate because you are only 30 and your husband is so much older. Your very willing to give up the experience just to make him happy. Are you unable to carry a child? No one seems to know why you need a surrogate, just to make your husband be a youngish daddy. If that is why you're doing it, then you are a very kind and loving person to put your deepest  wants aside for your hubby.

patcaseygold
patcaseygold

Do you really think that young women watch this show? This is crazy to come out with another Housewives skin care product. I don't think it will matter if you're not in joanna's wedding . Right call on that one. Just wondering where your feelings will be once this season is over.

scstump1
scstump1

Just what the world needs, another skin care line.  Good luck with that.

cf4
cf4

The posts that I have read kill me. This show is about rich housewives...plain and simple. If you don't like the premise of the show then don't watch it. People watch it to see the lavish lifestyles, parties, and the drama. Why are people acting like these women should be working a 9-5...by definition that is not a housewife. Her job is to take care of her husband and household and her husband can afford for her to do so. Stop hating. Most of you are just mad because you cant afford the things that these women have. If you could, you would be on a vacation right now so quit lying to yourselves. The economy is crap...I understand but since most of you can afford a luxury like cable to watch this show, you are obviously doing ok. If not, cancel your cable and find something else to spend your money on. I know this blog may sound mean but its not meant to be. People need to stop pushing their frustrating lives on others. It's sad.

SoonerGirl
SoonerGirl

I so wish everyone would stop putting her down.  She is a lovely young woman who seems to be in a very good marriage.  If she does not have a "job" by some people's standards I am sure she works very hard and those mean spirited people who say she is living off her husband don't realize that a good marriage takes the best from both partner.  You are a very lovely young woman and seem very kind to others, something which some of those who comment here could learn from.

Sophia74
Sophia74

Plz grow up and get a job!!! Joanna has and still works her ass off. You my dear are living of your hubby.

Deb-chr
Deb-chr

Wow! Where to start? First, you're an adorable girl, young enough to by my daughter and adorable enough that I would be pleased to have you as my daughter.

 

Your In-Laws:

 

On the previous episode regarding your mother-in-law, and with me NOT HAVING SEEN much interaction between you and Lenny and your parents-in-law, I was appalled at Lenny's stark criticism toward his mother AND your use of the 'F-word' in the presence of his parents, especially in the context of a meal, in which you are nourishing your body; a meal should be devoid of negative energy and emotions. Also, I don't feel the F-word should ever be used in the company of anyone other than your closest confidante in a one-on-one basis, and again, that was during a meal and in the presence of your in-laws.  

 

I feel that Lenny should have used a less confrontational approach with his Mom, but I GET that he is frustrated with his mother for mistreating you because he obviously loves you very much.  IF you would extend a loving gesture toward Lenny's mom - it may take several attempts - I feel she would eventually respond very favorably toward you.  Lisa, I feel you could really turn this situation around by giving Marina more than you receive for a while, because you are obviously a loving wife and nurturing-type person.  It's entirely possible that she took you to the Russian deli with the ex-amour's dad in order to show you what she wants from you more than to diss you (an unconscious desire).

 

Please give her a fair chance. You seemed to be focused on "I'm stuck with this bit-h for ten days," and you made her well-aware of your attitude.  I would NEVER be so rude to anyone visiting my home, especially my husband's parents. Anyone can zip-it-up for ten days...

 

You're working on the baby problem and can solve the in-law problem, too so that you life is idyllic

 

Cervical Cerclage:

 

Have you and Lenny ever considered cervical cerclage for an incompetent uterus?  If this procedure is feasible for you, your might be able to experience your child growing inside you.  I've never heard you address the reason you are unable to carry a child to term or the various treatments/techniques you have tried, but I've seen this procedure help women carry a baby to term, in the past.  Maybe the practice is out of favor with the medical community...? Lenny would know!

 

The Real Bitch-s of Miami LOL:

 

Joanna has often appeared to be a callous, calculating troublemaker, but Lea was less obvious and in-your-face, although she is definitely over-the top! lol  I've suspected that Lea manipulates people for maximum drama, while claiming neutrality.

 

After watching a season-plus of RHOM, I have decided (lol, my opinion only), that Lea suffers from - or subjects others to suffer from HER - histrionic personality disorder.  With this, you see attention-seeking behaviors (lively, dramatic, vivacious, enthusiastic and flirtatious) and an excessive need for approval.  Look at her "Before They Were Housewives" photographs on the RHOM website and notice how often Lea is on stage, obviously posed or with a microphone in her hand.  A few examples of this from the show are Elaine, her transexual friend;  the drama of her interaction with her maid and being so 'over the top' with the huge diamonds on the Black Gala episode.  Her gala may have a lot more to do with attention for herself than for her worthy cause. Keep in mind that I'm just a dumba-s RHOM fan.

 

The Hermes Birkin, THE SHOES and What Not::

 

Lisa, I get you, but I don't get the bag!   Actually, the Birkin is gorgeous, but I would not purchase anything that exclusive and expensive for any reason.  I LOVED your shoes, though - and they PERFECTLY matched your very attractive Birkin bag!  I shudder to think how expensive they are after learning the price of the bag! The shoes and bag with that white summer dress was stunning.

 

Good luck to you in you upcoming business launch.  Maybe that will keep Joanna from sending barbs your way (but probably not). 

 

Keep the chin up!

 

Crsteena777
Crsteena777

You are my favorite...good luck with everything!

MomlovesAndy
MomlovesAndy

Hey Lisa:  I think you're a sweetie.  Ignore the haters.  The drama on this and all the shows makes it a show.  If we were all so worried about world hunger and poverty then we wouldn't waste our time watching your show- we should get out and help those less fortunate.  Perhaps some people should consider the concept of a job or move to a place to find one, just like you did. Stop sitting around waiting to be bailed out by others (or the government).  Stop criticizing those who have positioned their lives with hard work and education to be successful.  We love watching your lovely life and wish you are blessed with a baby very soon.  PS:  Let Guiliana and Bill be a surrogacy inspiration to you.  It's beautiful story.

EenerMorts
EenerMorts

FYI Lisa, you don't need Lea to buy a Birkin bag. Authentic bags are sold on eBay, with no waiting lists! Buy to your hearts content.

bobbihall1
bobbihall1

I'd buy a Birkin Bag if I could.  They're beautiful!  I don't think it's fair to judge how people spend their money.  These women seem to give back to the community and also enjoy the finer things in life.  I think that's pretty awesome.  Don't be jealous people.

backgammon
backgammon

I know this will be a shock to you Lisa but None of you live lives of ordinary housewives.

You live a privileged life, full of gifts and a home most people could never afford.

I am new to HWOM but the bunch of you seem like self indulged, pampered, ill tempered children.

If you can't get along with all those friends and all that money,  you are all pathetic.

Do you know there are families who can't even feed their children?  People who have not had a gift in years, people who struggle to get throug the month paying their bills and god forbid if the car breaks down.  My neighbor just had a flat tire and had to stay home until her dad came to buy her a tire.

You may have worked honey, but you have NO idea about the value of anything or of any friendships.

Buck up, being in a wedding of someone you bash isn't even lady like.

JiorJia
JiorJia

Lisa, Joanna's ultimatum is deeply selfish demonstrating her trust issues as well as her desire to 'pit' people against each other.  Lisa, your husband obviously loves you, and I pray you both are blessed with a family soon.

equinox10
equinox10

I think you need to get off the diet and gain some weight if you really want to have a child.  Don't you realize women are meant to have a certain amount of body fat to be able to carry and nourish a baby?  Your husband is a Dr.-he should not be so concerned about your big boobs and rail thin body right now if that what he finds attractive.  Its not important.

 

ReadyBetty48
ReadyBetty48

Lisa, you have to remember how shallow Joanna is and that she is has such a big ego that some times she can hardly stand herself. As far as Joanna's marriage, it is  total sham.

ocdoll
ocdoll

The fact is you aren't hardworking or accomplished.  The truth hurts.

Dreid123
Dreid123

I don't feel bad for you Botox Barbie! Get off the show you and Lerch!

Dreid123
Dreid123

There are people starving in the world and people are spending a ridiculous amount of money for a handbag?!? Really! Shallow much? I bet you walk past a homeless person on the street but you'll pay thousands of dollars for nonsense. I don't get it . One of the handbags could change a persons life. You all should be ashamed! Smh

Gezlouise
Gezlouise

Lisa, I agree with you regarding Lea's reaction to Joe Francis' name being mentioned. Her reaction was so over the top and mean. I saw another side to her that was not to pleasant. BTW, what is it with Lea and Joe Francis?

rudy90210
rudy90210

She asked you to be a brides maid, she didn't ask you, if you're her friend??!

jbey
jbey

Hi Lisa - totally agreed with your post- just because you are a housewife right now does not mean you dont do anything at all and it also doesnt mean you have not worked hard in your past. If you and your husband have decided that you being home is what is right for your family, then that is your personal choice. Joanna should be careful, because one day, she may be trying to have a child and she may decide to become a housewife for awhile to focus on her family. Everyone goes through different stages in life.

Rocky_Grundle
Rocky_Grundle

i know what you were trying to say when you brought up joe francis.  it was clear to me, so it must have been clear to all of those that were actually THERE!  lea, very quickly and in an icy tone, shot down your perfectly suitable metaphor...why?  it's very curious to say the least.  i wouldn't forget that, if i were you...it may foreshadow something devious or unpleasant to come....ps-- be nicer to your mother-in-law, if for no other reason, for Lenny's sake.

janetkath
janetkath

Unfortunately people who are jealous usually make assumptions about the individual they are jealous of.  Johanna obviously wants to be a wife and mother. She probably thinks that  you are sitting around eating bon bon's all day while channel surfing.  I have a sister like that.  She has asked me to help her on several occasions only to find out that she had no intention of using the information she asked me to find for her.  It was her way of giving me something to do since she believes I do nothing all day.  That's what some people believe.  If you don't leave your house to go to a job then you must do nothing but watch TV all day and that's just not the case.  It's sad that some people are like that but that's life.  You get to live your life how ever you want to.  Don't let someone tell you, bully you, or make you feel guilty about it.  It's your life to live not Johanna"s.  Can't wait to hear about your skin care line.

synrvp1
synrvp1

I really like you Lisa, but the whole Birkin bag storyline was over the top for me.  I thought u were better than that.  Yes they hold their value and all but just know that humility is much more becoming... again, getting the bags is fine but to show a whole segment about it just seemed silly...

 

As far as the Joe Francis comment, OMG u hit it on the nail!! that's why Leah so rudely shut u up about that.  So glad you brought it up because THAT friendship is even worse since he is the one that started those comments about Joanna! (Not that it was right of Adriana to continue spreading them, she was just reacting from Joannas childish and bratty behavior)  Glad production left that scene in and u didn't lower yourself to Leahs level by not responding to her... (rolling ur eyes was good tho!)

 

I like you and hope you and ur hubby have a baby soon, EVEN if it is through Surrogacy!! look at Guiliana Rancic and how happy they are!!! Come on Girl just go that route...  :)

kat1129
kat1129

 @jorgie uh Lisa is probably the fakiest of them all!! she's a plastic barbie!

Dreid123
Dreid123

@jorgie And don't forget shallow. Lisa included big time!

Liznorris
Liznorris

@patcaseygold she has said many times that she has had multiple miscarriages and she is unable to carry a baby to full term, that is why they are talking about using a surrogate, not just so she can make Lenny a "youngish" daddy.

Dreid123
Dreid123

@patcaseygold she's been pregnant several times but lost the babies. Poor thing.

Dreid123
Dreid123

@cf4 It is a blog of the viewers feelings. If you don't agree then don't read them. It's that simple!

cf4
cf4

 @Sophia74 And? So she lives off her husband. She is a "housewife" by definition so she doesn't need to work. Jealous much?

Dreid123
Dreid123

@MomlovesAndy No one is hating at all. Perhaps you need to read our posts before you start writing. Speaking as an accomplished business woman I can buy what I want. I am not getting assistance from the government but I would never bash anyone who did. So basically what you're saying that because we watch tv we're not concerned about bigger issues? You have failed to make your point. So, just tell Lisa you're her biggest fan and keep it moving. If you don't like our posts then please exercise your right not to read them. Have a great day!

Hulali
Hulali

 @equinox10

 I was thinking the same thing!  When women are super thin they stop having their period so it makes sense that this could also be a reason why she can't carry a baby to term.  It would be worth the effort to try at least

be@ch
be@ch

 @Dreid123

 As a person who does give to charities, but also loves my bags, I don't understand the flack you're giving her because of the Birkins.  It is money that they (or husbands) earned - and have a right to spend it how they wish.  There's a reason this  show is about women with more luxurious lives - it's a peek into the lifestyle.  If you're a person who lives a frugal life so that you can give all extra earnings to feed the homeless - awesome!  Good for you!  But no need to look down on others because of it. 

Pokadot
Pokadot

@Dreid123 So true!!! Take responbilty for what you are filming , young grls are watching this! Who cares about a pocketbook !! Put on the news, and see what's happening in the world!! Don't you feel guilty spending that much money on something that sits in your closet!, I carry around a burlap "feed bag"" for charity

rosyposy
rosyposy

Dreid123:  It was the fact that they were so impressed with how much money they spent on the bags that was sickening.  It is absolutely their business how much they spend on anything.  However, it exposes low breeding to brag about it.  People born to money would not give it a second thought, much less go on television to brag about it.  They almost had an orgasm over those stupid looking, over priced purses.  It was the most sickening display I have ever witnessed.  I wonder if it ever dawned on them that someone else earned the money they were blowing?

madsharky
madsharky

 @synrvp1

 I agree, another thing to point out about the JF... Lea said he isn't there to defend himself to shut that down and get her off the hot seat.  That never stops them from talking about the ladies they don't like, just sayin' so not an acceptable defense IMHO.

Sophia74
Sophia74

 @cf4  @Sophia74 Oh plz Jealous of what?? Her fake breast and her plastic face. I don't recall asking anyone to put their two cents into a comment I make! 

Dreid123
Dreid123

@be@ch like I said before. Lisa can spend Lenny's money all day long but price dropping like she did with the necklace he gave her is tacky. At the nod of the day it's not about being lucky , it's about being blessed.'the more you give the more you are blessed. Just my beliefs and to each it's own.

UThousewife
UThousewife

 @Pokadot  @Dreid123 It really doesn't matter what they do. Producers will spin it however they want to get whatever story they want. It isn't these housewives responsibility to teach our young girls about social responsibility, it would be the parents job to do that. You really think that it's the reality tv "stars" job to do that? Then young girls will grow up with even more problems.

Dreid123
Dreid123

@Pokadot I know Lea has her gala for charity and Lisa throws this stupid lingerie party which I don't get. They run around in underwear with their breasts hanging out and half of the women who have this terrible disease don't have the money to get reconstructive surgery. Why on earth would they want to watch Lisa and her (so she thinks) perfect breasts running around. This is a serious disease and Lisa in my opinion is a joke. She would get more respect if she had a party with guests that are wearing clothes and charged for a ticket. She just threw a party hoping people would donate if not whatever, you're naked! And now this dingbat is saying she has a "skin care" line after she asked Lenny to bring her some Botox home for her forehead. Smh Now she's having orgasms over a bag. I know it's Lenny's money but I think it's really shallow to brag about it when people are starving and homeless in the world. They should keep that to themselves.

rudy90210
rudy90210

@backgammon .... Sounds to me, like Lisa and Johanna had a falling out partially, because of the bridesmaid discussion. Whereas I would have considered the subject to be one that could have been talked about, and even become one of those "agree to disagree," type of situations. I didn't feel this disagreement warranted a falling out, over. I'm glad they are both friends again. It's always good to have everyone's opinion with this show. Have a nice day!

Rebound
Rebound

 @Sophia74  Well that's the way message boards work, Sophia.  Don't like it, don't post.  Very simple. ;)

Dreid123
Dreid123

@Pokadot I'm sure Adriana doesn't act like that when the cameras aren't following. For her to con Lea she must have been humble, sweet and loyal. Now she's on the show she's acting like everyone is beneath her. Lisa has no professional pictures on the web to back up all this modeling experience she so called has. Alexia lived a life of crime with her ex to get where she is today. God knows what Old Ass Marysol has done. My point being that it's all for the show. Ana was the realist on the show but I guess she thought she was boring so she decided to attack Lea for no reason at all. They didn't say more than ten words to each other and she went after her to stay relevant. Epic fail! Now she's washing Roberts tighty whiteys again and has been bumped off the show. Lisa knows Lenny is not having it with those pocket books so she should sit down somewhere and stop the foolishness

Pokadot
Pokadot

@Dreid123 Yes, you are so right, if they are going to act like that ( shallow) I agree ,keep it private, don't be proud of it, like they were acting. My bet is this, it's all for show, they want people to do exactly what we are doing. So we keep on watching,.... There is no way these women can be this shallow, right? My point is, take responibilty for who is watching, young impressionable girls ( my daughter) I quess they don't care, and that makes them shallow!