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The whole conversation between Teresa and Kathy was crazy. Why not just say hello? I don’t understand the combative attitude; say what you want, Kathy extended an olive branch and it was shoved in her face. Makes no sense. Maybe I’m crazy, but then again, maybe I’m not…
All in all the party went off with only a few bumps along the way – well, almost… See you next week!
Sorry Caroline, I luv ya, but kathy kept pushing the "Hello". she wanted an outburst and Teresa stayed calm. Teresa didnt call her cousin a f*(&^@* bitch, that was Kathy.
I disagree. Kathy kept pushing until she got the response that she wanted. Teresa was cordial and Kathy kept on pushing and pushing and THEN got mad when she finally reacted? Give me a break. It is pretty clear from the blogs lately though that all of you have ditched Teresa for Melissa. That's really sad considering how clearly two-faced Melissa is.
Kathy came to that party trying to mend fences...again, but as you said before, she keeps choosing the wrong time and place for this, its almost like she wants to do it in front of people to paint Teresa as the bad guy. Kathy said Hello, you look beautiful, how are they kids blah blah to Teresa, and Teresa responded graciously, but Kathy kept pushing, so since Teresa doesn't like to be fake, its just not her, she lashed back at Kathy. I thought Teresa did nothing wrong. Kathy likes to put this peacemaker holier than now persona on, but I'm not buying it.
I do agree.... why not just leave it at a simple hello. That was not the right time nor place to deal with things that happened. Kathy did approach her she responded but she went on to something else. KIm G was out of place.....
Caroline I really like you, and always agree with your advice. I guess I am a little disappointed tonight when you add some judgement into Teresa's reaction to Kathy. If you're truly neutral, I think you could see that maybe Teresa was not ready to forgive, but she did try to be cordial initially. Let them figure out what was wrong, but I think by saying Teresa rejected the olive branch, its sort of a short sighted, in the moment judgement, not one that takes into account what is going on in the big picture.
I am sensing some growing tension between you and Teresa during the season and it seems to have grown since the season ended. I am sorry to hear - because I feel you two were great friends.
Caroline I must say.........I am always happy to hear your advice. You have all the right answers. Love you.
Usually I agree with you but tonight I must disagree slightly regarding Kathy's "olive branch" was almost PUSHED down Teresa's throat, my viewpoint: Kathy continued trying to stick it in Teresa's face when KATHY should have spoken and left.. she didn't. Take another look Caroline :) I believe Kathy meant to get Teresa stirred up and blamed for "drama".
I don't know if you saw something different than me with regards to Teresa and Kathy, but I saw Kathy as aggressive. She said hi, Teresa said hi, then Kathy kept at her in a snide way continuing to "greet" her until Teresa finally broke. And when I say broke, Teresa kept it pretty well under control. You have to admit, whether it's the Giudice's fault or not (and it probably is), they were going through a very difficult time then and it was being played out in public. I hope that never happens to you or your family. I'm not sure how excited I'd be to go to a party with all of that drama in my life. I would hope that with so many people there wishing me ill, that my true friends would stick by me.
I did like the way that the Gorgas stepped up. That was very loyal of them. It was nice to see that. So far, what we've seen is the Gorgas obsessing about Teresa and saying negative things.
But Caroline, don't you think its ironic that kathy only tries to talk to Teresa at an event! Why is that? Don't you think WRONG PLACE WRONG TIME? Its a pattern with Kathy! She only appeared to be extending an olive branch. And the things kathy has said about Teresa! Kathy is fake!!!!
Caroline, THANK YOU! for stepping up and calling it like it is with Teresa! She showed her true colors tonight, I am tired of reading about people telling her to 'keep her head up', and that she 'keeps it real'. Are they blind??? What I wanted to see was if her true friends like Jacqueline and Caroline are going to call her on her behavior at the reunion! The nerve of her to throw orders around at Melissa and Joe at their party, their house! A loving sister would want peace and would want her 'families' party to go well, why not be an adult and suck it up for her 'family'?? Everyone is extending themselves and bending over backwards to make things right, everyone is humbling themselves and taking accountability except Teresa! She is walking around like everyone owes her something! The way she treated Kathy 'family' tonight was horrific, I am so over her and her friends need to stop enabling her behavior and calling her out. She is clearly a liar and has some serious issues.
Sorry Caroline. This time I have to disagree with you. Teresa was trying to be cordial. Their issues are deeper than something that can be discussed and resolved at a party. If Kathy cared so much why didn't she call her and try to set up a meeting of the two of them alone? Just like at the fashion show Kathy always chooses the wrong venue to have these deep conversations. I think Kathy was wrong.
P.S. What is up with Kathy only wanting to talk to Teresa in public places? You think that's okay? What's wrong with inviting her to lunch and discussing it in private?
Call ME crazy, but you know Kathy could have stopped over to Teresa's house and buried the hatchet looooooong before this Christmas party. Parties in someone elses house (even if it is a relative) are neither the time nor the place for hatchet burying. Just my two cents worth.
Caroline,
Why can Kathy schedule time to make amends with you, a person she doesn't know, but not her cousin? That's what made Teresa angry and I cannot believe you don't see that. If she truly wanted to make amends, she could have picked up the phone or gone to her home. Perhaps Kathy's desire to be in your good graces is coloring your "good judgment"
Teresa was somewhat combative. I do think she should have handled this situation better and many situations, but I can't help but be confused as to why Teresa has to constantly apologize and Melissa and Joe don't have to answer to calling her garbage and the many other jabs Melissa took at Teresa.
Caroline, what?? Kathy was stirring up trouble she didn't accept the initial greetings and teresas boundaries. You can't force yourself on people like Danielle on deena. People need to move on at their own pace and not be put on the spot. Also maybe Teresa is fine with the way things are with her cousin. They dont have to be best friends and in fact Kathy seems to be causing a problem between Teresa and Melissa.
Personally I think Kathy always picks the wrong place and time to talk to Teresa. When Teresa acknowledged the hello Kathy gave her, that should have been it, but as usual Kathy pushed the issue, wrong place wrong time so for me that was not extending an olive branch and of course as usual she walked away playing the victim role so well. Caroline I really think u are watching a completely different show from the rest of us.
I saw the situation between Teresa and Kathy the same way you saw it. Your not crazy Kathy extended the olive branch and Teresa threw it right back to her It was mean and nasty on Teresa's part, I sure wasnt surprised by it after watching the way she behaved since season 1 I expected it. What I see is she's getting worse and worse with her behavior. It was sad to see Kathy so upset by it, it's Teresa's lose.
Used to love you...now I cannot stand your one-sided comments. You claim to not take sides but we see through your passive aggressive comments. Your sister was very loyal when she was on Andy Cohen's show but you must feel very differently; your negativity toward Teresa is annoyingly apparent and frustrating when not explained. You have to realize your advice in any area is not near as credible when you can be so evidently biased. Not a huge Teresa fan, but she is going through a lot (albeit much brought on by herself) and her sister-in-law, brother, and cousin came on tv and constantly kick her while she is down and you have done nothing but condone their behavior while knocking Teresa.
Kathy, you can't force a relationship with Teresa when she obviously doesn't want it. Stop at Merry Christmas and the toast and leave it alone. Teresa has more problems than worrying about whether you are her friend or not. We all have relatives we don't like. Deal with it. You aren't her favorite.
What I saw was Kathy keep going at Tre! She could of said Merry Christmas and walked. But to go around telling everyone calling Tre a bitch is not in the spirit of the season. Seems Melissa's family like starting too. The comment by the brother-in-law was bang out of order. The bracelets were beautiful. Wonderful symbol of family.
I am really beginning to hate reading your blogs. They are very one-sided and obviously you now have issues w/ Teresa. Did you not see the conversation between Kathy and Teresa? Teresa was cordial, but Kathy kept going on and on. Kathy then ran around the house lying about the conversation.If Kathy really wants to make amends call Teresa, stop by her house. Don't walk up to her saying I'm doing this b/c I'm a good Christian and pray for me. That totally cheapens the effort and makes the intent questionable.
I just thought that you were bigger than this foolishness.
I am really beginning to hate reading your blogs. They are very one-sided and obviously you now have issues w/ Teresa. Did you not see the conversation between Kathy and Teresa? Teresa was cordial, but Kathy kept going on and on. Kathy then ran around the house lying about the conversation.If Kathy really wants to make amends call Teresa, stop by her house. Don't walk up to her saying I'm doing this b/c I'm a good Christian and pray for me. That totally cheapens the effort and makes the intent questionable.
I just thought that you were bigger than this foolishness.
P.S. Kathy had to go there.. at a Christmas party.. Kathy not have opportunities prior to December to reach out? Kathy is an instigator but Teresa held it together as civil as possible.. I know that had to be hard for her. Think about it.
Sheesh, you are trying so hard to be a tough old bird, but you know what we do with tough old birds? We make them into stew! Give up your unwanted advice, Godfather-like aspirations and enjoy roosting on your nesting box watching your flock so you can avoid the stew pot for a few more years!
Um, Teresa did just say hello. She was polite, but also uncomfortable and it was clear she didn't want to deal with Kathy at that moment. There's a time and a place for everything, and if someone makes it clear they don't want to get into it right then, don't push it. A big lesson everybody has to learn is that just because you're ready to make amends, the other person needs to be allowed to get to that place in their own time, especially in front of a crowd, many of whom are hostile. Kathy should have just accepted Teresa's greeting and walked away.
Caroline, I know you've chosen your "side",so it may be hard for you to empathize with Teresa, but she and Kathy are cousins. If Kathy wanted to talk to Teresa, she could have long time ago and not only at functions. She could go to Teresa away from cameras or extend a phone call. Its not the time or place when your cousin goes and befriends someone you don't get along with a let everyone bad mouth her and not step in and say something. If Kathy wanted to extend an olive branch, she could have LONG TIME AGO in a sincere way. NOT always at a function in front of everyone to "prove" she is the bigger person!
I think Kathy knew exactly what she was doing when she went up to Theresa and it wasn't extending an olive branch. She could see the hesitation and awkwardness at the beginning and the initial conversation could have ended pleasantly there but Kathy had to keep beating her down in this condescending way and Theresa took the bait. A simple hello on both their ends would have sufficed, i blame them both and so should you. I don't get your attitude with Theresa at all
I think Kathy knew exactly what she was doing when she went up to Theresa and it wasn't extending an olive branch. She could see the hesitation and awkwardness at the beginning and the initial conversation could have ended pleasantly there but Kathy had to keep beating her down in this condescending way and Theresa took the bait. A simple hello on both their ends would have sufficed, i blame them both and so should you. I don't get your attitude with Theresa at all
I enjoyed tonight's episode, and I completely agree with you Caroline. Big up to Joe & Melissa for holding it down for Tre when Monica showed up. Honestly, Kim G has some balls, I can't believe that after someone cordially asks you to leave...you stand there and debate with them. To me it shows no respect. As soon as they told her it's time for Monica to go it should have been the end right there. I really like Theresa but I'm starting to see some of the petty side come through especially about the hair dresser...who cares. I was disappointed on how she responded to Kathy..it could have been squashed at that moment. Kathy was actually nice and respectful so I hope Theresa can just let it go and make up with Kathy.
Again love love love your advice and the dynamics in your family. I hope to accomplish that same type of relationship and strength with my own family someday.
Carolline, please stop sticking up for the Gorgas......its obvious that these people treat Teresa like garbadge and she is trying to just disconnect from them......
Caroline
If Kathy wants to fix her friendship with Teresa, she needs better timing. The fashion show at the Brownstone and the Gorga's Christmas party is neither the time or place to mend fences. Why doesn't she invite Teresa over to her house for coffee to discuss their situation. She was willing to make a trip to your house after the fashion show when she didn't know you all that well. I don't blame Teresa.
Ita with you on all basis...I loved the idea if the family Christmas gifts you ordered...Loved it! As for Kathy I feel for her she has done NOTHING but be loving & supportive to Teresa or tried to any way & the pain in her eyes & the sadness is so heartbreaking to see. SHE ABSOLUTELY DID TAKE CARE OF THOSE KIDS WHEN THE FIGHTING WAS GOING ON! Teresa was over by Joe (her Joe), as Kathy grabbed the kids...she should be THANKED in my opinion not treated so badly.As you said maked no sense. It is time to get over it & move on...blood should stick together, no matter what...Kathy never said Teresa was a neglectful mother, Teresa never takes responsibility for anything she does. Her description of what happened between her and Monica C. at the courthouse was a lie...Joes was the accurate account of what she did. It was so out of place and out of line and it could hurt their case...she glossed over it to Jacqueline. She needs to look at herself and Joe's situation without rose color glasses and Do whatever it takes to get it done & over with...again this is all jimho! You Rock!
And then this is the same cousin who came on the show, for what?? To ruin/embarrass Teresa and steal her friends along with Melissa? There's no loyalty with Kathy. It means sooo much more when an apology or olive branch is sincere. You can't come on a show with shady motives and then just because you say "hello" you deserve a cookie because you were being the "bigger" person and extending an olive branch. That's the way I see it and maybe if you put yourself in Teresa's shoes, you may understand.
I think it was nice of Kathy to go say hello to Teresa but should've just left it at that. She knew how Teresa would react and should've talked to her alone at another time. Teresa was cordial and Kathy kept pushing it. About that old hag Kim G, who I hate even mentioning because she doesn't deserve anyones time, but how dare she bring someone who she's knows will just start drama! She only brought her because she knew Teresa would get upset and that Monica woman didn't have any reason to be there, it was a Christmas party. Kim G is disgusting and that lawyer should have known better. Shame on them both! Melissa and Joe should've only had to tell them once to leave. Classless!!
In the case of Kathy and Teresa I think that confronting someone at a party is a no no for anyone. The Housewives of NY is a another example as to what can happen.
Family discussions should be done in a personal setting or it shows lack of restraint and disrespect. A phone call to arrange a meeting, anything other than at a gathering! Olive branch or not.
I love you Caroline. But I have to say that Kathy did not have to say that over and over again and she knew it because in her retelling of the story, she failed to mention that Teresa did acknowledge her 'hellos' three times. Enough already. And you should know better than anyone else that kathy seems to pick the wrong time to talk to Teresa. And I agree with Teresa - Why now? Just because Melissa and Teresa have made an attempt, now she wants to. At the fashion show, she wanted to point out what Teresa did wrong. She wasn't trying to mend anything then. Its not her issue. And it doesn't have to be resolved at a party. She could have called her weeks before the party if she really wanted to do that. In fact, on the way there, she and Rich (and I love him) but they already had the attitute that Teresa was going to do something and they watched the door for her to come in. I hope you are watching the rerun now. She baited Teresa and it was wrong. Then she went around trying to get the whole party mad at her.
Caroline - I really used to like you but I don't like the way you interpret the whole situation with Teresa. You are a backstabber!!! Why didn'y you point out when her family members were rude to her? Even if she was rude to Kathy, why didn't you comment on how totally inappropriate their comments were in the bedroom?? Seriously, what do you have against her? I have lost all respect for you even though you used to be my favorite! Shame on you!!
I think you're totally wrong about the altercation between Kathy and Theresa. The conversation went fine up until Kathy kept repeating "it's good to see you, NO, it's really good to see you". The way she was saying it over and over again seemed very confrontational. Why do that at a party, again? She did the same mistake at the fashion show. If she really wanted to extend that so called olive branch, why not do that at another place, just the two of them? Why always in public? Everything would have been fine if Kathy just stopped when they complemented each other and let it be. I always respected you as a mother and still do, but I don't think you are much of a friend, at least to Theresa. How can you side so quickly with someone that she feels has hurt her so badly? Are you watching the episodes? Both Kathy and Melissa are totally bad mouthing Theresa in the worst ways possible and I can't say that I see the same from Theresa. How can you take Kathy's side tonight? She was in the wrong. Also, Lauren's comment about not wanting to sit next to Ashley at Ashley's party wasn't very nice. Is that how cousins are suppose to treat each other? I don't think so. Maybe that's what's bothering Ashley - you don't need a lot of family, just family that actually loves and respects you enough to not say something nasty - at least when the cameras are rolling.....
Kim G needs to not be aloud to be on this show. I don't know why the Gorga's did not throw her out when she started to argue with them about who is aloud in their home. I would have told her right then and there she needs to leave as well. I don't know anyone talks to this woman.
The little digs you have been giving Teresa this season have not gone unnoticed. You need to stop. She had this show as her gig and it was encroached on by the wretch melissa and krazy kathy..and now you are lowering yourself to danielle's level to be mean to teresa in blogs and on the tv show. STOP this is not the classy caroline you have been in the last two seasons. Dina is your sister and godmother to teresa's daughter and her bff, respect that and stay out of being mean. Theresa had your back and your family's during the danielle drama have hers please! Please go back to the noce, loyal caroline who holds everyone together. You have been rude in com,ments about their spending, fight in the family etc. stop I do not like you bc of it now and you were my fav before
Oh brother, here you go again. What was the reason for your scowl and "Where's Teresa?" at the party? It was Melissa and Joe's party, remember? YOU ARE A DRAG. You're dying to stick your nose in and be relevant, but please just STAY OFF-CAMERA!
I think it was awesome the way joe and melissa stood up for teresa. with everything going on that was a really sweet thing to do. As for the kathy thing... She made the effort to say hello ofcourse things are tense, in teresa defense she did say good to see you and ask about her kids. It was kathy that kept pushing an already tense time.. she should have walked away after that and then tried again aliitle later(everything in small doses). But she kept pushin. She got the reaction she wanted and then ran and told people how she was treated badly. sorry not how i see it.. there both wrong in holding a grudge but she was pushing it.
Caroline I Absolutly Love You, Your One Of My Favorite Housewives Ever! I Love Reading Your Blogs Every Week Cuz You Say It Like You Mean It. I Felt Bad For Your Daughter When Albie & Chirs Moved Out And On Their Own Cuz I Know You All Are A Tight Knit Family And I Know You Daughter, Albie & Chris Are Close As Well So It's Hard, But Like You Said That's Life You Have To Accept Changes And Move On! I Also Think The Christmas Party At Melissa's House Everything Looked So Beautiful But I Was Kinda Upset This Week At Teresa Because No Matter What Kathy And Teresa's Problem's Are It's The Holidays, A Time Of Togetherness And Love Not Time To Fight And Like You Said All Teresa Had To Do Was Say Hello And Be Nice And She Wasn't Nice At All. Also, I Was So Mad That Kim G Showed Up At Melissa's House Who Would Invite That Slime Bucket To Anything? She's Evil And A Dirty Snake I Hate Her! And Then To Bring Monica With Her, She Knows She Was Just Trying To Start Drama. Caroline I Love You Always, God Bless You And Your Family Always!





Carolyn, I almost always agree with you but look at the clip again concerning Kathy and Tre....Kathy just kept coming back. Tre was polite the first two times but geez, it was watching a gnat buzzing around a bulb. This was not the place for Kathy to start up a conversation....
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