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So there you have it folks... The moment you've all been waiting for. Ugly, don't you think? What is there to say as you watch a friendship disintegrate and a family destroyed? I got nothing...
See you at the reunion.
I have to say Caroline has always been one of my favourite HW's until this season. I do not like Teresa and agree with a lot of what Caroline said but I do have to wonder if Caroline may have an agenda here with punishing Teresa for the situation with her sister?
I am not taking Teresa's side because she was so wrong on so many levels but it was like Caroline made it her mission to destroy her this last season and I think that is why it came across as bullying by some viewers..
One thing everyone should know especially about Italian families...if your not blood don't come between blood....cause you WILL LOSE.
Caroline is just jellious of Teresa. Teresa is a real italian, and the Manzo's do not even look italian, they keep on talking about how itilian they are, oh come on. Teresa has a cookbook, in a magazine and all other woman are raging jellious. And you move a millian dollar house because of being called a stripper come on. Melisa is acting the victim oh boo hoo
Anyone who has truly been bullied knows you are not a bully. Trying to rationalize with an irrational person (Teresa) is an exercise in futility.
YOU!!! I LOVE YOU! Caroline you remind me a lot of myself. You're no bully! You just are honest and don't put up with BS! I get it. You have an awesome husband and kids! Keep calling out the BS and stay true to your self and those you love.
If they keep Teresa and let Caroline go, I am through with this show. And from what I read I am not the only one. I can not stand to watch Teresa one more episode, let alone all season. Let that be the reason.
Caroline, I love your honesty and your continous attempts to keep the peace while being real and abt family. I so understand where your heart is because I too have borne the brunt of being the messenger. Most folks just want to hear why they are right and everyine else is wong. You are so NOT a bully, you are beautiful, honest and LOVING, so LOVING. I know you said you didn't like how you came across this season but YOU are and will always be the REAL deal to me and a whole bugesnch of people I know. You are who you are andthere are a lot of folks of all ages, sizes and colors who really realy appreciate YOU. To Thine Own Self, Be True...look up Shakespeare's quote. It so is about you. You wil always be a very special person to me and I'm sure, a whole lot of other people. Best to you and your family always!
Caroline interfears in peoples lifes, ohh do you see her husband he sleeps to keep her out of his ears.
caroline you hang in there,I think you held up pretty good in spite of the evil person on the show you are one of the reasons i watch so let people say what they want you are honest and its so ovious you have a big heart
Im so sorry all the girls are tearing each other apart. I think the problem is all the magazine articles. i wouldn't even read them if I was you. Stay away from toxic Tereasa.
Hi Caroline... Love You Love You Love You.
I loved how Lauren put Tre in her place tonight on Part #1 of the Reunion show - "BRAVO Lauren!"
caroline i love you all ...your family is great. i wish you folks were in my corner. i got where your head was this season.....it was a hard season....you were as about as graceful a you could be under all that mess. best wishes to you
Since Bravo has played the last few episodes several times, I have been able to see the face off between Caroline and Teresa again without feeling the drama. Besides having watched the drama that is Teresa throughout the years, there was a moment during the fight that I finally knew for sure she was lying. Did anyone else catch the part where she tried to bring her husband into the fight; she was about to ask him if she was lying and cut it short, instead asking if the book thing was intentional. Only a liar would be afraid for the answer to that question. I'm saddened that Carline is being painted in such a bad light because of this woman's lies. Caroline, I get it. You can only take so many trips to crazy town before it starts to wear on you. I just hope you wear off on the other girls, and they start dis-owning her too!
Bravo Please take note:
I just came home from a hard days work and put the tv on to Bravo to see whats on. I see Caroline yelling at Teresa during the Napa trip. This was the first time since the Napa episode I watched a repeat. Previously I use to watch the repeats atleast 3 times aweek. I started getting anxiety attacks just watching her. My heart started pounding and frantically kept trying to change the channel. This goes to show if I am suffering like this watching Caroline on tv just imagine what other people must be going through. So Please please please Bravo for the love of your viewers please dont have caroline. I CANNOT WATCH HER ANYMORE!!!
Leah008 You don"t know what you are saying. Tre is out of control only Carolina can put her in her place.
Caroline believes if she says something enough times, people are stupid enough to believe her. I loved her in the first seasons, but now, she just comes off as a bitter, emotionally unhappy person. I think she truly hates that no matter what Teresa has hurled in her direction, she pulls her self up at by bootstraps, plasters a smile on her face, and figures a way to resolve it.
Get real Teresa is out of control. Bravo needs Carolina to put her in her place. Besides who wouldn't be upset to have to work with someone like Teresa.
You have a husband that loves you and children that still admire you. Let it go. Move on with your family. Then maybe you and Dina can act like sisters again away from the cameras. The show is putting pressure on your daughter do you want to lose her too, like your sister. Instead of a band around the stomach you should put your arms around your husband and daughter. That will last longer than an instant fix
Success is the best revenge, just ask Tre!
Unfortunately for you, I doubt you will ever get your revenge.....
bravo, you light my life
You have a great husband, great kids and a really good life, please move on from all this ugliness, and above all if I may be so presumptuous as to give you "advise" forgiveness is not for the other person, it's for you, for you to heal and be able to move on... My best to you, I really like you a lot.
Caroline - You are smart enough, experienced enough and principled enough not to put up with lies and backstabbing without speaking out against them. Good for you! I'm a fan and always will be. You-know-who's passive-aggressive behavior is so obvious to anyone with an ounce of intelligence. And why the heck she keeps using the excuse "they're all jealous" is beyond me. Jealous of what? She's raising ill-mannered kids, has a forehead that's an inch high, fake boobs, a cheating husband, and is deeply (maybe criminally) in debt. Add that to her mangled English, pornographic behavior in the vineyards, and denial of her true motives, well, who in the heck would want to be her? At least you and Jacqueline have real lives with loving husbands and children to return to when the spotlight disapears as this show finally self-destructs.
Caroline, what a beautiful person you are and your whole family, I get it! I'm a single mother but have my family's values also, and I'm proud of my family, myself and my daughter its the morals, self respect and respect toward others that make a beautiful person you become.
I still find it outrageous that Melissa and Kathy came on the show on Teresa's heels and would never acknowledge that if she hadn't paved the way with the show and cookbook, neither of them would have the opportunity to pursue their dreams of baking and singing. It is so shady for family members you aren't speaking to to show up where you're working without telling you. I don't blame Teresa for feeling insecure and wanting Jaq and Caroline to have her back when these "family" members showed up. I think Teresa definetly took it all too far in the things she said behind their backs, but they were talking about her too. This is all about jealousy and being bitter with Teresa for her success with her books. The magazines are trash and everyone knows it. They could have expressed their dissapointment to Teresa about it and moved on. They act like she's committed some crime. I don't know why the public or any of their fans don't demand that Mel and Kathy own up to the fact that if it weren't for Teresa paving the way, we wouldn't know who they were. They sit there so innocently, like they are just nice housewives, and it makes me sick. Teresa went from hanging around with nothing to do like the rest of them, to big time success, and its jealousy, from the family and Caroline and Jaq that has fueled this whole mess.
I do think Teresa is wrong for what she wrote in the cook bk, and I do admire Caroline for sticking to her guns and not letting Tre off the hook for it, but Caroline's anger is way out of proportion to what Tre actually did. Just another jealous person in the group.
melsweet Ok I agree with some of what you are saying regarding Melissa and Kathy not being on the show if not for Teresa but Teresa could have stopped all this by simply not doing interviews in trashy magazines. At the end of the day family is the most important thing in life and success and fame might make life easier from a financial aspect but the way Teresa is heading she is going to be a very lonely lady.
It's hard to say exactly Tre's invovlement or how much she knew about the "set-up". What do we know about the shady bald guy? Not much. Kim D on the other hand we know does not like Melissa /Joe G,said some pretty nasty things to them but Tre is still friends with her. Tre's actions during and after do not reflect that of someone who is trying to work on rebuilding a broken family relationship She did not speak up for/stand by her family or defend Melissa. Did we not just witness Melissa/Joe standing by and denfending Tre after Napa? I don't understand why it matters now to Tre or why it needs to be exposed what Melissa did or did not do in the past? She is married to Tre's brother and they have a family NOW. That should be what is important to Tre but this last episode shows it's pretty clear that family is not a priority to her. I love Caroline! This last season did show another side that wasn't her best but we all have one. Caroline along with several others have reach the breaking point with Tre. I think Caroline says how she sees it and isn't worried if it makes her look good or bad. She stays true to that and herself even if its not popular. Caroline has a strong view and opinion others can't handle. It keeps going back to Caroline's family relationships. While there are problems, when has Caroline ever talked about or done anything to her family on camera for the world to see like Tre has done to her's? I don't think Caroline is perfect or has no blame here and she owns that. Tre on the other hand does not. She takes zero blame for anything,continues to stir the pot and points it back on everyone else. Pretty sad to witness a 40 yr old spiral down not seeing she is the cause of her own failure.
OMG!! What a season this year!! Sad to see the dark side of Caroline :( But I am happy to hear her own it. There are people that can bring the best of us into Crazy Town!
Hang in there Caroline! You knew you would be proven right, even though you really didn't want to be right. Teresa has finally shown the world what a backstabbing lying snake she is. I feel sorry for her because once the kids and the husband are gone, not having those friends/family that stood beside her through all the financial crap is going to be VERY lonely for her. You stood your ground but let it all play out on it's own, which is exactly what should have happened. Jacqueline NEEDED to be burned by her in order to finally see what a terrible friend Teresa is to her. I adore you and Jacqueline (melissa and kathy too) and wish I was in that circle with you! :) I wish you and your family all the best and nothing but success and happiness in the future.
kathi.mcmichael No....the world does not now think that about Teresa, though you want it to be true because you hate Teresa! You're entitled to your opinion. It's not mine! Too bad the rest of the cast turned on Teresa. They brought themselves down in the process...and we as viewers rejected them because of it!
The way Teresa acted is despicable to say the least, why TV companies and other organisations are giving her so many opportunities is beyond me, why would you want a foul mouthed brainless witch to front any product campaign you were thinking of running, somebody needs to stop her, she will not be happy until she runs people and their lives into the ground, just so she can say I told you so !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What is it you have been saying all season Don Caroline? "Read between the lines", "read between the lines". One started to believe that there actually was something terrible Teresa had don to you all. I was like: Did she kill somebody at the end?????
But now when all is said and done, it was nothing. Accusations, lies, paranoia and tales told from bitter cast mates.
I pity you all.
I would like to see all of you (Teresa included) go do something else and new housewives step in.
It can´t be worse.
Women in general are not that mean to one another.
Thank´s for nothing but aggravation and waste of my time.
I don't believe everything I see and read but maybe just maybe this is true--a season 5 shake up for RHNOJ!......"Jacqueline [Laurita] and Kathy [Wakile] were not made offers, so Jacqueline won’t be back but look for Kathy to return in a limited capacity. Currently three [new] women are under consideration to join the cast. Caroline Manzo was made an offer to return and declined — it is possible she is waiting for a bigger offer or has something up the pipelines. She had only participated in season 4 so that her children would get exposure for their business ventures.”
Teresa was on Anderson Cooper twice this week and she said she doesn't know about season five yet
Caroline, you used to be my favorite housewife. I thought you were so wise and had your life together. This season has changed my mind, though. You have made both of your sons clingy mama's boys, you are jealous of their girlfriends, you insinuate that your daughter is unattractive, and you cannot get along with several of your siblings. Your husband seems bored out of his mind with you. AND we could all see this season that you are an angry, bitter woman who loves to start trouble anytime she can. I don't particularly care for Theresa, but I didn't think she tried to "Set Up" Mellissa. You had no proof of it either but you escalated the situation. You had no business sticking your nose in. You need as much or more help than anyone on the show. Get yourself some counceling, and stop counselling others!
Caroline, why did you say to Joe Gorga, as you hugged him, you came to the fashion show for him and Melissa? What did you mean by that? You usually pass on the fashion show. I think you let the cat out of the bag that you knew what was going to happen and that's why you went.
You are my FAVORITE...Love you honesty, loyalty, and straight-forwardness....please, please, please DON'T CHANGE!!!
She only values honesty and straight forwardness when she is the one dishing it out. When it is pointed at her, she goes ballsitic.
Case in point: she can make fun of Lauren's weight and say she is fat, but when Teresa turns the tables on her, Caroline explodes and puts it all over twitter how despicable teresa is.
She can judge and deride Teresa endlessly for not getting along with her brother, she can talk about Teresa and Joe's problems with everyone in town and expect Teresa to answer to her and justify the family issues, and extoll the virtues of family. But if anyone, including Andy Cohen, brings up her estrangement with Dina nd her other siblings, Caroline declares, "Not talking about this. Next!"
She can dish it out but she can't take it. Hypocrite.
OctoberGirl27 Now that you're best friends w/ her-highness, don't turn your back or that knife she wields so often and loosely will be in your back! especially when her judgement deems you unworthy of life and love! Thank God she isn't in VA.
Thank you for sharing your family's experience with all the world watching. I do understand why you checked out emotionally this season and as a fan of all The Real Housewives of NJ I'm sadden that a family would injure one another intentionally for money or fame.
My younger sister has struggled all her life with her weight. She is now a mother of two, a special education elementary school teacher, and an excellent wife, but still unable to see her beauty. Your child's story touched my heart.
agoody2shoes REDF B.S,! She stayed out of as much of the drama as possible while still having to do events with Teresa and Joe, even though she clearly didn't want to be around her. She did MUCH better than I would have, I can tell you that. I can't stand to be in the same room with someone like Teresa, much less have to go on vacation and all the bravo events and taping the show with her too. Cudos to Caroline for actually keeping her cool as much as she did!
ANd you seem to forget that there were four of them making nasty remarks about Theresa. She was bombarded by all of them and some are supposed to be her family. I understand Carolyn because she is such a mean nasty woman, but the others!
Caroline, you are a wise and wonderful person and a great mom never let anyone like Teresa bring you down. Love all of you ladies except Teresa!
Have only seen the previews but Melissa is right to tell T not to talk about looks. However, the stress is showing on you, You need to let go of all this anger you have in you. You always seem to have to have a target. Sometimes it is your own daughter that you are so critical of. If you felt the need to distance yourself from T than so be it. But why does EVERYONE have to follow suit? When T talks about your sons jobs it was funny how you were so easily taken off topic. You were about to "school" T AGAIN. How quickly you forgot about defending them. Your famous "Let me tell you something" is getting old and all T had to do was criticize you and you forgot all about them. I for one would never take advice from you concerning parenting. Looks to me like your sons only worked at the Brownstone and failed at all their other attempts. I am not saying that anyone is perfect but geeze all you ever do is pick at people. And someone should warn Melissa and Kathy, cause it won't be long before one of them is no longer on your good side. I was really surprised when Melissa told you that you looked like you were playing the victim. And asked you why an apology wasn't enough. Seems like that was the moment you decided to separate Melissa and T. UH OH cause it looked like Melissa might have a mind of her own?????