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Closing a Horrible Chapter

Bethenny reflects on her relationship with her father.

May 5, 2010

 

I wasn't surprised to see how upset Jill was at LuAnn's event. She decided that she was completely done with me, she regretted it, and she didn't like that she was the last one to know everything that was going on in my life.

I believe that Jill wanted to patch things up with me, but her motives are questionable. There have been so many events that have transpired, and I have to stand by my current feelings. I really want to be happy and positive during this incredible time. I really don't want to get mired in the roller coaster drama of the show. My entire perspective and priorities have changed since Jill and I became friends, and I have to respect my relationship and where I am in my life. I am simply following my heart and hope that Jill one day finds the happiness that she needs in her life.

Everything Ramona said when I called her on the way to see my father was totally spot on. We often know the truth, but we simply want to hear someone else say it. Our circumstances with our fathers are definitely different, yet losing a parent with a tumultuous history between you is something very difficult. I appreciate her listening and I thought her input was sincere.

I would never have been even remotely resolved in my life (I'm only part of the way there, btw) had I not made that visit. I can't sugar coat it. It was brutal. My father really wasn't very kind to me, I experienced a lot of anger, resentment and sadness, and it was complete torture. That said, it did close a horrible chapter for me. For that I am grateful.

 

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Hi Bethanny-I just wanted to say that I really sympathize with you on the whole "absent father" situation.I have an eleven year old who's father refuses to meet her,yet he acts like father of the year to the two children he has with his wife.Watching your show inspires me because you grew up without a father yet you didn't let that stop you from becoming a sucessful adult.I wish you the best and congrats on your beautiful baby girl!!

My father is still alive and still a very selfish person. He is 96 and has definitely overstayed his welcome on this earth. I have tried to be of assistance to him, but like so many of the elderly, he thinks I want his money, despite the fact that he has none. He is in a home these days and making trouble there as well. Don't have any regrets, as your father was the loser in the relationship, not you. Your child will show you what it means to really be a loving parent and the joy that will come from her will block out any bad experiences you have had. Enjoy her, as time goes by all too fast.

Bethenny I just wanted to let you know that I so can relate to your relationship or not having a relationship with your family/father. I am in the exact same position with my so called father and he is doing me the same way your father did you. I am 38 and the last time I seen my father that I can remember was when I was 10. I recently tried to go through my aunt which is my dads sister to see if we could talk and he told her that he didn't want anything to do with me. I wanted to let him know that my mom or I also was estranged from has died. I had questions for him and I thought maybe he could answer for me. Well it didn't happen. I was crushed. So I hope that we could chat sometime and talk. I love you on housewives and I love you on your own show as well. I am so proud of what you have made of your life despite family. Have a great day I know you are tremendously busy. Tamara

Hi Bethenny, I want you to know I too had a similar relationship with my biological father. OY!
Even though they're six feet under I'm NOT sure the hurting stops, however, I am happy you are finally at peace with yourself.
I have prayed and cried watching how others have behaved towards you.
I LOVE LOVE LOVE your brutal honesty and candor.
Best to you, Jason and beautiful Bryn.
Peace Love and Joy to you today and all your tomorrows.

Bethany and Jason, I want to say blessings to you and your little baby girl. Thank God she is well. I am so happy for you. You are like Wendy Williams always says "A friend in my head". I think you are adorably funny. You deserve all the happiness in the world. Think positive and postive will come into your life. God Bless.

I just wanted to tell you that first of all you were right about Kelly and I think the other wives now see it. Kelly is a mess and you need to be around positive, healthy energy. I,m dying to see the first pic,s of your little girl... I already know she,s beautiful but would love to see her. All the best with everything Bethenny, you deserve it.

Bethany,
Like many other people watching, you have definitely seemed like the rational, logical, real one on the show. We've watched all three seasons and feel like we know you all. With that being said, I think from the edited version we get, Jill definitely seemed off this season. I really think that your lives are so confused with all of the press and cameras and neither of you can see the real motivates that probably transpired.
Jill is a needy friend and when you weren't around much (understandable, adults have their own lives), she was hurt. When you got frustrated and told her to "find a hobby", it was a like a slap in her face. (Once again, totally understandable on your party, but for a needy friend, this is the worst.)
Unfortunately, not only is Jill needy, but she's also very proud and stubborn. It is sad to watch, as I think your friendship was real and obviously meant a lot to both of you at one time. The damage is probably too much at this point to repair, but I hope you will both stop accusing each other of trying to gain more "publicity". I truly believe as much as Jill shut you out, she regretted not being in your life and there for you during your sadness and joy. Her actions, as petty as they appeared, showed that much.
I hope you will both find it in your hearts to understand one another and forgive.

Wishing you all the best.

Hi Bethanny,

I know a lot of people have written to you about their father and how they went through this too. I hope it helps a little to know there really are so many of us, me included that for some reason or another were not the apple of our father's eyes.I remember grabbing all my photo albums and racing the 5 hour drive to my father's death bed. I was going to show him all about me and my life and we were going bond before he died. If I had anything to do with it. What I was met with though was different. I quickly realized there would be no BIG bonding I'm sorry moment. He was who he was. He was the same man he had always been even on his death bed. I never showed him my photo albums. I was there when he died, and I resolved within myself, there was nothing left to do. I don't know why I wasn't to him what I thought I should have been. But maybe I'm not supposed to.

My father-in-law died in Oct '08~for 20 years he made my life a living HELL~on his death bed he tell me he's sorry, I love you, your a good person, your good with money, and I see how good you treat my son. In all honesty it's a shame he had to have one foot in the grave to tell me all of this, and I wished he never said anything at all!

I hope that you read this Bethenny..I went thru the same thing with my father,He died of cancer in January,,he has never been a part of my life.It seems like he has always been dead.I had to take care of him before he died,I have'nt shed a tear,I love him still,,he never loved me,,No one understands when your father dont wants u,you act just like me and you are a white woman and I am a man,no one wins a arguement with me,,If you were in Houston I would ask you to be my wife.

I am so sorry to hear about your father. I too just recently lost my father.

Mrs. Bethenny:

Congratulations on your first baby and marriage. I am happy for you. Now just concentrate on your own life and forget about these fake housewives that claim to be real.

Honestly, I don't know how you put up with Jill's critical behavior and Kelly's lunatic behavior in "la la land". How in the world did you just not tell them like it is and take them down a peg or two? I would have put them all in their places, they are just unbelievable to me.

Anyhow, I hope you will be happy with your new life, hubby, and baby!!

Congratulations on the birth of your daughter, on marrying the man you love and balances you so well and on the success of your career. You seem like a smart, caring woman and I wish you all the best.

I am so sorry you had to go through the loss of your father when everything else was happening at the same time. I had to cut my dad off and can relate to how one might be numb or grieve for “what could have been” instead of what was. I felt guilty because I didn’t grieve, when someone told me, “If you met your dad as a stranger on the street you would not invite him (and his “illnesses”) home to meet your kids, so focus on their future and not his past.” The first and last time I saw him in almost 25 years was at his deathbed. I realized I didn’t need his approval...or anything...anymore. I felt sorry for him.

As I raise my children, I sometimes wish he could have pulled it together, but more importantly, I’m proud that they will NEVER know the existence of his dark side. They are happy, healthy, well adjusted people with good childhood memories. What a gift.

Thank you for bringing your grounded, honest, straightforward personality to the show. I have no idea what Jill and Luann’s passive aggressive behaviors are all about, and hope that they have learned something from all of the manipulation drama they created. Kelly is just crazy. My husband cannot stand the show because it makes women look so catty, but my gay brother in law and I don’t miss an episode.

With that said I can’t wait to see your new show and hope you and your husband have a wonderful life together and cherish every minute you have with that baby.

PS I LOVE LOVE LOVE the name Bryn!

Hey girl, omg....a girl!! What a blessing...I'm afraid I don't sneak peaks on the internet, I wait to see each episode as they air...I made a comment several weeks back when the episode aired about wanting to see your Father, and not getting to see him...But now that he has passed, let me offer my sympathy...no matter what the experience the two of you had, he was your Father...you were his Daughter...without knowing details, I want to offer this...you went to be with him at the most vulnerable time in his life..the end of life. I had never gone through that experience with anyone either until my sister passed away this past February...it's brutal...I feel like I lost time with my sister because of our own family issues, only to come together with her again, to lose her...I feel like screaming at someone, but who? You have a chapter close in your life, and you have one opening....live for the one that just opened...don't think for one minute that your Father was not on some level proud of your career, drive and success...no parent ever woke up and said "today is the day I hope my child doesn't succeed"..no matter what the circumstances, they just don't do it....there are a lot of emotions going on at the end stage of life...regrets, sorrow, guilt, remorse, you name it, they have it....some of it spills out to those they want to be the closest to....I saw it with my Sister to her own children...She loved them with her soul....yet, there were things said that she would have never said under normal circumstances...continue to live your life without the negativity....and congrats

Bethany: So sorry about the loss of your father I know that was a difficult time. The one thing I learned about my parents is no matter thier issues with life I did not get a choice who my parents were going to be, so I don't take responsibility for who they are and the decissions they made in life. All I can do for me and my family is make better choices for me and hope they are the right ones for I cannot change my parents past but I can change my future. We will always carry the scares our parents raised us with but we only see them as reminders to not make the same mistakes they did. I always strive to make better choices than my parents did. Having a relationship with my parents isn't aways easy but I see them as human beings who did the best they could from the poor child hood they also had as children. I only hope not to do to my kids what my grandparents have done with my parents as children. You will make a great mother knowing what you know and because of your child hoood you know to make better choices for your family. Congratulations on your life and your new family and be happy, just allow yourself to enjoy what you have and be happy. Dawn

Bethanny- Congrats on your new baby. Put her first now- you really shouldn't have much time for those immature women now. Although, I do think Jill really loves you. She is just full of mess and so self rightous. Also- I can really relate to your father situation. Mine is so similar to yours. My father is also ill now. Yet, I wish that my "tour of duty" with him could be over as well. Anyway- I'd like to see you get involved in some therapy, and I don't mean this in a bad way. But when we feel abandoned by parents, especially our fathers, it can hinder our growth with our spouses. I just don't want to see you fall into that pitfall. Let it out, talk about your issues with a good professional therapist. Don't burden Jason with all those issues. He seems like a really patient man. But- us fatherless girls -can be a bit much for a man. Good luck and God bless

First let me give you my sincere condolences over the loss of your Dad. Tho you did not have an ideal relationship with him , it is a loss.

Congrats to you and your husband, on the birth of your beautiful daughter. What a lovely name you chose!

I so admire your adult attitude. Tho you have issues to deal with, you are mature in your dealing. I can relate with you . I think you are one classy lady, and you are my favorite on this show!

Bethenny,
Congratulations on your girl and may you have many fun-filled moments that will fly by like the Concorde. Trust me I have three kids and I can't get over how they are as grown as they are yet they stil look like my little babies. Savor the little kisses and hugs because in the first grade they don't like to do that anymore only if they feel assured that no one is around that could embarass them in front of their friends. Have fun with your daughter and your man and live your life. Go Bethenny!!!!!

Bethenny, Don't feel alone w/ your feelings towards your father who has passed. My father left my mother and I when I was very young. He paid $50.00 a month in support until I was 18. I have absolutely no feelings towards him ,good or bad! I have made a life for myself. I am a very successful interior designer. I have two beautiful adult children and a husband who loves me very much.
You are an absolutely beautiful person with a beautiful man who also loves you very much. Your starting a family. You have an amazing attitude that has made you very successful. All these things you have done w/o a father's support.
I've tried to reach out to my father and my two half brother's but they will not have anything to w/ me. Although , it hurts, I keep reminding myself of the beautiful family I already have.
I felt so bad for you seeing what you were going through in regards to your father. Just be glad he can not and will not treat your beautiful daughter the same way he did you.
All my love and best wishes for your happiness
(Screw those physco lunatics who were your friends, you deserve better and they don't deserve you.)

Behtany, I just love you on the show. I am sooooo excited to watch your new show. I love your attitude and personality. I have that same sarcastic blunt attitude as you. And alot of people don't know how to take it. Don't let anyone else get you down. You don't need them in your life. Keep your head up and you will live a great life. Congrats on your baby, my baby was 3 months early weighing only 2lbs 14ozs. She is a normal health 10 year old now. Oh and I agree with almost all the other posters. Stay away from Kelly, she seem's a little odd. Never know what she might pull.

I just Love you so much !! My heart goes out to you!! Been there with the father thing!!Am so proud you went to see him!! You go!! Can't wait to see your show!!!

Bethenny...my condolences. My dad left us when we were very young and we tried to reconnect as adults but it was difficult to say the least. As he was dying, I felt so sorry for a man who didn't know what he missed seeing his children grow into adults and parents. You will be a stronger, caring and loving parent because of this. Best wishes on your new family and show!

Bethenny,
I watched last night's episode two times in a row, you were on fire! I laughed so hard, loved it!! Kookadoodle!

Bethenny,
I got to say you are truly the best of the best. You are very quick on your feet and I think all those other ladies are pretty crazy. Congrats on your daughter.....love the name!!!!
They are lucky to have you on the show...you seem to be the only "normal" one...I just love to watch you.
We are all responsible for what we do here on earth and will be held accountable....your father probably already wishes he could change how he treated you here on earth. Life is hard sometimes and not always fair....good luck to you and your new family!!!

To Irisdemented M second poster. Suvivah, victum. is that Swedish? Stop using trendy cliches to describe a world in which no matter how you struggle and strive you never get out of this world alive.

Bethany, I am happy for you and applaud your great choices. I am very sad about the way you trash people---yes, you do, you know you do. You say unkind and untrue things about people, especially Jill. She always wants to be the center of attention, you say. If you pose nude on top of NYC and then email it to your very private husband, you want to be the center of attention. Why do you dis everyone--everyone. You have nothing good to say about anyone who is not coddling you and say mean things to those who don't. Do you ever think before you make judgements? You can figure Bethany out, you just choose not to.

Boy can you think on your feet. I so admire that. And your drive. I wish I had your drive. When you said to Kelly on the boat "for someone who doesn't care about me, you seem to know an awful lot about me."

Just as dumb and smart people aren't suitable marriage material, neither should they be girlfriends. I am sorry that Kelly is so afraid of an intelligent woman. I think you acted perfectly.

She has a sense of entitlement, undeserved, because of her legs. I'm sure Gilles got tired of them quite soon when he had to talk to that mouth over the dinner table. Jill got what she deserved. No wonder she wants you back. I cannot wait for your own show. Could you post a picture of your lil' peanut on twitter?

Congratulations on the birth of you baby girl!! I wish you & Jason, a long, happy, healthy life with your little bundle of joy! God bless you and remember, the past is history, the future is a mystery, the present is a gift, that's why it's called the present!! Enjoy every moment with Bryn! You are going to be an incredible mom!

Bethenny,

I am sorry for your loss. It's hard when you lose a parent, but God does open another door in which he gave you your little peanut Bryn, and your husband Jason. Congrats!! I am seeing another side of Jill that is ugly. If she doesn't know it all or is the first to know, she gets upset. She may finally be realizing what a mistake she made with your friendship, but NOW she wants to be concerned? Isn't she the one that wouldn't talk to you previously and wrote you off first? Craziness !! You keep moving forward & do what you feel is right. I love your straight forwardness & your non-hypocritical attitude. You are my favorite.

Bethanny,
Congratulations on your new little girl, and Jason. YOu've come full circle. You are really a strong person.
I just love you! Your funny, witty, strong, committed, REAL, and honest, with a fabulous body! Being honest, and authentic builds trust in relationships. YOU GO GIRL! I don't have enough time to blog about Kelly. She seems so jealous of you. Some girls got it, and some just think they do, ya know? Seriously something the matter with her!
Can't wait to watch your new show!

B, I love you girl! I'm so proud of you. Congrats on your amazing husband and your beautiful daughter. Your not crazy girl. Kelly is CRAZY. Jill is just jealous and Lu Lu needs a jobs besides getting in peoples business, then maybe they would stop with the foolery! I'm glad you were able to find a friend in Alex, she seems to be a keeper and down to earth, unlike Jilly and Lu Lu. You are positive and you are reaping positive benefits, karma is REAL! I wish you much happiness, love, health, joy , peace and contentment, may your heart always be full.

Congratulations on the birth of your daughter! I find you the most refreshing of all the housewives. Like you have said yourself, this is a REALITY show and you're supposed to be showing your real life, not what you think viewers want to see or what will make you more popular. I think sometimes your fellow housewives forget just what they signed up for. Good luck dealing with (crazy) Kelley and best of luck with your new show-I can't wait!

TEAM BETHENNY ALL THE WAY.

Honestly, watching this show gives me so much anxiety to see (really) grown women behave this way; Alex hit it on the nail when she said Jill and company act like Mean Girls in HS.

I only watch it to support you. Hang in there. Keep doing what you're doing and don't look back. You're getting everything you've ever wanted, a beautiful husband, a baby girl that will change your life forever and a successful business. Leave these women in the dust, where they belong, and focus your energy only on what matters.

XXOO

Bethenny, I have been a nurse for a long time...and in all my experience it always seems with every death there is a birth. I am so sorry for the loss of your father and the incredibly difficult position you were put in, however now you have a beautiful baby girl to celebrate. God works in mysterious ways. You are by far my favorite HW and you have really rose above the rest of the cast this season. I truly think your life is changing in fabulous ways and now you, Jason, and your baby girl are really the only things that matters. Good things happen to good people. You do not need any negative energy in your life and for those people that like to bring that negativity to you, they need to be put out of your life. I learned a long time ago that you have to take a step back and look at the people close to you and either say: I love you and I need you in my life....OR....I love you but I don't have a place for you in my life. I wish you the best and again Congrats on your precious baby.

Bethenny,

So happy for you and you marriage and the baby to be, Kelly is a FRUIT LOOP and if you werent expecting i would love to see you slap some sense into her.She doesnt hate talking about people shes just taking advantage of the situation you and JIll are in cuz she feel threatened by you or intimidated and Jill and her tag alone Luann are her watch dogs.

Bethenny,

So happy for you and you marriage and the baby to be, Kelly is a FRUIT LOOP and if you werent expecting i would love to see you slap some sense into her.She doesnt hate talking about people shes just taking advantage of the situation you and JIll are in cuz she feel threatened by you or intimidated and Jill and her tag alone Luann are her watch dogs.

It's truly sad how father's choose to stay out of their own childrens lives. I am only 27, and I feel like I've spent my entire life trying to get my father to be a part of my life. I have sent numerous letters througout my life to him, trying to stay in touch, trying to reach out. I finally came to the conclusion about a year ago why he is the way he is. These types of people are selfish, and arrogant. After my daughter (who is now 4) was born, I tried reaching out to my father again, only for him to tell me someone I dated when I was 17 was the reason we weren't in contact. I personally don't think I'll ever be "okay" with him choosing to stay out of my life, the hurt never goes away. The other sad part about my situation is, my father is a preacher! Can you believe that?! That is makes me even more upset. So, all I can do is be glad that my husband is a wonderful father to our daughter, and that I can see how much he cares about her. At the end of the day, all we can be grateful for is the people that are around us, and the ones who choose to be in our lives.

B., I knew my parents loved me but I never knew how much until I had my 1st child. Your father must have been a very sad soul... And struggled with his emotions his whole life. Even if he loved you 1/16th as much as you and Jason love your baby girl that is a ton.

So sorry your dad died - it can't be easy for you - but you can keep the memories of him in your heart and that will help him to live on with you.

With that said - stop letting Alex in your head over the Jill issue - you are Jill are family and family will hurt each other at times - but you have to be able to forgive her - she loves you and you love her. Your friendship with Alex is now - but with Jill it is a lifetime - ope your heart and you will be happy.

Bethany, you a one of my favorite housewife out of all the housewives.. I am very happy for you and your new family and wish you well, and also condolenses for the lose of your father. Last nights episode was strange, especially when Kelly went in on you, she is completely nuts and makes no sense at all. Live your life and ignore the negativity from Jill, LuAnn and Kelly. Your in a better place in your life,and it gives us single women hope to find love and happiness.. best wishes..

love watching you on the show and excited about your new one!

BE HAPPY BE HAPPY . CONGRATULATIONS .PLEASE DONT LET THOSE LOCAS FELL SAD. I CAN WAIT FOR UR SHOW!!!!

Congratulations on your baby and your marriage and at the same time my condolences on the death of your dad. It must have been very difficult for you to tape a reality show with all those emotions. You are a tremendous inspiration! You have succeeded in business, marriage and a baby! How blessed you must feel! Unfortunately, Jill, Luann, and Kelly have their own issues to work out, especially Kelly! WOW! "What was that!?". All you can do is laugh at her, she is ridiculous! Next time just laugh, you cannot rationalize with someone so stupid!

Bethany,
Sorry for your loss. Glad that you are using this time to move forward and think of all the positives in your life. There are many people who do care about you and this blog shows that.

Can you please stop saying 'he liked it so much he put a ring on it'? You're too old to quote lyrics obsessively. It's like you're trying to convince everyone of your 'value' to people. Once is enough we get it you want everyone to know that you were nothing until he put a ring on it. See how silly you're mantra really is?

Dear Bethenny,
After watching the "lemons to lemonade" episode(!), I just want to lend you my support and love. You have had an intense year and have had to deal with some crazy people (Jill and Kelly). Continue to live your life fully, you have a good man; your world is really opening up in positive and beautiful ways. I felt such love for you, Alex and Ramona when watching this episode. Alex and Ramona are loving and supportive; both loyal and true friends. Ramona has her moments of craziness but I don't feel that she is really hateful, just loses control sometimes. I love hearing your wry comments; your wit makes me laugh.
Take good care,
Marianne

Bethenny:

I am sorry for your loss. I too had a father that shunned me and was never there for me when I was growing up. He blamed everyone but himself for his behavior as a parent. The mere fact that you have grown into a relatively normal person after the childhood you had is a miracle. I am sure it was especially hurtful that your father said he had a "full life" on his deathbed. What a slap in the face to you, but you took it in stride and rose above it. You must have so many conflicted emotions about your father now that he is gone, and I don't believe a lot of people understand what you've been through and how difficult it has been for you having been dealt the hand in life that you got. But you have made the most of it and you now have a husband and daughter to love and be loved by them. You will be the parent your father never was. How lucky Bryn is to have you as her Mother.

Awwww...Congrats,Congrats...On precious baby!!!!!!!To you and your hubby!Your such a intelligent,beautiful,inspirational and mostly real women.Thankyou for sharing so much and all the smiles you give out.Now your precious peanut will carry all that on too for generations to know and enjoy.

Bethanny,

I admire, respect and appreciate how you handle all that life has thrown at you. I congratulate your success in business and in love. I am in awe how you juggle all your accomplishments and your pitfalls, not to mention "crazy Kelly" while sharing all this with the viewing public. You have risen above it all. Personally I think Kelly is just bitter and jealous. You are intelligent, creative, accomplished, beautiful and immensely witty and sarcastic.
Kelly is a former model, formerly married to a world renown photographer who wants the limelight back on her but seems to have no skills to accomplish any of that.
You keep cookin "CHEF BETHANNY!"

Hey Sweetie- I enjoy your remarks so much. You make me laugh. There are people in this world that will never understand and who wants to be around them anyway? I am REALLY looking forward to Kellys advice column. She is soooo knowledgeable. Absolutely profound. Stay well. Mazel Tov.

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