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LuAnn de Lesseps

Uncomfortable Situation

LuAnn gives her reaction to Bethenny's ambush.

April 8, 2010

 

After Season Two ended, Bethenny disappeared from our lives. I understand that Bethenny was busy and in love this past summer, and I’m very happy for her, but I don’t think being too busy is a good reason to drop your friends. In the beginning of this season she said she wasn’t my friend, and it hurt my feelings. Jill and I have been friends since the before Housewives and I consider her a true friend and will remain loyal to her.

Henry Buhl is an old friend of mine. We met in Europe through mutual friends and I’ve always admired his work for New York City’s homeless. The Soho Partnership is not new to me, I’ve volunteered with them for many years. I was delighted to help obtain donations for the Use Your Head Shop for a Cause boutique.

I love being with Jill. Since I had been staying at hotels while looking for an apartment in the city, it was a treat to visit with Jill. I love the way she decorated the guest bedroom; I felt really comfortable. On the other hand, maybe Ginger should stay out of the guest room!

I wasn’t the least bit offended that Alex didn’t invite me to participate her Brooklyn fashion show. Alex can choose who she wants to be involved in her projects.

 

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-Murk

After watching last nigth's "Watch What Happens Live" with LuAnn & Sonya, LuAnn made a very true statement... "You only see a small portion of situations, especially after editing" (paraphrased, of course!). HOWEVER... my opinion is LuAnn is a "budinski" and needs to step back. Being a "loyal" friend is commendable, but playing the part of Jill's "nanny" is another. LuAnn has her own issues with Bethenny, deal with those & let Jill & Bethenny deal with theirs. What has been protrayed since the beginning of this season, is Bethenny making an effort to reconcile with Jill, only to have those attempts thwarted, in some cases by LuAnn. As for the "ambush" at Ramona's, whether it was right or wrong, at least Ramona had good intentions & wasn't casting blame on who did what to who. LuAnn asked Alex (after dropping the "bomb"), "Who made you God?", yet she herself had played the part many times, by stepping in & speaking for Jill. We all have friends we loose touch with over the years, reconnect and pick up where we leave off, even sometimes experiencing problems or disagreements. But if that friend is true and loyal, you work hard at rebuilding that friendship. It was obvious (what was shown) that Jill still feels "something" for Bethenny and perhaps needs a "nudge" in the right direction; at the very least, encouragement to sit down "one on one", PRIVATELY, with Bethenny and figure out if the friendship is worth salvaging. Yes, Bethenny does have a tendency to be harsh in her delivery (she could use a refresher on how to communicate without offending) but was sincere (not rude or insensitive) while trying to talk to Jill at Ramona's. I do believe Bethenny's attack on LuAnn was fueled by the fact that LuAnn had approached her on several occasions, regarding personal issues she shared with Jill. Alex also needs to deal with the issues she shares with Jill & not be a messenger; she should have encouraged Bethenny to communicate with Jill whatever way possible. Kelly... it does appear she has it in for Bethenny and she too could use a lesson in communication... she's just too confusing & contradicts herself constantly. Ms. Positive seems to create confrontation and negative situations where ever she goes! It just goes to show you... you could have all the money in the world and still have to deal with the "nonsense" of life!

You are the type that can only have one good friend at a time, and you are not willing to share. That is quite evident in your relationship with Jill. Leave her alone and let her solve her own problems with Bethenny. She's a big girl--she can do it! Really, you need to relax, be human, and come down off of your high horse. You are hard to take! You are not better than anyone else--even though you may believe the opposite, darling! Jill is really different this season (in a negative way) and I believe that is thanks to you!

there is just one thing that seem to be wrong with that picture it seem as if you were getting upset that they might of made up so you needed to get jill away so there was no makeup that day its not nice what you did whos the bas girl now

although this has been over for months now you have got to get a grip! Bethenny and you have had your issues, but this so called ambush was not about you! Why did you feel the need to not only listen but to try and control their discussion? Tea and then the car is waiting! What is wrong with you? If you were my friend I would have told you to wait a second and let us finish our conversation! Thats what Jill should have told you. I am very surprised that Bethenny didnt slam you right there and then! That was not your place! And then you say I just thought it was getting to upsetting. Again not your place to judge.
You can be supportive without being controlling and you should not be involving yourself in battles that are not yours!

LuAnn-I feel badly that people are calling you "countless" in these blogs. It's very mean and unjustified, but you've brought this on yourself by "complaining and explaining" about Simon's remark on national televison. You never should have mentioned it because you should be above Mario's backbiting remarks. Learn to let other people's behavior speak for itself instead of judging and commenting on other people's lives.

LuAnn,
I just love that you were there for Jill, that is what a true friend does, tries to rescue a friend in need...If Bethanny wanted to work things out she would of done it "off screen" like Jill wanted too. Bethanny would not of put all the blame on Jill, her diatribe on the card not being good enough, etc., showed that Bethanny doesn't take any responsibilty for what comes out of her mouth, she truly plays the blame game...And what she said to you was uncalled for and vicious...You are right Bethanny is the snake and very poisonous one at that....And once again you had grace under pressure with that situation...You know it's funny you don't see Bethanny giving anything to any charity...but you sure see her complaining when Jill didn't want her to promote her "skiiny girl cocktail" at her charity event...I think that showed exactly who is Bethanny's only charity,HERSELF....I think Bethanny is so upset about losing Jill's friendship, because of who Jill can introduce her to,Bethanny knows she messed up, and is thinking of what it has cost her in introductions...I sure wish I had a couple of friends in my life like you and Jill...You two are the best part of the show...

The whole meeting at Ramona's wasn't about you. If you were so uncomfortable, you should have left the room entirely instead of childishly eavesdropping at the door, and tea?...you've got to be kidding me. You caused your own discomfort there...talk about inappropriate. And, there's a car downstairs waiting?...you can see through your moves so easily. You need to go back to the strong woman you were, just a little less full of yourself. Obviously you need to open up and let your hair down like you did with Jill, and don't worry so much that Bethanny will steal her away. Try being nice, not talking trash behind each other's backs, it's ok to let someone vent, but don't back them up when clearly they're being a bit over-emotional because you're afraid to lose their friendship or become second fiddle.

My grandfather was told me "Be nice to people on the way up cause you might meet them on the way down." Looks like your going to meet those people on the way down.

LuAnn...Really? Honestly, awhile back...I thought of you as a COUNTESS was classy, sophisticated and a mature woman. But this season you proved differently-definitely. Your influence on Jill has not been one to be proud of. I must say that I expected more. Don't get me wrong-no one is perfect. I get that. But you + Jill=toxicity to anyone who isn't in your personal clique. I really thought what you did at the Bethenny/Jill face to face was absurd. Did you see yourself? You intruded into business that had nothing to do with you. You really appeared immature and very frightened to put it frankly. Frightened that you may lose your "bestie" to Bethenny. Not a good look at all. If you wanted to be a "good" friend, you should have allowed Jill and Bethenny to discuss this issue in private as adult women. Jill is not a child and does not need your supervision (i.e. snooping behind the wall) nor your intervention-"Tea anyone?" You owe Bethenny an apology for interfering in her attempt (whether staged or not) to make amends and to express herself genuinely to Jill. Shame on you LuAnn.

I think that if you are going to put yourself on TV then i would rather make friends with everyone than fight and take sides with people. I think that you shouldnt encourage jill, even though she is your friend you should know right from wrong. Jill says that Bethany is a horrible friend, well jill wasnt that good of a friend either. They both should cut it out. Despite you and bethanys problems, Bethany and Jill are great friends and Bethany is trying sooo hard to get her back. I think you are just too scared of loosing Jill. You used to be my ffav housewife, but you have changed and not for the better.

You can't be happy for Bethenny's new love because you just lost yours. And Jill can't be happy because lovers don't want a third party. They become exclusive.

BE HAPPY FOR BETHANNY COUNTLESS!

LuAnn,

If you trully were a friend to Jill, you would know that she is hurting over the rift between her and Bethenny. Instead of trying to make the rift worse, as a friend, you should be advising Jill to reconcile with Bethenney. But that would mean you might have to take a back seat and I don't think you want to do that. This is not about you, everything is not about you. Recognize that you have no place interfering in this sad situation, you may be the loser in the end. Be supportive instead of tyring to ignite more fury for Jill.

If you have a solid relationship with Jill, you shouldn't feel threatened if Jill and Bethenney reconcile.

Dahling...I am not here to defend Ramona, but if you didn't want to be there LEAVE THE ROOM, LEAVE THEM ALONE. You should have gone back into the room you had just left, shut the door and preceeded to mind your own business! That's class. If poor Jill needed you when it was all over...you could have stepped right in and looked like a true friend and a lady with class. Sorry you didn't realize that.

Luann really I am so shocked at your behavior this year sweethart. Look I know you are having a bit of a time
this year, but really STOP ( as Kelly would say) u don't need Jill to lean on. You don't! Jill has become such a jealous and defeated person who has lost so much respect with everyone this year. Anyway, you look so totally confused and out of the norm. I guess you wanted to put such a show on for everyone acting like a countous and now it is in the craper. Pick yourself up and dust yourself off and start all over again. Get away from JILL! she is nothing but a user for her own purpous. She does not care about you. Anybody who can go from one person to another and be such a great friend is only a phoney. If she liked you so much, what would she care if anyone wanted to be frineds with Bethenny?? think about it. Now we really know the real Jill, NOT NICE.

All of you.....go get jobs......work MORE with charities.....do something...........only one thing going on here besides making it better for tv.......TOO MUCH TIME ON YOUR HANDS!!!

How is it that you insinuated yourself into the so called "ambush" by intimating that it somehow affected you in any way, shape, or form? Jill's a big girl. She didn't need you for a save. You interfered and you were wrong to do so. It was more than a bit odd. Examine your motives.

How many times do you need to point out that you were married for 16 years? Go back over the epidodes and count! Is this an issue?

Bethanny and Jill had a great friendship, but when they were trying to repair it, LuAnn jumped in and ruined it. She needs to get her some business and stop wheezing off rich Jill.

I was also very upset to see how LuAnn is acting this season. Very territorial over Jill. Then I thought about it. LuAnn just got a divorce and lost her husband to someone else. She has latched on to Jill as many girlfriends do when they go through man issues and might be sub-conciously afraid she will also lose Jill..... to Bethanny. Jill is stability in her life right now. What she needs to understand is with friends, there is enough to go around Allowing Jill and Bethanny's friendship to get back on good ground does not mean you will lose your long time friend Jill. Like you said, you knew her way before the show and true friends are always there. Forgiveness is divine!

Luann strikes me as the type that will a fundraiser for the homeless as long as no homeless where to eve be aloud at the event.She was not born of Royalty she married into and I think it bummed her on the head.Of all the women on the Housewives series she is the worse about acting better then everyone.So of course she feels it is all about her.She needs to be in the middle of the "Jill and Bethenny " issues.Jill and Luann need each other !

I think Bethenny has a right to live her own life without people trying to run it for her. If u are truly busy and if u fall out of contact with your friends, that should be fine. If u are true friends it will not hurt u at all and be able to reconnect in the future without conflict.

And jill's new good friend countess I think that she is starting alot of things with other people in jills life. Like butting her nose where it does not belong. its like she is afraid of loseing more people in her own life so she is holding on to what she has. by not helping others with theres.

LuAnn,

I used to think that you were a nice person but after watching you in action in the last episodes I have changed my mind! Take a step back and see how you are acting! It is terrible! And your new friend Sonja, pleeeeease...give me a break!

Jill and Luann need to get a grip. Life is too short to hold grudges against someone. Jill needs to forgive Bethenny for something I have yet to comprehend was so terrible and Luann needs to step up her own life with more than gathering clothes for charity, and talking about others. Everyone has his/her baggage and you have no friends if you can't overlook the baggage. Yes, Jill you have it, too. I applaud Bethenny for trying as hard as she has to get it through your thick head. Your husband is right. THis is getting harder to watch than the mindless tv I had in mind. How low can you go?

LuAnn, please put yourself in the position of Bethenny and Jill and see if you would appreciate a third party interfering in your attempt of reconciliation. You were wrong to step in. You should have excused yourself from the room - no eavesdropping at the corner. They needed to talk...ALONE. Friends can have other friends that are not yours. If you don't like that, then take your marbles and go home.
On another note, you need to come down to earth. Even in a previous season, it was ridiculous of you to require persons to address you as Countess. What country were you ruling anyway? You were the only one impressed with your title. You were just a housewife and mother!

Luann i think your need to remove yourself from jill and bethany's problem oh and betheny did say hi to you so you need ot stop lying and getting into other people's problems

i bet there are a lot of homeless people out there who would LOVE one of Ramona's sweatsuits.

I got to say this makes great tv but c'mmon LuAnn and Jill-forgive and forget. Actually, LuAnn, there's nothing for you to forgive since it doesn't involve you. And where in the heck is Jill's blog, can you say coward!

Bethenny was right...what would you do to interrupt them next...stage a puppet show?

Gosh, LuAnne, what did you and Jill do to get on the wrong side of the Bravo producers? Why does Jill have to make up with Bethenny, anyway? And why is it your fault? If Jill isn't friends with Bethenny, does that mean she can't be friends with any of the housewives? This show has really gotten stupid this year.

wow, can you say "trying to justify my behavior". Since you've allowed these cameras in your life - I hope you watch and see where you can make improvements in your life.

BETHANY DID ADMIT THAT SHE IS NOT PERFECT AND THAT MAYBE SHE SHOULD HAVE CALLED JILLS HUSBAND. SHE TRULY WANTS FORGIVENESS AND WANTS TO GET BACK THE SPECIAL FRIENDSHIP SHE ONCE HAD WITH JILL.. I REALLY THINK LUANNE SHOULD BUTT OUT,, SHE FUELS THE DISCOURSE BECAUSE I THINK SHES AFRAID OF LOSING HER POSITION AS JILLS NEW BEST FRIEND.. SHES JEALOUS OF BETHANY AND WANTS HER OUT OF JILLS LIFE,, JILL DON'T THROW AWAY A REALTIONSHIP THAT WAS SO SPECIAL, FORGIVE AND MOVE ON WITH BETHANY BACK IN YOUR LIFE..

I agree with one the comments,that this sit down with Jill and Bethany,was not about you,LuAnn!You need to take yourself out of the Equation,coz it is between Jill and Bethany.You seem to be digging yourself further and deeper into a hole,and people are really beginning to know who you really are-And that maybe,I quote Bethany"A Snake"Harsh words,But you need to Butt of this one,and let them work out their relationship.
You were not been a true friend to Jill,when you kept interupting the conversation.Everytime i felt they were getting somewhere,Here you come,either with the Tea comment or we have to go Jill,we have a Car waiting!
How rude and selfish you were,coz you felt threatned.That you may loose Jills friendship.And even in your Blog,you mention,you and Jill were friends before the Housewives,so if you feel so confidant in the relationship,Why not step back and let them two work out Whatever they need to,and like a true Friend,Stand back and offer any comfort,support that Jill may need,instead of Butting in,coz you feel threatned that Bethany may take your friend!So High school.I am a 28 year old,and i will not conduct myself in that manner!!!So sad.

But I do wish you all the best,But you need to re-avulate how you conducted youerself last week!

TWO WORDS PEOPLE..."REALITY TV"

LuAnn needs to learn that she can't control the situation. Bethany and Jill were talking through some things that they needed to talk through Jill did not need to prance in and say "come on jill, there's a car waiting for us downstairs." LuAnn mentioned that she couldn't deal with it, that her stomach was sick... well too bad because that situation has NOTHING to do with you or how you feel!! Get a life!

LuAnn I think you need to remove yourself from the whole Jill/Bethenny situation. Their relationship has nothing to do with you. Their fight has nothing to do with you. Just because you have your own issues with Bethenny does not give you an all access card to all things Bethenny. Even here in your blog you wrote, "I don’t think it was fair to Jill or me. She put us in a very uncomfortable situation." Take yourself out of it - it's not any of your concern!

I am pretty sure you will never read this one comment, but in the off chance that you do I hope that you can take this and learn from it and become a better person from it.

LuAnn, I have been reading the comments on your blog because I am bored at work - shocking!! I am not surprised at all, maybe you could blog about how all of this makes you feel. I know how offended you were when Mario called you "countless" - but what about all of the viewers, we all seem to be saying the same thing. It kind of makes me sad for you.

Luann, you seem like a nice lady, but you need to drop the whole "Countess" persona. It's unnatural.

Luann is many things but she should not be the scapegoat for Jill's bad behavior. I am sure Jill will twist it that way since it appears she can't accept responsibility for her actions. Bethanny apologized repeatedly while Jill continues to play the victim.

I have never posted a comment before ever about this show or any other show that I watch. But after watching the episode with Ramona, Jill and LuAnn, I just couldn't resist. I realize that some of what we see has been edited to fit within the time segment and of course for dramatic effect. However, no matter how much the scene was edited, the conclusion is the same. LuAnn was wrong for butting into Bethenny and Jill's business. She reminded me so much of a high school chick who is afraid that she might lose her new BF. Grow up! The issues between B and J is none of your business. How dare you but in and interrupt the conversation?! And you had the nerve to say "and she (B) didn't even speak to me when she came in....it was like seeing a ghost". Get a grip. She wasn't there to see you in the first place! Get a life!

I hope you can see focusing on other people's behavior rather than your own has caused your behavior and image to go on a downward spiral.

I LIKE Luann she is beautiful and she carries herself so well, she is a cut above for sure ~ and would be happy to call her my friend. People that don't "get her" are really not on her level or are just jealous!

To read the stupidity and meanspiritedness of most of the commenters here is truly depressing. Jill is an adult woman more than capable of 'making up' with Bethenny if she had wanted to..she's been badly hurt by Bethenny ..she was dumped! its as simple as that. So she hooks up with Luanne and cries on her shoulder. Now the show starts filming again and Bethenny is back doing damage control and she has pulled out all the stops. Luanne is a classic scapegoat.

LuAnn, I have to say in seasons past I adored you! I always thought that yeah maybe you got caught in some moments where you were tactless but we all do, and this season I started to really wonder what happened to your manners and your general human decency. I thought you interrupting J & B's conversation a few times was both childish and mean. They had a real chance at reconciling and you were jealous and worried about your own standings with Jill if B was brought back into J's world. I understand things are tough and you as well are going through a lot. I think that maybe you need to just reflect on the reasons why you are acting the way you are, you area a strong independent beautiful woman and you have class and morals so use all of the tools that you have and become the spectacular woman you once were! Be a fabulous generous mature role model for your children and stop worrying so much about what is gonna happen if J & B make up. I gotta say at one point you were one of my favorites but now I think you are being immature and needy. Please find the old LuAnn and bring her back because the lady you have become is pathetic!

Jill is the classic person who cannot maintain more than one close friend. She cannot be trusted and LuAnn will be her next victim.

LuAnn - jump off of the sinking boat and find yourself as the single woman you are. Do not let Jill be the influence to your life after marriage.

I don't care for LuAnn one little bit, she is a snake but..
All you people blaming LuAnn for the Jill and Bethenny thing need to get a grip. LuAnn has butted in where she had no business butting in but she did not hog tie Jill or tell her she should never speak to B again. Jill is a grown woman and responsible for her own actions. Jill is the one who has acted childish and she needs to take responsiblity for it. Jill was running her mouth about B way before LuAnn was dragged into this. Jill is going to spin this whole thing to be LuAnn's fault and you people are going to buy into it. Stop looking for a scape goat for Jill. LuAnn is not to blame for this, she just is not helping the situation. Again, I can't stand LuAnn but point the finger where it belongs, toward Jill. Bash LuAnn for butting in and all the other things that are wrong with her but stop saying she is to blame.

I think that Luan and Jill are very high school with their best friends forever - talk to you every day bs. I have a number of friends and there are times when we go one to our own thing but we always come back together.

Bethany is not perfect but neither are you. Have some compassion and learn what it is to be a real friend.

CAN'T WAIT FOR THE END OF SEASON SHOW!!!!

Why are you people so mean? This is'nt our lives...So what, If Jill & Bethany aren't talking! Turn the channel if you don't like what you see. Good luck to everyone on this show...I wish you the best!

I think you and Jill are getting a bad rap from the viewers, instigated by Bethenny's tantrums. You & Jill were established friends prior to the show. That was established in S-1. Since your marital split, you needed or wanted some extra TLC. Jill provided it as a friend. Why is that a crime? In down times, we all could benefit from a big hug.

Bethenny's askew thinking that you tried to keep them apart is laughable, if not so pathetic. Obviously, you wanted to spare Jill further pain from being screamed at by Bethenny. The meeting was a good idea, if Ramona had planned better. Jill could have been informed and asked to meet when SHE was ready - not just to accommodate Bethenny's timeline. After all, if Bethenny's intention was to apologize, then she should have. Instead, she gave long harangue of how Jill said this or did that. A "I'm sorry" would have taken 2 seconds and accomplished a more positive goal of reconciliation than her bitter tears of frustration toward Jill. That's my 2 cents. Don't spend it all in one place.
Peace!

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