I wouldn’t say I was surprised to see Bethenny at the Pamela Rowland show, but if had known she was coming; I would have put on my armored dress!
I have no idea why my comment about attending fashion shows resulted in Bethenny attacking me. I was deeply offended by Bethenny’s comments and by her unwillingness to wait until after the show to discuss what was on her mind. I didn’t want to have it out with Bethenny at a fashion show, but I couldn’t allow her to insult me without defending myself. Then Kelly went and moved seats. Didn’t she notice that Bethenny had just ripped my head off for no apparent reason?
Gloria always has good advice. When she said I would come out of my divorce stronger and that this is the end of another chapter in my life; I felt that she really cared about my family and me and was proud of the way I had handled the situation.
The day my divorce was finalized I felt a combination sadness and relief. I have no regrets about the past, I have two beautiful children and I’m ready to embrace the future.
LuAnn, with all due respect, calling somebody a pit bull is not an insult. If anything, it is a complement! I have adopted 3 year old pit bull named Leela, I have been around quite a few other pit bulls as well, I know what I am talking about. If you truly dislike Beth so much, call her chiwawa or something...You know, when I think about, there is no such a kind of a dog that would be an insult when compared to! I guess, you LuAnn, do not like animals that much...
LuAnn, it is odd that you suggest that Alex should lighten up because the comments you and Jill made were just jokes. After all, the same could be said about your reaction to Mario's comment...
It wasn't what you said it was HOW you said it you come off soooooo self righteous and wonder why people react to you the way they do. You need to come off your pedestal or high horse and be "real" it's like you are always putting on a show.
"I think Alex was completely overreacting at Jill's party. Can't she take a joke?"
You mean like, "the Countess is countless"? Like that kind of joke?
Are you ladies kidding. Tell me this show is scripted. I had just complimented you ladies vs Housewives of Atlanta and then I saw tonights show. You ladies have so much money and should be living a fabulous life instead you all bicker and carry on like middle school kids. Very strange!
Alex was to sensitive that night, and stay strong LuAnn because I have a feeling people aren't done attacking..
LuAnn, I love you on the show. I think you are Elegant and Refined, in every way.. I have to say one thing, when you made the comment about the driver, and how you were appalled that you were introduced by your first name?
I then lost SO MUCH respect for you. YOU are no better than the person that drove you that evening. I hope that this was a one time attitude incident, and you are not truly like this.... I am holding on to that hope. That was the most hurtful and snobbish comment that I can imagine... I grew up with quite a bit of privileged and comfort. My father was state governor, and mother was a state attorney, I was raised with a great deal of reverence, appreciation, and thanks, for the services we had at our disposal. I would like to think that you have the same regards for these service individuals. I hope you prove me wrong...
LuAnn, I think it is easy to say that Alex was too sensitive and can't she take a joke about her kids but I do remember how insulted you were last season when Ramona made a comment about your husband's age in front of your daughter. At least Ramona wasn't taking digs at your kid. It is sometimes easy for those who have older kids to forget what it is like to have young children around. Maybe some compassion and understanding was in order.
You didn't find the countless joke very funny. I suggest leaving the kids out of it when making rude jokes.
LuAnne - I hope you take the time and review just how many times you seem to be passive agressive in your behavior- I wish you well and hope you learn from watching yourself.
So, criticizing someone's parenting and/or toddlers is perfectly acceptable, but 'joking' around about artistocratic titles is a faux pas? Hmm ...
I love you LuAnn. I love your directness. Not sure I would like to be at the receiving end but with some distance I know I would be hearing your true feelings.
When I am in the city - let's have a drink. Cheers.
I'm should you are a great person, but b, and j fight is not yours to be the spoke person for jill. This season you are playing the victim. We all have a wild side.....
I doubt you would “take it as a joke” if someone ridiculed your children. Your joke wasn’t funny. It’s not cool to make any child the butt of a joke. I don’t think Alex over-reacted at all. Any good mother would defend her children when they are being attacked. You really owe her an apology.
Hi LuAnn - Wow - what a show! It's almost getting uncomfy watching all the fighting. A little snarkyness here and there and some drama thrown in was fun - but I wish there was some tiny thread of an honest connection between all of you. Like eachother or not, you are experiencing doing the show together. You will forever be the Housewives of NYC - that in itself should be something you all power together on and try to show some sort of unity on. It'll be memories you will all have for years. I would like to think 20 years from now you could all sit together in a room and laugh your butts off at yourselves. I think Alex's reaction was the most honest on the episode. She has taken some hits on her children and let them slide. Would you have let people make smiling laughing jabs about how horrible your kids are? She has seen all the talking about them every season. I think you guys are lucky it came out as tears, because a lot of mama bears would have come out swinging defending their small children from catty insults. Speaking of snarky, I have a small one. I think you set yourself up for a fall w/the manners book. I think you get watched extra hard for slip ups.
I understand little white lies to protect peoples feelings, but you have to know alex and others will see the truth when they watch the show. Good luck in the new chapter in your life and realize alot of women are catty witches so be careful with Jill.
I really admired Lu Ann last season, this season I feel like she is taking some of her own insecurities and pushing them off on other people. Yes, some things could have been handled in a less tacky manner- such as Bethany and Ramona ( even though I love them, too) addressing issues that either should have not been discussed( Ramona) or addressing them in an inappropriate environment(Bethany).The one thing that I thought was completely rude was joking about Alex's boys and Luann and Jill ganging up on her- it is not your place to judge someone elses parenting skills, and by Luann thinking that Alex was overreacting showed hypocracy because I understand that Luann does not like to be judged and thinks it to be "unclassy"....classic - Luann what is good for the goose is good for the gander.
With all due respect, I felt like right now you need to focus on healing from the divorce and your childeren. You don't need to speak on Jill's behalf concerning her issues with other people. What concern of your is it. Kelly too,in this episode your like speaking for her trying to explain why she's upset. Your intensions maybe well, the whole "mediator" deal, but I honestly think you need to focus on yourself and STOP getting/being involved in the other wives issues with each other.
It is not classy to force people to give you a kiss on both cheeks! I've seen too many instances where you make people uncomfortable by insisting on another kiss. It is not a customary practice in the United States to do this-you should know-didn't you grow up here?
Good for you for being strong through this difficult transition in your life! I have to say, unless there is some amazing editing over there at Bravo...Ramona is off her rocker! What she said about Jill and Saks made me drop my jaw. She had just finished talking how she was above all the nonsence and then she babbled nothing but rumors and speculation.
Anyway, great show. I really admire your courage, and yes, you class. You have a lot of civility, rise above the other crap (Ramona).
Hi LuAnn, When one door closes another will open. I think you are so classy and will meet your prince charming soon. Just wondering if some of the housewives are going through peri-menopause, by they way they act with each other? I am going through it and it is not easy. Maybe they should do a show on peri-menopause and have the housewives tested. Enjoy life because it is a blessing. Luv the show!
I thought you all the housewives would empathize with Alex because she felt you said a joke at her expense as you did with Mario.
Mountain out of molehill? Really. The constant barbs and digs about how she and Simon are as parents, courtesy of you and Jill and the rest of the group, and you think this very involved Mom should not react? Not once has Alex mentioned how anyone else's kids are being raised, good or bad, yet the rest of you feel free with the critique of her abilities. Really, Ms. deLesseps, you must quit believing you hold the high ground on class or etiquette (what you have stated as "knowing" about etiquette can be debunked with a quick reference to Emily Post or a simple Google search).
LuAnn, I am so sorry you had to deal with Bethenny. I consider you to be a very classy woman that is to be admired. On the other hand Bethenny has diarrhea of the mouth. We as women with the dedicated work of the suffragists that came before us have fought to be treated and seen as equals with men then someone like Bethenny comes along and lives up to every stereo type we have fought to overcome. It's interesting that when things are bad in her life she is a "great" friend when she is being scraped of the floor. When she needs to be uplifted and told how great she is then she needs Jill. Now that she thinks she is on top she is so much better than everyone. Give me a break. Oh how the mighty will fall. LuAnn, keep your head up and be proud of who you are.
It's not a joke when the person the joke is about doesn't think it is funny...at that point it's just making fun of someone at their expense. Can't believe you don't understand that aspect.
She may have overreacted but you were being insincere and it doesn't take much of a nose to sniff that out. To me, you were expressing anxiety of having her be there. So you asked questions about how you didn't know she was attending so many shows this year--- translation: i didn't know you were going to be here, and i would have preferred you to have stayed home. You could have just not brought up the whole thing with Jill and just said a sincere Hi. Instead, you followed up with a very insincere "That's great," while looking in all the directions but Bethenny's.
Hmmmm, she made a mountain out of a mole hill over a mean "quip" about her children? Was that like the mole hill you made when you were introduced to the driver as Luann instead of COuntess? Seems to me you make a lot of mole hills about that silly title that you married in to.
My question exactly, what ever happened to discretion? I think you, Jill, Kelly, and Alex know what is the appropriate behavior for a public setting. I also think Ramona and Betheny could have come from the same piece goods, neither has a sense of dignity to know or understand how they are perceived by their actions. I don't suppose they care, but they seem to feel it is okay to pull others down to their level.
You have displayed composure eventhough you were under attack by Ramona on the boat, and later Betheny. Like Kelly, you are also at the opposite end of the spectrum from Ramona and Betheny, and it is best you avoid them. They don't have a clue was social grace means.
Luann, I understand, that, to you, what you said was a joke. However, as soon as you saw taht Alex was upset, wouldn't the classy way out of the situation have been to apologize, and mean it? When you come on here, and dismiss her feelings, by asking whether she can take a joke, it makes you no better than Ramona.
I think you are fabulous, but, in this instance, I believe you acted in direct contradiction to your classy reputation.
Please LuAnn - be very careful of your friendships - especially with Kelly - I think she will be a 'friend', but only when it suits her. Just keep her at arms-length. I think Jill will be there for you always. Both of you are strong and together - stronger.
LuAnn I have to say that even not knowing the whole story I was apalled at how you were attacked! I can't believe the lack of sensitivity by the rest of the cast regarding that difficult time of your life. It just was not the time for any of that. I think that you were being classy with Bethanny, trying to give insight as to why Jill blew her off and she turned on you and used you as the scapegoat and the way to deal with her frustration. Its sad and we all are human, but she really lost control at the next fashion show even with your admission of giving her a little dig. Did it warrant all of that! Wow! I think Bethanny is hilarious but at everyone elses expense unfortunately. She reminds me of the caustic mean girl in High School that is catty and unless you can do something to advance her status will turn on you in a heartbeat. I hope for her new childs sake she addresses this character issue. Also your words regarding Ramona were so on point "She was off the hook and frisky!" Again not the time and place for this. I know people attack you for being pretentious and all, but again we are all human and have our issues! I get that your past and social standing maybe have contributed to how you see the world and your behavior and people need to be mindful of that. If I was in your shoes and had your past relationship, Heck I may even have the same perception, who's to say...which is my point, we have not lived your life with a Count so how can we attack it!! I usually don't comment but I could not believe just the lack of sensitivity on the other ladies parts and how the public rushes to judgement not realizing that this is life, flaws and all! Good luck to you and your family.
I'm not quite sure Alex did make a mountain out of a molehill or maybe you just haven't been privy to all the other comments about Alex's children and husband. She's a mother, I would assume you would feel the same way if you felt your family was constantly attacked or belittled by veiled digs or quips. Doesn’t matter if you think she overreacted, it’s what she thinks and quite frankly she’s right. LuAnn you appear to be a nice person but you need to maybe get down off that high horse because I think that position and title you were once a part of has clouded your brain. Just because one throws around manners and what is or isn't proper behavior does not make one the expert on proper behavior. Innuendoes and digs are still innuendoes and digs regardless if the person wearing this is dressed in Michael Korrs or K-Mart.
Luann, your comment to B was off. If she is at EVERY fashion show during fashion week, what does that have to do with you? Why are you in Jill and B's issue, why are you discussing that woman's children, why are you in EVERYONE's business?!!! Sheesh! Don't you have enough going on right now in your own PERSONAL LIFE? I would imagine so. Stop meddling and stay out of the other's issue. Jill and B could probably resolve this issue if EVERYONE stayed out of it. You are VERY unbecoming this season. Keep your snide comments to yourself. You know EXACTLY what you are doing. Everyone can see it. Just like last season when you told that young Black girl that wanted to be a model, "you have time to lose weight." Please stop!
Luann, I am sorry about your divorce and wish you all the best. But, did you not mention previously this was the count's 4th marriage, sounds like his MO is to move on to younger ones, but at least you got the best with your two children. Now, you and Jill need to stop the "mean girl" act and concentrate on your own problems, I think you and Jill feed off each other. Try following your own etiquette advice and just don't gossip!!!
Discretion?? What about your discretion in attacking Ramona on the yacht? She asked to discuss it another time and YOU wouldn't let up, what's the diff?
LuAnn, You are a beautiful,stunning woman, but if you really felt that tou had anything of substance going for you, I don't think you would be so enamored with the "countess" title.
Luann, I am a huge fan of yours, but I have to say I was disappointed with you this season. You were really rude to Alex. As a mother you should be sympathetic to criticizing other people's children. Not very classy!
LuAnn, I think you are the most beautiful on the show.. by that I mean the combination of most beautiful behavior and appearence. However- you absolutely need to get over the "countess" act..it's so lame. I get that it made you feel special and important, but youd be way cooler if you just stuck to who you are.. Luann.
Also- I lovee how you handle Ramona and the other girls. I was expecting a big melt down with Alex when Jill said call her in here. I think from now on, just veer away from some of the "digs" you make, because clearly you cant take them yourself. For example, at the countless remark.. you could have said "haha yea! Good Riddance!" because you deserve SO much better!! p.s. beth was totally out of line. pps lay off the "darlings/sweethearts"- it is so condescending!
Keep up the good work.
I don't know why you talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill since thats exactly what you and Jill did about Jill's tiff with Bethany as well as Mario's comment about you.
On Ramona's boat she said she didn't want to talk about Mario's comment. She said she was ina happy place and wanted to wait. You said you couldn't and had to bring it up. But now at the fashion show when Bethanny wanted to bring it up right then you were the one who wanted to wait. Can you see how your attitudes towards things change to better suit you in the situation?
I am getting so tired of all the fighting....I liked Jill so much better when she was friends with Bethanny...
How many times do you have to ask these women to not have shouting matches at events and parties. Even when you are the recipient you don't escalate in volume and ask that it be continued later. I admire your restraint and your willingness to be seen with these women who have no idea on what is appropriate. You and Jill are the only two people on the show with sense of how to behave in public.
LuAnn, Last season I loved you and thought you were very classy. This season you are acting like a different person. All of you are almost unwatchable and beyond catty. You should have been called out by Alex. You must have told Jill the story about Alex's children as a way of indicating how poorly behaved they are. You could see it in your face as Jill told Alex. You couldnt believe she was sharing that story and you tried to shush her. Jill has been making comments about you so i dont truly understand this new found friendship. I think you are a lovely lady but that sanctimonious attitude is off-putting. Drop it, be yourself and enjoy your new life to come! :)
I am a little confused. It is better to gossip than to directly confront the person? Ramona is Ramona and she asked a question. Should she have taken you all aside and made fun of her?
I raised the following question in Bethenny's section: why is it that all of the women on this show use the word inappropriate ad nauseum? I understand that this show only shows so much and is edited in certain ways, but do you mean to tell me that you have not once acted in a way that was inappropriate? In my opionion, getting involved in the Jill/Bethanny issue is completely inappropriate. I used to do that when I was 13 and on the cheer team. To me, you only deem something inappropriate if the words are coming out of someone else's mouth and not yours.