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So I tried this entire episode to find the nice things about Bethenny. I want to like her again. I really do I'm trying hard here. Let's see: it was nice to see her with Jason again. I think he's a nice guy. I think Ramona is right, that he is a "good complement to Bethenny." I was very happy that Bethenny apologized to Alex for not using her logo, and for not telling her she wasn't using it. I liked the interviews where she was wearing the big curly weave again. Fabulous, looks great on her. And ... that's all I could find.
So you guys tell me, what am I missing? What do you love about Bethenny? I know why you fell in love with her at first because i liked her then too, bot now it seems like she just says mean things to try to be funny, but it's not funny, it's just over the top and kind of sad. I'm open though, convince me!
There really wasn't a lot about Alex and Kelly this episode. I'm looking forward to seeing them next week with their kids. It was nice to see Ally and Bobby again. They looked great. So did LuAnn's kids.
I did agree with Jill's decision not to go Ramona's party since she was LuAnn's house guest. You just can't do that. It's not right. Very good of her to be loyal to LuAnn.
I didn't agree with Ramona holding Alex hostage at her party though. If Ramona had a big, catered nighttime party with lots of people and LuAnn tried to outshine her with her own party, that would have been tacky. B ut it was Labor Day weekend, it was daytime, and it was just a casual lunch with 8 people. You stop by and see lots of people on Labor Day. I think Alex should have stood her ground and stopped by to visit with LuAnn and Jill. She let Ramona bully her into staying.
what i would like to know is what did u think of Jill keeping the phone on speaker and not telling ramona?? That was low, you seem to be missing the bad things Jills is doing. Why is that??
I completely agree on your assessment of Bethanny. I just adored her in the past and her comments had me rolling. For some reason this season, she is over the women, which is very clear. As a result, she comes off as nasty not funny. If she's over the show, then get off the train! Don't make us watch the train wreck.
I love you Teresa!! I agree with what you said about Betheny. I'm trying to find reasons to love her again, as well.
Once again You Rock Teresa! Great blog and a very honest assessment of last nights episode. Bethany was also one of my favorite housewives and since shes become successful I cant stand to listen to her or watch her. She's a heartless, selfish woman with a terrible attitude. Her remarks about LuAnn were disgusting and shameful. Anyhow cant wait for your book...I know itll be a best-seller!
You are very off I dont see all the negative you do with B. Jill likes the underdog as Ramona stated. Now that B has moved forward with her life she does not need Jill ruling/dictating her life 24/7. If you have noticed Jill is now clinging to luAnn who is divorcing and "in need" same old story. Mario did call LuAnn and kindly invited her to the Labor Day party and also made it clear that they should talk. LuAnn and Jill are in the wrong. B says it like it is and in no way did Jill help her get anywhere B worked het butt off to get where she is today...So im thinking your off and really biased. OC girlie!
OH, Teresa how I love you so! I completely agree with you! During the first 2 seasons Bethenny really was my favorite and I too wanted to see her do well and succeed! But as it does, it seems as if her 15 minutes of fame has gotten to her head. And it KILLS ME when she says that she's so real and how she knows her self- NO she doesnt! She is a HUGE hypocrite, she is snarky, seriously this girl cannot have any friends because she picks on every single thing! Bethenny not a girl's girl, she would for sure pick her boyfriend over her friend- no doubt.
It makes me sad that she's changed. I want the funny, crazy, kind, loyal Bethenny back. Also, I am SO over hearing about her "brand." We get it B, we get it!
What I like about B is this: She is sarcastic. I honestly think b/c of her childhood, she does NOT know how to be a friend. It is hard when your parents treat you like a castoff and dont want you to grow up and have those abilities that others have. My biggest issue this season is with Kelly's blog making digs at B and not just saying it. That is what children do.
All the things done and said on the show are for RATINGS RATINGS RATINGS. Like for example we the viewers never heard the whole story between Jill and Bethenny. So then Bethenny "just sending flowers" is not the whole story. But it makes a better story for TV. Just like your flipping over the table is GREAT TV or Danielle mysteriously laying a book (the prop) on the table yet she did not walk in with it. All is fair in "Reality" TV.
It is what is done in the Real REAL world that counts. Take a look at what Bethenny is saying during intereview on Today Show, magazine interviews etc and compare this to some of Jill's, Kelly's interviews etc. Even when Jill tries to contain herself she manages to slam Bethenny. Sad part is when any of the Housewives do this outside the show...we the viewers lose that much more respect for you all.
Sorry Teresa- I cannot help you with liking Bethenny – I never liked her. I find her so called “one-liners” rude and nasty. In my view making a statement that you are just telling it like it is or that you are just being honest does not gives you carte blanche to be nasty and rude to people. Even Ramona could not handle B’s logarhea when they met at the restaurant – this was really priceless...
You are such a nice, sweet person, and a great mom and wife. Can't wait to read your book, and see the Housewives of NJ again!
Teresa-LOVE LOVE LOVE You! I can't wait until NJ is back. I agree with you about Bethenny, I used to love her and now I've got such a bad taste in my mouth, I don't even know how I ever liked her. It's also hard because we don't see EVERYTHING, which I'm sure you know from your show, but I will say, I don't like that people are taking sides. I know people like to gossip and do this and that, but I like watching the housewives who are close. That's why I loved NJ so much, because everyone (I'm not counting some people here!) who mattered got along and it was great. That's what people need to see more of. Will always love NYC housewives as a born and raised New Yorker--but I'm a big fan of you girls too. So glad you're posting!!!
Teresa, to answer your question regarding Bethany, she is funny, I think her comments are meant to be funny not mean. I think the women on these shows take themselves to serioiusly. It is a funny comment, get over it!!! She is entertaining and fun to watch.
Another fabulous blog Teresa! Again I agreed with everything you said! So glad you're blogging about the NYC season!
I just love love love you. I do agree with everything you have wrote as I also lost feeling towards Bethenny. Is seems as if all the success has gone to her head and she has forgot who was in her corner when she was no one. But things happen for a reason and things have a way of biting people in the butt when they step out of line.
I hope your family is doing good and I wish you all the best in everything you do.
I've been a lurker on here for years, but I felt really compelled to comment on this.
First off...WOW! Way to back track there, Teresa. Love or hate her, most women (especially New Yorkers) can relate to Bethenny's daily struggles, ups and downs, etc. Here is a woman who is clearly driven to succeed. She didn't just marry into money, she made her own money. And YES, she should drive a Skinny Girl car, rock the robe, wear a big stamp on her head if she wants to! Self-Promotion is the whole purpose of doing shows like this (because it's obviously not to make lasting friendships). I didn't hear you bash Jill for saying Zarin Fabrics every chance she got last season, so why is Bethhenny wrong for promoting her ventures? It's called business saavy, you should get some if you want your Skinny Girl, oops, Skinny Italian book to sell. And what's great is she doesn't make excuses for it. She doesn't pretend the cameras aren't there. She owns using the show to promote her brand. Good for her! As for her friendship with Jill, there are three sides to every story and one of them is the TRUTH and we will probably never know what truly went down with them. Maybe Bethenny didn't stop by to visit Bobby because she was on a book tour. Maybe she did just want to revel in her new relationship for a while (not saying she should ignore her friends but the woman WAS single for a while and that clock was ticking). Regardless, I think it's a little too soon to "pick teams". Besides, what is this grade school?
As for the mean comments she makes, I can see how they are getting a little repetitive and obnoxious, but that's just who she is. Just like you "love, love, love" to talk about your marital sexcapades, it's who you are. She started doing it in Season 1, people noticed (and liked it at first) so she kept doing it. True New Yorkers have a tough skin and can usually handle the zingers she lets loose. Regardless, I hope she does tone it down a little for the sake of her reputation and the relathionships she does have. That being said, they ALL talk about each other behind each other's backs. GIVE ME A BREAK! You did it on your season, Atlanta did it, OC did it....so why just hone in on Bethenny? It seems to me you are upset about her calling you out on your ridiculous table flipping episode (which it was ridiculous) and maybe a little jealous of her professional success.
I think it's really sad that all of you (and this goes to ALL OF THE HOUSEWIVES OF EVERY FRANCHISE) have so much money and so many opportunities to give back to society in a positive way and all you do is squabble like 6th graders. I know people with REAL problems. Get it together and appreciate the lives that you have and stop trying to bring others down. AND....think before you blog...your season is right around the corner.
Teresa, I 100% agree with you on this episode. I also think you are extremly fair and balanced on your outlook. I look forward to hearing more from you. Kisses to all your beautiful girls and have already pre-ordered your book. Love you can't wait for your show. Carole
What episode were you watching when you thought Bethenny and LuAnn kissed and made up? I didn't get that at all.
i don't see half the things you are talking about. i felt that bethenny made it obvious to luann she didn't really want to "kiss and make up" and luann practically forced her into hugging her. and i don't get where half these people issues are coming from when they didn't mention them on the reunion show when it was still fresh. i think they are all self absorbed. and for luann to drag out this countless thing is rediculous...it's not even deserving to be talked about so much it is lame anyway. it's like they are grasping at straws to find some drama.
You are so right. I dont see the humor in Bethenny either. I really don't understand why so many people like her. Are the Jersey girls coming back? I didnt see them on the up-coming shows list. Hopefully I just over looked it. I can't hardly stand the New York girls and need my Jersey girls.
it sounds like your really with team JILL. i don't think your really objective. all of the housewives are really the same. they all have great qualities and major faults like everyone. it's something about bethenny that has ticked you off. jill is not that innocent! i'm sure both women are hurt for various reasons. everyone talks about each other on the show. i think the new jerseys housewives were more loyal because they are related and had longtime friendships. i don't know what bethenny said but it stuck with ya. enjoy your babies your turn will be up soon.
I think you have a little dislike for Bethanny from when she blogged about you during your first year as a housewife. Your critques sound personal.
I agree with you regarding Bethenny, she was once my fav but now it's just mean comments. I also think she's the type who can only have either a man OR friends in her life...no real balance. Or maybe she just doesn't know how? On the other hand, Jill hasn't ipmpressed me either this season. I get it, she is truly hurt with the whole Bethenny thing but all she does now is fuel fires between people. The speaker phone call to Ramona was rude (to both Ramona & LuAnn) and her interpretation of things is so negative (like when Mario invited LuAnn?). She does the same exact thing B does, says one thing to your face and mean comments in her interviews. Jill needs to get straightened out by Gloria!
I really liked bethany the first two seasons also. I also had a little bit of a hard time figuring out exactly what happen between jill and Bethany, but I finally figured it out. I don't think bethany was trying to be hurtful she toward anyone cause she seemed to have ignored everyone, which I am not saying is right, but i think she just got too focused on career and her mr.right that she fell in love with and kinda got swept up in it all. which I know i have done myself, my husband was in the military when we met so after we got married and i moved to south Korea with him my whole world kinda became me and him. so when i came back all my friends were like you rarly ever called us so we've moved on. That was my reality check. And know bethany has came back down to earth and all h*ll has broke loose and Jill is mad and she has the right to be. But i do still like Bethany but i think she needs to own up and apologize to Jill and say i am sorry i got my priorities missed up for little while i should have never said get a hobby i was just so focused on me and Jason and work and lost focus of everything else but i am back and i realize how good of a friend you are and don't want to loose you as a friend please forgive me
Sweetheart its obvious you don't like her, all your biased opinions show. She said she felt dirty pretending to be cool with Luann and she said it last week that they weren't friends. There was also nothing wrong with her saying Ramona was like in psycho warfare cause it was the truth, Ramona herself didn't care. We all know what your problem is,she called u ditsy and silly while blogging last week,well u must hate all viewers cause that's what everyone thinks because that's who you are. AND SKINNY ITALIAN OH PLease could at least try to be original, and quite while you're ahead no one will buy it.
I love Bethanny. I have always loved Jill, but this season I am really beginning to dislike her. I don't think Bethanny has changed, but I think people are reacting to her in a negative way based on the rift in the friendship with Jill. Jill seems to be playing the mean girl in high school that needs a posse by her side at all times. We still do not know the whole story. I wish we did so we could all form our own opinions and not keep hearing the same twisted stories. Noone knows what to believe. However, I believe Bethanny is still being true to herself. She says the same things as before, but now there is an elephant in the room and that is the broken friendship will Jill. I'm anxious to see if things work out between the two of them. I can't believe Jill has picked LuAnn and Kelly of all people to "gang up" with. Those are my two least favorites and it is surprising to watch. I have to say that this season, my tastes have changed dramatically from the prior 2. I still love Bethanny, and I'm loving Ramona's new attitude and Alex as well. I think these are the 3 housewives who keep it real.
I like Bethanny - I like her spunk, and let's face it, when you are in a new relationship like Bethanny and Jason, it's all about the relationship and you lose track of your friends (sometimes), for a short while. Jill should understand that it has nothing to do with her and more to do with Bethanny's new relationship and pregnancy. Regarding the fact that Bethanny is all over the place - don't know about you but when I was pregnant (which Bethanny has been throughout the season) your hormones are all over the place. You laugh, you cry (sometimes simultaneously), so cut Bethanny some slack. She's snarky, she's always been snarky, that's one of the reasons people like her.
Love you though. My favorite (and I've watched from the beginning of OC) Housewife show is the New Jersey one. Love all the characters except one...she really scares me (and I know it isn't nice for me to say, but she really does freak me out)...I know I don't need to tell you whom this is.
Again, you don't like Bethanny so don't pretend. I don't want to not like you but you're out of line. The comments about Ramona were a joke. My friends and I say stuff like this. It's called sarcasm and busting your friends onions it isn't meant to be hurtful.It was funny and I'm sure ramona would say the same. I think you are looking for ways to not like B. Also, in saying that Luann got a divorce and grew a penis means that since getting a divorce Luann is not takinbg any crap and is standing up for herself. I would hate to joke with you Teresa, what happened to your sense of humor? As I recall you talked behind Danielle's back in interviews (not that she didn't deserve it) so don't pretend that you never have..
Teresa, I enjoy you in New Jersey, but let's be honest, you are choosing to not like Bethenny. I am guessing because she said something about you that you did not like, huh? Bethenny simply makes punch line and she is absolutely right. LuAnn got divorce and got a penis. LuAnn is pissed and is being very elemental about everything else in her life, it seems. Reading you blog about the episodes are very entertaining because you see something else. I would call you something but I am going to choose not to and I know the more you blog the more I am going to enjoy reading it and laughing at it. Then again at the end of the day you are still cute and funny and I will still be looking forward to seeing new Jersey return.
i think Bethany problem is she got too focused on work and and got swept up in love so her whole world became work, her and Jason and know she has came back to reality and all h*ll has broke loose and everyone is mad because she ignored them so she needs to own up and say Jill i am sorry i have neglected my friends, there is know excuse for this, i am sorry please forgive me. And as for bad comment she might make keep in mind was she pregnant yet i remember when i was pregnant i was hormonal i went around apologizing all the time especially too my for hubby
What do I like about Bethenny? She tells it like it is. She says what viewers are thinking as we watch this craziness. She is open about her vulnerability and doesn't flaunt her money, which is always in poor taste. We aren't interested in watching princesses who get everything handed to them. Viewers like to identify that these women have the same struggles as they do. With this being said, we are able to relish in Bethenny's recent good fortunes. GO B!
Why didn't you comment on Jill's serious faux pas of not announcing she was with LuAnn to Ramona on the phone. That is CLASSLESS, and I love Jill. Very disappointing.
I like you Teresa, don't take sides. It just gets messy, makes you look bad, and might blow up in your face. Be positive and support your fellow housewives. All of them!
I agree with everything you said. Ramona was so wrong talking about LuAnn's personal marriage issues,especially knowing LuAnn still has young children.Seems to me that Ramona has no self control and her husband is equally low class...
i think she got swept up in work and love and lost focus of things and as for bad comments keep in mind. Was she pregnant yet? I remember when i was pregnant i was hormonal a lot.
??? So let me get this straight...It's good etiquette for Jill to stay at Luanns' bc she was Luannes' guest. But it was wrong for Alex to stay at Ramonas' even though she was Ramonas' guest? And why the page and a half long diatribe on how you can't find anything nice to say about Bethany? Sounds to me like someone is trying way too hard to either get into or remain in Jill Zarin's circle of friends. Don't try so hard...
Hi Teresa... OK...I feel ya...Bethenny is a little "off center" this year and I think she is making some mega mistakes, but I forgive her...and here's why: because I have been there myself and I understand. After being scared and cynical and a little bitter, she is on cloud nine this season...her business is going great, she has a new love who treats her with respect and she is pregnant with her first child...one she has wanted for a long time. That is a lot of good to happen all at once...she is new at this happy thing...and she is going 90 miles an hour and not looking back. I think she will regret that. She will need her BFFs when the baby comes and just hope she can repair some of the damage she has done this season to those relationships. Even so...she is still my girl, issues and all...but I love Jill, too.
your doing a great job. and as for bethany i think she got swept up in work and love and lost focus of everything else and as for bad comment. was she pregnant yet? i remember when i was pregnant i was HORMONAL!!!
get job teresa. and was for bethany i thing she got swept up in love and work and lost focus of everything and as for bad comments. Was she pregnant yet? not that it is an excuse I just remember being pregnant i was HORMONAL
I think you are taking bethennys comments after events and in the confessionals way too seriously. She is the comic relief, peanut gallery member of the cast. Think Kathy Griffin type. It's all jokes. They are biting and 'snarky' but that is how jokes go. She says what everyone who is watching is thinking and anyone who is not completely engrossed in themselves and takes themselves super seriously would obviously see. Her comment about Luann just means she is very aggressive now, which is accurate seeing how she started a casual hangout at a bar with bethenny by passing a passive aggressive remark from last season. These comments are separate from whatever tiff is going on between jill and bethenny obviously.
So that is why many of us still love bethenny. She is that person who doesnt take her self seriously and still can stand back and look at things with and call out the crazy for crazy that we all watch these shows for, because why would any of these shows work if any of these women were not as self engrossed or narcissistic as they are.
I love both Jill and Bethany but i don't think Jill made Bethany and i also think it was wrong for Bethany not to go see Jill over the summer i think Bethany was too focused on work and love and lost focus of everything else and she needs to apologize to Jill for it
I think you don't like Bethenney and have nothing nice to say about her because of the comments she made on her blog about the NJ Housewives (all of which I agreed with by-the-way).
Again..I just love Teresa! My husband just laughts at me about these shows..."all this is, is fighting women". I love it ..it makes me realize how low-drama my life is and what great REAL friends I have...maybe it's because we are from a small town and we aren't rich...does that people mean? I think the Jersey girls are more down to earth?
Have a great weekend!
I love bethenny. Those aren't mean conmments...you just don't get her and her humor. I do..that's how I roll and it's nothing mean...it's just a way of how you see things and look at the lighter side of life.
Theresa, I love you! And I agree with everything that you said about Bethenny. She use to be my favorite, and I loved her and Jill's friendship. But it seems that ever since Jason came into the picture, she said the hell with everyone. I guess she is one of those girls, that when they get a man they forget about their friends. I would know, I was like that in college. lol But that was college, I'm a grown woman now and value my friendships. They are truly hard to come by.
Teresa, You are right about about Bethenny this season; she has let the fame go to her head, and just makes mean comments about the other ladies. However, it really seems that Ramona was right last season when she said that Jill likes underdogs - why else would she befriend Kelly and be staying with LuAnn?
Teresa, I really did love you on the show. But all the talking about Bethenny needs to stop. Bethenny is famous for her one liners and Ramona all last season was really rude and nasty to everyone. She did not talk about Luann behind her back she told them what happened and stated that when she was with her husband she was not this forward with anyone and now she is. Just because someone invites you somewhere does not mean you are automatically responsible to pay their bill/check. Jill and Bethenny's issues are theirs alone and only they can work it out. Jill has her points but so does Bethenny. No one is in debt to someone their whole life just because you may have given them a boost to spark their career. You show them appreciation by spending time with them, sendind them nice gifts once in a while, something like that. You do not have tell everyone your business all the time, even if they are your friend. Jill seems unhappy because she no longer has a little lap dog to follow her around and now since Luann is the new dog she will have her to comfort and treat like the underdog. Oh and for the record, why is your cookbook named Skinny Italian? I think you may just be a bit jealous and envious of Bethenny. Don't hate its not cute.
I don't get you. You talk about Bethenny being hurtful? Nobody was as hard on Danielle as your cast was! You talk about Ramona's comments being off base with regards to Luann and her supposed infidelities, well regardless, ALL of these women have said things behind each others backs, ALL OF THEM. You can't constantly point your fingers at Bethenny and blame, blame, blame. Remember Teresa, there are TWO SIDES to every story. I used to really respect Jill and this season she has flip flopped and become a totally insecure person, and it does make many of us wonder if she is really truly happy for Bethenny? You know Bethenny can't be at Jill's side every single day. She's explained herself over and over. Now, maybe she hasn't done that to Jill's face but she's certainly done it to the BravoTV audience, right? So why hound her? Bethenny has not said anything worse than what Luann and Jill has said about her and the rest of the cast at any given time behind their backs.
Recall the last two seasons. Jill talked trash continually about Simon and Alex, continually!! Yet, last night she stated as long as Alex was on her side, everything was cool. That is not nice.
Teresa, my point is, at one point or another all of these women talk out of both sides of their mouths with the exception of Alex, Alex remains rather neutral and straight forward. Bethenny is humorous and yeah, it's hurtful sometimes. But it is no more hurtful than someone screaming "You whore!!" and then flipping a table over on them, right???
I enjoy all the housewives shows and loves Bethenny the problem is Bethenny says what everyone says off camera, think about if its on camera how is she talking behind their back, she knows they are going to see it, she seems to be a great hard working person who was not fortunate enough to have a loving relationship with her father or even know how it feels to be a daddys little girl.
Bethenny is a hell of a woman and blessed to find a man that loves her with all her issues and the most beautiful thing is they're going to have a child that she can love and give unconditional love. Teresa youre looking for things to like people based on a 60 minute show that shows things that will get ratings, you of all people should know this especially since the misunderstanding of your husbands "gay" comment. I don't believe he didnt like gays or had issues with them cause i dont know him and would have never thought of him negatively base on a 60 minute episode that had a confrontation that would get rating so they aired it, come on Teresa if you want to like someone are your really going to base on a two night episode.
Kelly started this season out great, how long will it last we dont know, will everyone perspective of her change from last season I dont know but honey it 60 minutes
Teresa, I love you! I totally agree with you on your take on Bethenny. She was my favorite of the RHNY ladies but she has definitely changed this past year and NOT for the better. I didn't appreciate how she referred to Ramona's friend (who was at the party and is also a friend of Jill's) as the "caterer" as if she was insinuating that this random lady was nothing to her. Bethenny has definitely become more arrogant (maybe she has allowed the fame get to her head?) and much meaner. She tries to come across as a very confident person but I think she's very insecure inside and has some serious issues. I hope Jason (who I also think is a good compliment to her) will bring out the side of her that we all once loved.