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I worked very hard to plan that dinner with the staff and I thought it was insulting to the staff and to the other women when the girls didn't show. The girls knew that dinner was at 8 pm without a doubt. Ramona's excuse that she forgot was lame. If they wanted to have dinner in their rooms, that was fine -- but they needed to let me know.
The reason I wanted to speak with Ramona had nothing to do with her fight with Jill. I wanted to talk to her about what the fortune teller said and I wanted her to know that I was there for her because she was obviously upset by the fortune teller's prediction.
I think Jill and Ramona did move past their fight, and it looks like they both have work to do regarding their relationship. I certainly hope they will get past this.
We made one our meal ourselves in Morocco, and we learned how to make the perfect tangine. What was great about this lesson is that we can take our new-found culinary skills back to the U.S. and recreate some of the food magic we experienced in Morocco. Although I wonder how you could make a tangine in a toaster oven, I'm sure that Sonja will figure it out.
I loved the caftan, the Moroccan makeup and they way they put up my hair. I felt like an Arabian Princess and all the women looked beautiful.
The Moroccan people were so gracious and made our trip one to remember. I had hoped for less drama but with seven women in one house, I guess that was too much to hope for. The house was perfection and the camel ride at sunset was certainly something I will never forget.
You'll see us back in New York City next week where the fun continues.
I am jealous, jealous, jealous. You planned a fabulous trip for the ladies and I would have been so grateful to have taken a trip planned and hosted so well. Way to go Luann!!!!!!!!!!
LuAnn, you should listen to yourself. Good to hear you to say Ramona can take care of herslf... ahem! so can Jill. You don't have to defend/protect Jill whenever possible.
I thought this the best episode ever!! I laughed so hard and thought you were hilarious. Personally I am glad you put Alex in her place; she tries so hard to get camera time, it is uncomfortable to watch her. Thank you for being witty and entertaining.
If you want someone to go on a trip with you and who will appreciate it, Give me a call. I can't believe the way some of these women acted. I hope that you didn't get hurt when you camel went crazy. I would love to meet you some day in person.
I thought this the best episode ever!! I laughed so hard and thought you were hilarious. Personally I am glad you put Alex in her place; she tries so hard to get camera time, it is uncomfortable to watch her. Thank you for being witty and entertaining.
I'd like to volunteer to go on your next planned trip. Don't invite Alex and Ramona. They'll be fine staying in NYC. What a dream experience. Please count me in.
When and where are we going ? : )
Luann:
Did you notice in tonight's episode that Sonya and Alex LEFT THE ROOM when Jill entered, giving Ramona and Jill privacy to sort out their problems ALONE.
You and Kelly should take a que from Sonya and Alex.
I truly feel that Alex had all right to approach you the way she did whole you where getting your tattoos. You need to understand that so many people see that you keep trying to be a mother hen and a boss of all the ladies. You did in fact try to come between Jill and Romana. The argument between Jill and Romana was between them and has nothing to do with you. For saying how you have such ettiquite I would think you would not try to butt in like you keep doing. You are not the boss of anyone other your kids! Furthermore, for you to try and give any advice about ettiquite is very funny! Countess; oh please!
LuAnn,
You have always been one of my favorite housewives in NYC, and you are a thoughtful and very generous hostess. I mean, this was a beautiful getaway for the girls, but you seem to be a bit of a mean girl this season. I feel that you were very abrasive with Alex. I realize that she is not very articulate when confronting people about her feelings, however, I don't think you should exploit that or insult her in that condescending way that you did at dinner. Please be the classy LuAnn from season 1. You are more beautiful that way.
Alex was right. You do assume the worst of Ramona before hearing her side of it. You were doing for Jill what Alex was doing for Ramona except Alex is nice to both Ramona and Jill.
Luann. I'm a relatively new watcher to the show. This is my first season. But all I can say is, anyone who thinks you are anything but the classiest most elegant woman, is out of their mind. So perhaps sometimes you can approach a situation without tiptoeing around everyone's insecurities. But that's only because you are such a strong, mature and classy woman...and it's clear you just assume everyone would or should carry themselves in the same way. I don't know how you manage to keep your calm, collected, cool amongst all these crazies who have no ability to express themselves. I think someone needs to get most of them a thesaurus. Instead of taking them to Morocco, perhaps next time we should sign them all up for a crash course in debate. Let me exclude Jill from that last statement. I adore her. She clearly is an intelligent woman with a a kind heart, who perhaps cares a little to much what número uno crazy thinks.
I LUV U LUANN!! NO MATTER WHAT ANYONE SAYS U HAVE A LOT OF CLASS!!! DO NOT STOP BRING U, I C HOW U TRY TO B THE PEACE MAKER BUT WITH ALEX AROUND ALWAYS KEEPING THE DRAMA GOING IT REALLY MAKES IT HARD!! ALEX IS A REAL TROUBLE MAKER.
I love you LuAnn. Do NOT put an ounce of credence in anything ugly said to you or about you by haters, or Ramona, Alex or their fans. You are a lovely, classy woman with whom jealous people have a hard time accepting without being catty. You have everything going for you. Are you perfect? No. No one is, but you obviously have a good heart and your intentions are always good. You are loyal to your good friends, and that is an admirable trait that is sorely lacking these days. God bless you....and only remember the "positive" things people say about you.
If ALL three of the ladies said that they did not know that dinner started at 8:00, why could you not give them the benefit of the doubt?
Maybe you did forget to let Alex, Ramona, and Sonja know what time dinner was. I believe there was a mix up and notice that you can't acknowledge that maybe you made a mistake.
Alex was a bit dramatic during the henna scene, but she did try to leave only to have you keep talking about it and wanting to know what she had to say. She needed to have just walked away. I guess you were surprised that the viewer vote (Watch What Happens Live) on who was the weirdest during that scene was Kelly and then you. It was odd how you tried to tell Ana she had the names mixed up when she said Kelly to Andy's question. Also, during that show was also the only time I recall you admitting that Sonja was the co-hostess of the trip.
Kindness and compassion trumps "class" any day.
It seems this trip was less about the ladies seeing Morocco and more about YOU showing the ladies Morocco.
Ramona hit the nail on the head with the "R.A." comment. Bossy, bossy, bossy. I'll take Turtle Time any day.
Luann - FYI - It is tradition to tip a belly dancer by respectfully tipping her on her side belt or a money shower. IT IS NOTHING LIKE STRIPPING, do not compare the two as it demeans the art. I agree those belly dancers were wonderful and talented. They were also in full control, meaning if they didn't want the tip, she would've shimmied away.
The more you know. A fellow Belly Dancer
It was upsetting to watch the way you spoke and handled your irritations with the other women during this episode. I do believe you could have been more sensitive towards Ramona when you came into the room and you need to rewind the episode and watch how you approached her. I have a hard time believing it was anything but concern. I also couldn't believe the drama you started over dinner. Obviouslly Sonja is your good friend and I don't think she would skip out just to be rude. I think this episode showed a different side of you and instead of trying to be the boss you should sit back and relax and let the women do as they please considering they are grown adults just as you are.
I was taught in the midwest (of all places) always to ask your guest what they want to drink, not if they are thirsty. To provide food, and comfort, always.
According to several of your guest dinner time was not known to all. You were incredibly rude to your dinner guest.
At least let someone speak, before you become angry at what they have to say, at least that is how I was taught to behave in rural Indiana. My manners have served me well as I thru a good education, and wonderful marriage moved me out into the larger world.
LuAnn, Ironically you work as hard to protect Jill as Alex does protecting Ramona. Therefore you looked hypocritical in your actions. You were also the one not allowing Bethanny to talk with Jill during Ramona's attempt to bring them together. It seems like the housewives all have very short memories and an inability to learn from other people's mistakes. I wish you a summer of growth.
Luann you are priceless, you really thought that Alex was in distress. You were like Oh honey what happened. I thought she had saw a ghost, she looked as if she had been frighten, or being chased. Kellie was so dead on when she said Alex was trying too hard for camera time. I am going to watch it again just for that scene. LOL
I like you but did you miss the part where you asked Ramona why she was creating trouble? Ramona is a trouble maker and needs to learn how to keep her thoughts to herself and not voice her inappropriate comments. I like how you handled and dismissed Alex. Like you said earlier, "Alex has found her voice and now she needs to be quiet." LOVED IT!!!! Alex needs to learn to stop fighting other people's battles and fight her own. Was Ales auditioning for a movie or something because if she was, she should not have gotten that part. Her whole entry and delivery was pitiful!!
Luann, I think you are beautiful and I enjoy you much of the time. I however, cannot stand the way you treat Alex. You act like she is a bug you have to scrape off the bottom of your shoe. She is a beautiful, kind, smart woman. When you attack her and call her names you look ugly. You told her to crawl back into the cupboard she came out of. In the previews for next week you tell her she has Herman Munster shoes. Who are you to talk to people like that? Kelly also called her an idiot and stupid. Just because you and Kelly may be a little more well known in certain circles than Alex, I find Alex a lot more classy than you two. You were scolding Ramona and you came in the room to scold her again when Alex tried to get you out. Now you say you were going to have a nice chat. You were going to scold her for Jill. Don't get mad at Alex when she was defending her friend. At least she wanted to wait and speak to you privately.
LuAnn,
I thought you were an amazing hostess, Your trip made me want to visit Morocco. I love the way you interacted with Alex, she was rude and unnecessarly dramtic. She inserts herself into drama and then blames others.
You rock!
I admired your reaction to Alex's tirade attempt. I thought your ability to handle that with dignity, class, strength and rightly, dismissal, put that attention-seeking nutcase in her place. She acted like an utter fool. Good for you.
WHO exactly told Ramon, Alex and Sonia when dinner was taken place. It didnt seem like you told them directly, because you never said so. No one else said how they found out the dinner plans either....Also, if the girls told staff to bring them dinner in their rooms...they why did they all make their way down to have dinner? It doesnt add up. You also didnt get why Alex was upset, yes her timing was off but calling her names is not a classy thing to do.
You showed a complete lack of grace in your interactions with Alex during the dinner. If three people don't show up for dinner, you failed to communicate properly. As a "host" you had every right to ask why Alex was late, but you should have accepted her response and been gracious in yours. I think Anderson Cooper is correct. The word Class is like the word Hip: if you use it, you don't have it.
You handle so many situations well and then.... The way you treated Alex when she came to dinner was appalling. You went out of your way to scold her as if she was your child. That was not a class way to react. I honestly believed her when she said she didn't know what time it was. Maybe you could have communicated better. How about a reminder? Even my doctor's office telephones me the day before to remind me. Three (3) of the guests didn't know the time? No one's perfect. I think the communication was flawed and you should have been kinder.
I think the girls were telling the truth when they said they didnt know dinner was at 8. It was a miscommunication on everybody's part. You should have found out the whole story before jumping to conclusions and coming off badly the way you did. Thats no way to hostess a dinner. You could have at least gone up to each of the girls rooms right before dinner to cheerfully ask if they were coming down at 8 and im sure there wouldnt have been a problem
I think you did take sides in the Jill-Ramona tift. It was the same as when Jill was fighting with Bethenny. You seem to coddle Jill....or maybe only listen to Jill's side of the argument. Whatever the reason, you were not a gracious hostess by belittling your other guests. Alex wanted to discuss her feelings with you privately, you forced her to confront you in the group. When she did, you wouldn't HEAR her. She is entitled to her feelings, though it seems you don't really care about that. You are condescending when speaking with her. Perhaps you could be gracious and listen to her, for once.
LuAnn:
From an outsider's perspective, you seem to be so hard on these women. Constantly telling them what's right and what you think is proper. You expect everyone to live by your set of rules and not everyone grew up the way you did. I don't think you mean to come off this way and you just want to help the women, you have good intentions - but sometimes you come off too harsh. Just let people be who they want and do what they feel is right. I have a friend who is very hard on the rest of my group of girls and can be exhausting to be around her - although I know her intentions are good. If you want to help the women, then encourage them more and show them support rather than instructing them and telling them what to do all the time.
Ramona wanted a glass of water. Everyone else wanted to give her wine. What nice conversation were you going to have with her?? She was very visably upset and you were reprimanding her. Alex did the right thing getting you out of the room.
Who told the other three girls the dinner was a eight?? You never answered that during the episode or WWHL. Romona was trying to be the peacemaker when she said she probably forgot. How could all three forget??? As hostess you should have checked your guests when they did come to dinner.
LuAnn The Moroccan makeup was a wonderful touch, all of you looked so lovely and exotic. Thanks for going to Morocco so that I could vacation vicariously through you, it is a place I have always wanted to visit. Take me with you next time; (leave Sonja behind in the city where she is comfortable, I'll take her place!) let's go to the Atlas mountains and visit with the Berber people. No camel rides, though, lets take a cross country trek on some Barb horses. Stay fabulous!
Morocco seemed like a very beautiful place and it was definitely a great pick. It's really good to get a glimpse of another country besides our own. I am so glad that some of the conflicts settled a bit because it was getting a little frustrating and I really hope its for the long run. With all due respect Countess, but I did think that bringing up the fortune teller's readings after all that Ramona was going through was playing dirty. Yes, Ramona can get under people's skin but I actually felt kinda bad for her. About dinner time; perhaps they didn't know or weren't told (or blew it off) but you got to stay open to it and assume that perhaps they didn't know. As to Alex, I think she took one step forward and accidentaly two steps back.
LuAnn, you have always been my favorite housewife! I couldn't stop laughing when you asked if that was a buffalo coming down the stairway! I really felt that Ramona and Sonja were very inconsiderate and rude throughout the trip that you really did such an excellent job of planning for everyone. They clearly had their own agenda (which I think reflects some problems of their own as they always include drinking and acting ridiculous) Anyway, I would be so appreciative to have a friend as you that planned this experience. You are a class act!
LOVE YOU LUANN !!!!!! SO GLAD YOU PUT ALEX AND RAMONA ON THEIR PLACE REALLY ENJOYING WACHING THE SHOW THIS SEASON!!!!!
As I once heard in a song: "Money can't buy you class. Elegance is learned..." YSorry, Countess, you had no class that last Morocco episode. I thought you were horrible to Alex and the blondes generally. so, what they missed dinner, big deal. Part of being classy and elegant is accepting people for who they are. That education remark you made to Alex at dinner was just so arrogant....and classless. You let me down, Countess. You can do better than that.
Did you personally tell the girls that dinner was at 8?
Luann, I really would like to believe you are better than this. You really were a fabulous and gracious hostess. But as much as I'm not a fan of Ramona, she was right - you clearly went in there ready to go for her jugular. I know you were upset about your friend being hurt. Alex didn't see how upset Jill was or she might have understood your reaction. And in the same vein, you should understand that she wanted to protect her upset friend in that moment from further attacks.
Alex shouldn't have come storming down the stairs the way she did. But you should have allowed her to speak to you at another time when you saw how upset she was. But you knew you had two allies by your side that could snark along with you. Not very gracious.
I think Cindy had the right idea. Stay out of other people's arguments and issues and enjoy Morocco!!! You should all have done the same.
Instead of trying to shut her down immediately, it would have been so much more effective to let her have her say and then just nod and say "interesting" or "thank you Alex" or "oh, OK". So what if she's being dramatic, not letting someone vent, shouting over them, leaving the room, only continues/escalates the situation. Listen to understand, not respond. Great trip though, loved the riad decor - inspiring!
LuAnn, you have always been a favorite because you don't seem to enjoy the intense drama the others seem to relish so much, and you always conduct yourself like a lady which is an attribute to be admired. That being said, I realize that manners, civility, and a genteel manner are what you find most important in the social environment, but constantly berating people because they haven't lived up to your standards of etiquette is just as rude and obnoxious as whatever you feel they've done to incur your wrath. It's not your place to school friends and acquaintances on how to behave. They're grown men and women. Not everybody is interested in living their lives according to Emily Post, so lecturing people in a condescending manner and calling them "dahling" while doing so, is about as rude as it gets, and I'm sure you don't want to come across like that.





Luann I love you!!! you have class and beauty
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