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London. Ramona did not get invited. I stayed back from London, in part, because being a mother and wife will always come first. It is what is most important. As I write, I am sitting here with my youngest daughter, Sienna. She is 22 months old. We just returned from crabbing at Flying Point beach. As I dressed her in her bathing suit for the beach, I said to her, "Little girl, get out there and own it!" I know I know, she is only 22 months, starting the lectures early. Yet, empowering women is so important.
I would like to give a shout out to all the "cool girls" I have the opportunity to meet, and their "cool-ness" comes from facing life's challenges and never giving up. Good luck to those who have the courage to follow their dreams at the London summer Paraolympics and Olympics. . .Always give your best and learn from your experience!
Back to London on RHONY. In general I am not fond of cliques, groups, or exclusion of any kind. While I understand that Heather was offended by Ramona, in this case, I am not sure the punishment fit the crime. In my opinion, it was a huge statement to exclude one person out of six on a trip. I would sooner have an unpleasant trip or feel uncomfortable before hurting someones feelings.
The more I watch you on Housewives the more I question your self rightchousness as far as telling people how wrong they are all the time. The whole winetasting debacle that you kept questioning Luanne about???? Is it any of your business??? Lighten up...
None of the girls thinks you are gluing yourself to Ramona but you keep bringing that up. From viewing you it sure looks that way. I think your trying too hard and bringing it up too much. I dont understand the obsession with it. If you dont want to be in the middle , dont stir the pot. On a positive note thought it was nice of you to get sonja to do your party
Aviva, you seem like a really nice, sensitve person, but why would anyone want to have their trip to London ruined or have to feel uncomfortable the entire time just so Ramona could go? Makes no sense to me! Why should Heather have to feel this way on HER trip?
Please stop meddling in other people's business. Heather was absolutely correct in not inviting Ramona to London. Why invite someone as disagreeable, rude and obnoxious as Ramona? Stop stirring up trouble by playing both sides of the fence.
hi avia i think your trying too hard and i think you should staty out of heather and Romonas disagreements its making you come across as two faced saying one thing to one and one thing to the other heather is a strong powerful women so is ramona so i think you should stay out of it cause i think it will come back to bit u in the bum
You and Carole are the only reason I am watching RHONY. I don't watch for the anger and cruelty,real life is too full of that, but for the fun and camaraderie. I'd be much happier watching girlfriends play nice. I was disappointed that you put the phone on speaker when Heather called you. I know this is standard operating procedure for Bravo, but it was beneath you. As much as I'd like to be able to watch you on television, I hope you will take your beautiful family and run in the opposite direction. Too many families dissolve under the glare of the camera. You will find another forum to use to champion your causes. Run, don't walk
Incidentally, would your real friends say to your face that you had knobby knees (which you don't,) let alone to a store filled with acquaintances and some strangers, knowing mililons of viewers would see it later?
Admittedly I can't help but watch. I haven't formed an opinion of you but I will say that I think it's refreshing to hear you be so open about phobias. It probably helps a lot of viewers. Sadly, your on a show where you can't play both sides of the fence. It's strange to think that grown women seem to create drama that doesn't need to exist. You can't win for losing without taking sides which is odd since I haven't witnessed that kind of immaturity level - not even from the days of playing in a kindergarten sandbox. You seem like the voice of reason... the only problem is that you're surrounded with women who live to gossip. It's fascinating to watch (that's for sure) but probably isn't what most people would consider normal. Kudos for sticking up for Ramona and offering your room so that she could go on the trip. A very classy move.
I love how kind you are, but worry for you because of it. While you may not like how Heather dealt with Ramona, it was her decision to make. Could she have been kinder in her exclusion, yes. But Ramona is a loose cannon, and I can understand why Heather would not want her along. It is always possible to be kind and direct, and still attend to your own needs!
Viva Aviva!! Your words really hit a home run with me when you were talking about being the last one picked on a team and how much it hurt. Thank you from one of the "excluded ones!"
I don't understand your use of the words "cool girls". It is so rude that you are insinuating that Ramona is not cool, and that you are trying to distance yourself from her, by saying she's not the reason you're staying in New York. LuAnn is certainly NOT cool, either is Heather. What in the world are you talking about.
Ramona's exlusion from the London trip was best summedup by you--"The punismentr didn't fit te crime." Heather not only drew a line in the sand she threw down the gauntlet and smiled all the while.
I think you should let your hair be natural. You would really look beautiful with white hair. I truly believe it.
It was Heather that called you over to clear up the situation.. Not Ramona... Remember your life is being filmed...
Aviva I have always thought you were a kind person and it shows even in this episode. I do think you should be careful when imposing your way of doing things on Heather. She has a right to leave Ramona out if that is what she chooses. Just because it isn't something you would do doesn't mean it's not right for someone else. You got invited because you are a nice person and easy to get along with. Continue to be that way but let them handle their own disputes.
Aviva, think your great. I would like to see you be friends with Ramona then HEATHER. Heather is a snake and a sly fox. You will never know if she really likes you or not . She is a phony. She is a mean girl that may only last one season. Ramona is old school and very harmless. Just take her as she is.
Aviva, you are a breath of fresh air! You are genuinely nice and a peace-maker...not like previous Housewives who were meddlers purely for more airtime! All the best xo
I gotta agree with you Aviva...excuding ONE woman out of six (on a show together) is rude and does not set a good tone. Heather seems like she came into this show with an agenda, an what I've seen so far, I don't like. You're a great Mom and Heather's comment re: you NOT bein a businesswoman was NOT cool.
Aviva, I think you got what you deserved at the clothing store with the girls. When you gossip about everybody and play both sides you're going to get burned. I am glad they called you out. The look on your face was priceless.
You are a nice person. Please try to stay that way. This show sucks the kindness out of people.
I can't tell sometimes when you are talking to Heather if you are playing both sides of the field or if you are trying to mediate. Please stop calling the other ladies the "cool girls". Unless instead of trying to compliment them you are reminding them they are not in high school and you mean it sarcastically. Then cool girl away! lol I like you so far and hope to continue on this path throughout the rest of the season.
Aviva, I love you - you are a classy smart sweet lady! I agree with your position regarding Ramona not being invited. I would much rather invite and see what happens as opposed to hurting someones feelings. That is just what makes kind people, do unto others... I don't like Heather, she is a mean girl, her and Luanne will become best friends because they are alot alike, wait and see. Sonja and Ramona and Carol all seem like very smart sweet kind ladies, some alittle more straightforward than others but there is no maliciousness there. Stick with them, let Luanne and Heather be mean.
Luann and Heather aren't mean; they are just bold enough to call it like it is and say it to someone's face. There's a difference in being mean and being honest.
I honestly think you just need to step away from the Ramona and Heather situation. Putting yourself in the middle will only get you burned in the end.
Aviva, you are one of the cool girls! You are the prettiest of all and one of the most reasonable of all. You are one of my favorites along with Carole and Ramona (I love Bethanny but of course she is no longer on the program!
you are a very nice person. i feel more for you because you feel so bad for ramona. i think you should just sit back and try to stay out of it because ramona can take care of herself and she;ll just take you on a 'wait a minute' ride if you try to make nice on her behalf. you don;t deserve to be taken on a 'ramona ride' this year. sit back and let ramona take care of ramona. i feel bad she wasnt invited either, but i would get in the middle of it. love having you around.....i didn;t think i would like the new girls (i really got mad alex was gone, (i'm glad jill and kelly disappeared though)) but i have to admit, i;ve like all you new girls right from the start..... (i wouldn't mind luann disappearing either......)
"I would sooner have an unpleasant trip or feel uncomfortable before hurting someones feelings" - That's rather sad. It's okay to stand up for yourself.
Overall you seem nice and I really like your husband too. BUT....you should stop with the whole "Ramona didn't get invited to London" thing. Who cares and how does it affect your life? It seems to me that you are constantly stirring the pot about this each time you meet with any of the other housewives. Don't waste your time! It's Heather's trip and not for anyone else to decide whom she invites or doesn't invite. If you TRULY want to help Ramona, encourage her to move forward and forget about it.
Don't feel bad for the crazy girl. Ramona doesn't shut her trap. She doesn't like Heather because it's a challenge to speak.....LOVE IT. Romana needed that dose of her own medicine. Love love love it. Just keep it real. Don't lie or cover up anything....own everything you do and who cares what bat sh*t crazy Ramona thinks.
You seem so sweet! I love you on the show and showing that having a disability doesn't mean you are any different from anyone else!
Aviva, I really like you. I think you have a great personality. However, I feel like you're instigating a lot of the fights. You tell Ramona what Heather says and vice versa. Reminds me of the girl in school that knows everyone's secrets and spills it all to everyone. Its cool, but maybe you need to pick your side? Or just stop instigating. Also, you don't seem comfortable with yourself. Everytime someone orders a different drink from you you change it to the drink their having. Just be yourself hun.
Aviva... good for you for sticking to your values... it wasn't cool or okay to exclude one person on a trip to London for a show called the RHONYC. Honestly, the fact it didn't bother Heather in the least that she didn't invite Ramona to London is telling about the type of person she is inside. She couldn't hate Ramona because she doesn't know her, but even if she did hate her or didn't "jive" with her how could she not show one bit of compassion or empathy? I say Heather's pretty evil & fake. Not a fan... not a fan at all... already bored and sickened by her fake smile. You on the other hand Aviva... are divine... I respect your integrity, values and sticking up for Ramona in regards to the London invite whether anyone likes Ramona or not...
Although I certainly understand why you feel the way you do about being excluded from something, I don't agree with your total backing of Ramona. You're going too far with this whole thing. You've said what you wanted to say, now it's time to take a step back and let the two ladies hash it out between themselves. Ramona's behavior is totally out of line. It's about time someone stood up to her. She's getting exactly what she deserves.
I would agree with you in MOST CASES. But with Ramona, this is not an exclusion. It would instead be an 'intrusion' on a great vacation. Ramona would NOT ALLOW Heather to enjoy her vacation and she would not allow Heather to succeed in her buisness. Ramona chooses who she wants to bring down...and right now, it's heather. Ramona is FRUSTRATED at her lack of being able to BRING HEATHER DOWN. Heather is also a COOL CAT. She is handling herself very well. I wonder how you will feel when Ramona turns her claws to you? I hope you can stand your ground. You seem very nice and I love that your on the show. I just hope you can learn not to allow Ramona to push you around. Because SHE WILL, you'll see.
Really like you...love love your style. You are very elegant and I like that you are fair and like to remain objective, some others shoudl take your cue. I commend you for sticking up for Ramona because what Heather did was plain wrong. Wishing you luck and happy summer.
Aviva, You and I have so much in common. I too understand why Heather would not want to invite Ramona but when it is that specific of a group (the entire cast but her) the punishment is worse than the crime, and the exclusion feels painfully deliberate. I would also prefer to be uncomfortable rather than have someone in such a situation, even if they have done that to someone else in the past. You and Carole are the best housewives to come onto the franchise in a long time. I am thoroughly enjoying you in all your scenes. Take care, and "see" you next week!
Don't complain when you're caught in the crossfire between Heather and Ramona. You put yourself there when you could easily avoid that. Mind you're own business.
You're right. I like Aviva but she does seem to stir the pots. She will learn to mind her own business. Just wait until Ramona turns on her.
You put yourself in the middle, you can take yourself out. Simply keep your opinions to yourself. Simple.
Why does this matter to you? Heather doesn't like Ramona, she doesn't have to invite her. Opinions vary.
I think it was a kind thing of you to do to try and get Heather to realize that Ramona was feeling left out of not being invited to London. It didn't turn out as you hoped it would but at least you tried.
I agree with Heather. I would not want to go on any trip with Ramona. I have very good friends that I will not travel with. It doesn't mean I don't love them, I just don't travel with them.
Heather and Ramona are not friends and Heather has every right not to invite her.
Did you see how Ramona treated Jill last season at crazy island and they were friends.
At first I really thought you had some sense but you are going between the two. When you are with Ramona you support Ramona's pov and when you are with Heather you support her pov. Meanwhile talking negativly about them both.
I like you but am confused on being stuck in the middle of Ramona and Heather. You asked to be put there by asking them each about it. You were the one that brought it up. Heather doesn't need to feel obligated to invite anyone. If feelings are hurt than maybe that person will reflect why they didn't get invited and change their behavior. With that said, I do wish that Ramona was going. It will make the trip much more interesting. Would love to see Teresa, Tamra and Ramona take a trip together.
So far you present yourself as someone who is thoughtful, kindhearted, and well intentioned. However, make no mistake about it, YOU are the one who placed YOURSELF in the middle of Ramona/Heather situation, so you shouldn't be surprised (nor blame anyone other than yourself) when you're called in to qualify statements you made to both women. The choice to not exclude someone is your choice/prerogative when you are the one doing the hosting/inviting. That's not the case here, and frankly, it's rude (and rather controlling) to insist to someone whom they should or should not invite when it's not your affair (and you won't even be attending!!). You are certainly entitled to your own opinion/thought on the matter, but you crossed the line by trying to manipulate the situation (however well intentioned it was).
It's so obvious that you like everything friendly and comfortable, and that tends to be typical with genuinely nice people. However, people who always" tell it like it is" and go through life with "unfiltered mouths" are bound to make some people uncomfortable, and there is a price to be paid for that. When someone doesn't really care that their words are hurtful, they will eventually have to pay the piper for that carelessness. It's time to let Ramona sort out her problems by herself. If she hasn't figured out how to smooth things over at her age and finds herself up the creek, she's just going to have to take a dunking. After you've been thrown under the bus a few times for trying to help, the phrase 'Good luck with that' will roll off your lips with ease, trust me.