Welcome back my friends! As you can see after watching this episode, it wasn't the usual "walk in the park" for me!
Overall, I thought my talk with Ramona went as well as could be expected -- since she feels that she didn't threaten me and I know what I heard on the phone that day, even if she denies it.
It's a case of "she said, she said." I'd wanted to clear the air with Ramona and move forward, and, in the end, I decided to put this behind me although I do feel that I made a deal with devil.
I was surprised that Aviva felt the need to fib about how I shared Ramona's threats to me with the girls.
LuANn your great and I love you with your kids. That's what Rammona doesn't get is that kids get into messes and a good parent knows all about their messes, maybe Ramona should keep as good of an eye on Avery, like she does Victoria before Avery starts to rebel.
Jacques was such a scene stealer! "What was the accent of the math teacher?" Killed me! Why have the producers never shown this side of him before? His quips with Noel really were the highlight of this episode! Gross bises to him!
I thought it was pretty clear that Ramona told you she would bring up things about your children if you didn't stop trying to strong arm an apology out of her. I think Ramona's position was she called you a "weekend mom" because she thinks you are, indeed, a "weekend mom". When you insisted she apologize, Ramona refused and instead she started naming incidents involving your children to further illustrate her point was true. The problem isn't that Ramona was blackmailing you. The problem is that you don't like Ramona's opinion of your mothering style and insisted she apologize for it. Had you recognized Ramona is entitled to her own opinion and let it go, nothing would have happened. And I can't help but wonder what good a forcibly extracted apology brings forth. Seems kind of silly.
I hope you won't be alone in calling out Ramona this season. I'm not sure anyone can get through to her but keep trying.
I think Ramona is jealous of you. She watches Mario like a hawk whenever you are around. I think you represent every thing she will never have: Beauty, poise, grace(to name a few). She blathers on about her abusive father blah, blah,blah. Can't she see how embarrassingly abusive her own actions are? Her poor daughter, Avery, turns crimson every time they are together. You are absolutely right kids are "off limits". Ramona needs to give up the bottle, seek therapy for her narcissism, and let her daughter be the teenager instead of trying to be one herself.
LOVE the homework discussion ...I have the same issue with mine! Glad to know my kid isn't the only one with the forgot-to-do-my-homework disease. LOL
I thought you handled the meeting with Ramona really well. Watching her on TV makes me crazy so how you deal with her in real life is beyond me. Just have to say, it was pretty funny when Jacques asked Noel what accent the math teacher had. Unless there was editing, Noel didn't have an answer for that one. That made me laugh.
LuAnn- Dahling, you just didn't make a "deal with the devil", you signed the contract, sealed the deal, had it notarized in triplicate!!! Ramona claimed she didn't threaten you, she wouldn't remember if she did or didn't, in her Pinot-Stupor....she really needs to lay off of that stuff. Everytime we see her she's with a glass of it or carrying a whole bottle of it around. I think it's a problem, her eyes look a lot more crazier and glazed over from previous seasons. I'm sure the Bravo moderator will not post this, seems like this year, they are not putting both sides of what people think (very few anyway of the "don't like" comments). Not sure why, there are always two sides to what we think about all of you, we either love you guys or hate you guys. I think you're great! You're a great Mom and Ramona was WAY out of line when she questioned your motherhood. You just don't go there! Hope you and your Frenchman are having a wonderful life. I'm married to one and he is the love of my life. Take care!
Did you watch the same show as the rest of us???? Personal ownership from YOU would be refreshing....
Ramona does not engage her "pinot filled" brain before she puts her mouth in gear. This excuse may fly for a woman under the age of 25, who doesn't know better. She readily admitted to you on the park bench, that she "says what she thinks" and, that's "just the way I am." A woman rapidly approaching 50, who cannot measure her words, it is downright pathetic. For someone who "hardly ever thinks about you," she has quite a lot to say about how you rear your teens, and how you live your life. Why should it matter to her so much how you support your family? If you are able to do it, without having a career, at this point in your life, wonderful!
Love love love you ... Loved when you called out Ramona and her "pino filled hat". Classic! Ramona is crazed. She is never without a glass in her hand and is absolutely nutty. She's yelling one minute and then the next minute she is talking about her shellac manicure.
I really enjoy this television series, however I must say I haven't been able to enjoy the show as I had previously with the presence of these new housewives! Save your show, and eject them. My group of friends and myself agreed upon giving up TRHNYC without a change, and a twist of excitement.
LuAnn, do no feed CRAZY's crazy! Ramona is obviously disturbed, just stay away from her! OMG, I hope I will never meet in my life anybody like her :(
It's difficult for me to pay attention to the drama because clips of you always make me laugh--in a good way. Your quip from last week, the little sing song "...but darling, it's cocktail tiiiime" was too funny, and Jacques' question about the math teacher's accent did not go unnoticed this week. You might be riding the Ramonacoaster this season, but you appear happy and as though you are letting more of the real Luann show. I still miss Alex, but hope to see more of your humor. I enjoy watching you and Ramona, but perhaps not together so much, or perhaps with less drama? The "making lemons into lemonade" thing is so last season.
Avia didn't fib. You did exactly as she said. You ran to the other women and couldn't wait to throw Ramona under the bus.
I am beginning to feel sorry for you without Jill to run to looking for justification. You had to stoop to trying to get it from the new girls. It was very selfish of you to even show up to that luncheon and make it all about you and how much of a victim you think you are and then run away. Those girls hopefully noticed that you really could care less about any of them and are indeed just trying to poison their minds against anyone who dares to call you out on your truths. No one is perfect, not even you! You just accused Aviva of running to Ramona to fib which shows the public that in fact YOU are the liar. You ladies forget sometimes that you are voluntarily on camera and the evidence was clear that you did do exactly what Aviva said you did, only she didn't reveal that you came to lunch and told everyone. It is evident in all of the seasons that Ramona in her own harsh way is trying to tell you that you are imperfect like the rest of us and you still just don't get it. You are above no one and perhaps you should listen to your own lyrics. Money can't buy you class, nor friendship, nor respect. You all run and gossip behind each others back, even you! As far as her saying you are a weekend Mother you stated that yourself first. Own it! You are the one who decided to make the comments about your sons birthday party etc. on camera, not Ramona. You are your own worst enemy. Maybe you should follow Jills lead ad bow out gracefully and quietly as well.
I hope LuAnn reads this. I was so uncomfortable watching how you chide your son on national t.v. for falling behind in french and math. Like my daughter he has heard French since he was small and can probably speak it beautifully. My daughter's accent is impeccable. However, learning to read and write it is difficult to say the least especially the way it is taught in American schools. My daughter had difficulty with the grammar. Why don't you get him a tutor and be a little more sympathetic. He probably will be more careful appearing with you on set from now on. I hope his peers at school did not give him a hard time over that scene. You have two beautiful children. Enjoy them and spend a lot of time with them because they will be gone soon. I didn't agree with Ramona's comments toward you because I think she acts like an ass- so don't prove her right-please!
It depends, if LuAnn wants to be a snob she might find herself off the show like Jill and Kelly who are apparently enjoying their "circle of friends." I find it odd that all the new ladies heard and saw what she did gossiping about Ramona but even LuAnn contests that Aviva shouldn't have reported to Ramona. Well tit for tat or so the saying goes..if you run and tell it gets back.
STAY AWAY from Ramona. I don't know why you even decided to make up with her. SHE IS A CHILD....
I hope you find some sanity and peace in the upcoming episodes. You are a beautiful woman.
Lulu, you cannot force someone to ask you for forgiveness! You just can't. You were bullying Ramona into asking you to forgive her. And then you had to go and tell all the new "girls" all the gossip. Also, what happened to all your supposed class? A party is NEVER the place to confront someone like that. Specially in someone else's home. Seems you're the only one who's allowed to be classless.
I now know what a coward Ramona is and one day Karma will come back to haunt her. She's a lieing, hypocritcal little beast who couldn't own the fact that she did say things about your children instead she denied them and hides behind that glass of Pinot Grigio she always toting around. One day Avery will make a mistake in life and everyone will judge her like ramona judges you. That's very sad because no matter the circumstance kids are off limits. She said she doesn't care about you so write her off tell the witch to get on her broom and begone !! Ramona is not a true friend and needs to be knocked down a peg !!! KARMA BABY !!!
I'm confused. How did she threaten you? She was going to spill secrets about you? If you live life honestly and you are able to sleep at night then Ramona has nothing to threaten you with.
Hi LuAnn, still seeing your taking flack because of the crazy blonde... pay no attention, you're the sanest women on that show!! :)
Thank you LuAnn for showing that all teenagers are not perfect! I really got a kick out of the conversation you had with Noel about his school work. I thought I was watch a play by play of the discussion I had with my own teenager.
I loved seeing, for once, a teenager displaying normal teenage behavior. To listen to Ramona and Jill describe their teens they never did a thing wrong. Perfect all the time, in every way. Gets old listening to it.
Thanks for letting us see a real family moment.
I miss Jill! I hope u too. I'm a little afraid for u with that Ramona. It is not right at all for her to be able to talk about your children. Bravo should be ashamed to air this stuff about your kids. I'm a loyal fan, but this just makes me sick to my stomach! Hang in there.
Love your daughters work. She seems to be very creative. Victoria should be very proud. I'm sure you are too. I would love to own some but probably couldn't afford it. I did e-mail her to ask prices. We can always hope. Good luck to Victoria. Not that she needs it.
From the filmed conversation between you and Ramona, it seems like Ramona did say something to you over the phone. Probably trying to get you to back off. And Ramona did apologize. But you spin it that, Ramona threatened and was black mailing you. Seriously. . . that's ridiculous!! Drama Queen!! AND if that's not bad enough. . . then you went to all the other ladies like a 12 year old child talking about Ramona. Is that you're example of class? Shame on you! Also, Ramona was TRYING to explain to you, that when you make condescending remarks, Ramona is going to come back at you with a dig. That's how the whole thing started. So take ownership for you part in starting the fight, stop with the nasty comments and Ramona will stop. Just be nice to her and that will be the end of it. Good luck!
Just my opinon, but I think you handled yourself very classy (as usual), and with dignity. Ramona is a little out there???? You can't get a word in.
I already told her what I thought of how she acted.
Ladies, you live in one of the most coolest places on earth, and you all seem to have MONEY to enjoy your lifestyles.
All I want to see is more of the fancy parties (with no drama, please), and what it's like to live in NYC.
If this season is going to be all about who's on who's side, and high school drama, I think I'm done watching.
I have enough stress in my life (and no money), to listen to grown women acting like high school girls.
But I respect and admire you, and I always have. You're a class act, and always act like a lady.
Wish you all the best, don't let them bring you down to their level.
Luann, love Jacques. What he sees in you is beyond me. As for your son, leave the kid alone. It's obvious you don't want to put in that much effort to guide him other than berating him on national television. He's old enough to take care of himself so why should you. You seem more interested in your boyfriend than in your kids.
I really like you Luanne but you are passive aggressive and you need to work on that!!! Otherwise you are elegant and gorgeous!! Sometimes you just need to act it more!
I can totally relate to your situation with Noel and homework. It was like I was watching in a mirror with my child doing the same thing. Tell us all your tips that you used to get Noel back on track with homework. When my child "forgets" to do homework I am just as surprised. I even asked my child when the teacher asks everyone to turn in the homework and you don't have it, doesn't that remind you?
LuAnn - Ramona is not as horrible as you make her out to be. You both need to grow up and act like adults. Yes she said something wrong - MOVE ON. She apologized. You sharing with the girls was inappropriate - not that you wanted to share it, but the manner in the way you did it. You stated something and left and did not even drink your coffee. You looked very silly! Be classy!
LuAnn I think you're very cool, but you DID share Ramona's call with the girls. Did you miss last week's episode? Funny how it is all right there and yet everyone always says, I didn't do it. Come on now. :)
Aviva fibbed because she did not want to create an additional source for tension between you and Ramona. The way you were shown telling the other and then hurrying off made it appear that he sole reason for you meeting them was to tell on Ramona and then run off - not very classy- VERY adolescent behavior. Thank you for defending Sonja - I kept wondering where her handleer had scampered to. Your defense of her was definitely CLASSY - Well done!
You are dressed impeccably. It's always the right outfit for the right occasion. You should become a fashion consultant or create your own line. Your clothes are beautiful and tasteful. As for Ramona, you know her right? She says whatever she wants and you will never be able to change her.
Luann you have your hands full with that Ramona. Stay classy and keep doing the best you can with your kids. Ramona is a hypocrite and will never admit to any wrong doing, so don't spin your wheels trying to get anything out of her of substance.
LuAnn, Understandably you were hurt by all of Ramona's jabs at you as a mother. She also started in on your children. She won't change but perhaps you should change the way you react to her. Keep it light and move on. Don't over react as this is what she wants. To dig at you. Be above it all and feel sorry for her. She is an insecure person underneath all that bravado. Just blow it off and say That's Ramona to everybody.
There is no doubt in my mind that Mario & Ramona made that call to you. Since you're a person of substance--howz about taking away/punishing your son for failing and worse than that lying about it?
LuAnn.. . Keep up your class and style, it always wins . As a mother myself, children should not be involved in all of the hoopla. Take care of yourself and it will all fall in place... Stay Real...Kelly, fellow Weschester (Chappaque , Mt Kisco Res)....
Darling, you are way more forgiving than I'd be with Ramona!!! I don't think I've ever heard such a mean mouth on a woman over 50? I can't help but wonder why she is so ugly toward you? As Mothers we should build one another up not pick apart. IMO, NO one has the right to run their mouth about how another Parents! With the exception of abuse. Then there are those to call at once! 911 Everyone finds their spot on these shows, Mona Mouth goes on about the way you talk ect. You wrote a book on manners. So?? Why does she take it that you think you are the expert?? She sells wine. You are selling your book. Your children are wonderful. As hard as it is on us, it is on them too. They are in a awkward spot where they aren't children any longer but not adults either. There should be support groups for Parents of teens! Just remember if Ramona is putting you down, you are doing great! I sure wouldn't want her crazy approval. Sending Hugs!