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Welcome back my friends! As you can see after watching this episode, it wasn't the usual "walk in the park" for me!
Overall, I thought my talk with Ramona went as well as could be expected -- since she feels that she didn't threaten me and I know what I heard on the phone that day, even if she denies it.
It's a case of "she said, she said." I'd wanted to clear the air with Ramona and move forward, and, in the end, I decided to put this behind me although I do feel that I made a deal with devil.
I was surprised that Aviva felt the need to fib about how I shared Ramona's threats to me with the girls.
Oh LuAnn.. Get over yourself. You give as good as you get. Repeating a "threat" from Ramona under the guise of a public service announcement to all of the new women was pretty nasty. Viewers get so tired of your demands for apologies when you never apologize for the ugly things you say..or acknowledge you even say it.
Ramona is so different and a little on the psychotic side. I think LuAnn is very classy and Ramona needs to keep her opinions to herself. She is very hypocritical and she needs counseling. She plays the victim but yet she is the instigator of all events that happen. LuAnn everyone loves you and I think you are a great mom.
stop talking to people like their beneath you and learn to listen like you want people to listen to you
Although I'm wriing on LuAnn's blog space it really isn't directed at any one housewife. This season is definitely a snoozefest. If this is the best that New York has to offer Bravo...cut your losses and cancel this istallment...don't evn waste money or time on a reunion show.!!!!
Ok just so you know the meaning of words that you are using. A 'fib' is technically a lie, usually an unimportant one. You implied that Aviva felt the need to fib? Just be clear on meaning of words before you use them to avoid confusion.
OMG! Really??? you were telling your daughter that you and Jacque might want to have another baby. Are you serious?
UGH! French, I hated conjugating! Everything was to be conjugated and I seemed to always ALWAYS, forget some of them! Oh well, C'est la vie, n'est pas!?
Amen, LuAnn! Wasn't it Ramona who was saying in the last episode something to the effect of "Stay at home moms have the hardest job in the world?" What about slamming Sonja for not working? Or Aviva? What does she do?
Ramona is a hypocrite! As if raising a family and running a household isn't work. I don't care if you are the mother of a 4 year old or a 14 year old. I am sick of these so called "working" women like Ramona (and Vicki and other 'wives) looking down their noses at women who choose their families over careers. You are fortunate to have that opportunity. Whatever works for each family is their own business. Don't let her shame you - it's just jealousy! I am a proud housewife with NO kids! She would love ME. Ha!
Let's not forget this show is called NY HOUSEWIVES. Maybe it should have been called NY Socialites.
On a side note... It's admirable of you to admit your son is struggling. He has grown into quite the handsome young man. Perhaps he should model? Loved seeing you with him and Jacques instead of fighting with Ramona. Where is Astin? Oh! And I love your blue and yellow kitchen! Great taste.
Zou bisous! from FL
Since there was no recording of this threat, drop it. Had you recorded it, it should be for the police department as it's not a joke to threaten another.
Ramona is a bully on many levels. Her life has been about fighting it out to survive. Perhaps approach her next time knowing she's looking to argue, then you'll know to side-step.
Ramona berated you in that park and you allowed her to step, I mean stomp, all over you. Why couldn't you articulate yourself better? You must not allow any woman to bully you into a corner, un-intelligently, and win! You didn't get a word in because all she did was insult, make harsh digs, and not let you speak.
I know you have a lot of class but you need respect too. Not even for the sake of you, for the sake of you children do not allow someone to do that to you. Put your foot down and do not take it from Ramona or anyone else ever again.
You are a smart woman, you can articulate better and you should never allow Ramona to sit there and use her bag of tricks, insults, and volume to dominate a conversation.
I commend you for trying to smooth everything over with Ramona. I'm assuming you're doing that since the two of you have to film together??? I suppose if I was you, I would have at least tried too. My advice- do not even give that woman one split second of your time, even if it's a smile. I know a belligerent, cruel, obnoxious, apathetic, person when I see one the FIRST time and I RUN!!! LOL. LOL. I have tried to give her the benefit of doubt and "appreciate" her "candidness," but even when she tries; she fails. Good luck with her LuAnn. CALL IT QUITS. BRAVO- this is not a "love to hate" thing with Ramona, nor is she even a train wreck that you cannot turn from. It is downright repulsive...please dismiss her. Thank you!
Darling, you are way more forgiving than I'd be with Ramona!!! I don't think I've ever heard such a mean mouth on a woman over 50? I can't help but wonder why she is so ugly toward you? As Mothers we should build one another up not pick apart. IMO, NO one has the right to run their mouth about how another Parents! With the exception of abuse. Then there are those to call at once! 911 Everyone finds their spot on these shows, Mona Mouth goes on about the way you talk ect. You wrote a book on manners. So?? Why does she take it that you think you are the expert?? She sells wine. You are selling your book. Your children are wonderful. As hard as it is on us, it is on them too. They are in a awkward spot where they aren't children any longer but not adults either. There should be support groups for Parents of teens! Just remember if Ramona is putting you down, you are doing great! I sure wouldn't want her crazy approval. Sending Hugs!
LuAnn.. . Keep up your class and style, it always wins . As a mother myself, children should not be involved in all of the hoopla. Take care of yourself and it will all fall in place... Stay Real...Kelly, fellow Weschester (Chappaque , Mt Kisco Res)....
There is no doubt in my mind that Mario & Ramona made that call to you. Since you're a person of substance--howz about taking away/punishing your son for failing and worse than that lying about it?
LuAnn, Understandably you were hurt by all of Ramona's jabs at you as a mother. She also started in on your children. She won't change but perhaps you should change the way you react to her. Keep it light and move on. Don't over react as this is what she wants. To dig at you. Be above it all and feel sorry for her. She is an insecure person underneath all that bravado. Just blow it off and say That's Ramona to everybody.
Luann you have your hands full with that Ramona. Stay classy and keep doing the best you can with your kids. Ramona is a hypocrite and will never admit to any wrong doing, so don't spin your wheels trying to get anything out of her of substance.
You are dressed impeccably. It's always the right outfit for the right occasion. You should become a fashion consultant or create your own line. Your clothes are beautiful and tasteful. As for Ramona, you know her right? She says whatever she wants and you will never be able to change her.
Aviva fibbed because she did not want to create an additional source for tension between you and Ramona. The way you were shown telling the other and then hurrying off made it appear that he sole reason for you meeting them was to tell on Ramona and then run off - not very classy- VERY adolescent behavior. Thank you for defending Sonja - I kept wondering where her handleer had scampered to. Your defense of her was definitely CLASSY - Well done!
LuAnn I think you're very cool, but you DID share Ramona's call with the girls. Did you miss last week's episode? Funny how it is all right there and yet everyone always says, I didn't do it. Come on now. :)
LuAnn - Ramona is not as horrible as you make her out to be. You both need to grow up and act like adults. Yes she said something wrong - MOVE ON. She apologized. You sharing with the girls was inappropriate - not that you wanted to share it, but the manner in the way you did it. You stated something and left and did not even drink your coffee. You looked very silly! Be classy!
I can totally relate to your situation with Noel and homework. It was like I was watching in a mirror with my child doing the same thing. Tell us all your tips that you used to get Noel back on track with homework. When my child "forgets" to do homework I am just as surprised. I even asked my child when the teacher asks everyone to turn in the homework and you don't have it, doesn't that remind you?
I really like you Luanne but you are passive aggressive and you need to work on that!!! Otherwise you are elegant and gorgeous!! Sometimes you just need to act it more!
Luann, love Jacques. What he sees in you is beyond me. As for your son, leave the kid alone. It's obvious you don't want to put in that much effort to guide him other than berating him on national television. He's old enough to take care of himself so why should you. You seem more interested in your boyfriend than in your kids.
Just my opinon, but I think you handled yourself very classy (as usual), and with dignity. Ramona is a little out there???? You can't get a word in.
I already told her what I thought of how she acted.
Ladies, you live in one of the most coolest places on earth, and you all seem to have MONEY to enjoy your lifestyles.
All I want to see is more of the fancy parties (with no drama, please), and what it's like to live in NYC.
If this season is going to be all about who's on who's side, and high school drama, I think I'm done watching.
I have enough stress in my life (and no money), to listen to grown women acting like high school girls.
But I respect and admire you, and I always have. You're a class act, and always act like a lady.
Wish you all the best, don't let them bring you down to their level.
From the filmed conversation between you and Ramona, it seems like Ramona did say something to you over the phone. Probably trying to get you to back off. And Ramona did apologize. But you spin it that, Ramona threatened and was black mailing you. Seriously. . . that's ridiculous!! Drama Queen!! AND if that's not bad enough. . . then you went to all the other ladies like a 12 year old child talking about Ramona. Is that you're example of class? Shame on you! Also, Ramona was TRYING to explain to you, that when you make condescending remarks, Ramona is going to come back at you with a dig. That's how the whole thing started. So take ownership for you part in starting the fight, stop with the nasty comments and Ramona will stop. Just be nice to her and that will be the end of it. Good luck!
Love your daughters work. She seems to be very creative. Victoria should be very proud. I'm sure you are too. I would love to own some but probably couldn't afford it. I did e-mail her to ask prices. We can always hope. Good luck to Victoria. Not that she needs it.
I miss Jill! I hope u too. I'm a little afraid for u with that Ramona. It is not right at all for her to be able to talk about your children. Bravo should be ashamed to air this stuff about your kids. I'm a loyal fan, but this just makes me sick to my stomach! Hang in there.
Thank you LuAnn for showing that all teenagers are not perfect! I really got a kick out of the conversation you had with Noel about his school work. I thought I was watch a play by play of the discussion I had with my own teenager.
I loved seeing, for once, a teenager displaying normal teenage behavior. To listen to Ramona and Jill describe their teens they never did a thing wrong. Perfect all the time, in every way. Gets old listening to it.
Thanks for letting us see a real family moment.
Hi LuAnn, still seeing your taking flack because of the crazy blonde... pay no attention, you're the sanest women on that show!! :)
I'm confused. How did she threaten you? She was going to spill secrets about you? If you live life honestly and you are able to sleep at night then Ramona has nothing to threaten you with.
I now know what a coward Ramona is and one day Karma will come back to haunt her. She's a lieing, hypocritcal little beast who couldn't own the fact that she did say things about your children instead she denied them and hides behind that glass of Pinot Grigio she always toting around. One day Avery will make a mistake in life and everyone will judge her like ramona judges you. That's very sad because no matter the circumstance kids are off limits. She said she doesn't care about you so write her off tell the witch to get on her broom and begone !! Ramona is not a true friend and needs to be knocked down a peg !!! KARMA BABY !!!
Lulu, you cannot force someone to ask you for forgiveness! You just can't. You were bullying Ramona into asking you to forgive her. And then you had to go and tell all the new "girls" all the gossip. Also, what happened to all your supposed class? A party is NEVER the place to confront someone like that. Specially in someone else's home. Seems you're the only one who's allowed to be classless.
STAY AWAY from Ramona. I don't know why you even decided to make up with her. SHE IS A CHILD....
I hope you find some sanity and peace in the upcoming episodes. You are a beautiful woman.
It depends, if LuAnn wants to be a snob she might find herself off the show like Jill and Kelly who are apparently enjoying their "circle of friends." I find it odd that all the new ladies heard and saw what she did gossiping about Ramona but even LuAnn contests that Aviva shouldn't have reported to Ramona. Well tit for tat or so the saying goes..if you run and tell it gets back.
I hope LuAnn reads this. I was so uncomfortable watching how you chide your son on national t.v. for falling behind in french and math. Like my daughter he has heard French since he was small and can probably speak it beautifully. My daughter's accent is impeccable. However, learning to read and write it is difficult to say the least especially the way it is taught in American schools. My daughter had difficulty with the grammar. Why don't you get him a tutor and be a little more sympathetic. He probably will be more careful appearing with you on set from now on. I hope his peers at school did not give him a hard time over that scene. You have two beautiful children. Enjoy them and spend a lot of time with them because they will be gone soon. I didn't agree with Ramona's comments toward you because I think she acts like an ass- so don't prove her right-please!
I am beginning to feel sorry for you without Jill to run to looking for justification. You had to stoop to trying to get it from the new girls. It was very selfish of you to even show up to that luncheon and make it all about you and how much of a victim you think you are and then run away. Those girls hopefully noticed that you really could care less about any of them and are indeed just trying to poison their minds against anyone who dares to call you out on your truths. No one is perfect, not even you! You just accused Aviva of running to Ramona to fib which shows the public that in fact YOU are the liar. You ladies forget sometimes that you are voluntarily on camera and the evidence was clear that you did do exactly what Aviva said you did, only she didn't reveal that you came to lunch and told everyone. It is evident in all of the seasons that Ramona in her own harsh way is trying to tell you that you are imperfect like the rest of us and you still just don't get it. You are above no one and perhaps you should listen to your own lyrics. Money can't buy you class, nor friendship, nor respect. You all run and gossip behind each others back, even you! As far as her saying you are a weekend Mother you stated that yourself first. Own it! You are the one who decided to make the comments about your sons birthday party etc. on camera, not Ramona. You are your own worst enemy. Maybe you should follow Jills lead ad bow out gracefully and quietly as well.
Avia didn't fib. You did exactly as she said. You ran to the other women and couldn't wait to throw Ramona under the bus.
It's difficult for me to pay attention to the drama because clips of you always make me laugh--in a good way. Your quip from last week, the little sing song "...but darling, it's cocktail tiiiime" was too funny, and Jacques' question about the math teacher's accent did not go unnoticed this week. You might be riding the Ramonacoaster this season, but you appear happy and as though you are letting more of the real Luann show. I still miss Alex, but hope to see more of your humor. I enjoy watching you and Ramona, but perhaps not together so much, or perhaps with less drama? The "making lemons into lemonade" thing is so last season.
LuAnn, do no feed CRAZY's crazy! Ramona is obviously disturbed, just stay away from her! OMG, I hope I will never meet in my life anybody like her :(
I really enjoy this television series, however I must say I haven't been able to enjoy the show as I had previously with the presence of these new housewives! Save your show, and eject them. My group of friends and myself agreed upon giving up TRHNYC without a change, and a twist of excitement.