LuAnn de Lesseps

LuAnn is glad Carole confronted her and she thinks Aviva should do the same to Ramona.

on Jul 30, 20120

Welcome back my friends to another week of mischief and mayhem, this time in Miami! Maybe it's the heat, or the water, or the herbs, but Aviva's dad George is something else. Things were pretty calm back in New York with the girls gone. I had a great weekend with my kids and Jacques in the city.

Ramona's behavior in Miami was pretty typical for her, a little pushy, a bit uncensored, and very energetic. I could see Ramona wearing on Aviva especially when she was ordering Aviva to get out of the pool. . .now! Why Aviva didn't tell her to back off says a lot about Aviva's personality. With Ramona, you have to say what you feel to her directly or else you run the risk of becoming resentful. Aviva was a gracious host and she kept her composure in spite of how Ramona behaved.

We can choose our friends but we can't choose our fathers and Aviva is blessed with quite a character for a dad. I thought George was charming, funny (but over the top), and I felt that he went a little overboard on the amore for Sonja's liking. Aviva obviously adores her father and she must find his antics both amusing and embarrassing. I really don't know how I would deal with a parent like George!

114 comments
marionioni@aol.com
marionioni@aol.com

I cant stand Carole. She is an out and out phony. She was married to a so-called prince from Pioland. This does not make her a princess. Kate married Prince William and she is not called a Princess.  She was given the title Duchess of Cambridge. All those know it all New York housewives should know this. Pakc of phonies including you ANDY who allows it to happen....

 

turtlewoman
turtlewoman

LuAnn, you claim Native American Indian heritage yet you shame our traditional woman by doing the WOWO and allowing your Frenchman to call us savages. Shame on you both! Stay in NYC uptown and stay out of Indian Country until you can show some respect. And Bravo should offer an apology for her comments. Who is her Elder and what are her teachings but I doubt she has ever been in a lodge with that kind of talk. Just because you wear pretty turquoise doen't make you First Nations/Native American Indian! Prove it ~~ AHO!  

sleeplessinohio
sleeplessinohio

I know people say you are full of yourself, I am not sure what you were doing on tonight's episode. I wonder do the Native American community watch this show? If I am wrong on anything please feel free to correct me. Luann wow!

hermosagirl
hermosagirl

Luann- I've always liked you.  I thought you were classy and real.  I'm surprised at your behavior this season, and not in a good way.

Smallwoman
Smallwoman

Luann is not a countess her x husband's family name is not on the list And she is divorced ..so I am sure it's against the rules that she calls herself a countess?.....

bravodip
bravodip

Gosh, I wish I could handle myself the same as Luann did with this snippy and obviously jealous Carole!

 

I was kind of "eh" about Luann since I started watching this show, but now I think I might check out her book after all.

 

She kept her cool even though Carole made a huge deal out of nothing. What makes Obama any more "important" to wear a designers line??. I think Carole is the "friend jumper' here. and seems to be a status seeker.

 

Luann keeps her cool and doesn't let anyone push her buttons. I like that.

Hogan
Hogan

@Well there you go Luann, they are YOUR friends! I think Carole reacted appropriately, you are the one who was inappropriate and your failure to see that says a lot about your elegance and class.

terrypv
terrypv

I just watched the native,indian,aboriginal clip. My husband is a a member of the Plains Cree nation of Canada (James Smith Band), and I asked him years ago what he preferred American Indian, Native American, etc. and he said that he didn't care and didn't find any of the usual names offensive.  He was even surprised when  our son's books deleted the word Indian.  Our son is a part native & Jewish (I guess like yours will be if you get pregnant) and my husband used to joke that he would be the only one going around the Pow Wow chanting in a Jewish accent as he danced.  However, he also noted that there is a great deal of predjudice against the natives in Canada as they are a much larger percentage of the population. 

 

 

HousewifeAl
HousewifeAl

LuAnn,

Finally I think we're seeing more of the *real* you these past couple of season, coinciding with you and the Count splitting up.

In our exposure to more of your real personality, it is becoming quite clear you are not exactly the person you have made it so important to present.

I've always found you to be attractive, sophisticated and polite--all along your cast mates made mention of the fact that you were hiding most of the truth about your life and personality in order to maintain your facade as The Countess.  And all the while you deflected and denied, particularly by making the other ladies look inappropriate and dishonest.  Take a look at past reunions (and even some episodes).  Ramona must always take your bullet for bringing up off-camera incidents or other circumstances in which you were behaving ultimately oppositely of what you present; but notice your friends/cast mates don't rush to your defense.  They typically remained quiet, clearly because they didn't want to be the person to 'out' you and were also seeming to assist you in covering certain things up.

None of this is to embarrass you or make you look bad.  You have made your own bed and realize that you painted yourself into a real corner.  After all these seasons, you still refuse to accept responsibility for any instance, no matter how unimportant, in which you might have hurt or insulted someone-never.  You won't even cop to talking smack to or about someone-it's always under the guise of "self defense."  We're all human, we all mess up and we all are occasionally not nice.  But your behaviors on screen don't always match what you say later.  What you have presented to the viewers is crumbling and for some, was always transparent.

Even in your blog when you mention the dress situation with Carole it's like it goes right over your head.  You are so quick to mention you have plenty of people who want you to borrow their clothes to wear; as if we didn't assume that already.  What it was about was your disregard for "class" or "manners" (which has been a running theme) when you pretty much demand certain behavior from those around you.  It was clearly embarrassing for Carole, and even the designers took notice of your behavior.  And making such a big deal out of Carole "finally" saying it to your face....no one wants to confront someone with that kind of issue; you put her in an uncomfortable situation and seemingly CANNOT merely apologize without amending it six ways from Sunday.

And you made matters only worse with the wine tasting with Ramona.  That was only to try to make her look foolish and you present it as a humorous innocent situation when the entire time you seemed determined to make it clear you were an expert!

Bethenny, Ramona, Jill......at one time or another has said if you would just be the real you, everyone would love it and embrace you.  I always agreed with that notion, but seeing now some of the *real* you, I'm beginning to see you might be a little more controversial than you would like us to think.

I'm not sure what show you're watching or what you think is happening around you, but as usual (and getting worse by the episode), your interactions with cast mates and your later interviews never quite match up.  You've become a bit of a s**t disturber as some might say..have you noticed how often you bring Ramona up in conversation?  You want the other ladies to dislike her and rather than allowing Ramona to affect people naturally (one way or another), you make mention of her constantly, even if she really doesn't have anything to do with the conversation.  Making it a point in your blog to advise Aviva on how to handle Ramona, or hounding Sonja as to why she doesn't deal with Ramona's personality the way you'd like (by ditching her, I'm sure), encouraging Heather to exclude Ramona.......it's constant and it's obvious.

Maybe you are insecure being around Carole, maybe you're not.  We all have insecurities but from a viewer's perspective, if you would drop the ego, more people would see you as sophisticated and classy which is what you're hoping for.

suzymagnolia
suzymagnolia

Don't usually, but have to say, I totally agree. You are a Countess, celebrity, and socialite in NYC. Anyone should be thrilled to have you wear their clothes. Usually I agree with Carole but she was too sensitive on this subject. You could tell her friend didn't really care that you had asked. 

tinaturner
tinaturner

I have always found you quite charming and classy. It seems this season you losing both..you don't need to talk about people behind thier back, you are clssy enough to not have to...stop one upping everyone and enjoy thier stories!

lilh
lilh

Money can't buy you class...and it seems it Louanne doesn't want to use any to buy  a dress either....

Tracirk68
Tracirk68

This seems to be a thing with you, going to the other ladies' designers and wanting them to "dress you".  Didn't you have a hissy fit because Ramona wouldn't share her designer?  If you have so many dying to dress you why do you insist on poaching on the other lady's designers? 

sleeplessinohio
sleeplessinohio

They are in the business of selling clothes, not giving them away. Honey, you are way tooooo full of yourself...good lord!

randrew
randrew

Wow, hate much???

 

Is it because she has a wonderful family, her children are smart, very well mannered, both of them are knock outs! When we do see them they treat her and Jacques(spell?) as well with respect, they're good kids.

LuAnn's got the brains and the beauty that goes with it, she's got a great cute BF that loves her AND her kids which is icing on the cake... he's a good guy.

 

She has more class in her little finger then coughramonacarolecough. She's funny, she's fun to be around. I know I'd like to party with her, she knows how it's done

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She's got a good head on her shoulders. She's stable, the complete opposite of that looney tunes idiot Ramona. Ugh oh well. Just my little old opinion

 

HotMamma40
HotMamma40

Wow, couldn't resist that last sentence could you Launn?  You are so high on yourself and it's mind boggling to me that you don't see it - even after watching yourself on tv.  You know exactly that what you did was rude, which is why you stumbled in your "explanation" when Carole confronted you.  You stepped over the line and then tried to appear that you were doing this designer a favor - HA!  I think he's been doing just fine without your help :-)

LaurainCali
LaurainCali

Luann, this guy dresses Michelle Obaba. You are not in the same realm of importance as her, whether you like her politics or not. How can you even think that you rank in the same league?  Just goes to show how full of self importance you are. Lu, your title is by marriage ONLY, and if your ex remarries....well, no more silly "Countess" title. You embarrass yourself every week, with your pompous attitude, and many of us here, in this feed, are telling you so. Maybe you should step back and tone it down. You have done NOTHING to make yourself as significant as you believe you are. Soon, you will not be publicly significant at all. And I hope that that day arrives sooner than later. For the sake of your teens, tone your attitude. You're quite bitchy and ingenuine. And your comment about living elegantly, maybe you should BEHAVE elegantly. #RHONY

heatherrose68
heatherrose68

i don't understand why you are claiming you are supporting their business when you borrowed a garment. You didn't purchase their goods.

Jettexas
Jettexas

Carole doesn't practice what she preaches . . . she's a hypocrit. She walks amongst the Occupy Walstreeters and sympathizes with their cause but she politely and contemporaneously puts you in your place. Then adds a snide remark that she and you may or may not be friends in the future. It's obvious that she excerpts the typical Liberal message of do as I say and not as I do. She's the opitome of elitist Liberal. You are more a celebrity than she ever want to be. 

Julian3
Julian3

Luann, You remain so above the fray, I love it.. The way  you have the ability to play with people, frankly, it  is all very well done.. At the reunion last year, the slight smile on your face showed some real clever wit.. the rest of them were flying around like crazy women getting all twitchy and loud.. But not you..

 

You apologized to Carole very nicely on the borrow dress thiing; she tried to make a cause celebre out of something everyone in fashion does.. Every show she is obseeing and talking smack  about you to everyone and  where evr she can. The blogs are not being kind to her, she is obviously threatened by you.. I see next week it is on the American Indian thing.. Ah the superior attitude of some people is so tiring but I see you laugh at it and that is the best thing about you.

 

You remain the most atractive and well dressed of this sad bunch-- PS Loved the wine tasting thing with Ramona.. Aviva was out of bounds stirring the pot on that one, it was so ridiculous.

karen9822
karen9822

Love you LuAnn - I don't get Carole at all, I think she is always in a mean place.

rosha1953
rosha1953

Luann  love you on this  show you're a class act to follow Carole dosen't need to protect the Kahns this is her way of meddling in your business and she's jealous of you .I would keep my distance from this one and also the Kahns , Since Rajana decided to talk openly about a possible client and what she's buying and asking for I'm sure there are better dress designers out there just wanting to let you borrow there gowns so you now know who and what you are dealing with and believe me that can be a good thing. You have a large following of fans who love you and see carole for who and what she is.  we all support you and love you on the show!!!!!!

janb55
janb55

LuAnn--can you not afford to go out and buy a dress to wear to functions anymore??

turtlewoman
turtlewoman

 @sleeplessinohio

 thanks for showing respect to our Native Peoples.  LuAnne was as wrong as her Mohawk dancers songs... 

budsma
budsma

 @HousewifeAl I agree with you 100%...I believe she is so insecure since she's not a countess anymore that she has to be the center of attention and put everyone else down to boost herself....my least favorite housewife ever....

Hecuba
Hecuba

 @suzymagnolia I don't think we're exactly playing in the same ballpark as Elisabeth von Thurn und Taxis or Princess Marie-Chantal.

silharder
silharder

 @sleeplessinohio  Here's the thing, my feelings for LuAnn (good or bad) aside, designers sell dresses BY giving them to celebrities first! Do you think anyone on a red carpet actually paid for those outfits???!!!

Hogan
Hogan

 @randrew @ I find luann brains lacking. What makes her smart in ANY of the episodes? Sheesh

Hecuba
Hecuba

 @randrew I, for one, can't understand how LuAnn can stand to be around Ramona, but that's LuAnn's choice, not mine. I just wonder what Ramona could possibly bring to a friendship.

Julian3
Julian3

 @randrew

 ONE HUNDRED PERCENT AGREE.. Carole is uber threatened for some reason and cannot stop talking about Luann obsessively.

dee01
dee01

 @LaurainCali Wasn't this same designer trying to dress Jill Zarin a couple of seasons ago?

katyama
katyama

If you are the true liberal you appear to be;  in the grand scheme of things, you would know that Michelle Obama is no more important than any other human being that exists.  The question is:  Who would look best in Mr. Kahn's dress? Hands down it would be beautiful, elegant, charming and delightful, bright, quick witted  and intelligent Luann.  You mistake her very healthy self esteem for something entirely different.   The Kahn's are allowed to befriend, embrace and adorn anyone they like...  I would venture to say that you and Carole are pea green with jealousy, yes, pea green!

marsh.48
marsh.48

 @LaurainCali

 I remember LuAnn saying she could keep the title until SHE remarries.

dee01
dee01

 @heatherrose68 Ranjana told Carole that Luanne purchased jewelry, so she is supporting their business. She also asked to borrow a dress for a photo shoot in a magazine (I think, Life  & Style) which would be good for Naeem as well. Luanne may not be the first lady or an A list actress but she is a celebrity of sort, dresses are borrowed all the time by celebrities especially for photo shoots. Besides, I am sure Luanne would do the dress justice. 

Hogan
Hogan

 @Jettexas @ are you conscious? Carole was there out of interest in what was going on and to understand the whole thing in large. Where were you?

monicabellucistwinnot
monicabellucistwinnot

 @Jettexas I don't follow you here.  Carol went to the Occupy Wall Street demonstration to draw attention to the fact (not opinion) that from "1979- 2010 the wealthiest 1% saw the share of their total income increase by 117%.  During the same period the middle class grew by just under 40%"

 

Her criticisms of LuAnn's behaviour, while I'm not in agreement on the whole dress loan request complaint,  don't have anything to do with her political ideology.  I don't see the connection between the two topics to establish a claim of hypocrisy.

 

BMBarbie
BMBarbie

@Jettexas Way to bring politics to the comment feed on a reality TV show about ridiculous women with money. Oh yes, LuAnn is a HUGE celebrity. Carole is just a best-selling author and worked as a coorespondent for ABC for years and...yeah. What a liberal elitist loser that Carole. Go Luann! Go Texas! Go Bush!!!!

malibutls
malibutls

 @rosha1953 No this was a personal friend of Carole and sorry my dear but Luann knew what she was doing.  You are not getting it.  

Jettexas
Jettexas

 @janb55

 Seriously? Luann was doing Naeem a favor by giving him the chance to feature his dresses on the front of a cover or magazine. Why should she spend thousands of dollars to wear a dress on the cover of a photo shoot  when the dress maker will get the profits . . . she wasn't the least bit out of line, I say.

jayson.smith.104
jayson.smith.104

 @silharder yeah you got it right by using the term CELEBRITY! Naeem Khan designs and gives dresses to A-LIst celebs google it and you'll see for yourself the list goes on and on!! he is among top designers its like saying Christian Louboutin would benefit and be leveraged more by giving Luanne a pair of his stilettos. Puh-LEASE! get over yourself "countess"

jayson.smith.104
jayson.smith.104

 @dee01 no? not at all. are you thinking of the designer Jill had at her house to give that preview show?

Hecuba
Hecuba

 @marsh.48 I wonder whether Mrs Alex numbers 1-3 have done the same. There could be four identical countesses running around!

jayson.smith.104
jayson.smith.104

 @dee01 no Ranjana was saying that Luanne LIKED her jewelry bc Caorle told her how she had asked for another goodie bag from the show that included a pair of her earrings! lol. she didnt BUY anything!

jayson.smith.104
jayson.smith.104

 @Jettexas HAA r  YOU serious?? This is NAEEM KHAN lol u obviously do not have any knowledge of the world of high fashion if you haven't heard of this designer. believe me he does not need Luanne to help him "profit" he is and was doing just fine. hahaha thats just a joke if you're trying to say Luanne would anyway be leveraging him by borrowing a dress. 

Hogan
Hogan

 @Jettexas @stupid. the magazine supplies the clothing for a photo shoot and would probably have a lot to say about luann picking her own...it is not done that way.

Hecuba
Hecuba

  @Jettexas It looks like a magazine that features R-Patt and K-Stew gossip, and pix of Justin Bieber.

malibutls
malibutls

 @Jettexas He does not need her, wasn't looking for any press.  Don't you know who he is?

mrsdonut
mrsdonut

@Hogan You are correct!

 

At professional photo shoots, a stylist is hired to provide clothing, not the 'talent'. The stylist is the one who goes to the designers for wardrobe. Reality television does not have a wardrobe department and the people who appear on their shows do provide their own clothing, but this was for a magazine spread. A stylist would have been hired. Anyone who thinks otherwise, is incorrect.

 

Only in a smaller commercial market, ie: outside of Chicago/LA/New York, does the talent have to provide their own clothing, unless the spread is for fashion. (I have worked in BOTH markets)