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In the end Sonja, LuAnn, Heather, and I went for dinner and we all had a super great time. It made me realize how draining and how needy Aviva is.
On our last day I wanted to stay as far away from Aviva as I could. Sadly, Carole planned an entire day at the villa where we were around each other all day. I really wished I left for the day and had done my own thing.
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Aviva is the one that is taking out her disability on you and everyone else. I have had to wear a leg brace since I was 3 years old and am now 67. Aviva doesn't know how blessed she is being able to wear any type clothes and go just about anywhere. Please take it with a grain of salt since you are the honest one.
Hold tight Ramona, I know Avita has been a bully but keep standing your ground. You did nothing wrong. You were just having fun with a long time friend, You've always had your husband first in your heart and Sonja's best no matter how much you two were goofing around. Avita was so out of line to judge you. She does not know how to be a good girlfriend. Don't let her ever come between you two. I'm so proud of the way you and Sonja stand up for one another. Vacations are for fun. Didn't she get THAT memo? You wouldn't do anything to dishonor your husband. Sonja's single. All the girls danced on the table except Luann. But it was the style of resturant. Good thing you didn't take Avita there. :)
Ramona, I love you and Sonja's friendship. At least you guys know how to have fun! Tell the other cast members to take notes and loosen up!!
Ramona you and Sonja make crack! both of you are so full of life and really entertaining.
It was so unfortunate that Aviva came to spoil everyone's fun. She should have stay home
she is the prototypical jap in a bad way. I have a lot of friends and they are not like that. She seems to believe that because her handicap she should be treated like a queen, honey, wake up a smell the coffee, it's not like that.
i think your great on the show! I enjoy your sense of humor and i think you and Sonja didn't deserve that treatment from Aviva in St. Barts.
All I have to say is - You make me laugh so hard!!! (in a good way) Between the fights you get in and your facial expressions, it's totally hilarious!!! I just love you!!! My kinda girl! I know people may get aggravated with you at times, but in the next breath, they're loving you, or laughing at some silly stuff you've done. Keep it up..Always entertaining!
YOU CAN'T WIN??? GUESS WHAT, YOU DO WIN!! I'D RATHER BE YOUR KIND OF "WHITE TRASH" THEN TO ACT LIKE THAT STUCK UP SNOB AVAVIA ANYDAY!! YOU ROCK!
After reading Carole's manner's lesson blog, I was interested in your taking the master suite. It seems she didn't happily relinquish it, but did so to keep you happy after you almost demanded it. I hope you think twice before making demands on your hostess, who by rights should have had the master suite. Your behavior in Florida was similar, as you complained about the guest room at Aviva and Reid's place. It would serve you well to learn to be as gracious and polite as you demand other people be to you. I would love to have Sonja as a guest. Alone.
TondalayoSchwartz Very true. It's been hard to like Ramona this season, although I do think that she has a good heart. Her taking control of dinner at Aviva's Miami home - where she was a guest! - was unspeakably rude. I'm sure if someone had done that at her home she would have flipped out. I think Ramona's fun to be with if she's in control - otherwise, look out.
TondalayoSchwartz I totally agree, she always has to be the front of attention and she is so loud and buggy eyed. It was so embarrassing the way she "ask" for the master suite. She wonders why people hate on her.....she needs to learn to be a little humble.
As over the top as you are at times, I still watch the show because you keep it interesting.
You and Sonia made the whole trip fun. I too have gone on a girls trip that included
huge party poopers! It was a nightmare but you two still had fun and were halarious!
The looking up on Google the term white trash was classic. Keep having fun and ignore the others.
If I go to St. Barths, I'll be asking you and Sonya. You can bet your mama's purse that the mailman on ADiva's route will be carrying a light load for quite some time. The only people inviting her anywhere will be those that missed the show. She's self-centered, egotistical, and extremely cowardly. These were all things that were apparent to me before the trip. But, she confirmed all that was already clear to see. Wow! What a piece of work she is!
Ramona, I was surprised at how calm you stayed during Aviva's outburst. It reminded me of the ''new and improved'' Ramona of a couple of seasons back. I don't know why you went back to being pushy and forcing your opinions on people, but I want the NAP Ramona back. I haven't been liking you lately. Having said that, I agree that it was a ''girls'' trip.
I've watched the first part of the melt -down several times and will probably watch the finale again. I would like to give you a high 5 on how you handled yourself. I would hope to be as calm as you were in this type of situation but doubt I would be. You've given me a lot to think about, and a different outlook, on how to handle unreasonablel people.. Thanks.
wasn't it you Miss belladonna who suggested that there is some jealousy when it comes to Ramona and Sonjas friendship ?
belladonna taffi Yes, I agree. Aviva and Ramona are exactly alike. Ramona is the one who used to have angry outbursts and made venomous digs to the other girls. (still doing it, but less so... i.e., the way she's treated Heather!)
I love you and Sonja, but you guys needed to let go of the "It's a GIRLS' TRIP! No boys allowed!" thing. The bottom line is, you guys were on a free vacation to St. Barths -- who can complain about that?? Carole should have been able to spend time with Russ without interrupting the mojo of your time together. I'm not sure why it was a big deal. Aviva's got plenty of issues, but Reid staying holed up in his room shouldn't have been a big deal either.
DangleParticiple oh, but see...he DIDN"T stay up there. have you ever been on a girls trip? Carole's guy didn't stay at the house, he was at a hotel. Reid was often in the kitchen. when i'm on a girls trip, hanging out with the girls....you run around in you nightie, your bikini, make a quick run to the kitchen for your coffee to see what girl is up for girl talk.... so, to run down there in your nightie for coffee first thing and find someones husband there.....not cool. not okay. I, like Sonja, Ramona, or Heather...might choose NOT to go on the trip if I know someone's husband is going to be on the trip....just because i'm not going to waste my time and resources on THAT trip...i'll save them for the next time...when there are no husbands. (not that i have anything against husbands...i love mine....and i go on trips with him, too.....but not when i'm wanting a GIRLS TRIP!).
I'm confused. In past episodes you always made remarks that your childhood was so hard and you intimated that you were poor, "that's why you worked so hard to become who you are". In St. Barts when you were looking up White Trash, you kept saying I'm not white trash, I grew up in a beautiful home. My life was good. So did you just make up the lies about a bad childhood to excuse your behavior?
somershousewife I don't think Ramona ever intimated that she was POOR per se, but that she grew up in a household where there was abuse. Which can happen in any household, regardless of income and class.
macombmommy DangleParticiple somershousewife My understanding was she did not want to end p like her mother, who was in an abusive relationship and was financially dependent upon her abuser.
somershousewife I might be wrong, but I think Ramona said that her mother was financially dependent on her father or step-father (can't remember which) and she didn't like that, so she was determined to make her own money and be in control of it. I don't interpret that to mean that she grew up poor.
somershousewife Yeah, Ramo is always full of excuses. Remember, she couldn't (well, WOULDN'T) go to Brooklyn to Alex's house. She used to put down Brooklyn and call them poor, blah, blah... but then told Bethany she hated Brooklyn because it gave her bad memories. She said she was poor when it suited her to be poor, then she grew up rich when it suits her to be rich! She's insecure and very fake.
This was the funniest epeisode ever Ramona and sonja googling white trash that was hysterical. thanks for the laughs
Ramona...In my opinion, Aviva was completely out of line, but I was LMAO watching her, letting you have it. It's about time you get a dose of your own medicine.
I bet you miss Jill and Kelly now.
I didn't think anyone could ever be as neurotic and idiotic as Kelly, but I stand corrected.
Romona and Sonja didn't do a thing wrong and actually kept their cool longer than most would have! I will NOT be watching next season if Aviva and Heather return.
Ramona, remember this....... The person that called you white trash allowed her crass and crude father to be filmed on this same show. Perhaps, she should have saved those words for him!
I had never missed an episode of ANY of the Housewives series until the last 2 seasons that Jill Zarin and Kelly B. were on the New York series. I removed it from my DVR and never missed the negativity. I was hoping that Jill, Kelly, and LuAnn would be removed from the show. I was excited to see new members of the cast this past season. That is, until I watched Heather and Aviva! I didn't think it was possible to be more neurotic and nuts than Kelly, but Aviva wins the award.
Hang in there, Ramona! You make the show!
@rwall5194 OMG... You wrote in your post word for word exactly how I feel. LO.L... Great minds...I wish I could hit the like, one hundred times.
Ramona and Sonja make this programme fun to watch. Aviva was so spiteful. I don't think you can't forget when people are so vicious. I even began to like Heather once she had become friends to you. If you are a nice person you always have to give someone the benefit of the doubt and I think Heather judged you negatively too quickly. I like this programme more than RHOOC now! My FAV!
Ramona, you are so fun. You were the class act when you didn't respond to Aviva's vicious comments in kind. And I'm so sorry that Reid was also so rude to you ladies. He's getting a whipping for it in the comments on Aviva's blog.
Glad you are ok but boy, you didn't deserve to go through this and never did Sonja and the others. It appears that Aviva really has deep psychological problems, not phobias. I hope you do not turn your back on her and for God's sake keep away from her as much as possible. Super creepy!
Ramona you are the best thing that ever happened to the Real Housewives. You can make me laugh every episode. I just love you!
Unless Heather does something really rude to you, please get along. I like the two of you on vacation.
Ramona you sometimes get under my skin with your hyperactivity, but you were a class act trying to appease Aviva on the Saint Barth's trip. You put up with more than I would have tolerated.
Ramona, you're not my favorite but I have to give you points on this episode. Aviva is a hot mess and even Bravo couldn't have edited her meltdown to look any worse than it did because she would not shut up. Usually it's you I'd like to shut up but this time you were fine and I really can't see what you and Sonja did that wasn't anything but humorous. Geez, Aviva has got to start getting out on her own. She likes to say as a role model that any one can do anything, even someone who has lost a leg; but I don't see her doing ANYTHING that is not totally dependent on her husband, she's afraid of life without her protector, and obviously very, very angry inside. Probably about these very things. These things do not exemplify how someone who has lost a limb can do everything just like everybody else. Her behavior and her life in general is a perfect example of the exact opposite.
You should write a book about how to be successful. You are such an inspiration for young women like me. Xo
Greetings from Illinois Ramona!
While you don't conduct yourself the way I would given the same circumstances, to be FAIR, I believe you could never have pleased Aviva, no matter what you did or said! Maybe Aviva was over medicated, to help her anxieties? Otherwise I have no idea why she would respond the way she did towards you and Ramona. I find Carole's behavior perplexing too. I cannot guess what kind of relationship Carole truly had with JFK jnr , his wife and her sister. I am aware they sadly died in a small aircraft some years ago, due to (we were told) to pilot error.
(I realize Carole's deceased husband was first cousin to JFK jnr.) The circumstances of that crash had little to do with the plane journey you ladies took on your way to your 'get-away". Yet Carole got very emotional suddenly, saying it was due to her recalling the deaths of those loved ones lost years ago, off Cape Cod. Frankly, it appeared not to be fully genuine to me. It appeared to me she simply wanted attention and she seemed annoyed not to get it! She said no one asked her WHY she was upset, but that was not so.
I can be highly empathetic, but not with drama!
Thanks for listening to my thoughts.
Ann932dogs I remember the day when I got the news that my sister-in-law had been killed in an accident. I was so shocked and distraught. My little niece was also involved and although in a coma for 1 week and she survived and is a happy and healthy little girl today. You can really say that Carole's emotions could not be triggered by conversation about Aviva's scary flight. That definitely can happen. When you are traumatized by someone's death, depending on how you dealt with it, that pain can be just a split hair away if reminded about it. I thought your comment was insensitive and totally unnecessary to say. The whole world was shocked; I can't imagine how a close family member may have reacted. Who are you to say how someone "should" react even years later in response to the death of a loved one. So crass.
I was loving the show!..at home on my own tv!...drinking wine and laughing!..and she even was a buzzkill for me!!! ha ha ha ...i cant even imagine how annoying it must have been, to be on such an awesome vacation, and to have had to deal with that one! not sure if i would have been as kind as you and sonja were... or even as tolerant as heather and carole were...not nice of "the countess" to throw you under the bus, but i think the "bus" was just ready to explode anyway..ha ha poor thing Love the show!..and love "ramonja"!!!
Let me tell you, Aviva was out of place in the St. Barts arrival, IN A BLAZER!! I live in St. Thomas, Virgin Islands returning 5 years ago from living in Southern Calif. for 23 years to take care of my mom, it's HOT! From the episode on TV, Avivia said Reid didn't have to work and if he could bring her down, she was coming. Carol and Heather said they missed her on Skype, but no invite was extended to her. She said she missed all of you and would come.Then they said yeah. She needs to lighten up and chill. OMG. Ok. But I don't understand why she has to wear her phobias and disability on her sleeve. It's always about her and she needs to get over it. This is I guess her crutch, but it gets redundant and is boring. Have a Banner why? I don't know why she lashed out on you for that when she told the other ladies, Heather, Carol and Luane and they were perplexed? She arrived so let Reid go to a hotel! I don't understand her at all and feel she's a Stuff Shirt. Calling you and Sonja White Trash then stating her education level, seemed to put her in the White Trash basket. Come on Aviva shouldn't hang out if she can't hang. It brings the dynamics down.
Ramona, you and Sonja are like my 2 girlfriends back in Calif. that I miss a lot. Just having fun talking, drinking and cooking. You and Sonja have to be selective with the Housewives. Then Avivia said something about men coming, yeah, guess she didn't hear about Luanne's triste. She will later. Then the couples dinner, why? You could have brought Mario down but that's not a GIRLS VACATION. Thank you
Anyway do you have a distributer of your wine in the Virgin Islands? I love Pinot Grigio. let me know. Also I did take offense to Kelly saying St. John was scary island. She's another idiot.
Thank you, don't hurt your head over Avivia, she's not in your catagory.
The dynamics DID change when Aviva's husband stayed on the trip. It is different if a woman is intimate with whomever and gets him outta there! BUT when couples enter into the mix of a ladies vaca, that sux!
Hi Ramona if you weren't on the show, this episode would have been a total, "Buzz Kill"! Aviva - News Flash! Ramona was VERY VERY VERY NICE to you, SHE HUGGED YOU, she called you sweetness, etc. and said how happy she was you were there. You are more than anxiety ridden, it seems as though you are trying to get Ramona thrown off the show. Your going to have to CHILL OUT Aviva and stop trying to CONTROL everyone around you and force them to bow and kizz your tukas. If you are so classy, Aviva, why didn't you apologize for calling Ramona and Sonia white trash, and double dealer. You are WEIRD Aviva. Ramona and Sonia are not white trash, and they aren't double dealers. Your giving Vassar a bad name.
Ramona you were so funny and entertaining on this vacation. Many things made me laugh but the one worth mentioning was when Aviva said you didnt make her feel girlie and she didint feel warm and fuzzy with your welcome! Your come back was "well thats your head trip"! This vacation by far was the best one out of all the Real Housewives shows.ALso
I would love to try your wine, What is the alcohol content and where can i buy in North Carolina? ( i try to buy wine with a 14.5% or higher content anything less i have to drink the entire bottle)