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I'm not buying it. Okay let's say Gretchen lied. There has to be a reason why Tamara took it so personally? Jeff's kids didn't seem to take like she did.

She gave the producers something to use. They didn't pull it out of the air. And it's great she's happy with her life but Gretchen is happy with hers as well. Tamara comes off like she is better than Gretchen because she has a husband, and children. Vicky and Tamara both justify their bad behavior. I've been a fan of the show. But I'm very turned off my her and Vicky.

Tamra,

Read post from Jeff's daughter http://www.bravofan.com/exclusive-jeff-beitzels-daughter-speaks-out-on-t... and I hope you get off on your high horse of still defending yourself for being self-absorbed. Even Jeff's daughter does not have an ax to grind about the situation and for all people, you decided who is not in any way related to them judged and still judging and trying to destroy Gretchen, and with that you did not only hurt her but her family and Jeff's innocent family. Be ashamed of yourself! Every manipulation you have backfired at you. You and that Jay person deserve it each other!

What a shame! There is absolutely no way that you can talk yourself out off this one Tamra!
Even if the season was edited to be "mean" you still said what you said! Even if you own up to every mean thing you said & did it is not enough to redeem yourself. Honestly what are we viewers to think? It was not just your words but your actions too. The horrible ugly looks on your face towards Gretchen especially when she got that Harley! And there you were with a new $35,000 diamond tennis bracelet on?
Come on!!!! You were ugly on the inside and that is what came across to everyone of the viewers. None of us will ever believe you again. Ugly is as ugly does!
Please do us all a favor and don't come back!
Deborah

I get that you had "issues" with Gretchen, but was it really necessary for you to carry on about it for so long? Even now, you're still talking about her relationships, and she's single! It doesn't matter anymore. It just sounds like you're life is boring, and you need to instigate more drama to fuel the fire. And it's even more lame that you're posting links to pictures of Gretchen with another man on your Facebook, and Simon is leaving you comments about it. I can't believe you're 41 and not 14.

I must admit at first I felt sorry for Gretchen when you were calling her out however, she never could answer your question was he a stalker or a family friend? That made Gretchen look awful! Also, the man's clothes were on her bedroom floor. Hmmm I understand that all you were trying to do is point out the fact that Gretchen wanted viewers to see her one way and she was not that way at all. I felt awful for the family of Jeff. You did not cause this mess Gretchen did by staying in the company of an ex boyfriend, stalker, family friend whatever. She is the one that caused the mess you just simply called her out. I hope Gretchen doesn't lose her 65K ring at the lake hanging with her stalker this summer because that's all she's got left of him. Again, I really did not see you as mean you really just wanted the viewers to know that she was playing us just like she played Jeff. Too bad for her.

You people are crazy! Tamra did nothing wrong here. Did you listen to what happened at all? Gretchen and Jay brought Tamara & Simon into this. Jay called them in the middle of the night further igniting a series of phone calls. What were they to do??? I would have outed her while the show was filming...Tamra is a better person than I am I guess...

Devoted caretaker, my foot...Gretchen should be brought up on prostitution charges. And she and Jay should be arrested for running a con on a sick old man.

Tamra...
Bravo can thank you for ruining their show. I have never been more turned off by a television show because of the way people acted. I understand that things are edited but you can't say the stuff didn't come out of your mouth. You are a mean and vile person who's children will go on to be embarrassed of in years to come. You should really be ashamed of yourself.
I had been a very loyal viewer of the RHOC in all the past seasons but I am happy to say that I won't be watching seasons to come.
The only thing that I gained from watching your show this season, was that when I turned off the TV, I found myself feeling really great about my life and the way that I treat others and the way that others treat me. For that, I am very thankful. You are a perfect example of how NOT to act. Again, you should really be ashamed of yourself...

Tamara,

What a shame! You are a nice looking woman but your jealousies, negativity toward the other housewives and questionable actions throughout the season have made you uglier and uglier. The vile that spewed out of your mouth, be it true or not, at the reunion show was quite disturbing to say the least! Please examine yourself as to why you sat at the reunion festering as you did and the real reasons you verbally attacked Gretchen. What did you gain by this? Personally, my feelings, negative or not, about Gretchen haven't changed by anything you said. But I am appalled and sickened by your words and actions even more. I'm also sad that the producers would even let this be shown other than to watch you, Tamara, further expose the bitter thoughts going on in your head. Personally I hope you won't be on next season. I would hate to see any other persons (especially young ones)think that watching you is entertaining and imitate your behaviors. Gretchen is like a breath of fresh air & pepperment when compared to your fetid, trench-mouth like words that culminated the season.

I wonder if you and your husband have realized yet that your petty, small-minded behavior this season may have cost him hundreds of thousands of dollars in good will. I certainly will never contribute to lining your coffers and in reading around the internet it looks like I'm not alone in that feeling.

Sorry that a silly thing like a TV show is creating this much stupid drama in your life Tamra. I think that Gretchen for whatever reason did what she did, does what she does. It's a shame that the postings on this site are just as pointless and immature as the picture people try to paint you as. These postings are all meant to be mean and attack you but are no better than what they claim you are. Keep it up Tamra because it's what makes for great TV. Tell Simon to send me some of that tequila - I'd love to have one of those nites like you all had at your party - looked like a blast!

What the hell Tamra? You seem like a total different person this season! Since Gretchen has joined the show you seem like a better old woman! I think Gretchen intimidates you and you don't like her around because she is younger and classier and way more fun and likable than you. Her personal relationship with Jeff is her business! I have seen her be nothing but fun and polite towards you! if she had lied to you, been ugly towards you or whatever, then I could see you passing judgment on her! the only thing you harp on is her personal life! as for you husband, I think he is becoming a snob as well! I think if Gretchen never joined the show, you would be acting totally different! you have so much to be thankful for, but yet you are so miserable because another woman, looks, acts, & dresses the way you want to! grow up! you are a mother of little girls! be a role model! and most of all, if you don't have anything nice to say to anyone, then do everyone a favor and shut the hell up! honestly, myself and all my co-workers would like to see you off the show, and bring back Lauri and Gretchen, and Lynn. Get a real life!!!!!!

Tamra, Last season I loved you. This season I couldn't stand you. Let those who live in glass houses throw stones. You are no saint and your attacks on Gretchen were pointless and worked against you. No matter what happened between Jeff and Gretchen it was NOT your business. And so what - Jeff was happy in his last years with Gretchen - big deal. Also don't FLATTER yourself to think Gretchen wants to be like you. Did it ever occur to you that the majority of women love Pink? Sorry you don't have a color monopoly in the OC. Oh and by the way - GRETCHEN is the hottest housewife. Boo-YA!

From Jeff's Daughter

Jill, the daughter of Jeff Beitzel was nice enough to talk to me about how the recent revelations of Gretchen’s alleged infidelity to her dad have affected her and her family. Here’s what she had to say:

1) As far as Gretchen’s portrayal on RHOC that she was a devoted caretaker, always there for him, etc, was that accurate as far as you and your family knew?

Gretchen was the only one my dad had out in California all the time so yes she was a devoted caretaker, but when she had time off because other people were out there she definitely caught up with going out.

2) Are you and anyone in your family still in touch with her?
Jake, Lizzy, and I all still talk to her.

3) How have you guys held up against all these new revelations that she may have been cheating on your dad while he was in the hospital?

Jake has been having a lot of issues with the speculations being made. All I know is what Gretchen has told me which was that Jay was a good friend who she had seen a ways back, my dad never liked that guy and obviously for a good reason.

I do believe that they had a thing but I don’t really care, my dad loved Gretchen but I’m almost certain he never would have married her. I think Jay is a selfish manipulative jerk, and just wants the exposure from the story. He doesn’t give a rats ass that when he degrades Gretchen he is also degrading my father, and that makes things a lot harder for our family to be okay with. I hold a lot of resentment for people who only care about themselves and never think about the consequences of their actions. He is a sad excuse of a human being.

Do you feel better about yourself Tamra
You are vile and pathetic!

"Holes in her story vs. Holes in your head" is the title of my post. Even if you could weave (cough cough) a credible tapestry of excuses for your behavior (such as holes in her story), you still suffer from some exhausting disconnect to reality. Thus I allow you the "holes in your head" defense for all other inexcusable behavior! Nuff said

Tamra
if you are sincere about the things you have said and done not only to Gretchen, but others. Why did you post a link to mydirty on your facebook about Gretchen and write things like
"the truth is coming". Admit it you are STILL trying to destroy her. The thing is so what if Gretchen was screwing around on Jeff. Why is it your business at all? It sure can't be about morals as we have seen your lack of them.
Do you even think of what this is doing to Jeff's children? You came off bad at the reunion and all season. You look like you've really aged and have become hard. Anger and jealousy will do that to a person.
Just remember karma will bite you in the butt. You have pissed off so many people its only a matter of time before the dirt is dug up on you.

Tamra- sorry, but your explanation is a little too much, too late. Why do you care what Gretchen does? It seems like you looked for reasons to support your theories instead of listening to the very reasonable explanations for what happened with the phone calls, etc. And Gretchen, like many people who have lost someone to cancer, was in denial about the fact that he would actually die. I felt that she held hope for him until the very end. So- if she took a little time off here and there, who are you to bash her for that? Apparently you have never been through a very close loved one dying from cancer. I have, and it is exhausting in every way, physically, mentally, and emotionally. She seemed to genuinely care about him- sorry, that couldn't all have been "convenient editing". Just as, while you say that you were edited to look bad- you did actually say those things, and act that way. Even at the reunion show, where you started off all humble and apologetic- you couldn't keep it up, because the whole thing was a facade. Your true feelings and personality came out. Gretchen handled your attack with class and restraint.
I'm sorry that you did not have a good relationship with your father- but frankly, I've known a number of people who were in the same boat who did not turn into self-centered, hostile little witches.
And PLEASE do not say that you were not whoring your son out to try to trap Gretchen. Your son's behavior with older women is not cute, it's disgusting, as is the fact that you seem to condone it (again, where do you come off as trying to present yourself as the "morality police" when it comes to everyone else?).
You are a very, very angry woman, which you proved when you exploded at Gretchen, using language in a very public situation that no "moral" person would use. Maybe instead of etiquette lessons, you should invest in finding a good therapist to help you deal with your issues so you don't constantly turn that self-hatred and hostility onto innocent people.

Tamara,

Why did you believe a stranger calling you in the middle of the night? I have friends do some things I was not happy with them at that time but can still be friends you are one jealous woman. Gretchen may not be perfect but she sure is nice, always happy always was nice to you, you reap what you sow. I have always wanted to ask you this question, why did you get divorced the first time?Did he not make enough money for you? was he poor? I think you have some serious issues yourself, and where did you grow up? Why are you so worried about what Gretchen was doing with Jeff when you had no idea that what your father was living like. You and Vicki deserve
each other......

Bottom line Tamra, it was none of your business what type of relationship Jeff had with Gretchen. If he was paying her to take care of him that was his business. Why would that bother you? Because you were not on the receiving end of lavish gifts as Gretchen was?!? Jeff was married five times and had many mistresses over the years. He did not fall off a turnip truck. The guy had been around and knew the game. Tamra should worry about Tamra. Your actions towards Gretchen were nothing more than thinly veiled jealousy and envy. With regard to the homo comment, that was just one of hundreds of inappropriate and offensive comments you made...maybe you should apologize for all your rude remarks. You honestly think a man is gay because he wears flip flops. Wow, how shallow you are. Didn't your mother teach you to never judge a book by its cover? Honestly I am still trying to figure out how you got on the show because you don't even possess one iota of class that the other women do. You are an imposter and not a good one. Clean up your own life before you start degrading other people. Practic what you preach....it will set you free!

Tamra: Thank goodness you are coming to terms with your faults and your bad manners... With our economy nosediving, I watch this show for escapism and as a means to relax. This past season was like watching a car wreck over and over again - NO FUN!

I hope BRAVO takes heart and you all think long and hard in going into the new season and bring more LOVE to the show. Maybe less drinking, cat fights, judgements and more healthy things like charitable functions that give back to the communities at large. Many people are losing their homes and women and children who are not prepared are having to endure a living HELL. While I am not asking you all to change into "Mother Teresa's" - you each have a mighty platform to give viewers HOPE!

I pray you are able to live up to this task - we need you more than ever to be bigger than yourselves!

Tamra, I can't believe how fake you are. It seems to me that you really want to be in the
show and will say and do anything to do so.

It is not any of your business what Gretchen does. You have no right to judge her. It is obvious that Gretchen and Jeff loved each other. We don't care what type of love it was. It was their business. Who are you to judge her. Who cares what you think.

I am sure that Gretchen has many defects but she sure is a good person. She was never mean to any one and she is fun to watch. You were so evil to try to destroy her in public. You can try all you want....this will never happen...The audience knows better.

My good advise for you is to put your life together and don't pretend to be the very wealthy woman that you are not.
God Bless You

if you had a problem with Gretchen..about her ex...stalker or whatever you should have talked to her...in private...not on the show..the reunion...whether is true or not..you did it to undermine her..humiliate her...make her seem...like a slut...

everyone deals with sickness...death in their own way..and i believe gretchen and her love for Jeff is not up to you to pass judgements.

I am sorry to tell you..YOU WERE JEALOUS..all along GRetchen is the hottest housewife and that burned you up throughout the whole show...just face it...

and you want it to get back at her...for stealing your thunder...

shame on you...

Hello
I watched the reunion and I have to say - Tamra you are real in your feelings and only shared to everyone what everyone already knows..... Gretchen has and was dating Jay Photglow the entire season and he was not her "stalker" he was and is her boyfriend.
Poor Gretchen, her dirty little secrets are out and it is sad that she USED Jeff to be on this horrific show just for her 15 minutes of fame! I hope she is happy.

Thank you Tamra for shedding light on the situation and exposing her - Yes, Gretchen is pretty but that only gets you so far when you are as shallow as she is.
I hope Jay knows what he got himself into -

Not to mention, Gretchen has a horrible laugh!!!!

I think the reunion shows just how mean you really are. Regardless of what you think Gretchen has done you would do anything to make her look bad. You have been that way since she arrived. There are some things that need to be said and other things that should just be kept quiet. Its not always a good idea to air dirty laundry. Even if you are right it always comes back to make you look like the bad guy. And was it really worth all that.