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Vicki Gunvalson

Two Different Ideas

Vicki reacts to finally seeing how the other 'wives reacted when she and Donn left Lynne's dinner party.

February 4, 2010

Welcome back, we are more than halfway through the season and I hope you are enjoying it. Well this week's episode the emotional crying starts with me. I tried very hard this season NOT to get involved with petty drama that didn't really have an effect on my life. I didn't socialize with many of the women this season, but unfortunately I got into a situation with Simon that I couldn't get out of which left me leaving the dinner party crying. At 47 years old, the last thing I want to do is leave a friend's home in tears. It's not fun especially when there are cameras in your face!

When Donn and I were invited to Lynn's housewarming party, I thought it would be a nice casual Sunday night dinner party and was looking forward to it. I never intended for anything to go down the way it did. I wasn't nervous about seeing Simon; I was actually hoping we would give each other a hug and put any harsh feelings away, but obviously that didn't happen.  Simon somehow wants to blame "someone" for his marriage problems and the only one he felt he could point his finger at was me. I know Tamra was torn between Simon and myself and that I'm sure was a difficult spot to be in. HOWEVER, once I saw the footage on what went down after Donn and I left was disgusting. I guess it teaches you even as an adult, to be careful when you walk out of a room what people are going to say about you. Never in a million years would I have guessed Tamra to be so rude and disrespectful to me and our friendship.  When she says she has my back, I'd hate to see her when she doesn't have it. Guess her idea and my idea of being friends are "two different ideas" … as Donn would say! 

Alexis ... hmmm to say she overreacted to Donn and I pretending to snore during her 15-minute ordeal of how she met Jim is an understatement. The way she acted was ridiculous and childish. We were just joking, and pretending we were snoring was only an attempt to get her to move her story along and speed it up. Her description of how she met Jim and what she was wearing and what drink she was drinking was ridiculous because she thought every last detail was important for us to hear. She definitely wants all eyes on her and to tell you the truth I can't do it anymore. The woman drives me crazy.

When Tamra tells the group at the table that "I'm lacking something and [I'm] a very jealous person" made me very sad. I think everyone can agree that we ALL are lacking something and no one is perfect so I don't know what she is referring to. The fact that she said I am a very jealous person is farthest from the truth. I am grateful for my family, for my life, and for my career, and am not jealous of anyone or anything! I wouldn't want to be in any of those people's lives and am completely happy with mine. She claims she is my friend? I would NEVER speak about her the way that she did about me. It was really sad to hear that come from her mouth when all I have ever done is support her and be a good friend to her.  

What the viewers didn't see is how Donn and I met which we did explain to everyone but it didn't make the editing block. Donn and I both worked at Wickes Lumber in Vernon Hills, IL back in the early 1980s. He was a lumber buyer and I was his secretary. I had only been married for a few months when we met, and I remember thinking "I married the wrong man." I was only 22 and he was 31. He stayed at Wickes for just a few months and then moved to California and we lost contact with each other (there was no Internet at the time). I ran into him nine years later at a local restaurant in Barrington, IL and he asked me if I was divorced yet. I couldn't believe it because I had already filed and was getting the divorced finalized within the next few weeks. He gave me his business card and told me to call him when we were finalized. I called him once it was finished and we dated for 2 1/2 years before he asked me to marry him. We were married 15 years ago in IL and moved to Southern California two weeks after we were married with the kids.

Comments

1463 Comments

I truly hope you don't get divorced. I've watched the show off and on and I love how you guys (you and Don) played at the river and raised your kids. You need to remember how good you are together. I'm thinking you 'had it' when you married, you 'had it' while you were married raising kids (always ups and downs with those of course). Me and my husband are in your same position and we're working through it. We set aside time to spend together and there is no pressure allowed. Just 2-3 hours of us. We learned that you have to talk about kids and work (obviously,because our lives revolve around those things) but it has to be positive. So bit by bit with some positive talk and alone time eventually the talks about dreams came through and we're realizing how great it is to spend a life together.

I like you and your husband....but -

Your snooze fest with Don at the dinner table while Alexis was telling her story was bottom line - rude.

You both need a wake up call if you don't see that as being, at the very least, rude.

You defended those actions (at the reunion) by calling them "funny" while nobody else thought so or was laughing.

If you thought it was "funny", I'd think you were laughing "at" and not laughing "with" because she evidently was hurt by it...

Not cool.

vicki,you say you're not jealous of the other housewives but you're actions prove otherwise.And for donn I feel sorry for him,he says what he thinks you want him to say, for instance at the dinner party when you left the room and everyone was talking about the girls' weekend and how some of the guys showed up and vickies reaction to it, and you were asked how you felt... at the same time vicki comes back to the room and you say "I have a job, I work" as you look towards vicki for her approval, it was sad to see a grown man act that way. I think you've beat him down over the years. Lay off him and the other housewives and maybe you wont look like such a bully.

U need to keep your nose out of other peoples bussiness and especially thier marriages.

Vicki,

I think you are awesome.....totally awesome. Tamara did not seem to be a good friend that night at the dinner table - although I knew then and know now for sure that she was just putting on a show for Simon. I hate to see a marriage break-up or any good relationship - yet I feel she could have been a little less harsh about her feelings that night. You are a great person - I love the fact that you and your husband have worked through issues in your marriage it goes to show you that money does not make you happy but effort, heart, and love will bring you through those tough times. I pray your family and you have much success and continue to be happy and healthy.

Take care and God Bless

- T.D.

Hey Vicki,

Love your show. Was watching rerun of the reunion show last night and I was shocked at your reaction when your daughter said that she wanted to go Korea. What's wrong with that? I'm not Korean but I feel that was ignorant. South Korea is one of the leaders in the world as far as economics and technology. Where have you been in the last 20 years? I lived in Korea for 3 years and was blown away by the fastness of that country. Did you mean North Korea??? Even if you did, why would someone enlisted in the US army be stationed in North Korea???? Either way, go out there and get cultured. Get educated!

If you want to dish it out (and i'm sorry, you do, you must learn how to take it. I know, we wish it was different but no....

Hey Vicki. I think Your Smart, And Blunt. But i dont think you was looking forward to giving Simon a hug and putting away any harsh feelings, ( Sorry if im wrong i just dont think you really was thinking or feeling that ). Simon and Tamara Have their own little relationship, and i do believe you try to be alittle bossy at times. And going to sleep at the table when Alexus Was speaking was "Extremly" Funny, But at the same time, very rude. I dont think you should have did that, and definatly not said I WORK, DON WORKS, ETC. kept throwing up the fact that you work. It seemed as if you where somewhat rubbing it in the other housewives/husbands face.

Vicki, I just got finished watching reunion pt. 2. It took me a while to get up the courage to watch it because I knew I was going to get angry; and I did. Look... the problem is that you are older and wiser than those women. They are younger and have not had the life experiences you (and I) have had.
I cannot stand Alexis. I too am a Christian and am very strong in my relationship with God. Her behavior at times is not that of a Christian woman. We, as Christian women, should always strive to be like the woman in Proverbs 31; she is not even close. The way she and Jim behave is a mockery of my faith and the Lord Jesus Christ. I am ashamed.
Whether you decide to return for a 6th season will make an impact on some viewers, but not me. I can no longer watch The Housewives of OC any longer. It just isn't the same. The addition of Alexis combined with Jeanne leaving has certainly caused the show to hit bottom.
You are great person and you should be very proud of your family and your life. God has certainly blessed you. Always give Him the glory for that.

Heya Vicki,i have misjudged you-you've come a long way babe. I see you in a whole new light-just saw the episode at Lynn's house-I'm from Canada eh-so we get you unreal housewives on slicetv about 5 episodes back-loved your renewal wedding and saw you cryin in the limo from that party at Lynn's -glad to see your human-hope you see Jeana soon -she was your true friend-Don is a true gentleman and he loves you so!

Vicky
you make them all yellow with envy......I am such a fan of yours.I miss Jen.....the other wives.....ar such money hungry show off's.Don omg you two make such a great couple ..love you both.Stay strong you are amazing.....you have such a wondeful family

Vicki I was sickened by the comments your so-called "friends" said about you. First off Simon's only problem is he is threatened by you and your honest to goodness beautiful marriage to Don. He realizes that you are a strong and beautiful person and I honestly do not believe that his dislike of you is anything to do with you as a person. His issues are based on nothing but a fear that by Tamara seeing a marriage that is loving, strong, honest and with NO Lack OF TRUST and a woman who is educated, strong, self sufficient and modern in her beliefs about marriage, that this alone may cause his wife to see that her marriage is so 1950's and lacks everything that a happy and long lasting marriage requires. Tamara is fully controlled by Simon; she has no mind of her own and obviously, proven by her actions at this party, is unable to form her own opinions. Vicki I look up to you, I am a single mom, 28 years old and nothing would make me happier than to be like you and have a marriage like you and Don have. When you got upset after the party my heart broke and I just want you to know your better than any of those mindless people are. Obviously, Tamara is no friend of yours and I would truly revaluate your relationship with her, you do not need her or anyone like her for that matter. Please don't doubt yourself your a beautiful person inside and out. Anyone would be so lucky to have a husband as wonderful as yours and a marriage as solid....

Best of Luck,
Amanda Vaters

Hello Vicki...I think that you are a wonderful person...I love watching you on the show...If you leave, I will not be watching the show anymore, but I do understand how you feel..Do not let those bitches run you off the show...YOU ARE ONE OF THE ORIGINAL O.C.'S AND THE QUEEN...But if you decide to leave, I will miss you... YOUR SANITY, YOUR FAMILY AND YOUR WORK COMES FIRST....

Vicki, I understand totally how you feel, because you are really the only financially independent woman in the whole group. Also, you have the strongest personality of the group and that is not so much a bad thing. You are a decision-maker and the rest are not gifted in that way even though they try to act as though they are decisive.

Vicki,
Enjoyed reading about how you meant, and married Don. Together, you have raised two beautiful grown children, and enjoy a wonderful lifestyle. You are such a wonderful role model. I'm looking forward to season six.
I have enjoyed watching you, and the other O.C. Housewife's over the last five years. I enjoyed seeing Jenna and Lauri with you at the BBQ. All of you are such Beautiful Classy Ladies.

Vicky, you probably don't mean any harm but you have to realize how things come across. For instance you were very annoyed with Alexis for being on the phone with her husband over dinner. Then the next day you are on the phone over lunch. That is a little bit of a double standard and that is why Alexis was making faces that started when the whole lunch blow out happened.

Vicki, i felt so bad for you the way they all ganged up on you at lynns dinner party and you and Donn werent the only ones bored by Alexis's story, all of us viewers were just as bored with it! You should be very proud of yourself and Donn with the way you two handled it. I had really thought that Tamara was actually a good friend to you up till that show. It seemed like she purposely pushed the issue with you and Simon, even when you told her you wanted no drama, she kept pushing and pushing the topic. I think they are all jealous of you. You have a great career, a super loving and adorable husband that loves and respects you very much, your a great mom with great kids to be proud of!!!!! WAY TO GO VICKI

vicki........u..r..my favorite on the show.you r..truly misunderstood...by the viewers and the other housewives.... i hope you stay on the show...you r.. a real person i love that..i think they r..all jeluose of you.......patricia

i like you VIcki you are not perfect , but i like that you are real and say what you feel
i think you are independent and a go getter ... stay focused and don't adhere to the ignorant people

Vicki, I have never written a blog in my life but after last nights reunion show I just had the need to let you know that you were right, everyone was ganging up on you and I felt alot of sympathy for you. Please don't leave the show on account of anyone else, you are a strong woman, don't let them knock you down. I feel if you leave then Slade and Alexis just get what they want. Keep your chin up!

I love love love the black dress you wore @ Lynne's Dinner party!!! You looked fantastic in it!!! Can you PLEASE tell me digner of dress or where I can purchase this stunning & sexy dress!!! Thank you so much, Kimberly :-}

Vicki,
In my opinion you keep it real. The rest of the housewives are fake, especially Tamra. You need to drop her as a friend. I am so glad you seen the footage of the way she dissed you after you left the party. She says one thing to your face and something else behind your back.
You seem to be more down to earth than the rest of them. I don't even know what to say about Alexis. To me, she is just a bitch. She thinks she is all that and she isn't. All I can say is, Vicki don't change. I can relate to you compared to the rest of them.

Vicki. Tamra is far from a friend. Don't even sweat that. she is the only unhappy one with those crocodile tears. I must say she has been an actress this season. Wats up with that...

Hi Vicki, I enjoyed reading how you and Donn met. We had a family business in Vernon Hills while Growing up and I grew up/still live in Barrington!! Glad to hear you still frequent the area!! Rock on chicago girls!

Vicki,
Please dont ever consider Tamara as your friend. If Tamara was your true friend and felt you are rude sometimes, she should have approached your in private and not ganged up with other women who are not your friends. When you made the comment "My husband works" the other women got offended because they know they dont work. If the shoe fits. Keep being the way you are. The other women only are intimidated and ever wish they were as smart and successful as you!!! By the way, I agree when you say that Alexis is a classless trash. She has no class at all!!

I agree that Vicki was a bit harsh with HOW she stated the "working" comment. However, I believe her intention was not to say that the others do not work. It was specific to the reason why Donn did not attend the trip. He was working & it was a "Ladies/Girls" trip. PERIOD. All relationships need time away from the spouse or significant other to be healthy. The co-dependency with Tamra & Alexia with their spouses is border line un-healthy. Whatever works for them, I suppose. Apparently it is an eye-opener for Tamra this season, thus the divorce issue. I do not believe stay-at-home mothers should be considered NON-WORKING either as that is a HUGE & IMPORTANT position within the home, but I do not agree with having nannies if you do not hold a job outside the home. Why are they needed if you are "at home" being a mom? Tamra was completely two-faced & not a true friend to Vicki after that dinner party. Glad Vicki was able to see that. Hang in there Vicki....you have good things going in your life!

You are right to be proud of yourself for working and not spending 2-6 hours a day on your body at the gym! You look very beautiful and obviously have a love for your husband and children. You definatly have better things to do! Your priorities are right, and I see your frustrations, especially with a birthday party at ten a.m. during a work day. That wouldn't go down where I am from, either. Most of us 'moms' would be working. If we didn't have a profession, or had the most lovely "job" of all as a stay at home mom- we would hopefully not be out boozin' it midday while our husbands or parents or expensive nannies could watch the kids. I just don't think that would go down well-

FINALLY a reality show where someone is REAL. Vicky doesn't need to sugar coat it and maybe if more people were as upfront as she is there would be far less pedestals to tip-toe around. You go Vicky, never say anything behind their back, that you wouldn't say to their face. Tamra's a manipulator and a liar.

Vicki is a busy body, she could dish it but she can't take it wawawa

Vicki,
You come off as a mean lady, who easily can critize people, but cannot take criticism herself. You reek of low self esteem, but you would never have enough strength to admit it. Jeana was the best OC Housewife. Please consider leaving Calif, and go back where you came from. You don't even look like an OC Woman. You may be mean because all the other Housewives are so much prettier than you, and you can't handle that.

Vickie, I think you internalize to much! You are an exceptional woman... me and my husband admire your tenacity and focus on how you are independent and own your own business. I think you need to relax more.. and not worry about who or what is said about you. Girl you own it! I do think that the other husbands are and want to control their wives. You and your husband have a very adult relationship! You are independent of each other.. and you know what, as a Latina ... men have a tendency to try to own you... and I can understand your personality. Your husband is ok with who you are.. I just feel that the other husbands are worried that their wives will wake up one day and figure it all out!!1 Or eventually get tired of being controlled. Don't fret it.. you have a friend in NY... you can always come to the East Coast.. you are in my friend que.. as I admire you the most on the show.. and you are a role model for many women!!!

Vickie, I think you internalize to much! You are an exceptional woman... me and my husband admire your tenacity and focus on how you are independent and own your own business. I think you need to relax more.. and not worry about who or what is said about you. Girl you own it! I do think that the other husbands are and want to control their wives. You and your husband have a very adult relationship! You are independent of each other.. and you know what, as a Latina ... men have a tendency to try to own you... and I can understand your personality. Your husband is ok with who you are.. I just feel that the other husbands are worried that their wives will wake up one day and figure it all out!!1 Or eventually get tired of being controlled. Don't fret it.. you have a friend in NY... you can always come to the East Coast.. you are in my friend que.. as I admire you the most on the show.. and you are a role model for many women!!!

Vicki you are by FAR my favorite housewife!!!!

I just started watching this show with my Mom, this is really the only show I have time to watch. As for Vicki I totally agree with you. You work as I do, so sometimes its hard to socialize with friends. I have two jobs Im in networking and also in the dental practice. I think your great and keep up the great work! Jamie

Hi Vicki!

I completely understand what you were trying to say regarding the other housewives not working BUT... how you said it was insulting and degrading. As a business professional who is a single mother and works long hours, it is offensive to me how you portray our club of girls. I would NEVER in a public or private setting with my friends or acquaintances disparage a mother with the primary responsibility of raising her children - not employed outside the home. It is, by far, a JOB that should be respected and revered. You came off as jealous and resentful that you were not allowed the same provilege (to stay home). You really need to get over your big bad self. I am offended, as I am sure many other working, professional women are, by your characterization of success. There is so much about you to respect. Your treatment of people around you is not one.

As my mother says, "There is a way to say everything.... Make your first attempt your best attempt!"

Hey Vicki, I'm a long time viewer of the show. I have to say you were very kick ass in this episode. I love going away on a trip every year with my girl friend and couldn't imagine ever giving that up or having a spouse/bf insist on coming too. I think in a healthy relationship you should have that time away with your female friends. It's good for the soul and helps re-invigorate you. So I felt for you when your girls' trip turned into a confusing mess. I actually cried in this episode with all of the sweet things you did for Don and how much he appreciated it. This really made me love my situation more being divorced and independent than back when I was married and in an abusive, controlling relationship. So, thank you! For helping me celebrate being out of that situation and demonstrating that there's hope for a healthy, successful future and that there's good men out there. This was definitely the sweetest moment on any Real Housewives show.

Vicki you need to keep the issue that Tamra shares with you and not wagging your mouth.Keep out of it.If you don't have good to say don't say it..They are married and still love each other.You need to stop dipping into their marriage and respect what Don has to say KEEP OUT...I wonder why don't they pray about it and leave it with Jesus. He is the problem solver.Not you...Please stop looking down on others and embrace people for who they are or just quit the show..You need to thank God for His many blessings that He has bestowed on you...You are not better than anyone....You came into this world with nothing and you leave with nothing.Just enjoy at your age you need to loosen up and smell the roses...Everyone works and you need not to throw it in the other faces...I like the show, at times wonder why you people are so miserable with all that you have.It shows that money just cannot buy everything.You all are lacking alot inside..My suggestion is to know God and get close to Him and His son Jesus Christ.He will deliver you all from the inside...

We confide in our friends not to blather it out to our respective spouses but to talk. Seriously, it was pretty cold of you to even get in Simon and Tamra's situation. Next time just shut up, that is why no one wants to be your friend because you talk SO much friggen smack and that is why you run and cry because you can't listen to criticism. You entered that party with a chip on your shoulder and despite saying that you weren't part of the problems in Simon and Tamra's relationship, you sure did mention it a lot. I am getting so sick of you going on about your business blah blah blah, people work, it is a common basis of life and yeah, Alexis's story was long but so is your nonsensical droning on about your job. You work. We get it. It doesn't make you Mother Theresa. Stop running and crying whenever things don't get your wy and hire a better make up artist, you look tore up from the floor up.

Hey Vicki - My husband's name is Donn (yes, w/ 2 n's) also! I do think Tamra feels she has to stick by her husband - he does seem like he could be manipulative - and she has to live with him. I think Tamra is genuine in her feelings for you and your daughter. In the future just keep things between you girls.

As far as the "work" thing - I think people were being a little too sensitive and took the point too hard. I was a Stay Home mom and although it is work, being outside the home adds more pressures for you to handle. You are dealing w/ 2 mentalities - the Stay Home ("I work" - attitude) and the possible "guilt" of being pampered or provided for. They have more time to let their imaginations go off track also because your mind can go nuts staying home.

This show lives for the drama and I do think that you appreciate how much things cost and don't just g That also affects the way you feel about your relationship and that you do love Donn and you don't have to "submit" to him, so to speak. I'm babbling, but remember. . .

Take it all for what it is and keep your daughter and your husband first priority. I'd be happy to be your friend any day! Keep your chin up!

Pleeeaase get over yourself Vicki! You need to realize how hurtful you are to other people and OWN IT! Your friend Tamra was right on the money. This was the first time someone called you on your crap and you just had to run away. You hurt peoples feelings all the time and you just don't care. You calling Alexis' trashy just shows how classless you are. You are the trashy one! OWN IT!

vicky is icky she is really not nice ... i dont know what you ppl have been watching but vicky is a very awful person. she makes herself feel better by pointing out the bad in the other housewivies. and i think that vicky's husband is a strong man because he deals with her and i give him two thumbs up for still being with you, i hope someday you treat him like the man he is and not a boy. ooo and i think Tamra and Simon should blame Vicky partly for their divorce.

Vicky, I support you, love you, and hope your daughter's health will get better and better

I think Vicki is constantly trying to stir up trouble with her little jabs and put-downs at the other ladies. She is always saying to Tamera.....I don't give a rat's tail about your marriage...but she can't seem to keep her nose out of it. She is clearly jealous of Alexis. The first thing she said when Lynne tells the ladies of her eviction woes is NOT.....I am so sorry.....but......she criticizes her for living beyond her means. She is NOT a true friend.

It's nice to hear how you and Donn met. Both of you have carved out a very good life for yourselves. Be happy with that and consider thinking about what you say to the other housewives before it comes out of your mouth and it's too late to take it back.

Vikki, you are a control freak. You think everyone should live the way you want them to. You're jealous of your friends, and thats your problem. You are not the person everybody thinks you are. Hope all goes well with your daughter.

Vicki,
Every episode, your attitude says that you think that you are better than everyone else. You think they are stupid, they don't work, etc., etc. You are really mean to everyone. You can dish it out, but you can't take it. What? You can talk on your cell phone, but no one else can? You want everything to be about you. When it's not, you get mad. Think about it. Really watch your behavior in the episodes with an open mind. Look at how you behave. It's not pretty!

Firts most of all, Vicky,to be honest, you were the least favorite, housewife for me, but l had noticed the change, and the way you truly are, the way you did a turn around with your husband, i really saw that you wanted to make it work, i used to loved the housewife when jeanna was in, back then, i think it was felt more like there was really sincere frienships. About Tamra, she dont look like a bad person, but the way she always react to grechen, MAJOR JEALOUSY, why is she saying you are a jealous person, When since the beggining, she's been attacking,grechen, for obvious reason,"JEALOUSY".
And l wish Brianna the best of health, shes a sweetheart.
I see you are the main one, who should stay, and cause i think without you, the HOUSEWIFES OF ORANGE COUNTY, would turned out to be THE HOUSEWIFES OF BORING COUNTY, LOVE YOU, VICKY.

vicki ur the only person i lock up to your a great mom and wife. your a very strong women you remind me of my mom. and myself very strong women... i started laughing when alexis says that she works taking care of her kids... well i dont call that taking care of your kids."omg and when she says that she is real big into her church, well she should give a good example and stop beeing a big drama queen... well just take care of your family and keep doing what your doing you should be so proud of your kids there gowing up great. hope everything comes out great with brianna

I must say Vickie you are the only normal one on that whole show, i wish alexa and her husband would just disappear she works so hard with her nannies --give me a break, and lynn is sickening with her spoiled brat daughters, her husband should leave all of them. i used to like gretchen the best but now your my favorite, i have a problem with her moving on after jeff died, for someone you are supposed to be n love with- not even cold and shes already moved a man in and i do believe she probably had someone before he died. These women need to grow up and get a real life- lynn has all that financial problem but she can spend over 1,000 for a jacket- give me a break

those women are pitiful. Vicki, sometimes you are blunt but at least you have some depth of character, those women have no depth of anything but their material goods and their boobs...interesting coincidence?

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