In closing I was gonna split until I read a post by (Nancy Pierce 2-24-12) who came away with something I distinctly noticed as well.

So FWIW Tamra, it seemed pretty obvious how your emotions became naked to the world on how obsessed you were with not losing Eddie over the physical contact conflict you had with Eddie & Vicki.

You had every right to feel how you did and it was not class at all how they acted in front of you.

That said Tamra, with no disrespect it saddened me to see you react to this incident with Eddie in a way that was groveling with not much self-respect for your own self-esteem.

As an adult male, and this is me speaking for me only, has a tendency to turn men off, and at least for me anyway became scary enough to run away from having a more serious relationship with that woman because it demonstrates too much insecurity about how you feel about your own self-respect almost to the point of groping for forgiveness, when Eddie was clearly out of line and the one who rightly shold of been the one needing forgiveness for his behavior.

Not good Tamra! It's been my experience, either for you or him & your own self-efficacy for developing to have truly meaningful relationships with men.

I suspect this comes from prior bad relationships you've had with other men especially starting out in your adult life with a child at such a young age & so much responsibility. I know from my own experience having been in love, that when my mate tells me she loves me, I can't think of ever a time when I did not acknowledge that and reciprocate with saying I love you too.

Because men who love their woman understand how important that is to women. And the fact Eddie said he loved anyone, but said it in the context of friendship to Vicki, but did not say it back to you, is not insignificant. Just something I observed and I suppose you’re already cognizant of when he didn't reciprocate at the time.

I have watched this show from the beginning and watched how all of you have evolved. I do miss Jeanne as I used to think both her & Vicki seemed to be the most level headed & down to earth of the bunch as you were going through a lot at the time with Simon

You have no idea the therapy you provide for me because my entire child development & as a young firefighter for what was then CAL FIRE in Trabuco Canyon where I worked near Coto in the late 1960's & 70's was the most fun time of my life & where my 1st family was started.

Your group is my only lifeline to a world I grew up in at times and at Coto I used to respond with our Engine as your first fire department before it became Orange Co. Fire & then Gov. Brown pulled us out.

You all bring back so many memories of a world I can get lost in for 60 minutes every week and why I have every episode on disk.

ORCO will always be a home in my heart having been born at St. Joseph in 1955 in Orange and living in North Tustin & Newport Beach most of my adult life until 1994 when I couldn't tolerate the smog & population density anymore-I still terribly miss the life I had there until it changed so much.

Growing up we used to ride dirt bikes in the hills where you all reside when Coto used to be a popular area for duck hunters & had a Duck Hunting Club there. ORCO was all ranches & farmland back then. You live in the best climate region in the world.

Tamara, Edie is a lucky guy and believes he knows that.

I was impressed with your pink-lock box you presented to Gretchen and it demonstrated both your maturity as a woman and the reality that life is too short to put any energy into those things about our humanity which has no place, because all it serves is to fuel negativity & bad feelings which no one can enjoy in life. Your sense of honor, dignity & honesty to be the one to move forward & accept responsibility for your part in the relationship in my opinion allows for one to grow and develop for being a better person & enjoy more meaningful relationships with others

The last thing, was since I do care what happens to you and only want what’s best for the whole group, and that is because of past relationships & your experiences, I was saddened by how much it seemed your insecurities showed with personal relationships you are in with Eddie, being so scared to lose what you have-almost to the point of obsession.

It's not for me to judge you- but as an observation & something you may already be aware of in your own self-assessment-but your saying to Eddie your need to be your own woman to stand on your own feet both emotionally, financially & professionally was confirmed of those insecurities that you acknowledged for yourself was important, because it's scary to feel alone in the world without the skill sets & tools to whether a breakup of the one's you've had as hard lessons in life.

The fact Eddie is by your side is important for both of you in developing your relationship in my view and shows his level of maturity & care & respect he has for what he knows is important for you, versus his own selfish wants.
With that have fun in life and I hope you all the best.

Sincerely,
Robert

Tamra, hang in there. I understand exactly what you mean about moving on with another relationship when there are kids involved. You made a wise decision. I'm hoping you can get the strength to break away from Vicki and not let her disrespect you any longer. Please think twice before you commit to Eddie. Is he "the one", and how do you know?

tamra you are the worst friend there could possibly be. Vicky stood up for you many times and now you're calling her a hipocrite...you didnt tell her about your "friendship" with gretchen, so her reaction was completely normal... you really are an embarrasing person, the way you express yourself, i mean who would put a man's hand on their boob?! ofcourse you! Eddy is a great guy, you got lucky there, but the sad part is that you are aging by the minute, and he looks like he could be your sons pal, sorry! good luck with that, classy lady :)

I think you did the right thing buy making amends with Getchen. It was really disturbing to see how you went after her and Slade last year. I think you two are more alike than any of the other cast mates and will be able to have fun silly times together that will be much more enjoyable to watch. Viewers want to see funny antics, not screeching and crying emotional women.

Eddie is hot, no doubt. But be careful, he is not for you. You are alot older (sorry but it shows) and he can be dating women in their 20's easily. I think he is laying it on really thick with you to be on the show. His advice is too yucky sweet and just seems so scripted. Get rid of him, date different men and eventually find a more realistic boyfriend.

Vicki was in the wrong. She has to control every situation. You are a better person than her.

I am so happy about gretchen and you being friends. I think vicki needs to grow up and stop hating ! I understand her daughter is ill, that is sad. But really she over reacts with too many situations . Friends are friends no matter what. I just want to know who is the man when they show you? It doesnt look like eddie. I think you are great and you putting your kids first shows that, dont let negative nanceys bring you down!! I cant waite for the 80's party show. I mean slate was wrong with the comedy act, but that was not gretchens fault and really he is owed an apology because people really shouldnt judge , vicki has a man in the same situation. I wish all the best for you!

Tamara I think your great and i understand the things we give up for the sake of our children. i have been in a difficult marriage from the start, my husband cheated on me when i was pregant with both of my children,with two different women and since then it has made my life very unhappy. so i give you alot of credit for wanting to support your own children by yourself and with no help from a man I pray that someday i to can have the courage to stand on my own. I encourage you to stay strong and enjoy life. Good luck to you.

Tamra, I must admit that I've never been a fan of you. But lately, I have to give you credit. I love that you are thinking of your kids and how brave you are for wanting to figure out yourself before moving forward with Eddie especially since you are still legally married. You've changed this season and I hope it stays this way.

P.S. Stay away from Vicki. She's toxic.

Tamra...I just love you. You always keep me laughing & I to can say some off the wall things at times, but hey life is to serious to not laugh about it. I'm so happy you got away from Simon. It's my understanding that not only are your children banned from watching Bravo but didn't Simon make an issue out of you having Eddy around your children? And know he is living with someone. My ex-husband did that and he is on his 3rd marriage and I have been married to the same man for 25 years. Besides Simon gave me the willies I really didn't like watching him. Maybe because he acts a lot like my ex-husband. I applaud you for being so protective over your children. I have always said it's not good to expose children to a lot of men while dating because you don't know if it will work out and it's just wrong. So keep me laughing Tamera!!!

This is the first time EVER I've had any respect for you. Putting your kids needs' before your own desires is the right thing to do. I didn't think you had it in you. Who would've thought?!

Tammra..at one time all you did was cry tears over your husband that you made out of bullying or abuse in your life. Now you have Eddie and he is a very cheerful,handsome,good natured guy that is being him self..and you are acting like a bully and very ugly natured on your behalf. You seem evil any more. Stop it! Your mouth,and actions are stumbling your direction in having a loving relationship. You Have No Jesus In Your Life..and you need him! Slow down and get your shine back in your soul and rebuke the devils that lingo with their evil spirits all around you and ask Lord Jesus to come back to you and he will if you have belief.I want you Tammra to value what God has given you,and know his measure of love is the same for all...but if your actions are of the foolish then you will gain no knowledge on your own,and you will stew and stumble. Find your calm... Careful of what you say God says your words will either be against you,or for you..Our mouth is like a weapon. Read the New Testament "Proverbs". God bless your all.

I hope you don't take what is said on here to heart, You
Are Awsome! I think whatching you and Grechen are The only reason
I whatch this show. I was glad to see y'all make up ..

Tamara you seem to have grown so much in the last year or so and I'm proud to say that I've gone from someone who HATED you, to someone who adores who you've become! I think that the decision to make peace with Gretchen was a healthy one for your own emotional growth and I really hope that you don't let Vicki's jealousy get in the way. Not that Vicki is a bad person in any way but it's a her way or the highway kinda thing and you spent so many years letting a man influence your decisions I'd hate to see her guilt you into letting her now do the same. You can have more than one friend and I do hope for Vicki's own sake (and yours) she can see that!

Tamra, I think your hanging onto Eddie because you HAVE to have a man in your life, as if you are not complete without him. You hadn't been away from Simon long enough to know what it is to stand on your own two feet, gain your independence, work through issues you may have had with other men and THEN when you ARE independent....you probably won't want a man....and then BAM you'll meet the love of your life......you and Eddie aren't REAL with each other. Work on your insecurities so you don't attract the same qualities you have had in similar men... don't believe those worked out, did they?

I'm geeting ready to go through a divorce. I'm a 45 year old woman who has made it my job to be a stay at home mother. It was a decision I made 15 years ago with my husband. Watching the episode last night where you were talking about what to do with your life now didn't make me feel so alone. I now have to reinvent myself as a 45 year old woman too. Thanks for making it seem not as daunting and lonely...

Hey Tamara! I think alot of people will gain respect for you this episode. I never understood why women jump straight into other relationships so fast after being married for so many years. i always felt they should do exactly what you said, take time, figure out who you are and do somethings on your own before moving in with someone, esp. when there are young children. i would never move in with a man until my chidren have grown use to the idea about how their parents are living seperately. BRAVO to you for putting your chidren first! You did the right thing!

Dearest Tamra,
If I was your biggest fan, well now girlfriend, I'm in big. I love the Mother you are, putting your children first over your relationship with, Eddie. The guy is an absolute prince, he supports you in a way Simon never did. He appears to love you unconditionally. Takes joy in who you are, and respects you as a Mother.
I still can't stand Slade or Gretchen. For her not to say, absolutely not! You cannot talk about women like that, she had an opportunity to say if you do this, I'm out! But she had to have her naked moment on stage.The guy is a clueless tool, with a clueless girlfriend.
God bless you, God bless your precious children, and God bless Eddie.

Hello Tamara,
When you had a tantrum in Catalina Island because Eddie & Vickie were goofing around was just so immature. You are a lucky lady to have a man like Eddie and you know darn well there was nothing there between them, they were just having fun!!! THen you putting Vickies Boyfriends hand on your boob was uncalled for!!! Good God Tamara. Anyway I am sure that after the fact you realize how silly it was and hopefully you will think before you react next time. Looking forward to watching this season.

Tamra, I saw the show that aired tonight and oh my goodness...I had to comment and I pray you read this. I have never before in my life seen a single mother who put her children before her own needs. When you said that one needs to see things from their children's eyes when there's a divorce and moms and dads move in with new significant others. You are a very smart woman to realize the importance of seeing things through your children's eyes. Not many parents have that level of introspection. I applaud you. I'm glad you are not moving in with Eddie for the sake of your children. Finish raising your children and when they're older, then you can move to the next level in your love life. Eddie seems controlling and insensitive to me. I pick it up with a few things he says here and there, such as when you said you don't like food he says to you: "That's your problem." It's just unnecessarily insensitive. Eddie is a bit cocky and too sure of your love for him. You need a man who will work hard to get and keep your love and who is not controlling at all. I hope you find someone else!

Tamra,

After watching this week's episode I have a respect for you. I thought you would have run like crazy to get married or live with Eddie. But you surprised me when you said you wanted to make it on your own. I was pleasantly surprised. You still need to work on reducing the skank factor in your life.

Tamra
you just got divorced stay dating Eddie for awhile....WoW! why the tears? Again, it's not just you anymore...it's about your children...remember that....stay being a mom 1st.! Eddie 2nd....next....

Tamra
I will say this....moving in w/a man Nah....Nah....you still have younger children, right? Okay, stay at your own place, and he stay at his place...Moving in is sooo not a good idea....everything is working leave it a lone......

I know you may not think so, but it's okay to have more than one/two friends....accept Vickie for the way she is...and everyone else....not that serious....

Tamra, I like you, period. I am a long time fan of the show & you have always been my favorite. You seem to have a lot of haters... they must watch the show just to see the pretentious, fake, snobs with sticks stuck as far up their butts as possible & can't appreciate that you are REAL. (I am shocked to hear you like Heather so much, so far I think she is the worst of all in the category of snobs w/ sticks in their ass! Darling hubby though! He needs someone much more fun that her!) You are honest- you say what others are probably thinking but don't dare. You are classy- you know when you should behave & also know when it's "OK" to let your hair down and have fun! You are hilarious! You are confident enough to be who you are & not put on a show to pretend to be someone else- this alone makes you absolutely freaking beautiful!!! (BTW, Share your recent diet, exercise tips girl!) I think the other girls are intimidated by you because of your quick wit, ability to allow yourself some fun, your confidence & beauty! And they probably all wish the could hump Eddie! He IS humpable you lucky (finally!) girl!!! I know there's lots of hype about the bathtub scene... sorry to hear your regrets about that... what was there not to love?! You two are great! (ehhh! on your over-reaction to the Vickie thing. We all have our moments. Vickie isn't interested in your man, and Eddie would be crazy to be interested in anyone other than you!) He is just as lucky to have you as you are to have him! You're the bomb!! xoxoxo

tamara, You were busted by taking your " Moment " A little too far so you brought out your fake tears like you would do with Simon and its sad watching these guys fall for not only the fake tears but how you then some how turn your bad on them.

Your're total right MauiGirl. Now Eddie sees and knows firsthand what Simon referred to a number of times about Tamra's unacceptable behavior. Poor Simon got chastised and accussed of being controlling when all he wanted was a wife that showed some class. He tried to teach her that you can be fun and funny without being vulgar and obscene. I felt so bad for him. She hasn't changed one bit. Still tacky, and trashy.

i thought i liked you, but i don't.

The honeymoon is over. You have zero ability to sustain a relationship that requires work past the early sexy-sizzle. Watching you with Eddie when he doesn't "obey" you gives a peek into the reasons your marriage with Simon failed. Wow. It pushes me into the arena of siding with Simon.

You cuss too much. It's not ladylike.

I totally get you and I think you and Eddie are perfect together. I don't agree with the Eddie/Gretchen argument. You and he are different enough to keep it going and he sees who you really are! You are funny and you can be a little mean, but I think you sometimes just say what others are thinking. Apologize and mean it when you are wrong and just don't tell anyones deep dark secrets. Let's be honest, if someone has been to court for CS it is public record, so I mean why is it such a big deal! Own it and move on. There are secrets between friends that should never be shared and I don't think I've ever heard you speak of someone's deep dark secret. It's kinda like when you call someone out on a "bankruptcy". It's PUBLIC RECORD, it's not like you've told that someone asked you not to.
Keep being you and I wish you and Eddie the best. I also hope that Gretchen will forgive you and you two can build a relationship. I think you two will have a lot of fun. She was just being protective of her man, but I think she also sees truth in what you said about Slade. It doesn't mean she can't be with him. We all have to accept things we might not like when we are in relationships. I'm sure Slade is doing his best with his kids. He just doesn't have the money he once had. It happens! His ex is just pissed cause she can't sit on her butt and collect a big fat check. I get CS, but it's not much and he should pay more, but it's all relative to what you make and you can't get blood from a turnip.(I"m southern!)

tamera next time give eddie a dramine patch that will help with motion sickness and never let him drink on an empty stomach he acts a fool and i hope he's said he's sorry for acting foolish and saying mean things to you

Why is everyone hating on Tamra? We all make mistakes, drink too much and say stupid stuff!! Love you Tamra!!!

I don't know this is all so weird. I think you probably meant well by befriending grethchen but I don't think she sould trust you. I've really tried to like you but I'm sorry. I agree with others, Eddie's not in for the long haul. I think your fine for now but not forever. if he and Simon really were not friends, then he seems to be a nice guy but I think he'll move on to someone more appropriate for him and his lifestyle eventaully. Don't let your kids get attached. And you need to apologize to slade!!! You are willing to hang out with Brooks? Are you serious??? Girl you have lost you mine to have been the most voacl about slade but because it's vicki's man you're willing to put his hand on your boob??? Salde deserves a very public apology for all the heartache you've put him through. Your moral compass is way out of control. Simon was good for you. You certainly needed a man who helped guide your morality.

the guy in the beard in the background is Ryan.

I was a fan of Tamra's only for the first season. I think you look great these days = botox and weight loss? But wow what a beach. Eddie is hot so any of that bs will not give you any brownie points. He seems like such a down to earth and nice guy so he doesn't really suit you. Has he seen the previous shows? Particularly how you make up lies about everyone and put it in the media? Like Gretchen cheating on Jeff or Slade being a dead beat dad or how about throwing wine in Jeana's face? I mean if he really knew how immature and mean spirited you were, why would he be with you?

It's true, you can throw out everything in everyone's life but when they talk about you, it's a sin. You have beautiful children who look to you as a role model. Do you think they would be proud of your actions? Would you recommend your daughter act how you do as a grown woman? Grow up and act your age.

Oh yeah....you better believe that Gretchen is way smarter than you think! It may look like she is over everything you have done and said to her, but let me assure you she will never, ever forget (forgive for now) any of it.

Gretchen, a Scorpio, will never forget being wronged by you. She will hold a grudge inside her heart against you FOREVER. However, she can also be the most loyal friend of all signs to people who have stood by her. Time will tell. Just saying you better go back to Vicki and BEG!

Heather is much too intelligent to fall for your games! :) She will be a GREAT addition! Out with the "old" and in with the new!

VICKI AND I, VICKI AND I, Vicki and I have started a wine club! Vicki and I have a running joke! Seriously, learn some grammar, woman!

Man, it is so obvious how much Eddies likes the camera and being an on air personality. Poor guy, he can't break up with Tamra or he won't be on TV. There is no way he will ever propose because we all see what (sorry but it's true) TRAILER TRASH Tamra is and he must too. Good god, we only have to cringe through her once a week---not every day. Eddie, Eddie, Eddie, how long you gonna string Tamra along?...You can't obviously overlook her personality because she is hot. All this time your wasting out of both of your lives because she's on a reality show, not fair to Tamra---her clock is ticking.....do the inevitable...being on TV can't be worth wasting years for both of you can it??????

Tamara,
Face it. Vicki was showing off for her "boyfriend" when she interacted the way she did on the boat. She was behaving like a child, wanting her boyfriend to see how popular she was with Eddie. Icky. You had every right to be miffed about her touchy-feely with Eddie. She was using him. She must be the center of attention at all times. Her whooping and shouting, and drama on the line thing was sickening. She thinks it is cute and it is just old!!! I am tired of her and could care less.
I think you are much better off with Gretchen as your BFF. I am so glad that you and she are getting to be better friends.
Also, can't close without saying to you that I think you were used by Slade's ex-wife. Don't trust her and don't believe her. The man is BROKE. He can only do so much and I think he does the most with what he can and beyond. You need to give Vicki's boyfriend a closer look in the non-payment of child support on his record. That guy has been put in jail for it (not Slade)and I would not be surprised if he hasn't had his driver's license suspended as well. Please make amends with Slade.

Tamera,
I come from a long line of people that have a hard time editing themselves. We all have moments when we say,' did I just say that?'. And then howl with laughter. My Mother has always said, 'we are intense people'. I guess that's why my sweet Husband and I have been married for 30 years. He comes from people who wouldnt say crap if they had a mouthful. He delights in the unedited version of me, not the dumbed down woman he could have married. I'm rooting for you and Eddie, he seems like such a sweet guy. It was just the booze talking in Catalina. Hold on tight to each other, because any man would desire a passionate woman who tells it like it is, and any woman would desire a man who accepts her just as she is. Trust me when a woman caves to her mans control, he just jockeys for more. Take a look at Alexis...

GRETCHEN and EDDIE would make the perfect couple in EVERY way. I am looking forward to seeing this! Wow!

RUN EDDIE, RUN, AS FAST AS YOUR FEET CAN TAKE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tamara, I really liked your iPhone case soooo much. Where could I get one? And, as for getting jealous, it happens to the best of us. No one is perfect and or is going to react perfectly in every situation. Those who love you will forgive and move on........

Be careful Tamra. You are going to run that man away.

Pure trash, always has been and always will be. Yuk!!!

If you can not trust others it means YOUR NOT trustworthy Tammi!

There is alot of comments on the "Catalina/boob" argument. Tamra, I was married to a Latin man for 29 years and my new love is also Latin. ( I am gringa) Latin men love to flirt. Bottom line...."FLIRT." If a latin man truly loves his woman, he will be faithful. Unfortunately, Latin men don't like to see their woman flirt with other men, yes it is a double standard, but one I accept because I love my man. Eddie is a good man. Have fun but dont spark the Latin temper. NO BUENO!

- idk tamara...i like you, i get you. i did cringe a little with how you reacted to vicki and eddie but didn't think putting brook's hand on the top of your breast was that big a deal - it all got a little out of hand but that's what alcohol does sometimes. next time just put vicki's hand on your breast, it'll have the opposite effect!
- think you and gretchen are cut from the same cloth - fun watching the two of you - everyone else seems a little too uptight

When Tamra and Eddie got in a fight over the BOOB thing and they were making up, Eddie said he loved Vicky as a friend. Poor Tamra kept saying how much she loved Eddie and he never once said he loved her back. He said he loved Vicky but said "I know you do" when Tamra said she loved him. I don't think he loves her at all. II felt bad for her.

Tamra, I think maybe Eddie and Vic being close brought back fears from what your father did to your mom. It probably triggered some deep rooted fears from your past. I do think Vickie is sometimes innappropriate with her friends spouses. I seem to remember an episode where she was hanging all over her friends husband and telling him her boobs wanted to come out and play. At one of the reunions her arms were all around Tammy Knickerbockers boyfriend... it is rude.

I'm embarassed for you & your bad behavior - I don't think you're smart enough to see how ignorant you really act!!!