The First 'Wives Club

Episode 15: Bravotv.com's Editor debates which was more awkward -- Heather's trip to the DMV or Alexis and Tamra's lunch.

May 22, 20120

The Hangover
Meanwhile in a fashion-forward robe on a porch in another part of the O.C., Gretchen and Slade are discussing their future. Gretchen wants to take Heather's advice and see a therapist to discuss their issues. Gretchen's upset because she doesn't know how to help him, and so why can't she help him help himself, you know? And so after a very sweet handhold the kids hop into the car and speed off to enlightenment.

Enlightenment is a bumpy road it turns out, with Gretchen and Slade bickering through traffic to their appointment and then over if Slade accidently introduced himself as doctor. (Dr. Slade does have a nice ring to it, doesn't it? It sounds very General Hospital to me.)

The pair immediately begins discussing the fiscal issues, and Slade does his best to assure Gretchen that things will get fixed. The reason for the hold up? Slade admits that he can't focus fully on his business because he's bogged down in Gretchen business. She's upset because she doesn't want him to feel that he has to do those things for her, and carves some time out for the business of being Smiley. And so we shall see if 10 am to 2 pm is enough time for him to focus on his business and get them ready for a life together.

53 comments
ViewerTerry from Sedona,AZ
ViewerTerry from Sedona,AZ

Heather is the best thing to happen to the show. It does appear that Vicky gets on her last nerve but she will say what she thinks. She is not worried about the wrath of Vicki because she can hold her own with all the ladies. Dr. Terry is the sweetest of all the men. Love the two of them. Still would love to see Vicky off the show. Yes, Tam can be mean. That's life. I hope all the best for Gretchen, she is the best.

chatomina
chatomina

Alexis, don't worry about what Tamra says about you.

Reva
Reva

I wonder if Alexis wasn't so pretty, would people like her as much as they do? She is very guilty of talking smack about absolutely EVERYONE, and later denies it or points the finger at others. Am I honestly the only person who notices this? Sorry Alexis, you threw just as much dirt as Tamra, she's just better at it than you and doesn't have a problem owning it!

senoritalucy
senoritalucy

I would like to see a blog from Brianna talking about her reactions to meeting Brooks, the fight with her mom, and Vicki/ Brooks converstation about thier fight.

Lisa B
Lisa B

Tamara used to be my favorite housewife. Now I just find her mean and self centered, I actually think she is a little jealous of Alexis and her family. Alexis's businesses are taking off and has three beautiful young children. Tamara is always ready with a nasty name to call Alexis, such as "drag queen". Eddie looks like he is getting pretty annoyed with her, he seems like a really sweet guy that will call her out on it, if she wants to keep him around she should watch how she treats people.

tec5210
tec5210

I think Tamra just has to have someone to put down to make herself feel better about her life. She is jealous of Alexis being happily married while she (Tamra) is a two-time loser. So therefore she attacks her like a middle school brat while Gretchen is just happy to be part of "the cool kids". There is a huge lack of maturity in this group.

Viewerdogg
Viewerdogg

here's a question:slade,brooks and jim bellino all say they work.i take it they all have careers but-what do they do to actually make money?a lot of people lost their careers due to the economic down turn and had to take jobs outside their chosen field.i don't know these people so it's not fair for me to judge.i'm just curious because we-the audience-are not stupid and when-for instance-slade says "i have a job"-great-where do you make your money?you have two men who have serious child support issues and i have no clue as to jim bellino's job so where does the bread actually come from?on a lighter note-alexis is gorgeous and should be doing movies or tv.she's a world class beauty as is heather.alexis doesn't need to try so hard or be competitive.she should learn from heather-they should talk a lot.heather would be a good teacher for her as heather is really cool and has been where alexis could get to.

MOG
MOG

Just because it is a person's right to say what they feel, it does not necessarily mean it will be advantageous. I think Tamra showed a lack of maturity and class by being so rude. Granted, in life we will not like everyone, that includes family members that we have to deal with on a more continuous basis, however, as mature adults, we can learn to deal with each and give each other simple common courtesy and respect. It does not mean that we have to say things to put the other person down in order to make ourselves feel better - which is what Tamra was doing. Personally, none of these women are perfect, as no human on this earth is - and they each have a little something that could make others not like them - but when they are wrong, they are wrong, and in this particular instance, Tamra showed a lack of class and maturity. She is thinking she is "mightier and better than thou" and she needs to recheck herself. Sometimes Alexis gets on my nerves, but this time around, she was the classier one, and was just trying to mend things a bit. I mean, what is wrong with just not liking someone and just being courteous.

Ruby2
Ruby2

My heart really breaks for Alexis...Tamra's heartless delivery of how she feels about her was just not necessary. My goodness...people who just spew nasty remarks because they want to be brutally honest need to take a step back and filter themselves. Just because you think it...doesn't necessarily mean that it's truth. I do believe that part of Tamra's dislike for Alexis now is due in part to their friendship with Simon. Settle down Tamra...you love to be the center of attention CONSTANTLY now that you're buff and in shape. You are loud and obnoxious most of the time....simmer.

AmandaHopper
AmandaHopper

Tamra was really too mean to Alexis, Alexis is innocent and gorgeous. Tamra is JEALOUS just like she was of Gretchen before.

Meredith75
Meredith75

That whole scene was so sad to watch.

LeaveAlexisAlone
LeaveAlexisAlone

Hmm... I don't see what everyone dislikes about Alexis. I WANT to see it, but I really don't. She seems harmless to me. Yeah, she's the not the sharpest crayon in the box ... but neither is Tamra. I'm just confused how Tamra feels she has the right to say nasty things about Alexis. So what? You don't like her and you have nothing in common with her. That's normal. We're all different. But does that give you a right to be a bully and say super nasty vile things about the woman in public? No, it doesn't. Tamra needs to grow up and get some class.

ViewerB
ViewerB

I went to Costa Rica earlier this year. I am so glad I didn't run into them.

ticie
ticie

Tamra has a problem with selective amnesia. Just like the other viewers have pointed out, her behavior when she was married to Simon was similar-the difference between her and Alexis is Alexis is basically a nice person-she's self centered (aren't they all!), but she means well. Tamara went overboard telling her off; she should have agreed to disagree & let it go at that.

RealBlueBloodNYC
RealBlueBloodNYC

Heather used to be my favorite, but last time, she was extremely flat, BORING, (specially the dmv part....) and as far as I can see, she has NOTHING ELSE to offer. That's all. She try so hard to advertising her "carrier" as an "actress", but all we can see is NOTHING, but a typical spoiled housewive. The BORING ONE.

Marge E.
Marge E.

Alexis kept pushing Tamra and Tamra leveled with her. They are different....Tamra has a brain. She knows she is going to Costa Rica and she knows it "ain't" in MEXICO. Alexis is so insecure she is actually crawling to Tamra and begging her to like her. I felt sorry for her but it is what it is.

Starr2u
Starr2u

Tamra's comments are exactly what the network wants. More drama and more of a soap opera theme. It keeps viewers wanting more. There is always a victim each season and Alexis leaves herself wide open every week. Alexis needs to just be herself and realize she can not make everyone like her and learn to shut up once in a while. Tamra is great at playing the villian again. Gretchen and Heather trying to be the sweethearts of the show. Then there is Vicki who is a little bit of everything all in one, with some self centerness so she gets her fair share of attention. The husbands and boyfriends are the dreamy ones and some are "me caveman you woman" types that round out the show. And we love every minute of the show it and can't wait for next week's episode.

Francien
Francien

It cracks me up about Alexis and her "Career"...which one? Too many ventures going on. She is shallow and a pretender.

Cyn35
Cyn35

Just wondering if the viewer question to Heather last night on WWHL about her being jealous of Alexis was from Alexis or a friend of Alexis because somebody with even half a brain would never come to that thought. Heather has nothing to be jealous of and she sure doesn't act like she's jealous.

WORKING Wife in WV
WORKING Wife in WV

Alexis is a dim-wit and Tamra isn't the brightest but she's a pretty smart lady. They don't have much in common now especially since Tamra removed her boobs. The show pushed that confrontation otherwise Tamra would have never been there in the first place. Alexis makes my brain hurt because she is so stupid.

Terry is priceless!! That was the sweetest thing to do and the sweetest reaction. He is a good man!!! He is a supremely supportive and secure husband. You can see the love Heather and Terry have for one another. I hope that they stay strong forever and defy the Hollywood marriage odds... well marriage odds in general! Who knew that DMV folks don't have a sense of humor?? I think they are robots!

SuzInKS
SuzInKS

Cute with Heather and Terry. For some guys, that really does matter..even when they say it doesn't. I hope Slade gets it together. With all his faults, Gretchen does seem to love him. But I completely get her not wanting to add his baggage on to having children with him.

Now for Alexis and Tamara...well...there is honest and then there is brutal. Tamara was brutal and savage in her verbal take-down of Alexis. She doesn't like her. So what? She should have just said "Alexis, I just don't like you. Our personalities don't match. I don't really feel the need to discuss it further but I can be cordial to you in social situations." Enough. This is just a pattern with Tamara. She has to attack someone every season. Its been Gretchen. Its been Jenna. Now its Alexis' turn. Tamara is just vicious. She's not wrong about Alexis being phoney but its not up to her to savage Alexis. Tamara is as phoney as Alexis is. I thought Tamara has grown up some in the aftermath or her divorce but apparently not. We all know or work with people we really dislike and would rather not associate with. But that's life. You put on your big girl panties and just deal.

This is starting to look put on. It feels like the producers have told her she has to talk smack about one of the other housewives every season.

aleina
aleina

I loved this blog..very witty this time! If anyone was fake at that table , it was TAMARA! The comments and the tone of voice and the way her eyes looked were all from somewhere back in high school...and very fake! She was trying to win the fight at all costs and make certain that Alexis knows that she hates her guts! One has to question WHY? I think she has been so jealous of Alexis from the beginning and has been on a witch hunt ever since. Not very pretty! I dont think Alexis is phony at all. Maybe that is just who and how she is....did any of them ever stop to think of that? It seems that whenever someone tries to look on the bright side and chooses to try to spin things to make life happier in the midst of struggles, others start thinking they are FAKE or PHONY...because they arent whining and depressed acting . I think Alexis is a nice person....she has her human flaws, but who doesnt? I LOVE Brooks now.....I think he is hilarious with Vicki, and I am sure there was a note tucked away for her to read somewhere! lol. He can do no wrong...or at least he never says anything wrong...EVER! Gretchen and Slade are so adorable together, but she definitely was out to get him straightened out from the moment the dr. opened the door and greeted them! Heather is PERFECT on this show and it was so funny to see her getting her picture taken for a driver's licence! It was very moving to see her husband's reaction to the name change...it was one of the best moments ever! They are so wonderful to watch together! All in all....this was such a great show last night! Love it!

cindy1963
cindy1963

I don't like Alexis, so I think Tamra hit it right on the nose about her!! Granted, they pretty much all have some shallowness but Alexis goes overboard always saying things and having 100 cars when they are renting a house, always moving and we STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT JIM DOES!!! I think it is going to be an interesting trip. I hope they get to see the Sloth Sanctuary that they have there. The sloths are so cute, they look like they're always smiling. Maybe these women can learn a thing or two about being more content with what they have and thanking God for giving it to them. Right Alexis? I love Gretchen and I do hope that things work out for her and Slade, they really do love one another. So see how it goes Gretch-things will work out. Leave it God's hands and he will take care of everything.I look forward to seeing Costa Rica-that should be beautiful! You go Tamra for being so honest. Love ya girl. Have a great trip.

Billie B
Billie B

Heather you are awesome I love Terry I think he is awesome too!!!

El Paso County Colorado housewife
El Paso County Colorado housewife

Heather and Terry...Loved his reaction to her name change...that said it all! Vicki needs to get a grip and Slade and Gretchen have a rough road ahead. Not easy getting into relationships that already has baggage. Ok...Tamra & Alexis...well...Alexis is a phony, however, I am not sure Tamra needed to get Terry involved. She was brutally honest...she could have toned it down a bit...you don't have to like everyone, you don't have to be best friends but you don't have to be a biotch either. I think she was rather harsh here. Tamra you can put on your big girl pants and be in the same room as Alexis and be cordial...and you still don't have to like her. It is called being an adult...I have been liking how Tamra is behaving this year but there is still a bit of that nastiness in there. Do wish her all the best in her new business adventure but she might want to remember actions speak louder than words and her actions with Alexis might come back to haunt her. Just saying...

Marie9181
Marie9181

I think the Tamara and Alexis battle is the pot calling the kettle black. I remember Tamara's "I am the hottest housewife" days. Tamara was just as shallow as Alexis during her marriage to Simon. I do think Tamara has been humbled by her divorce. I also think that the combination of stupid and shallow is a bad look for Alexis.

Murray4
Murray4

I felt Alexis extended the olive branch, tamera could have been a little more open to wOrk toward the positive.... Tamera should have told her what bugs her....with out using curse words!

Asalwaays
Asalwaays

I'm glad Tamera let her know. Alexis has been driving me crazy for years with her attitude all the while preaching religion and using it to look down upon others and judge them. She needed to hear it.

Pat Eisenstein
Pat Eisenstein

I thought Tamara was extremely nasty to Alexis and even though she finds Alexis shallow, we are all different and that is what makes this America! What if everyone were like Tamara (OMG), making jokes, snyde remarks, two-faced, talking like a bully, and jumping in a rose petal tub with your boyfriend on TV while being filmed for the whole world to see. She should watch herself on the show and then she will see what she has become. I think we can all get along without all the back-stabbing and comments about each other. Enjoy the great life you have!!!!! Many people would love to be in the OC group and have fun being together and doing so many fun things.

LuvBravo!
LuvBravo!

Tamra was impressed with Alexis when she had her over for a family cookout/ swim party a couple seasons ago. She commented on the "bling" on her finger and how great Alexis's figure was. Now because Tamra is not married to Simon living comfortably in a nice fancy house any longer, she claims that she and Alexis have nothing in commen. News alert Tamra, you changed, not Alexis.

Tamra doesn't know who she is. When married to Simon, she was concerned with material things and being a tropy wife and accused Gretchen of copying off her for wanting a pink motorcycle. Now Tamra is seeking to open a fitness business, which if I remember correctly Gretchen looked into seasons ago and you don't see Gretchen accusing her of copying.

Now that Tamra is with Eddy and he is into fitness, Tamra has removed her breast implants, went fitness crazy and adopted Eddie's life. Do you know who you are Tamra? It seems like you use people around you and change yourself to fit that perception.

Alexis was classy at the meeting you two had when you were "so honest". She should have called you out on a few things she knows about you and told you off!

housewives fanatic
housewives fanatic

I'm sorry, but Alexis hasn't exactly killed anyone. The poor woman just wanted to be cordial and have all the nasty talking behind the back stop, and Tamra took the role of a bully, again, and could not have been nastier. I still believe the only reason Tamra chose to befriend Gretchen was to make sure that Alexis was alienated by everyone. That's exactly how she rolls....she's the high school girl who turns everyone against the person she doesn't like at the moment. She does it to someone every year. It's really quite appalling.

treblah
treblah

It may be editing, but Tamra came off badly in the meeting with Alexis. Alexis is shallow and pretentious at times, but she is harmless. Seems Tamra has alot of anger and Alexis just got the full brunt of it.

VieweronDaBayou
VieweronDaBayou

Tamra finally said to her face what needed to be said (and what a lot of viewers) are thinking. Bravo Tamra!

Viewer in Oklahoma
Viewer in Oklahoma

I believe Alexis has good intentions but the girl can not shut up. When other people are talking Alexis is constantly interrupting to "one-up" the conversation. She did this constantly with Peggy and she is doing it with Heather. Alexis somehow feels inferior to these ladies (or at least that is how it seems to me) and her bragging is just that...bragging. We all read the papers so we see Bellino land is not all gold yet Alexis insist they are financially sound....Financially sound people only rent houses while in a transition phase..The Bellinos do not seem to be in a transition phase, they seem to be in a decline. Again I still think Alexis is her own worst enemy and she needs to sometimes BE QUITE and NOT say a word. Because when she does she only looks STUPID.

Ohiograndma
Ohiograndma

Alexis is one of those women who continually ask their friends to be honest with them...and then get mad when they are. I am so sick of Alexis bragging about her "career" which seems to be a hodgepodge of miscellaneous ventures - certainly she cannot be talking about her TV hosting "career". Tamra hit the nail on the head with the "shallow" comment ... but I'm not sure Alexis knows the meaning of the word. After all, she thinks Costa Rica is in Mexico - and she recently tweeted that she was talking with Katie Keurig(sic). Vicki needs to mend the fences with her daughter - she's the mother and her daughter was only voicing concerns about the somewhat shady Brooks issue. Instead of screaming "shut up" she (Vicki) should have tempered it down and asked what Briana's concerns were and worked through them. All in all, this is a very interesting season - please give us more of Heather and Terry; the only normal couple in this ensemble!

Jrobbins
Jrobbins

Alexis told her to be honest. I've learned a long time ago, don't tell someone (esp. someone you know doesnt like you) to be honest if you aren't ready to hear the worst.

Carmen Velasquez
Carmen Velasquez

I dont have a problem with her honesty. I have a problem with her perception and delivery. I just feel that what Alexis does or dosent do has no bearing on Tamra's life so why does Tamra allow it to bother her so much? My impression is that Tamra felt betrayed by Alexis when Alexis became close to Gretchen. Her comments last year was" Alexis has changed ever since she has been hanging out with Gretchen and Im done!" My problem with Tamra is she goes after someone every year. For the past several years it was Gretchen and anyone who was close to her and this year its Alexis. After she is done with her she will focus on someone else.

Julie Evans
Julie Evans

Tamra went way too far. But, Alexis is the epitome of a lady. Through and through.

AMS
AMS

Tamra should reemember that people in glass houses should not throw rocks.

Ihavetosay
Ihavetosay

I enjoy the OCHWs because we are able to see more of the ladies other than them squabbling with each other. The jury is still out on Brooks for me but I think he handeled Brianna's feelings toward him well. I agree it was a touching moment when Terry was presented with Heather's "new name". The only sour lady on the cast is Tamara, she isn't able to grasp that just because she doesn't like Alexis doesn't mean she has to berate her. Tam seems to have a lot of anger & hopefully she'll work that out.

capegirl
capegirl

I believe Alexis is really trying to grow as a person. She has her flaws but didn't deserve that tirade from Tamra.

blh1
blh1

Tamara was every bit as shallow as Alexis a couple of years ago. Hey Tamara: you need to re-watch the shows. It is funny how you can really dislike someone you have never met (e.g. Tamara Barney)

JRS
JRS

I do not understand how Tamra can be so high and mighty thinking she is so much better then Alexis. She is doing the exact things she accuses Alexis of doing. Tamra was married to an awful man way worse then Jim did she forget about that? Or once the tattoo on her finger was removed did it just make her forget everything about the terrible marriage she hated so much? Tamra think she is so direct and honest but always changes the words of people. Tamra said Dr. Dubrow said she was the fakest person he had ever met but all he had said was she was fake. Tamra just keeps playing a game of telephone and bending and adding words to fit the "story" she wants to tell. Well Tamra you want the honest truth, you come off arrogant and rude, even though you are poor you act like you are a million dollars which you aren't, based off of your clothing and where you lived in that tiny apartment you aren't exactly making the big bucks yet you act like your stuff doesn't stink. You should not be on RHOC but more like a low rent reality show about some host giving a poor mom (you) money and gifts. Like Extreme Home Makeover. Although Alexis is not the smartest she at leasts comes off like she means well. All I see is a woman who cares passionately about her family and is doing what she can to help out. Whether anything or financial wise things Alexis is just not the best speaker and any viewer can figure that out so she is not trying to be fake or brag. Sorry used to be a fan but disappointed that you are so quick to judge and think you are so much better then her even though I do not see you having a steady job and she at least has a part time broadcasting gig, clothing line and wants to explore other possibilities.

piperoni
piperoni

oNCE AGAIN IT PROVES ALEXIS IS THE YOUNGEST AND THE MORE MATURE ONE OF THE BUNCH.LAST SEASON TAMRA SAID NO ONE LIKED JEANA.THEN SHE THROUGH WINE.YOU DO NOT WANT A GIRL LIKE TAMRA AS A TRUE FRIEND.ALEXIS IS THE NICE ONE AND TAMRA CAN NOT STAND IT.SHE WANTS HER TO FAIL.IM SURE IT HURT LEXIE BECAUSE OF WHAT GRETCHEN DID.HEATHER DOES NOT KNOW THE BELLINOS AND TAMRA JUST SAY LEXIE WILL NOT LOSE SLEEP OVER SOMEONE LIKE THAT.HER TRUE FRIENDSHIP WE THOUGHT WAS WITH GRETCHEN.I THINK GRETCHEN WANTED MORE THAN ONE FRIEND ON THE SHOW.NOW SHE HAS 2.IN THE LONG RUN GRETCHEN WILL BE SORRY SHE PUT SO MUCH TRUST IN TAMRA SO SOON.TAMRAS PLAN WAS TO BREAK THEM TO UP.

Viewer31
Viewer31

Why would anyone want to go to Tamera's new fitness center when she as a person surrounds herself with such a discussing cloud of negativity? There's a big difference between not having anything in common with someone and being a downright mean person. I think Tamera should take her 60k and invest in some zen healing!

OC viewer
OC viewer

Warmed my heart watching Heather telling Terry she changed her name. So sweet. You can see the love. Rooting for Slade & Gretchen to work it out. Gretchen is being smart about her desire for Slade to get his financial matters taken care of. Alexis cracks me up. Costa Rica in Mexico?! I admire her though asking Tamra if they could move forward even though she knew what Tamra thought of her. As for Tamra? I just don't get it. First Gretchen now Alexis. She's just mean, but calls its honesty. I want to turn the mute on when she talks about Alexis. Costa Rica looks aweful for Alexis. Will be hard to watch. Missing Gretchen & Alexis friendship from past seasons.

SDP1
SDP1

I think Alexis is a bit dramatic but the other ladies are just haters. They always put her down but Alexis is doing great things as a business woman. They keep insinuating that Alexis is dump and never give her credit where credit is due...haters!

Avid viewer
Avid viewer

Whats Tamara's problem. Who does she think she is . Her breast reduction seems to have shrunk her brain as well. She has no class and is mean. Alexa's working hard foe herself and family and also hard to be accepted. The episode coming up seems like all the women jump on board the mean train and wow they've inflated their already huge egos.

RealViewer
RealViewer

Tamra talked horribly about Gretchen and is now doing the same to Alexis. Alexis is good at getting people on 'her side' to validate her jealousy. This seems to be her M.O. How proud she must be of herself. I find Tamra, pathetic. Cruel intentions is not becoming...

mommawpenny
mommawpenny

It is true Alexis is not the brightest bulb on the tree, but Tamra is just being mean. I almost like Tamra this year, until she reverts back to the mean girl, she has shown herself to be in the past. Vicky is one self centered Chick, and she truly deserves someone like Brooks. This guy is about as real as she is. Heather is a true snob but she is a lot more likeable than the rest of them. Her Husband is great and it is nice to see the love in his eyes when he looks at her.