To the couches we all go. . .
This is never a fun time for any of us. We dread it like we would a root canal. Yet, it's inevitable.
Weeks ago, when Gretchen and I met for lunch, I blogged about my feelings on our relationship, and I don't want to re-hash that, so you can read that blog for details. To summarize, going into the reunion I felt (and still do feel) that our friendship will not recover. Can I move on? Yes, and I can also be cordial in a group setting as I have no ill will towards her. I just can't trust her. Plain and simple. I understand what our friendship was, I am fine with how it has ended and I truly wish only the best for her.
Gretchen is such a biotch! When the camera caught her clapping when Alexis got thrown out of Tamra's dinner party, that was when I realized for sure that Gretchen is a snake. What a classless Barbie! I think she got so much botox and surgery on her face that she can't smile or show any emotion anymore---she sure doesn't know how to be a friend. She jumped on the "Let's get Alexis" bandwagon in Mexico when she thought she could score a friendship with Tamra out of it. What goes around, comes around Gretchen, and yours hasn't even arrived yet. Your big production of proposing to Slade was so staged! I give that marriage 2 years tops! If you never returned to the show, it couldn't be soon enough for me. As Vickie put it, "Bye, bye Gretchen"!
Alexis beware of Tamra, see what kind of friend she has been to Gretchen and know that you will get the same. The woman is a bully and cut throat. Forgive Gretchen if she asks for forgiveness but you better believe that apology from Tamra was not genuine. Gretchen dumped you because she wanted to be friends with the bully, I think she is probably afraid of her and would rather be her friend than enemy but little does she know the word friend is a foreign concept to Tamra. Watch your back, I predicted that Tamra would turn on Gretchen again, one season later, hello...
The difference between Tamra and Gretchen is that Alexis never had a close bond and friendship with Tamra. Gretchen on the other hand was her Best friend and she turned on Alexis from the moment she made up with Tamra. Alexis still reaches out to her and she(Gretchen) rejects Alexis. I dont think Alexis will become close to Tamra, but she dosent have to be enemies with her either. As for Gretchen, she got what she deserved!
If you think what Tamra and Vicki presented was evidence, I hope you never get selected for jury duty.
You don't feel you can trust Gretchen but you are willing to trust Tamra and Vickie? Tamra was apparently texting all kinds of things to Gretchen about you that weren't particularly nice. Now she says she was just telling Gretchen what she wanted to hear. That's a load of you know what. Tamra, I believe, was just trying to improve her image as a mean girl on the show by burying the hatchet with you. If you think she's really your friend, think again.
"I'm like that with a lot of my guy friends." WHAT? Maybe Slade is 'cool' with that. I can't imagine most women would be comfortable with another woman sitting on their husband's laps or kissing them either one... or both. I think it's odd that Slade would be fine with it either. But if he is...WHATEVER. I would NOT be o.k. with ANY woman doing that even as a "friend" to my husband! Am I alone here????
wow, alexis, I really thought you grew, but after seeing some of your expressions you showed on the reunion regarding poor gretchen and your behavior, I changed my mind. You say you were "bullied" but the way you were to gretchen was the same way you describe how they all were to you! guess its okay when is someone else and not you? not right! Gretchen was the only one who was authentic with you, atleast she was honest enough to say that she wasn't sure IF your friendship could recover, NOT text you and say I love you to your face, then text someone else and say they hate you and don't want anything to do with you and blame someone else for her lie!!!!! take a good look and reasses who you call a friend!~
I'm glad that you were able to move on with Lydia and I'm still hopeful that you and Gretchen can be friends again. Please learn from you past experiences do not forget that the rose-colored glasses can fool you if you're not paying attention.. Don't play into any cat-n-mouse games....(look at what happened to Gretchen)
Also, a secret should always remain a secret no matter what. Secrets are meant to out-live us. This is a noble promise - to keep a secret.
Come on Alexis! I can't believe that now since you are no longer friends with Gretchen, that you would throw her under the bus, regarding her behavior on the boat with Jay! You instantly changed your opinion from a couple years ago. I like you, Alexis. But, you used to be great friends with Gretchen, and I don't get why you would turn on her to gang up with the mean girls just because you made up with Tamara and want to be accepted by them. Cracks me up that now you are bullying Gretchen
Alexis, I have watched every season and episode of RHOOC. I gained SO much respect for you this season. You are so beautiful. You are one of the only ladies who I would want as a friend. You never seem to talk behind peoples back. You truly deserved the apologies this season. What Gretchen did to you was horrible! You always seem to try and make peace its so sweet how you bring the ladies gifts just being thoughtful. I was happy to see you grow this season!!
It seems there is a shifting in the tide, away from "poor Alexis" to "poor Gretchen." I don't remember you having much support until you were "poor Alexis." May want to tread carefully if you want to keep it.
Hello, I just wanted to let you know that I have always liked watching you the most on this show. Yes, you did brag a little, but no more then all the other girls. What I like the most about you is you try not to say anything negative about anyone. I never saw you do that from the beginning of the show either. I just worry that they will boot you off because of that, but then maybe another network will have you doing something better. Please never change your sweetness. You have gone through so much and yet to see you still be so strong and to still have faith is a great thing. I believe the Lord has allowed you to be on this show for a purpose. Continue to seek after him and let him direct your path.
NEWSFLASH! GRETCHEN HAS NOT APOLOGIZED TO ALEXIS SO PLEASE STOP TELLING HER TO FORGIVE HER WHEN IT IS SO CLEAR THE GRETCHEN HAS MADE IT OBVIOUS THAT SHE DID NOT WANT TO MAKE UP WITH ALEXIS DURING THEIR LUNCH WEEKS AGO.
Now I saw a little bit of light in Gretchen when she said she wished Alexis was there at her engagement which leads to my prediction that next season Gretchen may be serving up an apology to Alexis. I do believe that Alexis will forgive her, but things will be awkward.
However, I may be wrong as Gretchen once again goens on the attack against Alexis by calling her fake on camera. SUCH A TRUE FRIEND! NOT!
Alexis, the hardest thing for a person to do is to change; but that is just what you did this season. No more name dropping, price dropping, boasting; just a warm, funny, likable woman who made a sincere effort to get along with everyone. You come across as much more mature, more confident, and more capable than the ditzy persona you portrayed in the past. Good job well done, Alexis!
Alexis, I don't care that you're not the brightest bulb in the pack because I think you mean well but you are totally wrong when you keep thinking that Gretchen didn't have your back when the others were tearing you down. Why can't you see that she did have your back and was trying to mediate and help you to see what the others viewed as your faults. She was really trying to help you see their side and also trying to get them to see what a good person you are. You should go to Gretchen and apologise for not understanding her methods because I can see how hurt you both are and how much you both care for each other. You are not so proud that you cannot be humbled and do what's right. This will make you happy.
Alexis, stay away from Gretchen....she is shallow and that came thru when she said that ugly comment about Slade brother...she thinks she and Slade are so much better than Slade brother...and when you cried after Gretchen said he wished you were at the wedding...Gretchen just sat stone faced, not only is she shallow....this woman has no compassion...you do not need a friend like her...
@Yali Honesty apparently isn't allowed on Reality TV. Shortly after offending her friend at the Glamping party last year, her friend, Gretchen went to her and tried to make amends and say she was sorry....Ironically Vicky was the only person she allowed in that room. I don't understand how Gretchen is suddenly the bad guy in all this????? Tamara is the turn coat here, the fence rider, the back stabber, the woman who can only have one friend at a time, not Gretchen. She tried with all her might in Mexico to stay above it all and be friends with everyone and out of that effort, they all turned on her...and she's the bad guy??? Maybe I watched the wrong season this year???
You are right. Alexis is not the brightest. I can't understand why they keep her on the show. She is boring.
@Dr.Di Alexis need a story line and without V and T, she disappears.....but I agree, trusting those two is like trusting a hungry pit bull not to attack. And yes, Tamara knows what bad pr can do to a housewife and her brand, especially when her lively hood depends on the public and her fans...so Tamara did what was necessary ...and if A falls for it, than she'll get exactly what she deserves...another knife in the back
@Momart333 Gretchen is very secure in her relationship with Slade as he is with her. I personally wouldn't have an issue either. It takes a very confident woman to not read things into harmless events...apparently you have issues???
Momart333....I seriously doubt Slade is fine with that and I also doubt that G acts like that now that she is with Slade.
yet Gretchen "authentically" still wants her friendship with Tamra? She admitted she would still want to be friends with Tamra, but "authentically" doesn't want to be friends with Alexis? How nice and honest of her. I still don't know what Alexis did to Gretchen that was so bad she can't "recover" from it! Give me a break! She's scared of Tamra and needs to kep her enemy close. Alexis is disposable to her, therefore she doesn't even want to bother with her. I am glad Alexis is moving on!
@kackie68 Yep and if you think Tamara wont lie and turn on you like she did Gretchen, then you are a big big fool! Quit judging others. No one is PERFECT! We all have/done things we regret, but we try to make amends and move on.
dragonslayer Helllooo??? Gretchen doesn't want to be friends with Alexis! You must have missed the part where she rejected Alexis' olive branch but admitted at the reunion that she would still love to have a friendship with Tamra. I think Gretchen has the whole rose bush for glasses on cause she's seriously blind!
@dragonslayer Exactly...the "rose colored glasses" fooled her into thinking that Gretchen was her friend! And yes , she should learn from her past experiences and NEVER, EVER trust Gretchen again!
@withak I will say this again and again and again...do these women ever watch themselves on TV? Its on film, its locked in, your comments, your actions and yet.....every single year, we the viewing audience are to forget past seasons and flow with the contridicting lies. Alexis, need to really get with it and stop trying to just fit in for filming purposes....it makes her look fake like the rest of the cast!!
Alexis is FAKE!
@first_timer Apologize for what? What's the point in telling someone how you feel about them and then you go and apologize for doing so. Wouldn't that be a bit confusing? No one is without mistake and true friendship means, that you should be able to tell your friend when they act out. Just because Alexis doesn't do that to others doesn't mean they can't do it to her. It's called life!
@first_timer I think Gretchen just through Alexis a bone because Tamra has made up with her. She's losing Tamra, so she wants to keep someone in her corner. She's so transparent. She's like a junior high girl.
@nvgirl Gretchen wasn't trying to help anyone but herself. She wasn't mediating anything, and she threw her friend under the bus. If she wanted to talk to Alexis one on one about some concerns, fine, but Gretchen just wanted to be part of the gang that targeted Alexis so she could be part of the mean girl group. It was sad and juvenile. As if Gretchen has any concern for Alexis in that situation, please.
Gretchen IS the only one to tell you things to your face..if you continue trying to be friends with the mean girls, you will once again be the target next season..Tamra & Vicky play musical friends every season.
nvgirl.. well if that isn't the pot calling the kettle black. you don't sound so bright if you think how G handled that dinner was considered having Alexis back? Let's all tell you how wrong you are about that and then have your best friend come on here and agree with all of us mean posters who care nothing about and don't even know you. Perhaps you would change your mind about your best friend or at the very least question her friendship with you.
@Debbieinmissouricitytx Alexis is the one who sat stone-faced while Gretchen was in misery. The others, even Vicki, were touched and apologized in that moment. Alexis had no compassion and only reacted when Gretchen brought up her regret for their past friendship.
@Debbieinmissouricitytx maybe Gretchen sat there stone-faced because everyone there came at her..I am sure she doesn't know who to listen to, let alone trust..no one that I can see.
@sincethefirstepisode I had to laugh at your comment so I am putting my reply under your response. : )
I guess I AM alone on here anyway... = D
No real "issues" as far as my relationship with my husband are concerned. @Pottymo13 I just wouldn't sit on another man's lap OR be alright if another woman sat on my husband's lap. I guess, as far as the people I am friends with and myself are concerned, THAT is NOT what people in 'secure relationships' do. Because it's disrespectful.
I just found it an interesting comment for her to make that's all. However, @first_timer may be correct in what she wrote about the situation.
@lizzyann @kackie68 What I find interesting, is that Tamara has double standards...she repeatively lied to Gretchen throughout the show and yet she ditched Gretchen because she "lied" to her? She called Vicky out for being a tramp last reunion in Mexico and yet dismisses Lauri's accusations as lies? She trampled all over Gretchen's reputation for 4 season, bringing up pasts of both her and Slade and yet, whines, that Gretchen won't let go of the past??? I mean does this woman ever watch herself on tv?? She's a walking lunatic!!
apologize for being a big part of the attack on Alexis! Apologize for not sticking up for her against women she knew don't even like her much less try to "help" her be a better person! Apologize for being mean and cruel at the CUT party! Apologize for speaking ill of her to her face and behind her back! Apologize for not being a better friend! Apologize for taking sides with Tamra and Heather! Apologize for just being a flat out b****!!!
@Vivi75 @first_timer If you really want to talk about a sensitive subject with your friend, and you authentically care about them, you do it privately. You NEVER gang up on them in a group of hostile people. That's when you have your friend's back. Gretchen is nothing but a snake. To pretend she had Alexis' best interest at heart is laughable.
patiomama...really? You think Gretchen was right in joinging the other mean girls in pointing out Alexis price dropping or braggin? Yes it is annoying, but so is Gretchen always saying "sunthing" and so is Lydia always saying "like", and so is Tamra with her "f*** my life" and Vicki with her "Woohooing" and Heather with the, "I am the only actress here" "let's be clear on that" attitude! My point is that they all have annoying habits, but not one of them got attacked for something so ridiculous they way that Alexis was. And Gretchen was supposed to be her best friend? I know I do things that annoy the crap out of my best friend, but she accepts those flaws in me and she sure as hell would not sit there and let people attack me for it!
Gretchen is not the first woman, nor will be the last, to want to "change" friends & have someone in her corner....Tamra has that market cornered there....maybe Tamra needs to know what that feels like.."playing musical friends". Vicky - I wouldn't want as an acquaintance, let alone a friend...Heather & Lydia..we will see.
I totally agree with you. When Alexis met with Gretchen to talk things over, I truly believe that G did not know that Tamra and Alexis had "made" up. If she did, I am sure Gretchen would have been more receptive. I almost threw up when she said she missed Alexis at her engagement. Really???? No matter what one thinks of theBellinos, they never judged or spoke bad about Slade and his financial challenges. They even contributed some of their Bravo paycheck towards Grayson's treatment. Alexis always was supportive of Gretchen and Slade. I hope they can work things out, even though at this point the big question is; Are any of these girls really friends with each other???
@joycemarie Just because Gretchen says things to a person's face doesn't make her right in her actions or words! Makes her ugly and cold hearted! Her gall to tell Alexis she has talked badly about her to the other girls doesn't make her better than Tamra and Heather! Ridiculous to think it does!! She made that statement as if it was supposed to vindicate her in everyone's eyes, but it only made her look worse!
Alexis is also the ONLY one who didn't comment on Gretchen's engagement being fake! She never said one mean word or did not chime in when the other girls were attacking her! EVERYONE on those couches attacked G about her engagement, except Alexis!! That says alot! Don't you think that is what prompted Gretchen to say she wished Alexis was there? Becuase she knew Alexis was the only one who didn't feel that way!! DUH!
@Emmanuelle Um, she DID do that privately before they got there. She told Alexis, that the girls have a problem with her and what they are going to tell her. Not sure what you heard, but Gretchen didn't attack her, Gretchen explained how the girls felt about her because she thought maybe as her friend she could get through to Alexis. Personally, I think Alexis is a very insecure woman, that can't handle any criticism from anyone else, other than her husband.
@first_timer Agreed - I don't think it was cool that Gretchen sat there while the mean girls (Vicky & Tamra) gave her "constructive" criticism. I have to say I do not disagree with what they said either, but it is hard when it is done like an intervention. I do remember Gretchen saying over and over "You don't know her like I do - she is a good person"...and then for some reason let only Vicky in her room. I do like Alexis better this year - not trying so hard to seem like the perfect pious family.
@joycemarie I honestly don't think Tamara has any true woman friends....she seems to spend more time trying to snag men to take care of her and her kids. Really a sad human being!!