I, of course, am going to be protective over Tamra, because we had become so close, and be wary of Vicki playing the "poor me card" to pull Tamra back in. Vicki is very good at playing the victim and making everyone feel bad for her. Even Eddie, who was good friends with Vicki, said she is a liar, a manipulator, and can be deceiving in her ways. I was relieved to know it was not just me who feels this way about her.
I wanted Vicki and Tamra to make up, but I believed they really needed to address some serious issues before they could go back to being BFFs. I think a lot of the time they just ignore it and act like nothing happened, which is so odd to me.
I realized at the table that Vicki finally understood what it felt like to have everyone talking crap about your significant other. I don't wish that on anyone; however I am glad she finally understood that it is not a good feeling when you love someone so much, and all you want is people to support you in your decision. Funny how things come full circle. She had so many negative things to say about Slade and it sucked. Thus the reason I have tried to stay mum about Brooks and just encouraged her that if she loves him, she should just be with him. To me that should not be hard.
I questioned Vicki not being honest about her relationship with Brooks because as you will continue to see her story kept changing all season. I believed she was more afraid of the wrath from everyone, or that she was embarrassed to be with him because everyone that was close to her was weary of him. To me if you love someone and truly believe in them being a good person you stick by their side, no matter what. I did with Slade, and it was not hard because I knew what everyone was saying was bull- honkey.
I think Vicki is actually questioning what everyone is feeling because there is part of her that might believe it is true. I don't say that because I don't like Brooks, because I actually find him to be a very charming man. I say that because her actions speak louder than words. Bottom line, I want all of us women to be happy in their relationships and she deserves to be happy, so she cannot worry about what anyone else thinks! She has to do what is right for her and her life.
Gretchen Iove love your hair! Any tips on the new hairstyle? Sorry if you already posted. I'm new to the blog.
Gretchen you are a follower... Nothing more! Tamera has you on a leash... Like a puppy! You look so crazy, you are so scared of Tamera becoming close wirh anyone else but you... Cause you will not have any friends! You have been a bully all season and you need to know Karma is real!
why in the hell do you feel the need to call out tamra about her "voicing a different tune" for nine months? who cares if she swore or whatever it may have been to not talk to vicki ever again? you should have just wrote im glad to see they could talk! you little sh*t starter!
Wow Gretchen you have certainly changed since you first came on the show. You and Tamra are sickening! I can't believe that any of these women would want to spend time with you. You BOTH need to get off the show.
Gretchen you, Heather, And Tamra a re bullies. It is called mob and/or social bullying and all because she wears a fake ring. People annoy us, but we have to be grown up about it and accept people faults and all. Alexis can be annoying, but she has not insulted or deliberatly tried to hurt anyone. Tamra on the other hand is a horrible human being witrh no class or a decent bone im her body. I believe she would sell out anyone to make herself look better.Remember what it was like to be in Alexis shoes, and please come back to the light. you were always so sweet.
Gretchen, I never post on these things but I have to say I've always loved you until last night. I can't believe you treated Alexis so poorly. You two were so close at one time and now you just through her under the bus. Out of respect for your old friendship you should have stayed out of it. Now that your new BFF is Tamara I'm wondering if you are a true friend at all. Tamara was so hateful to you for so long and now you at as if she is the best thing since sliced bread. I think celebratity has gone to your head. I want to see the kinder Gretchen again. I hope after reading all the posts from other people you really take a step back and decide how you want to be seen. Tamara has always been low class and rude. Don't follow in her foot sets. Forgive!!! and Forget!!! with Alexis. If you can do it with Tamara you darn sure can do it with Alexis. Your not in high school don't at like it!! I hope to see a BIG improvement in your behavior and personality. So sad and disappointed in all of you T,H and G!!
Wow last night left me speechless. You have turned into a really immature mean spirited hateful jealous woman. You are incredibly immature and are a kiss up. Tamra last year was your arch eneym and now you are her shadow. How sad for you both. I think you must be incredibly jealous of Alexis, her solid marriage, her conviction, her not needing so desperately to be accepted as you are. Shame on you. You should know better. I realized last night I am done with the show, between Tamra the ring leader, Heather the wolf in sheep's clothing and you, the hanger on/follower who will do anything to be noticed...its all just too much and frankly a waste of my time.
I hope Alexis will get off this show and be done with you. You all deserve each other.
I hope you don't use your personal issues as an excuse for your disgusting behavior. Just keep your mouth shut. You egged on Tamara since the start of her party. You weren't trying to help you were trying to get it to explode. How you have turned against Alexis when she was there for you when Tamara and Vicky were attacking you is horrible.
Wow! Can you say hypocrite? You say she "deserves it", because she showed up in the presence of people who don't like her? If I remember right, you kept showing up in places where Tamra was when she was picking on you a couple seasons ago....guess you deserved it too then?
Also, when Alexis confronted vicki in her first season - she was trying to help the group stand up to what she felt were aggressive/deragatory comments made by Vicki to others. Sure, it could've also been done in private....but you all are just picking on her personality flaws that aren't actualy hurting you, just annoying you. Why have you said nothing about the extremely rude and aggressive comment that Tamra made when she called Alexis "jesus jugs?" Why is that ok?
Grow up, "hypocrite/mean girl/bully". You were just being an ass in that episode.
Gretchen I was so disappointed in your behavior in last nights episode. You are typically very respectful however last night you were out of line completely.
Wow what a nasty mean girl you are. Now I think back to all the dreadful things that Your best buddy Tamra said about you in previous seasons and realise they were true! You were so obviously hanging out for a fight. You all did bully Alexis and it was caught on camera. It sickens me to see you crawling up Tamra's behind, you are so worried that she will become close to Vicki again that you keep causing trouble for them. Grow up mean girl!
"You have a Baby"? WOW, i am seeing a whole new side to you Gretchen. you are looking alot more like Tamra, mean, nasty, disloyal & officially stupid, if you think you found a true friend in Tamra. ALexis was the loyal friend, the one that had your back when Tamra was talking to Slade's "baby mama". now yu treat her awful and i must say this, stop laughing all the time at things you say, your just such a disappointment. I know feel you and Slade are a perfect match, your both flakes
You are beginning to act like Tamra, watch yourself. Picking on Alexis was uncalled for and not what you would normally do. I used to like you till yesterday. I hope you repair this relationship in the future. Picking on Vicki was uncalled for too.
Listen horse face, YOU used to be my favorite, but now that you have a little bit of money...it has gone to your head! I can't even stand to watch you. Good luck, because everything about you is fake...including your friends! The real ones have left the building!
Gretchen, who are you this season? I really was a fan but now you are on the mean girl train with your new best bud Tamara. How quickly you have forgotten how she treated you and you know first hand how that felt. But yet, you jump on the band wagon and treat Alexis that way. Your friendship with Tamara won't be for long. She's already shown you who she is and you chose to side with her. It's only a matter of time before you face the wrath of in need of medication Tamara.
Ganging up on one person as part of a group is bullying, Gretchen, regardless of your attempts to relay the message kindly. If you were a friend or a well-meaning person, you would have invited her out for a 1 on 1 discussion, and gently coached Alexis to change some of her behavior - but instead you joined the mean girls, so now you are one of them.
How can/do you forget what Tamra did to you.......does "NAKED WASTED" ring a bells...... What did Alexis do that could ever compare to how Tamra tired to pimp her son out onto you and you humiliated yourself. I think its time for the OC to replace 3 housewives.
Wow..you sure have been hanging around Slade and Tamara too long. You went from being my favorite housewife to the most hated!! I hope it all comes back to bite you big time!
You were my favorite housewife...even wanted to buy your makeup/purses to support a woman who was building her own business. But once you forgave Tamera you slowly became the person that took the high road to a bitch mean girl. Good luck developing a business and playing the role of a mean girl. You should get in touch with that girl that was on the other side of tameras friendship. You would of called her a bully then but instead of staying true to yourself you became Tameras puppet. I think I did that too in high school so i could be in with the cool girls thank God for growth.
Shame on you Gretchen! The way you treated Alexis tonight at Tamra's party was shameful! I liked you when you first came on but now you have hooked up with Tamra & you have become as mean & nasty as she is.
Gretchen wrote: What I have noticed about her in our past friendship is that even when things are really tough or things are not going well, she puts on this front of "everything is great" even when I knew things weren't. And honestly after a while it just gets draining."
Gee, she could have copy and pasted that right out of Jacqueline Laurita's complaints about Teresa - and it will have equal credibility - none.
I just watched the show 4/22, and I clearly doubt you are happy for Alexis. You have quickly forgotten what Tamra's wrath was like and have turned into a mean girls. Amazing how you stick up for Tamra...... If you had only done the same for Alexis last season.
Commenting on Tamra's dinner at the gym tonight, cuz of course YOU wouldn't have a blog out yet. Alexis came as Vicki's guest & Tamra agreed to it. Apparently Tamra had a change of heart & should have let Vicki know before they got there. She didn't. Alexis was gracious, brought a gift, gave Tamra praise for her business & best wishes for it's success, & sat down. She did say some dumb things in the awkward silences, but not nearly as stupid as the comment you made to Vicki. Alexis did not confront you, or do anything malicious or mean to anyone.
At the table, Tamra asked her a rude question about why she came, & Alexis tried to be very diplomatic & avoid an argument or confrontation. She said this was a night to celebrate Tamra's business, but YOU had to instigate drama & an argument. It was none of your business & Tamra doesn't need you to speak for her. Then Heather did the same thing. You both tried to intimidate Alexis again. You even told her to leave. That's not your place or right since it wasn't your party. Why don't you learn to shut your trap? You're so scared of losing Tamra's friendship if she renews her friendship with Vicki & you hold Alexis in contempt even though you were an awful friend to her - not the other way around. You're insecure.
Gretchen is obviously just a Tamra ass kisser as well as Heather and to see how fast it was for her to rid of a friend who was with her when things were bad is ridiculous. Tamra, Heather and Gretchen are so ridiculous to watch they need an eviction a Bravo eviction. I'm embarrassed as an O.C. resident to call these my "housewives" lol I actually stopped watching it was too disturbing but I still love Bravo and Andy!
Gretchen....you have a such a low IQ that it hurts to watch you operate sometimes!!! I find it disgusting that Slade is continuing to use issues that the women have on the show as the topics for his radio show!!! Can he ever be original & act like a real man for once & stop piggy-backing off of this show?!?!
I'm no fan of Alexis either, but I feel that you wrongly attacked her & that you will do anything to keep her & Vickie @ bay to protect your new relationship w/Tamara! I think that Tamara hurt you sooooo badly in previous seasons, that you're afraid to go back to that place w/her& will do whatever to stay on her good side!!!
Make me a promise please will you please change your laugh, I used to think it was so cute. Now it is self serving.
Gretchan you used to be so nice. You were so pretty but now you are not so pretty anymore, because your personality is ugly. You are a bully you treated Alexis so badly, your kindness is in direct reflection of how you feel about yourself. You no longer are my favorite HouseWife
Where do I start, Gretchen? It seems to me your true self is emerging thanks to your friendship with trailer park Tami, and it's not pretty. I actually found you to be phony when you first appeared on the show - engaged to an elderly man (who, incidentally, seemed very nice) who happened to be wealthy? Give me a break - it was so obvious you were just in it for the money and that you were doing sleazy things the whole time you were with him (plenty of photographic evidence to support this claim). And now Slade? That man's hosted more OC tramps than the St. Regis. Gross.
Hope you've gotten everything you ever wanted, Gretch. You sure have sacrificed a lot to get here, including respect from viewers.
I can only say each season you have been very close to different people. Lynn....then you guys hate one another. Alexis....now you are horrible to her also, and need I say that she stood beside you when ALL of the women went at you?? and now your not friends with her. So now Tamra....guess we will have to wait and see about that one. It appears that for a beautiful woman with so much confidence you sure to take the "Titanic" route to life!! I think you may play a victim card yourself. Everything in your life that happens, especially with friends is always "totally" everyone elses fault. You ladies need to realize how horrible you treat others. If you can't see it then maybe this isnt your gig. Want to route for ya but it's hard when I see such vendictiveness and aggression and inability to accept others for who they are....oh and all the talking you do behind others backs??what's that about (high school garbage)!
When you were being picked on who stuck by you and defended you? The minute you open your mouth, you become hideous. Shame on you!
Gretchen, you and Tamara have turned out to be the biggest back-stabbers of the show. How do you go to someone's party and talk about how they look. I've been to an event where someone immediately started talking about someone they didn't like (as soon as that person arrived). I kindly asked that person to keep their opinions to themselves at least while we were at the event. There is no reason for such "high-school" girl behavior....it is rude and you look like fools. As far as Tamara's dinner party goes (at her new place of business) you had to open your mouth. I don't understand why you girls just get through a meal WITHOUT all the drama. It makes no sense. You need to stand on your own instead of always siding with Tamara. Tamara isn't always right you know ! You keep hanging with her and she will bring you down.
WAke up girl, read your posts, your a hater. Those looks that you spend so much time on are ugly to your fans now. Maybe tv isnt for you. Clearly you dont have a mind of your own.
Gretchen, I have been a fan of yours and the OC Housewives since the inception of the series. Rather then going on and posting a lengthy post, watching you this season is so disappointing. I'm not one to judge, and I'm not sure what has happened to you but you've changed....and it's not for the better. Sadly, you've become one of the mean girls, and it is so unbecoming. Please use this time to reflect on your actions. And remember, it's never to late to change. Best wishes.
Gretchen was buddy buddy with Alexis when she needed her support against Tamra. Now that she is friends with Tamra she has changed. Very two faced when Gretchen brought up what Alexis said about Vicki, when she always tried to get people against Tamra. Sorry but you acted like high school girls. Still love the show. You ought to think about what you said Gretchen. You did the same thing to Tamra when you and she were at odds. Still like you girls though and love to watch!
Do you forget how Tamra spoke about you and Slade??? Like a dog .But you were able to get over that and not the fact that Alexis makes shallow comments because she is insecure. I predict the crumbling of your and Tamra's friendship in the near future and she will talk about you the way she did in the past. Like a dog.
I think you are great. The haters are definitely out in droves...do I like to see you being mean girlish with Tamra? No, but anyone around Tamra becomes the mean girl tagalong. I think you're better than that.
You were my fav until this year. You have gone to the evil side. You need to rethink your friendships.
@cgarden I think your descriptions fit perfectly...
"Between Tamra the ring leader, Heather the wolf in sheep's clothing and you, the hanger on/follower who will do anything to be noticed...its all just too much and frankly a waste of my time.
AGREED! Maybe they should toast with their matching BFF goblets (as Heather mentioned, I LOVE A PARTY FAVOR!)...I guess the Queen of Perfect Behavior didn't realize it was completely tacky because only two people got one. :)
@cgarden true...wonder how proud Gretchen's parents must be??? Gretchen and Slade are made for one another....Dumb and Dumber. It's funny that she wants to be an entrepreneur and sell handbags and makeup. She is so ignorant, she doesn't even realize she is turning off all her potential clients. Gretchen go back and watch the RHONYC when Bethenny Frankel was on it. People loved her that is why her Skinny cocktails flew off the shelves when they hit the market. You not so much!!!
@cgarden I agree & I never even liked Alexis before!! At least Alexis wasn't mean though. She might have been materialist & thought she was better than everyone else, but she was never mean! Gretchen has forgot all the mean/cruel things Tamara did/said to her.
@LosAngelesBravoLover Gretchen is grateful not to be Tamra's target any more. Heather and Gretchen fear her.
@txsnshn even if she were to open her eyes and face reality, who would want her to be their friend again?