So for all the haters out there who are claiming that I am being selfish in this moment: first off what show are you watching and second you can suck it! Even Slade himself said I was being unselfish because I stopped talking about it and hadn't brought it up since things went bad with Gray. I swear sometimes you just cannot win. I mean if I don't bring it up I'll get accused of not being real about it, but if I get asked how come I stopped talking about it by my own partner and respond authentically I get called selfish. It's just crazy! Partners are supposed to talk about everything, all emotions, all issues, all wants and desires, and, quite frankly, I think Slade and I do a damn good job of communicating and really working through the stuff we have going on in our lives. And I am very proud of that!
Slade and I continue this journey of trying to start a family of our own, while caring for his son who is in ICU across the country all the while trying to maintain our jobs, our relationship, and not to mention our sanity. Needless to say it was a tough time for us, and we will take you along that roller coaster ride this season with us. I know many families will be able to relate to us in the simple fact that life is just plain hard sometimes and you aren't always sure how you're going to make it through these moments of stress, sadness, trials and tribulations. It's easy to love in the good times and laugh and be merry, but when the going gets tough that's really a true test of love and commitment and when you see a person's true colors.
Now let's talk about the other fun things that happened in this episode! First of all Lydia's mother! OMG! In love with her! Right? She is such a hoot and I seriously could not stop laughing about how many times her Mom kept saying stoned or bombed or loaded in this episode! I seriously want to get Slade's and Lydia's moms together because I think it would be a show all on its own!
I watched the first show this season and I started to watch the 2nd. I didn't finish watching it because it is not in the least bit amusing. Matter of fact its rather disgusting. I tell you Bravo, I may not watch any more. I really don't like watching a spoiled little girl with her also equally spoiled friend .. Gretchen and Tamra. You 2 are just the pair huh? Oh what fun to watch Gretchen behave the way she really is and WAS. You 2 are about as much trouble as a cloudy day to me. I would not put up with the both of you. It would not take me 5 minutes to say what I think of either one of you. I don't allow selfish, spoiled, rotten, 2-faced, negative, poor little me attitude in friends. Where is the point to having a friend that is all those qualities? If Bravo decides to get some new people I might want to actually watch it. This show is boring. Let me know when we get to the story where you have Tamra turn on Gretchen because she knows all her secrets now.
Gretchen with the sad things going on in your's and Slade's life it seem's you would have learned to have some compassion! Sad! I don't think you and Tamara need to focus on the negative you should focus on positive! I think Alexis is right you are bulling her! Whether you label it bullying or mean what's the difference! Glad you girls aren't my friends!
I am going to tell you as plainly as I can what you do not seem to understand Gretchen. Being honest with a friend and voicing your opinion is honorable as long as it is done caringly in private with your friend. What you did was neither honorable nor caring. You joined an offensive within a forum where Alexis was outnumbered. She had no one in her corner. You could have sat quiet if you did not want to get in the mix. Instead you tarnished your reputation by putting opinion and popularity over friendship and joining the "attack-pack" thereby leaving Alexis alone. Now, Alexis is flawed but so is everyone including you. Yes, She may have done the same to Vicki a season prior but the difference is she was not Vicki's "close" friend. Alexis never did that to you. She always supported you and never joined in with others to attack you and boy they did attack you a lot! Please for the your own sake, do what you told Alexis to do...own it, apologize and move on! Fame and popularity is never worth losing your dignity.
Gretchen, I liked you a lot, but now after you teamed up with Tamra, your behavior is difficult to watch and digest - mean, harsh, rude, is this really what you wanna be?
Gretchen, really? Are you not one of the most self-centered people there are? You do not come across well on the program at all. Just saying....something to think about.
cap1123 Vicki has lapped her five times in the race for the most self centered person.
Gretchen I do not think you were being selfish. I can not imagine what that situation is like in any way. My thoughts and prayers go out to you, Slade and his son. I have two boys and I can not imagine what you are dealing with.
On another note I do think you are a good person however you are just different with Tamra. I know you do not see it nor do you think so but you really are. You are not the same person you were without her. Honestly, everyone sees it but you. I liked your personality without Tamra. She must be insecure because I can never see her saying nice things about people she is always bringing out the negative. You were not like that before, but your life do what you wish I am just letting you know you were a better person without her.
Gretchen saw you on WWHL and I completely believe what Alexis tweeted about you becoming freinds with tamara bc you wanted to be on her good side. Many of us viewers think that anyway. I think you are way more of a liar than Alexis (ie lying about your weave and lip injections)... I just don't beleive Alexis would make that up.
lovelymimi she also did not answer the question about her behavior she side stepped it!
I'm sorry Gretchen. I cannot find anything redeemable about your personality. You and Tamra
ARE bullies, holier than thou bullies. Do you watch yourself? Do you see your insolent, hateful, imperial body language? Do you value anything of tangible value? You are swift to critisize, and loathe to take constructive critisism.
Gretchen ignore the hater's you are not a mean girl or selfish you deserve good things in your life you have worked hard, grab all happiness and go for all your dreams!
Looking Great tonight on Watch what happens Live..Hang in there Gretchen. Just focus on your life with Slade . I know you love him, I really hope and pray it all comes together for you both...You are darling...best wishes..
Gretchen, you have changed, I won't judge your relationship with Tamra only just be careful because she doesn't have the best record of loyalty. Grayson is in my prayers and I hope he gets out of the hospital if he hasn't already and goes home. I'm really sad how nasty people are behaving with their blogs. Honestly, nobody is perfect and to sit and judge just isn't right. When Vickie called you stupid, OMG, you kept your mouth zipped but for once I wish you really socked her one. Talk about rude, she takes the cake on that one. Alexis is a drama queen. All she had to say was that she was there to support Tamra like she told Vickie to say in the text, but no, she has to be the drama queen. Lydia looks like she's trying to understand you but with everything happening, everybody should understand how you feel. Heather is also having a little bit of a challenge lately. Terry is a very nice guy but he reminds me of the nerd guy in high school [before the world comes down on me, I was the fat 5 by 5 in the corner so shut up already] and is totally enjoying his ride right now. Can't blame him but enough already. Heather is strung a little tight but she is awesome with her kids and is a fantastic wife. Terry has a great partner and he knows it. Well, I'll get off my soap box. God Bless and please remember you are a lady and not a bully.
Really? You and Tamra are like two high school mean girls! Plastic,fake,and bullies! It's pathetic and disgusting how you treat people! Grow up and act like women in your 30s and 40's! Not two gossiping,mean,rumor starting teenagers!
Guess it doesn't feel too good hearing the truth...but it was all good when you Tamra and Heather were ganging up on Alexis. The kitchen is HOT!
Just watching the episode again and I totally forgot Vicki called you a stupid person, and you didn't say anything to her! Hello!! She called you a stupid and you didn't even stand up for yourself. Are you scared of Vickie? seems so.. Your so freaking Lame Gretchen. Vicki would of tore your head off and you know this. I'm sitting her listening to Alexis plead with yall to leave her alone. You can't even stand up for yourself. Maybe you weren't sure if anybody would have your back if you went off on Vicki. That was a stupid comment. It's her first Grandchild! Yes its the baby of her baby. Have some kids Gretch before you try to give advice. You will never understand until then.
What kind of message could you possibly have Gretchen? There is not a thing you can possibly say that could eclipse your horrendous behavior. Vicky was right about you all a long. Alexis was the only one that tolerated you while the others pecked at you like Alfred Hitchcock's The Birds. The way you threw Alexis under the bus speaks volumes about your self seeking and selfishness. Your a follower and a bully. Own it.
I am struggling with infertility and though I know that isn't what you are going through, I do wish you the best of luck with being able to have a child of your own. With that said, if you do have a child, you are going to have to grow up and stop being such a selfish person. Tamra has always been rude since the beginning but I tolerated her because of her friendship with Vickie. I don't understand what has happened to you this year, but WOW you have turned into a total bully. Have you went back and watched the episodes? I hope that you will, and learn that you are so ugly acting the way that you do. The words that come out of your mouth are not what I would have expected from you. I am no longer a fan and if you keep up this attitude on the show its safe to say that BRAVO will lose yet another viewer due to the mean girls.
Gretchen, kissing Tamra's behind is unbecoming. What else will you do to "fit' in. Get a clue!
Wow! To the last several comments below.... All of the behavior that you are talking about Gretchen for you are displaying in a extremely more hurtful way. Gretchen has her faults but so does everyone else. I think she is one of the most honest people and stays true to herself through all of the bull. And she has never seemed smart to you?? She seems pretty smart to me.. she does well for herself and has figured out how to take care of herself without a man supporting her! So with that said... your moma should have raised you with some manners.. if you dont have anything positive to say.. shut your mouths!!!
cstar04 Well I guess your mama didnt do such a great job herself. As for Gretchen her actions calls for a response. Gretchen is not true to herself because if she was she would stop being such an ass kisser to Tamra and do the right thing!! so if you dont like it to bad!!!
@cstar04 Gretchen is the exact opposite of someone who has been "true to herself". Gretchen, along with her noticeably silent sidekick, are the most self-centered people I've ever seen.
Just because someone isn't perfect doesn't mean you can gang up on them and throw them to the sharks. Okay, we all have friends who have flaws, some are loosey goosey, flakes, irresponsible, brag too much, swear too much, but in the end, if someone messes with them...you are done. You are a holly go lightly type of friend, and, interestingly, so isn't Tamara so you two are a match made in heaven. I have plenty of friends who may not want to hear me the first time when I try to help them, but it does not mean I am going to give up. Tamara has stabbed every friend she has in the back, look at her track record, shame on you. If you think that your, Tamara and Heather's behavior was okay to do to someone who was trying to be supportive of a friend and put the past behind her....think again. Secondly, Tamara, since when doesn't speak her mind...she knew she was going to attack Alexis, so that is why she agreed to allow her to come....we are not blind, stupid, or deaf...I hope Eddie wakes up before he ruins his life....
Gretchen: The first couple of seasons I watched you, you were a kind soul and my favorite housewife. Your new found mean-spirited, hateful, selfish, rude, thoughtless, immature, did I mention SELFISH behavior makes me turn my TV off. Get over yourself, realize what is important in life, drop the toxic Tamra relationship and realize that Heather is a rude neophyte to the show who shows her lack of self confidence each and every time she is on camera. I feel horrible for her husband that he has to live with her. Gretchen, you have never seemed smart to me, but I do remember you being kind. Let's get back to that . . . okay?
@smithpk66 , I dislike Tamra more than anyone on TV, but I can't help but believe she was right about Gretchen all along. She lies,she's mean, she's sneaky. She just had most of us fooled. Well, she had me fooled and I don't like feeling foolish.
Why do you guys continue insisting on Alexis behavior, just let her be! Off course she does not want to hear about it, especially coming from women who are wanting to humiliate her. It's BS when you say you are only wanting to help her, it's sad to see how fake you have become.
@Yvette1506 , I agree. She's never done anything to any of them. They are not good people.
Yvette1506 Actually, they were leaving Alexis alone, and Vicki brought her back into everything.
I think your awesome, beautiful and keep your chin up..... You will always have jealous haters. Do what feels right for you, your life and your relationship. Of all the OC ladies your my favorite. Keep it classy !
@ReneeHopkins Did you say "classy"? Are we watching the same show?
I really need to watch more of this show to figure out who is nuts and who isn't. I think Gretchen probably just has a more natural friendship with Tamra than she did with Alexis. I don't think Alexis is a bad person at all but I do think she is a bit over the top with the husband thing and religion but to each his own.
I do think that this whole cast is a bit caught up in their own instant fame though. I don't think they realize that when this show is done so are they. These sort of insta -celebrities have a short shelf life. I know there are few exceptions to that rule..but think about it. How many insta-celebrities have there been and how many turned it into an actual career?
Anyway, I don't think Gretchen is a bad person from what I see, I think she sticks to whatever suits her at that moment in her life. Now, I guess that is Tamra.
Bigwednesday Yeah, you need to watch more of the show, especially if this is your first or 2nd season. I would if I were you, it will give you a more accurate picture of what is going on. I don't normally reply to these blogs but I just made up a user name and password because I am getting so riled up over their behavior, I might just have to reply to their blogs (this is my first time replying).
Quite shocked at Gretchens personality transplant, Alexis always had her back when Tamra was bitching about her and now she's teamed up with Tamra and BULLYING Gretchen! That last vicious attack was obviously pre planned. Tampa could have diffused that situation before hand by sending Alexis a discreet text saying not to come. She just wanted maximum drama and humiliation!
Gretchen I love your hair. And Slade is not a sleazy man, he is not! And Gretchen, you have standards when it comes to friends and boyfriends. You are a deep soul, with deep convictions.
BrandiRocks Everyone has standards, hers are too low, that's the problem. If she makes friends with someone from a ghetto who is screeching at parties, throwing wine into people's faces, rumoring, calling names, cursing, and bullying, and she starts doing the same, she should be ready when people comment on her behavior toward others.
@BrandiRocks Deep!?!? There is nothing "deep" about Gretchen! She said herself that she is one of the mean girls sitting at the lunch table where no one else is welcome.
BrandiRocks OK Brandi, I am lmao. Thanks for the laugh.
I'm TEAM ALEXIS even more after reading this post by Gretchen.
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I'm with you, I'm even more Team Alexis after this blog by Gretchen. I just wish the "old" Gretchen would come back, the one that existed before she became friends with Tamra. I liked her so much better.
I have to agree the way you are with Vicki is rude and just mean. Tamra is not coming across the screen as a nice girl so you look so jealous trying to defend her where Vicki isconcerned. You really should stay out of their affair you have nothing to do with it so let them put their friendship back together without your input, espically a negative one at that. Wishing Slade's son the best and hope his family can have some peace.
annesworld Vicki has been nothing but rude to Gretchen, in every season. Gretchen didn't say don't be friends with Vicki, she said watch your back if you do. I agree with that. Vicki is the person who is all fine and "whoo hoo" until you dare to disagree with her or not do what she tells you to do.
Jodibelle annesworld Tamra said very clearly that Eddie and Gretchen dont want her to stay friends with Vicki!
Yali annesworld I don't blame them. And in the last two episodes I've seen why. They're not pressuring her. No one brow beat her, but Vicki has proven herself.
Are people hating when they are showing your true colors? It would be nice to see the nice girl you once were but hanging around with Tamra has changed you for the worse. If you don't see that when you watch these episodes, then I do truly feel sorry for you. There are no justifications for your mean actions towards Alexis yet you try to make excuses all the time. The truth is if you no longer like her or want to consider her your friend, so be it. It is your right. But what ever happened to showing others - even those you don''t like are are simply in your presence - some simple common courtesy and respect. Is that difficult for you to do? The point is the conversation was between Tamra and Alexis and you just butted in and acted so immature. Geez....open your eyes and take a good look at yourself! Instead of you feeling sorry for Alexis, you are the one (along with Tamra) who most of all are pitying. You both are that pathetic!
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I agree with you prbronze103. Gretchen was my favorite housewife by far but since she has become friends with Tamra I'm seeing a complete opposite person from who she was before. Gretchen's behavior at the dinner party was shocking and childish in my opinion. I have so much more respect for Alexis and how she handled those bullies at the dinner. Like it or not Gretchen needs to own up to the fact that she, Tamra and Heather are bullies, plain and simple. I would also know why everyone is now considered "haters". Just because people and many here I see were hugs fans of you Gretchen at one time but because we are speaking our minds about your behavior and your extreme personality change doesn't make us haters. Can we give you the same advice you gave to Alexis? If you can't take the "heat" maybe it's time to get out of the kitchen. You signed up for this reality show so just like you are allowed to express your opinions on your blog and on Twitter aren't we the fans also able to express our opinions? Maybe you shouldn't sit at the lunch table anymore and allow your lunch money to be taken Gretchen. Isn't that the same advice you had for Alexis? Could it be time for you to quit the show and move on with your life if you are unable to accept our opinions without calling people that were fans of yours now haters because we don't like the change in you? We most certainly are not jealous of you Gretchen because at least for me, beauty inside is far more important than the beauty outside and since you have become friends with Tamra there is no longer much beauty left inside and it's getting uglier and uglier and more childish by the week. Alexis had your back so many, many times when Tamra was attacking you over the years Gretchen and to see you turn so violently nasty and vile to because her now is very is so shocking and disappointing. I agree with what prbronze said about pitying you Gretchen and Tamra because without a doubt you both are pathetic and mean. You don't like Alexis any longer that's fine but seriously did you have to turn so vicious, vile and into a downright bully?
LiveLife prbronze103 Thank you, thank you, thank you so much for writing this!!! I also would like to know why everyone is now considered a "hater"!
Just watched the dinner party episode again. Horrible behavior by grown women. Tamara, Heather and You are just plain and simple BULLIES
Before you buy Gretchen brand handbags and makeup, remember she said we can 'suck it'! Yeah, that makes me want to buy your stuff! LOL
I really hope you are off the show next year, so tired of Slade.
Happening ROGLOL!! Brilliant comment, I couldn't agree more!





Gretchen, I used to really like you, but you have changed and not for the better. Some of the remarks you made to or about Alexis at Tamra's dinner were terrible. You should have kept your mouth shut instead of egging on a confrontation. You haven't been a nice person this year, and watching you is giving me a headache!
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