Tamra Barney

Tamra doesn't understand why Gretchen dwells in the past, when she has so much to hide in it.

on Aug 13, 20130

I would like to say "I hope you enjoyed part one of the reunion show" but it's hard for me to say when all you get to see is a bunch of grown woman fighting. Filming the reunion show is never easy, I had anxiety just watching it and I LIVED IT. It is NOT my idea of fun to go back and relive all the things that made us upset in the past season, but thats the nature of the show.

Andy brought up the 100th Episode the second we sat down, thats when I knew things were going to get bad fast! While filming the 100th episode I was asked about the last six years I had been on the show and of course they wanted to know about my epic fight with Gretchen. It was not an easy thing to visit since we had moved on. . .or had we?

When I sat down with Gretchen two years ago I wanted to move on and thought I was being the bigger person by saying "SORRY and let's move on." By saying I was sorry I was NOT saying "I was lying about what I saw." I knew what I saw and she knew it. In my 45 years of living I have realized that rumors will fade fast but lies can haunt you forever. Gretchen continues to talk about the past to everyone. It would be in her best interest to just stop talking about it and everyone else would too. The fact that she sat down with Lauri and brought it up again was stupid of her. She opened the door for everyone to revisit the story, including Alexis who had kept the secret for years.

1194 comments
BrendaV
BrendaV

I hope in this new season that Gretchen is out of there, gone, not coming back. Hope they didn't dump Alexis, she is the only one who is not into herself to the point of being sickening.


Reba39forever
Reba39forever

Not interested in the trashy new line up. Same people the did not watch the trashy wedding will not watch this version of the OC.

leenelvis
leenelvis

Tamra  -You are such a pretty woman - but your soul is so ugly.  I think you are probably the 2nd most repulsive character on Bravo with the exception of Icky.

drakey
drakey

I just heard that Gretchen and Alexis is fired but TRASHY TAMRA and VILE VICKY will be back!! I'm done will not watch one episode!

bzshannon
bzshannon

Tamara did Eddie get to see those guys at the Vegas stripe party? Oh my Gosh it was horrible to watch those guys degrade you like that. It was sexual assault. Dear me you could feel that man's penis, couldn't you. Y our children will see that. What can they say when their friends make fun of them. How can they save face.  Wow you have a lot to make up for. The wedding was beautiful. Not sure if Eddie is 100 percent into this. He got railroaded alittle. Oh well you have a life time of trying to be good enough for him. I wish you the wisdom to understand male pride and what being a wife means to men and to children. You and Vicki will probably be the ones t spend your old age together.

sunshinesandnme
sunshinesandnme

Really Tamara...2 males watching you get waxed??? You are the trashiest female alive!!! 

amandrew
amandrew

Tamra, you should leave the show while you have some dignity and self-respect. I have probably never seen such a troubled person on a show. I am concerned that you are putting the fame and fortune over your family and your mental health. I wish you the best but this show has brought you more stress and heartache than financial success.  

dragonfire
dragonfire

Continue to be "real" w/ all it's imperfections!  Vicki is a Train wreck!  Gretchen is Narcissistic! Alexis is Refreshing! Lydia is Interesting! and Heather is Boring!

Christene30
Christene30

Tamra, I just watched Monday night's episode.  I live in the OC, so naturally like to view in, when I get the chance.  By the way, I have always thought you were fun, a bit spicy when you speak your mind, but a good friend in the end,  and very true to yourself.   I look beyond all the drama,....  let's face it, once the camera rolls, nothing is 100% "real". 

 

I think this show, above all, was your best one yet.  It really showed how you are this very strong woman who can conquer and come out of a mold from a "dysfunctional" sort of family that you were raised in.   Good for you!   Keep up the great work!  ...   and  "Keep it Real" :-)

 

Best!

 

kindr002
kindr002

Wow...there are so many distasteful comments on here! Well, I for one, love you and you really make the show fun! I've enjoyed this season of RHOC, even though there is sooo much fighting...but its all hilarious in the end. Everybody has their own issues and drama in their lives and if it was put on TV, it wouldn't always be pretty. Congrats on the wedding! ~Claudia

Golfview
Golfview

Tamra, you are the one who should stop bring up the past to Gretchen.

LBGirl.
LBGirl.

Tamra, I would hope that you watched the season and saw how easily Vicky manipulated you back into her clutches. Gretchen may not be perfect but she is a much better person then Vicki. Did you not see how jealous Vicki is? Just look at how badly she acted in Mexico. Gretchen went to all that trouble to throw you a bachelorette weekend getaway and you ditched her to go with Vicki. Seriously? Such poor manners. You owe Gretchen a huge apology for that. You felt so close to Gretchen that you confided in her you suicide attempts. You never told Vicki that. Why is that? Could it be that you can trust Gretchen more then Vicki? I would think so. Think about that. Shame on you for dumping Gretchen so easily and running back to that hateful, jealous and lying Vicki. Read these comments to realize you were a much nicer person when you were Gretchen's friend. With Vicki you change into someone that a lot of your viewers do not like. We have all seen the nice fun person you can be get yourself back to that.

berkeleybumblebee
berkeleybumblebee

Surely if you have known Vicky as long and well as you claim, you are aware of her lies. Why are you so enraged with Gretchen and not Vicky?

JoJett
JoJett

charnorm. Hey, friend, speak for yourself, please. You need to speak only of your feelings and thoughts and how you think things should be. You can't say, "...well we as the viewing audience do not." As much as you clearly would like to, you don't speak for all of the "viewing audience." I am part of the "viewing audience" and you certainly don't speak for me.

 

Speak for yourself, friend. You don't speak for others. Restrict your comments to how YOU feel.

tjjpt
tjjpt

You have it all wrong. You should never say " I am sorry." so that you are a bigger person. You apologize when you feel you have behaved wrong. You apologize when you have remorse and feel ashamed of how you have treated people. You do not apologize to show that you are more magnanimous. You do not apologize because you have hurt other people's feeling but refuse to admit your bad behavior. That is a non apology, it is just  euphemism.

Now move on to the next observation; you and your soul sister, Vicki, have a similar stupid behavior.  You two do not know how to talk calmly like Lauri. When being called out, you two screamed instead of giving an intelligible counter point. Very prehistoric, I must say. You guys hoped that your loud howls would drown out other people's voice. Hahaha.

niceocgirl
niceocgirl

You have a truly amazing sense of entitlement while you acted so indignant and insulted with Eddie's. Vegas behavior! Why is it ok that you played the harlot in Mexico--one of the raunchiest things I've ever seen-- (and you easily could've walked out of that, rather than staying while 2 male strippers push their erect male parts into your face and on your buttocks and another began to open your legs to do God only knows what)....yet Eddie was "way out of line" when a stripper played naughty with him? ( what comes around goes around, ever heard that before?) Piece of advice--Since Eddie isn't a pushover and seems like a nice , loving guy: you better change your ways real quick, or the 3rd time won't be a charm and everyone will know it was you and not Simon who destroyed the last marriage! You appear to not have learned a thing! Please, decide which you want to be: lady or tramp?

Bigwednesday
Bigwednesday

I think you are the best reality tv personality out there and that is not a compliment. To be the best you have to do whatever it takes for camera time. I think as a reality show persona you do it well. You are mean, spiteful, angry

and it shows in your eyes.

I don't know if this is who you truly are...I sure as heck hope not....but do wish you well in your workout center business....you are really good reality tv Tamra and that's it  I guess.

JackieInIllinois
JackieInIllinois

I have to agree with most of the comments made. You are the two faced mean girl. You turned on Gretchen so fast, it shocked me. I really had hopes for you when you became friends with her. I thought it might have been you trying to improve yourself. I hoped Gretchen's ways would rub off on you. But I guess that was too hard for you. Instead, you went right back to being the mean girl. Maybe Gretchen doesn't have enough drama for you. Is that why you turned on her? I was just as dumbfounded as she was. You know,... you can have more than one friend. It isn't that hard. It only requires you to be honest with both of them. To their faces as well as behind their backs. It was BS to "forgive" her at the start of the friendship, only to play the same "cheating" card when you had to defend your unfounded betrayal of Gretchen, that led to the loss of the friendship. You know your "distrust" of her is just a guise you stand behind. If you came clean, you would have to look in the mirror to see that you really are the mean girl. I used to feel bad for you when you were with Simon, but now I think I understand where he was coming from. You need someone to put you in check once in awhile.

mp.212
mp.212

Good grief... I only saw five minutes of your wedding spinoff, and let me tell you... you're relationship/marriage definitely looks solid.  Pshhh yeah right.  I would be so embarrassed if I was one of your children.  You dress like a hooker!  In that five minutes I saw a sequined blue cloth that you used string to tie it around your back... so classy.  You definitely look and act serious about getting married... again.  For the third time.  I'm sorry, but this marriage has the shelf-life of a banana.

charnorm
charnorm

Tamra, I made a big effort not to watch your wedding show. I was hoping BRAVO would not try to sell you to the viewing audience. We are not buying you. What you show us is who you really are. Gretchen may not be perfect,but she is nothing like you and Vicki. You two are two of the worst houswives on this franchise. Andy Cohen says he likes the way you tell it like it is, well we as the viewing audience do not. I hope Eddie finds out who you really are. I hope before long the real Tamra will show up and the reason the other two husbands left will come to light. The way you treated Gretchen was horrible. She was a true friend to you. You sat on the reunion show with Vicki like two B.... in a stye. When I watch you and Vicki together, I feel like I need to take a shower. You two look very nasty to me. Its like you look at a person and you feel you need to go to a clinic and get a shot. When you were with Gretchen she improved your character on the show, but then you got back into bed with Slick Vicki. Watching Vicki cry over a man who had spoken to her daughter was disgusting. Tamra you need to take a dip in the class, integrity, honesty,  and loyalty pool for friendship. Because you played Gretchen real good! Shame on you. You are no ones friend. I hope you will not get a spin off, because I am sure a lot of people will not watch it.

colissa
colissa

I do hope you are gone next season.... You have turned out to be a nasty 2 faced woman who will reap what she sows.....!

MomLeader
MomLeader

Tamra, I really fell for the "I wanna improve myself and the cruel reactions I have-I hate me this way" garbage you handed us this season. And telling us you were going to work on yourself?? Ummm yeaaa,,,the truth of the matter is, you work very hard at the mean girl science you have down but good. You actually enjoy torturing a friend (we've watched you for years.) You enjoy that moment when that person realizes you've turned on them, and they know they are in for your hate fest. The fear in their eyes is real because we've all seen the pattern, especially them!  Hear this: It doesn't matter Tamra if you recognize it and by your own admission, it's your own insecurities--DOESN'T MATTER--the fact of the matter is you still do it, over and over.  And the part that makes you someone not worth knowing is you enjoy it. I'm positive you enjoy it because every time it starts, to whichever girl you've decided to target (Vicki, Alexis, Grethcen, etc) you get this weird sick smile, with a nervous head nodding...it's like an addict enjoying the score. You enjoy the fear in their eyes and the power bullying in numbers gives you. Unfortunately Gretchen was so scared of you after living through your wrath, she became a bully like victims usually do, but now she's living with the aftermath from the audience,,,while you are no worse for the wear. The only reason you went back to Vicky is because she was moving on--you hated that--power gone--so you sucked her back in and felt so awful about yourself again, you turned on Gretchen. Doesn't matter why-doesn't make you a tolerable person because you recognize it. What does define you is you keep doing it. It's your essence. When they all turn on you is the day we'll cheer at home, and the leader will be the new break out star. You're just a mean person. You just are. You enjoy it too much. And stop with the I'm fixing myself---we aren't as stupid as you think.

Reba39forever
Reba39forever

@amandrew dignity - self respect that ship sailed at least two weddings ago.

ccollier08
ccollier08

the fact that you said Alexis is refreshing makes your post null and void!

judith2
judith2

 @kindr002 Are you serious, you can't be watching the same Tamra I'm watching.  She deserves every distateful comment posted here.  She is a monster of a friend.

FayYarranton
FayYarranton

 @kindr002 So, you wouldn't mind someone continuing to call you a liar, when it has been proven  your not, You go out of your way to make a special day, then basically she dumps you to hang with another friend, who she claims to hate. That she actually admits that she lies to you, but, "owns it". And laughs in your face! Your moral code is in the dumps like Tamra and Vicky and it is NOT FUNNY or entertaining. It is so sad. 

angelwings9195
angelwings9195

 @LBGirl. I was thinking that maybe Tamra told Gretchen that because at the time she was starting to show big signs of being two-faced and contradicting herself everytime she turned around.  So instead of owning up to her hypocritical actions she shoveled the bs on thick, thinking that might be so dramatic that Gretchen wouldn't  be questioning the earlier behavior.  Manipulation was her poison, too bad she didn't think it all out before hand.  From the minute that Heather categorically stated that Gretchen didn't merely misunderstand the role situation, she LIED, Tamara has turned into that evil-eyed Tamara from the olden days.  And as it was brought up about  the "stop living in the past, and enjoying the now friendship was probably not sincere from the get go for Tamara.  Gretchen was played, Tamara is just to competitive to have a friendship with Gretchen.  At least that is my opinion about how things got to the drawing the line in the sand with this group. 

ilcntrygrl
ilcntrygrl

 @LBGirl.

 Did you not see how boring the bachelorette trip was before Vicky, Tamera, Lydia snuck off?  Vicky has been friends with Tamera for years and knew that a party was in order!!

angelwings9195
angelwings9195

 @berkeleybumblebee  maybe it's easier to be the shining star standing next to Vicky?  Yeah Vicky is successful and funny mostly, but she's not a bombshell in a skimpy bikini, so all eyes would go on Tamara, at least until Gretchen walks into the scene.  I wonder if that has something to do with why Tamara decided to have a man to stand with her at her wedding. 

charnorm
charnorm

 @JoJett Dear Friend, my comments were meant for the VIEWERS who do agree with me. I really do not care whether you or anyone else feels differently. I only made a general comment because the viewing audiences comprises those who agree and those who do not.  I can speak which ever way I want to and if I want to phrase my comments the way I did, I will continue to do so. So please save your time responding to my comments unless you are Sleazy Tamra. Do you know what kick boots mean?

yvonnio
yvonnio

 @JoJett I think @charnorm was ok when saying "we" because many people on here (perhaps the majority) have voiced a very similar distaste for her actions.  I for one have also avoided watching her wedding antics just because I have been so disappointed with the manipulative selfish way she acted this season.  So by saying "we" she is just echoing the many people on here who feel the same way, not necessarily everyone who watches.  

ilcntrygrl
ilcntrygrl

 @tjjpt

 Why do ALL of these women keep saying they are "being the bigger person" when they are acting so horribly?

FayYarranton
FayYarranton

 @mp.212 I love it. And your one liner , "this marriage has the shelf life of a banana". #Priceless.

JoJett
JoJett

 @charnorm Hey, friend, speak for yourself, please. You need to speak only of your feelings and thoughts and how you think things should be. You can't say, "...well we as the viewing audience do not." As much as you clearly would like to, you don't speak for all of the "viewing audience." I am part of the "viewing audience" and you certainly don't speak for me.

 

Speak for yourself, friend. You don't speak for others. Restrict your comments to how YOU feel.

Golfview
Golfview

 @colissa

 I hope she is gone also and I hope Vicki and Alexis go with her.

charnorm
charnorm

Dear MomLeader, I agree with your comments, but I feel the look in the other ladies eyes was Shock. They actually bought into Tamra changing and actually being their friends. The expressions on their faces when they found out she was lying and being a fake all along was something else. Poor Gretchen really thought Tamra was her friend and her BFF!

No one has commented on watching Tamra sit on some guys face, and they stood up grabbing her crouch. (I wonder if Eddie saw that?)

ilcntrygrl
ilcntrygrl

 @MomLeader

 It is obvious her "bad childhood" was public relations to try to rehabilitate Tamra's image and explain why she is so horrible to people.

FanViewerNJ
FanViewerNJ

 @MomLeader

 You are sooo right--I've noticed her cruel smirk and nervous head nodding when she has a "friend" squirming because she's decided to turn. It's like the creepy snake in the cage when the mouse is petrified in the corner--especially when she knows it's on camera...I don't even like watching the show anymore cuz she's so cruel to one at a time...And you're right--who cares that she's "reconized" it--tha just means she's even crueler cuz she keeps dong it. ANd "wine,wine boo hoo" about her childhood. Lots of ppl didn't have lots of warmth in their home, doesn't mean they grow up to bully women unmercifully as an adult--ruining other's emotional lives...Just mean! 

JoJett
JoJett

 @yvonnio  @charnorm 

 

Oh, and one more thing, yvonnio, you don't have the authority to tell charnorm that it is "ok" for him or her to speak for others. You are in no position to grant permission to anyone to speak for other people, except yourself.

 

You are actually doing the same thing as charmom. Did all of the 2.2 million viewers give you permission to tell charnorm that it is ok for him/her to speak for them?

 

I know they didn't, because as one of the 2.2 million, I haven't given you that authority.

JoJett
JoJett

 @yvonnio  @JoJett  @charnorm

 

I'm sorry, but you are wrong and you have completely missed the point.

 

When someone makes a statement and uses the word "we," it means that person is speaking for everyone in a defined group (like a viewing audience, which in this case, is 2.2 million people), or if they use "we" and they are meaning everyone in the world, no group at all. And that is fine, if everyone in those groups gave the person authorization to speak for them.

 

However, when someone is using the word "we" and not everyone has given that person permission to speak for them, then it is arrogant, untrue and wrong.

 

In this case, charnorm stated, "Andy Cohen says he likes the way you tell it like it is, well we as the viewing audience do not."

 

I am part of that viewing audience of which he/she speaks and I did not, have not and would not give charnorm the right to speak for me.

 

So, no, yvonnio, it is most certainly not "ok" for charnorm to say "we" in the manner in which he/she used it in that comment. Not all of the 2.2 million people in the "viewing audience" has given charnorm the right to speak for him or her.

 

It makes no difference if other people have expressed similar opinions. The subject or opinion has no bearing whatsoever on this conversation. It has to do with someone taking it upon him or herself to claim that he or she speaks for everyone.

 

While I'm sure that charnorm is a lovely person, he/she does not have the authority to speak for everyone in the viewing audience.

 

I think the problem here may be that you don't understand the concept of what I am talking about, and that is something I can't do anything about. I hope I have explained it in a manner which brings you understanding.

charnorm
charnorm

 @yvonnio  @JoJett  @charnorm Thank you yvonnio, you expressed exactly what I was trying to say. There are many viewers out there, I was reading similiar comments to how I felt, so I phrased my comments in general terms. Thanks for getting that.

mp.212
mp.212

 @FayYarranton  Ha thanks.  It's the truth though.  Eddie will get tired of putting up with her psycho antics soon enough.  I mean geez, they were already arguing over stupid wedding invitations for crying out loud.  I mean, who seriously argues about that??

charnorm
charnorm

So out of everything I said, the only thing that bothered you was "viewing audience".  Your sense of getting the whole picture is very limited. Friend! By the way I did speak my own feelings, but you only got two words. Wow!

TulsaHousewife
TulsaHousewife

 @Golfview  @colissa

 I like Vicki and Alexis....it is Two-faced Tamra that I DON'T like. If you have something she wants then she will be your friend...otherwise Terrible Tamra shows up. Just look at how she trashed Vicki, and then Gretchen.

mpamoo
mpamoo

 @JoJett  @angelwings9195

 

 Oh my. I have to honestly say that I have never posted on this blog before. Ever. Yet, here I am. I am not here, however, to comment on the Housewives. It's entertaining to watch, and I do enjoy reading the blogs, but that's about it. I would like to comment on you, JoJett. Your posts are really bizarre, plain and simple. I'm thinking that you are either A) Kidding around, and just trying to get a rise out of people for fun; or B) Very, very serious and angry about "we". I'm hoping it's the former, but I fear it's probably the latter. The fact that you actually took the time to go on.....and on and on and on about the innocent use of the word "we" on this blog is most peculiar. Furthermore, that fact that you chose this particular blog to go on an absurd rampage is even more worrisome. I hope that you are doing a little better today. Although, I am most likely going to get a rise out of you as well. Should be interesting :)  ......and yes, I agree, why in the world am I choosing to respond? Anyway, looking forward to the next batch of Housewives! This series truly is so entertaining to watch.

JoJett
JoJett

 @angelwings9195  Sir or Madame, as you can see, this is an old posting and nothing has been said on it in at least 10 days.  What is senseless is YOUR post. You stated, "I think the point has be made and maybe we can all move on to the next scene."  Well, friend, that point was made anywhere from 13 to 10 days ago and since nothing has been added in 10 days, the participants clearly had ALREADY MOVED ON. 

 

If you wanted to "move on" from this "senseless" disagreement, then why did you post on it 10 DAYS after the last word had been said on it? 

 

One thing I loathe is people like you who try to write as if they are above the lowly conversations being conducted on comment boards, as if their comment is somehow not to be included in the same lowly category as the other comments, and like you have looked down from your perch above and spoken what you believe to be the final and only legitimate words posted on a subject.

 

YOU are the one who brought this back up after 10 days. We had already completed this conversation.

 

Why don't YOU move on.

angelwings9195
angelwings9195

 @JoJett  @yvonnio  @charnorm this disagreement is kind of senseless if you compare it with the way some of the comments, especially those on the RHWOM lately.  The generalization implied was not intended to offend those with different opinions,  It's almost like you are the 8th grade English teacher trying to school the unruly student.  Just be happy that the comments haven't stooped to the petty childish insults like, "oh she's just a copycat" and if weren't for her, she wouldn't even be relevant on this show".  I think the point has be made and maybe we can all move on to the next scene.

charnorm
charnorm

 @JoJett  @yvonnio  She does if I give it to her!!!  You really do not get it. There is something wrong with you that you do not understand when someone is speaking in general terms. If someone agrees with my "viewing audience" then thats fine. For those who do not, so what. Know one gives a rats ass about "your personal viewing comments"

JoJett
JoJett

 @sincethefirstepisode 

Yes, I am for real, and thank you for asking.I, too, am a viewer since the first episode. It's been quite a ride, hasn't it! Also, it has been a fun ride, and I've enjoyed watching these women grow over the years. Some of them have grown over time, and unfortunately, some don't seem to have grown much at all.Glad to see there is another long-time viewer out there like me!

drakey
drakey

 @charnorm Either JoJett loves you or hates you, I'm not sure which!!!But she/he is definitely on your heels! WOW