Hello my little gym rats. I don't want to be accused of bullying, but I definitely think you should read on to make sense of the antics that went down in Tamra's gym.
We open with Alexis visiting her good pal Vicki. Alexis brings Vicki a mirror so she can fully appreciate her newly style face -- and of course celebrate the fact that she was actually always beautiful. When Alexis said the mirror was for her to remember how beautiful she was on the inside, I really wanted the mirror to just hold a picture of Vicki's heart, because symbolize, you know? But I suppose this is a much more useful present.
Besides just talking about pretty faces, Vicki had a real request during their visit. She wants Alexis to come with her as support (back-up?) for Tamra's big gym event. Vicki wants everyone to take their meanness to the playground -- not the gym, which is confusing because most grade schoolers also have a gym class. And so after some caterwauling, Alexis decides to attend. However, that does lead to two other issues. One: Vicki was having a hard time grasping the idea of wearing a dress to a fitness studio. Did Tamra tell them this wasn't a workout session? Why was this such a trouble spot? Can't you at least wear dresses in Zumba? Issue two was a little more pressing, Alexis also wanted to bring her pal Lydia. Alexis already had plans with the "Christian on steroids" (her words, because I think Lydia looks a little small to have been juiced), so why not throw her into the mix too? This whole dinner party is like mancala. Pick up whoever, whenever!
You know what I dont understand... if Gretchen was able to forgive Tamra sfter all things she has done to her, what is so hard in forgiving Alexis. Alexis was there for her when she wss considered the golddogging pariah of OC. Im sorry, I cannot see exactly what Alexis has done to Gretchen that would make her hate her that much other than the fact that Tamra has targeted her. I also agree that they bullied her. I was bullied as a teenager, and I swear when I watched.this episode it gave me chills. I don't know why I kind of feel like Tamra wanted to do this to Alexis. Like the minute she said yes, she already had it in her head to kick her out that way.. I could not watch anymore after that. I feel like Tamra ruined her own dinner for the sake of ratings and a paycheck.
I am so disappointed with the show this season. I have watched this show from the beginning, and it is sad to see what it has become. Tamara seems to be insecure, mean and out of control as the shows progress and it has caused an infectious and toxic environment that is becoming difficult to watch. Vicki seems timid, withdrawn and lonely. Gretchen can't have a positive thought or say a positive word, and there just doesn't seem to be anything fun about the show. Why on earth has it become entertainment to watch women treat each other with such disrespect and hate? Why not just walk away if you don't care for each other? Are these women so financially driven that they need this money so desperately? I think this is it for me and this series. This is not entertainment.
Tamra, Gretchen, and Heather are definitely BULLIES.......If someone were treating your kids the way you treat Alexis, I bet you'd change your tune. I would be careful if I were you ladies, karma is a B-t-h. Don't be surprised if your kids are next In line to be bullied. All I see is Vicky and Alexis trying to keep the peace and get along, while the 3 musketeers, continue with their mean girl ACT. Grow up. I'm sure the ratings won't drop due to you bullies, not being bullies. Tamra, Gretchen, and Heather. Lydia ughhh, no words, you seemed to be choosing a side without full knowledge of the history from last season.
Just tuning in this season and cannot diagnose except for many strikingly similar instances whose effects are near-exactly similar. Has it not occurred to any of you or the producers that Vicki exhibits 7 of the 8 signs of having been severely abusec as a very young , which went on for many years?
I think Tamra is a Bully and not a very nice Lady,if that's what you want to call her.And Heather thinks she above everyone,I don't think I would want to be friends with anyone of these Lady's they are not nice to one another.And Vickie is all messed up she needs to take a brake and not worry about finding a man for right now,And the man she calls boyfriends he useing her,she just doesn't see it,I fill sorry for her Daughter.
I would not say there was anything lady-like in the way Tamra showed Alexis the door. That statement just tries to diminish how aggressive that move of Tamra's was. As far as the "glazing over" comment is concerned, it was One of the Heathers showing how much better she is is.
I used to really like Gretchen but since shes become buddies with Tamra she seems to becoming pretty evil.
Is Tamra paid to be so mean and hateful? She mentioned on WWHL quite a few times that Andy pays her a lot of money to be on this show.
I think she's using the "Andy pays me a lot of money on this show" as an excuse for her bad behavior.
Oh yes, it could have been preventable if Vicky hadnt thanked Tamra for allowing Alexis to attend. That only gave Tamra the chance to say," oh yeah, why did you want to come here in the first place?" That's when the fights, yes fights began. I have to admit, it's been hard to go from watching RHOBH to RHOOC. When the BH girls have a party, it's a real party with a lot of people. Had me thinking, Tamra must not have that many friends. Gee, I wonder why? Even in the most dire of situations, Lisa Vanderpump would never kick anyone out of her party. Tamra needs to take somemore etiquette class's. The special wine glass's for her only two friends at her "party" was beyond classless. Yes, Tamra needs more etiquette class's.
socialbutterfly908 Yes, how dare Vicki thank Tamra. These gals need a script to find out what they are allowed to say around Tamra, Gretchen, and (to a lesser extent) Heather to prevent them from going BSC. LOL.
And you are right about the party favors, you either give to everyone or no one. You don't' single out 2 people as 'super special' especially when you only have a group of 8-10 women at a dinner. That right there is Jr. High mean girl, 'we are better than than you and are only allowing you sit at our cool table' behavior.
socialbutterfly908 To be honest I think Tamra would have brought it up even if Vicky hadn't made that comment. She had already been whining about the situation to Eddie and then to the girls before Vicky, Alexis, and Lydia showed up. Only a weak person blames another for their own mistakes. If she didn't want Alexis to come, she should have said no.
Also, bullying doesn't necessarily have to be a direct attack (as these ladies claim), body language and indirect nastiness (for instance: horrible notes, email, etc) can also be forms of bullying.
On Watch What Happens Live, Dr V. hit the nail on the head- they are bullies because they use the "group attack." Their behavior was appalling. Did anyone else catch Gretchen's obscene gestures while they were all sitting down on the sofas? I hope that they reflect on their behavior and realize that they are in the wrong.
Everyone makes mistakes and unfortunately these ladies get their mistakes aired on television, but I do believe people can change if they try. At least Vicki and Alexis are trying in their own ways. Alexis did say to each woman that she would talk to them one-on-one at a later time so that the party wouldn't be ruined. I also disagree with the popular belief that Alexis is the dummy of the group because all of those ladies have appeared "dumb" in their interviews (dropping big vocabulary words doesn't necessarily mean you are more intelligent). At this point, Heather, Gretchen, and Tamra seen to be going backwards instead of trying to change for the better.
Wow...had to take a shower after this episode. You know what I would love to see for any future dinners? How about Yolanda and Lisa strolling in and taking seats at the table? Wouldn't you LOVE to see what direction and tone the "conversation" would take?
Just picture it.
At the gym there were six people: White trash and an idiot all in one, Tamra White trash , an idiot in her own right and Tamra's idiot, Gretchen A smart and savvy yet wounded, Vicky A squeaky, sweet, doesn't know what's going on, Lydia A know it all, delusional, frozen face, Heather A beautiful, well intended woman, Alexis
So, when I started watching the Real Housewives (any and all franchises) - I thought the premise was that it was a group of ladies that were friends or friendly and their lives. Having a group of women that don't care for each other and the ensuing high drama and fighting isn't entertaining. I really began to not enjoy the RHOC last year, gave this year a shot, but am officially done. It also "seems" by way of the blogs or the reunion shows that there is a lot off camera affecting what's on camera and it leaves the viewers at a disadvantage. I wish you ladies the best, but I'm out.
KathyFr I am so with you. One by one they jump the shark until the women they have on these shows are too toxic to watch. I watched this episode to give the show a last chance.
Maybe other viewers like the nastiness. If so, they aren't commenting as such on this and other blogs. It seems like they lose viewers on the HW shows when it gets too toxic but they keep doing it so they must think it is working for them.
f you are going to get rid of anyone - oust Vicki and Alexis - they are the hypocrits - they claim to be great Christians but don't live the life. Have we ever seen them do anything for anybody - they are both - just self serving.
leenelvis I was stunned watching Lydia (the Christian on steroids) praying to Christ over cocktails. Christians thank Christ for the food he has provided. They don't thank Christ for their hot husbands over cocktails. Ive never seen that before in my life.
leenelvis I so agree with you!!! Vicky was a bitch and mean to the other girls for most of the season and now that she is getting a taste of her own medicine, she tries to play the victim. she's very annoying, Alexis just wants attention.
Bravo...... How about finding a extraordinarily rich, African American, Orange County, fabulous Housewife, and let us see if this wouldn't be a storyline to shift the show? Lets see Tamera, Gretchen, Heather cut up against her.........uuh not! If that had been me that Tamera attempted to shift in a chair, I gua-ran-tee, things would have gone altogether different. Sometimes you just have to stand up to stop the madness...pun intended!
Kai123 I have to say, the RHOA have their fair share of fights. But none are truly mean to one another. With the exception of the she devil Kenya. Before her, the ladies seemed to get along ok. They'd let it out, then be done with it. I like that.
really why do you need to bring race into this.....hell just give Heather a fan to snap everytime someone looks at her, let Alexis get up an twirl while saying how fab she is, Vicki may not be able to sing but she can tell the fans over and over how hard she works to make herself rich, Tamera can be Nene, Tardy gir. and the lawyerl all rolled into one,
Kai123We already get enough of that with Married to Medicine and RH oAlt. I'm completely fed up with catty bitchiness and ghetto arguments, I thought the purpose of this show was to allow people to peek in on the lives of wealthy indulged housewives. This is not typical country club behavior
Editor, isn't anyone besides me tired of watching women tear into each other like wild dogs? That's why Honey Boo Boo is such a success--they genuinely love each other and are kind to each other. My beloved real housewives are becoming increasingly vile and unwatchable.
I think if they got rid of Tamara, Heather and Gretchen would behave differently. For some reason when people hang out with Tamra they become extremely petty and mean. I am very disappointed by the way Gretchen has changed since she has become friends with Tamra.
Housewives who are overly mean, or dishonest, or mentally ill or addicts, they are not entertaining. They are just uncomfortable to watch.
Dump Tamra and Gretchen. That should scare Heather straight. She is amusingly awful – so she should stay. Keep Vicki, and add Briana as an official housewife. Lydia seems good, and Alexis is still growing as a cast member. Tamra and Gretchen must go!
Please let Tamra, Gretchen and Heather go. It is not entertainment, it is not controversial, Over it! From an actual RHOC these three bring shame to this county! Go back to your roots Bravo.
There WAS a group of us that got together to watch this show, but after the last episode we are DONE. If you think this is entertainment Bravo, you are as delusional as Tamra. Time for a new cast or you just lost viewers. I'm done with this franchise!
Maybe all of us should start a campaign..... '' Get Rid Of The Three Muskateers '' before next season starts to film..... replace them Bravo or you may lose viewership. We could call it the GROTTM movement.......campaign starts NOW.
C... really everyone - those three are the only ones that are honest enough to stand up for what they believe in. The two other ladies ie Alexis and Vicki both dished it out against the other three ladies - it was just their turn to get back what they dished out....they both knew what they were walking into one just served the other up to the badest wolf there.
Does Bravo thinks this is what all women want..... hateful towards each other. that is not fun. A little argument once in a while is fine and funny but this is out of hand. The three muskateers have proven who they are - again - mean girls. I'm talking Gretchen, Tamra and Heather. This behavior makes you ugly in other women's eyes....
all the housewives - Alanta, New York, Beverly Hills and New Jersey - they ALL dish out what we saw on this episode......
Atlanta was better this year (except for the addition of Kenya). She brought the delusion and aggression. Beverly Hills was at least entertaining and fun plus no one screamed or hit. New York got screechy and if it weren't for Carole, I didn't watch. Completely stopped watching New Jersey. Not sure I'll continue with the OC.
Oh my god! You are hilarious! Best recap EVER!! Tamra has a black belt in bullying and needs to go. With her in the mix there will never be any hope for a show I actually enjoy watching. I don't watch OC anymore because frankly it stresses me out too much! But I still have your recaps which are much more tolerable!
You should have not casted Tamra. She adds nothing but nastiness. Will not be watching the show this season. Actually will not be watching until she is long gone. Viewers watch to be entertained not to feel angry and outraged over their behavior. In Tamra's words "DONE"
I love Tamra, Gretchen, and Heather. Thy are strong women who are assertive and say what they mean and mean what they say. I do not think that either of them is hateful or a bully. They are not victims. They are adult women who have a voice and address situations. Alexis is pretentious, fake, and cannot stand anyone who disagrees with her. Tamra was right to throw her out. If she felt so bullied, she should never have come, after all, she was not invited by the host.
Of course Alexis will be back next year, if she is invited......she loves the chance at fame.
chicrhwatcher Tamra ran me off as a viewer a while ago. I thought I'd watch this episode and give the show another chance. I'm done
Tamra,s party was ruined by tamra alone...she started the drama and I'm sure he was planning to the whole time.
With all the bullying and negativity going on in the world bravo needs to lighten up the real housewives franchises. Tamra, Gretchen, and Heather are bullies whether they want to acknowledge it or not. Bravo please empower women by showing women working together not tearing each other apart. I think I am finished with RHOOC
These ladies are paid to be on a show together. Of course they eventually have to be together. I thought Alexis went there with good intentions. Walking in there must have been really scary. Alexis did try to stop the ugliness from the get-go, then all the hens jumped in.
I said it before....Tamra is a mean, vile woman.
Tamra is definitely a mean girl. But Vicki started it with her statements. Once again trying to be the center of attention. Props to Alexis for trying to diffuse the situation.
Well reading the comments, I have a truly different take than everyone.. I am a victim of workplace bullying and I can describe exactly how each person's has placed themselves into this scenario.. Vicki and Tamra were very close.. Both did not like Slade and made fun of Gretchen being with Slade - Tamra to the point of getting Gretchen so drunk and then having her son try to get it on with her in the bathroom.. Vicki sat back and watched. Some claim that Alexis bullied Vicki in SF, but she didn't. She and Vicki had a somewhat heated discussion, but the other women didn't jump in on Vicki and start shouting at her, talking her down, putting her down.. They just kept it for the cameras.. Now Gretchen claims that Alexis has it coming because she did it to Vicki. Gretchen wants to make sure the target stays off of her back, therefore she will do whatever Tamra wants.. Plain and simple. Gretchen made a very stupid statement about "if we are bullying her, why does she hang around us?" Well just like in the workplace, she doesn't have a choice - she has too. Vicki on the other hand has reflected on the past and is taking the heat, kind of like Yom Kuppir, atoning for her bad behavior in the past - now seeing it through the eyes of others.. Alexis is trying to work with the girls, but the minute she says one thing wrong, they jump and then she naturally feels attacked and as she tries to talk with one person, someone else starts yelling at her, so now she is trying to converse with a second person as well as finish a conversation with the first person, now third person - we will call her Heather, must feel relevant in the conversation, so third person blows over a look, Heather really doesn't have any ammunition.. So now Alexis is trying to communicate with all three on three different topics - and anyone would have difficulty doing that... The three in turn justify their behavior by blaming Alexis because she is the target - which I still have not quite gotten why she is the target, other than Tamra wants to be queen bee of the show, and control everyone, which will eventually cause a rift between her and Heather, because Heather is queen bee of OCD.. Now that being said - I take Xanax - that doesn't mean you can't drink.. You just don't take the Xanax if you are going to have a drink.. If Alexis wants to wear fake rings, so what - she lives in a nice house and because these ladies have never heard renting in a bad economy, wearing false jewelry to a foreign country - it is all "pretentious" to them.. Does she choose to keep things from the women?? Yes and so they think she is phony.. Who cares?? That is no reason to be attacking her, because not one of them are "real" as Tamra claims she needs to be.. Some people seem phoney but really aren't - but you have to take the time to get to know them, to find out that they aren't - they just come across that way... But that still is not a reason to bully them - Thank God for Dr. V last night confirming they are bullying, where Tamra then goes and argues with the Psychiatrist about whether she is bullying.. and Tamra is full of it with this suing thing.. She just used something else to turn the girls against Alexis.. From someone who has spent the last 6 years recovering from workplace bullying and looking forward to going back into the workplace, albeit slowly... Now Bravo, how are you going to handle this - are you going exploit for monetary gain, or use it as training tool to help others recognize the concept of how bullying truly works with adults, and find ways to help others deal with it??
Well hello...another person who see's this show as a learning experience for the human persona. You gave a honest and non-judgmental summary and explanation of the events as you saw it that night. I agree with the majority of what you have said with just a few exceptions.
In SF the ladies were all upset with Vicky because at the time none of them had any income other than from their spouse's. While there is nothing wrong with being a stay at home mother...in circles of wealth unless you are volunteering your time and clout you are nothing more than a maid. Very embarrassing...so as Vicky kept saying what was true, that none of them worked and she is building a multi-million dollar business as a reason to not sit around every night getting drunk and partying, these ladies are taking it as a put down. Vicky was totally unaware how this was affecting her status in the group...until....SF. The wrong place and time for the women to "mob" her. She was there for a serious issue. Her daughter may have had Cancer which Vicky felt was her fault because of her genes. Alexis, who was told in the beginning that Vicky was a tough nut to crack decided that she was not going to be pushed around by Vicky the way she has done with her only ally Gretchen. From that time on Gretchen, Alexis, and Tamra felt fortified in their new found solidarity. Lynn was an innocent bystander because she understood what Vicky meant. Vicky didn't need Don because they weren't intimate and could travel with "girls" to get that "loving" feeling she craved. Because she didn't need a man...she couldn't understand why any of the other women did. So she commented on that a lot. They also resented that...thus named her the "mean girl".
The women begin to decide that Vicky would not be able to hold her superiority over them so they all get businesses and even goes to Vicky to get advice on how she did it for validation that they are becoming independent.
Fast forward to the "diner"...You were basically spot on with that. The anger of these women on Alexis was deadly. Alexis has no clue as to why these women are upset with her. She knew Tamra's issues because let's face it Tamra told her over and over. But she had no clue that Gretchen and Heather would be so mean. Tamra plays the poor little me game with them. She is a coward. She blames Vicky for making her say yes when she the right thing to do was to say yes. They all work together. Tammy felt that the others would call her a hypocrite for all of the ugly things she has said about Vicky and Alexis so she tells them that it was Vicky who made her say yes. Had Gretchen not made all of the snide remarks with every sentence that came out of Vicky's and Alexis mouth the diner would have gone much better.
PrivateSpecialist Nice blog. I usually get bored with long blogs. This one is spot on and well written. Tamra has always been a bully. Tamra has to have a target at all times. It makes her feel better about herself. Ive seen her throw a drink on Geena, creating a monstrous scene at an elegant party. We've seen her pick on Gretchen since day one. Now, Alexis is her target. I think Tamra needs a taste of her own medicine. Maybe she'll understand how horrible it feels to be picked on. What she did to Gretchen her first season was deplorable. She should have been fired. She was vile. Why Gretchen was able to forgive and forget is beyond me. Maybe she's just relieved to be out of Tamra's target range.BRAVO, please put an end to it. Viewers have had enough of Tamra.We don't like her.
Interesting analogy. Since you have survived harrassment in the work place, I wonder what position BRAVO takes by allowing this kind of harrassment for one of their employees? do they have a policy to follow for stopping this? are they a party to it by their non-action to protect Alexisi? All I can think of is the term Hostile Work Environment.......