The end of Lizzie's dinner party gets even more dramatic.0
I do not believe Heather and Terry made that comment at all to Tamra. I think good ole trouble maker Tamra made it up to Shannon that loose flapping of her tongue. I really don't see Terry nor Heather saying this. Everyone knows what Tamra the troublemaker does to all the ladies. It's disturbing to see Heather not see through Tamra.
You reap what you sow, Tamra.
wonder if contractually these woman are obligated to attend these dinner parties. It's like a party game. The newest victim will be verbally brutalized by drunken Tamra and the multi-lingual Dubrow's (second language being the other untruth) . Why else would an even minimally intelligent person accept a dinner or party invitation? As the pre-chosen lamb to slaughter, you know you'll: never eat a morsel; spend a good deal of time in the bathroom; hear whispers at the table... and they're about you and your family or a broken confidence; be part of a heated argument with decibels so high they're appearing on airport radar; have the most atrocious accusations and insults thrown your way and for certain you will storm out shaking with anger. Why would you say yes and bring the Host a gift? Poor Lizzy. She'll learn. Her swimsuit line will do just fine, although she needs to amp up the product endorsement, but that will come with more exposure. How much do these gals make per episode? For this stuff to be out there forever and ever? Not enough!
Needing to call an ambulance is so uncalled for and over the top. Just plain nasty and gaslighting to make Shannon look bad. Heather needs to stop it, she makes herself look bad
Is anyone else having problems seeing comments on the cast blogs ~ is BRAVO not posting comments on blogs anymore? I cannot see them at all anymore and used to love reading reader blog comments.
I think it was so rude of Tamara and Heather to insinuate that Shannon was crazy and had a 'break' and needed an ambulance. Tamara created the entire incident and never takes any accountability for her horrible actions....done with Tamara.
Well. just saying' this is a show. But want to put out there what I am seeing. First off, talking about Shannon's drinking are not are was not in every episode Tamra and Vicki with her drinking also. Tamra, also telling her come on let's take a shot, let's take a shot.. at her Christmas party? Then too, Tamra had already told Vicki about the whole situation with her betraying Shannon's trust. Before Shannon and David ever went on the trip with Vicki and Brooks. So it was no surprise to Vicki when Shannon told her. Heather herself, talks down to everyone, even Terry, using her hand wag when Terry talks. So what is the difference her doing that and Vicki snoring on her. NONE !I' have never cared for Heather at all, Tamra at one very brief time in the beginning with Simon, but no more. Heather, herself made snide comments from the beginning about David and Shannon when going to her house to look at it.
Someone mentioned the ugly sweater party, and what Heather said that night was never addressed, and I am shocked no one mentioned it. Does anyone here remember when she is in the limo with Terry, and makes a saracastic remark about the big cross on the lawn~ referencing the person's religious decor for the holiday? I found that very offensive, and I am sure Heather would not appreicate someone making a mean-spiritied remark about her beliefs!
Heather needs to stop believing herself to be so great. She was on show that went nowhere in the nineties. and early 200s if I remember right and has had bit parts in other shows where her performance was a drop in the bucket. What has she done that is so bloody fabulous?
if Tamra was the sole person Shannon confided in then it is obvious ...of course she told Heather and Vicki too...if that were me I would have been livid ..she would have been dropped from my friend list...I wouldn't confront her ....she would be in the trash where she belongs......Heather will watch the films and she'll never trust Tamra either
Heather and Tamra are quilty of everything they accuse Shannon of doing. Hopefully they will get what's coming to them soon. Tamra has thrown other cast embers under the bus going all the way back to Jeanna. She gets away with it all and plays both sides with her fake tears and "I don't remember" excuses It's hard to understand how Heather does not se how toxic Tanra is. Mrs. Judge and Mrs Jury are quite toxic together, tag teaming their foes all the while pumping their inflated egos. When will they get theirs? . Team Shannon.
Okay, I've had a hard enough time watching this show since Heather joined the cast but this season is the worst. Of course Heather doesn't like Shannon. Here comes a woman that has as much if not more money than heather and Terry and I'm sure that drives them nuts. Heather is obviously jealous of her and it upsets me that no one seems to see or say it to her. Shannon did not holler at her the night of Shannon's party but she did call her out in her behavior and that is something none of these ladies past and present has had the nerve to do. I have totally lost respect for Tamra and how she causes trouble with everyone and can't wait till it comes back on her. You know what they say about karma..I was also alittle disappointed in Vicki. I understand her not wanting to get involved but she owed it to Shannon to tell her that Tamra also told her the comment about terry saying they were going to take Shannon and David down. She should have spoke up at the party. The Dubrows are all about money. It shows how materialistic they are. I'm sure it drives them crazy that Shannon has a basketball court in her house. Gee, what are they going to do about that? Maybe put an Olympic size pool in theirs? Heather and tamra belong together. They compliment each other so well. Both are backstabbing troublemaking women that have nothing better in life to but to try and make everyone else's life miserable. Well it worked on me. I'm miserable watching these two middle aged morons running around gossiping about women that make them insecure.
There is something very wrong with Shannon. She needs to stop using Heather as the " Scapegoat"!! She obviously has marital issues. Anyone can see she's trying to be the " Victim" She totally ruined Lizzie's Dinner Party. I love Heather and also Lizzie! Also why would Heather be jealous of Shannon? That's just ludicrous! Heather has a great life, beautiful children, a loving husband, a great career, and a soon to be spectacular home. Everyone needs to stop blaming Heather because Shannon is a few fries short of being a " Happy Meal!"
The only reason Heather said that was to deflect on her own misdeeds and try and brainwash the viewers that Shannon is unstable. Fast forward to Tamra at her home and how insane she acted when she found out her son was moving with his soon-to-be wife! Tamra is a liar, and Heather's "perceptions" are also lies, plain and simple! I cannot even stand listening to her so my MUTE button gets quite a workout! Hope Andy has enough courage this year to actually call out these two on their horrible behavior.
There is nothing wrong with Shannon, IMHO. I agree with Shannon that Heather puts a "spin" on the truth. What's more, Heather is "acting" 24/7, or at least when a camera is on her. I wish Shannon's husband, David, would show some support for her during these troubled times.
Here's a suggestion for the next party. Have an M.D. with blow dart skills in costume like the fire dancers, only stationed inside the house so they can dart/tranquilize any guest as he or she begins to 'act out'. When behaving as animals (or worse), expect to be treated accordingly. Free ranging wack jobs of the OC run amuk. Video available at BRAVO.
Enough is enough Ms. Heather! The comment about the ambulance was sickening to say the least. In case you forgot it IS what you say- NOT how you say it! It is so obvious that you have unresolved issues maybe from childhood-who knows. Stop hiding behind your money and start being real. You always have to be right. Humble yourself girl! Just apologize to Shannon for gossiping about her. Stop taking jabs at her to make yourself look good. Your behavior is not only transparent but is also childish. Grow up! Havent you heard the word "condescending" enough?
Lizzie was right on about Tamra. Oh, andTamra? You NEVER put your hands on someone when they are saying they want you to go away. Shannon is no innocent dove herself but T should NOT have done that. Tamras stirs the pot and Heather is a self righteous prick as is Terry.
Good Job LIzzie!! Keep up the observations and can't wait till you call Tamra out on her being "the most insecure person.." you've ever met. BTW, Terry calling David a penis is............
I vaguely remember someone saying they were going to win the ugly sweater contest and take the Beaders down by having the ugliest or best couple's sweaters. Could that have been Terry doing a little harmless trash talk before the contest? If so then it was a joke.
................I don't get it. Shannon has caught Tamra lying to her face at least twice now. Does she get mad and vent at Tamra?? NO. All Shannon's anger is directed [misdirected as far as I am concerned] at Heather. She should stop confiding in Tamra, and not be telling her all her business [because Tamra is a pot-stirring, megaphone mouth and liar]. Shannon is a certifiable nut job [run, David, run!!!] , and demonstrated it at poor LIzzie's dinner party. Wonder if any of the couples apologized for their rude, adolescent behavior, and for ruining the evening???
"Do we need to call an ambulance?" REALLY Heather?? Was that comment really necessary? How humiliating. She is such a narcissist (she AND Terry). I have to hand it to her: she is a very articulate speaker and VERY crafty with her words. For some reason she has always been really "bugged" by Shannon and I think she enjoys "pushing her buttons". I honestly thought that Heather was above this kind of behavior but this season her true colors are showing. She LOVES to justify her actions by saying that things are her "perception" therefore she cannot be WRONG. Well, it's MY perception that she is manipulating, narcissistic and condescending and I have had enough of her.
Shannon is a class act and doesn't ever scream except this time and I can't blame her. Tamra playing both sides for a storyline? It would be nice to see a nice dinner once in a while.
I guess the only housewife to blog is the only one with nothing to hide! What's up Tamra, Vicki and Heather...can't figure out how to spin it to win it?
When did Heather become such a jerk? I used to be a fan of hers but she treats Shannon with such disrespect. Poor Shannon! Really like David & Shannon together, they're so cute! Heather and Terry are becoming such disgusting people. It's hard to watch them.
@irisheyes185 Oh I do see them saying this...I can see how it would have weaved into the conversation....someone was comparing their homes and perhaps commented the Beadors perceived wealth and how it would show on tv, and the narcissist that Terry is made the loosely connected comment....it just does not surprise me
@joysnote ...too late for that.........
@Sydney20 Bravo reformatted the website a couple weeks ago. Blogs are now comment free/prohibited. Videos are posted which allow comments, many of which reference the blogs of persons related to the video. Very circular, very confusing to many. Just takes more time to root around for comments on what may have struck you from the episode. Hang in there!
It too , was Tamra and Vicki that was talking down on Heather to Shannon at the very beginning of the show.? Telling Shannon how condisending Heather was.
@BarbaraETD11 But of course. Everything Heather does and says is swept beneath the carpet or explained away.
@cassidy99 she is on the show to be seen and get acting roles....maybe she'll get lucky like Nene ..thats what she wants
Sorry,for the typos. It should have read that she was on shows (plural) that went nowhere in the nineties and early 2000s.
@lilhexy I totally agree with your comments. Tamara, Heather, & Terry are idiots. I really like Shannon & Lizzie.
@lilhexy I have to disagree. I think Heather is getting lumped in with Tamra and unfairly so. Tamra is clearly out to start trouble, manipulate situations, and cause problems. She's bored and has nothing else to do. But I don't think Heather dislikes Shannon due to money...the Dubrow's have PLENTY of their own. I've seen nothing to suggest that. So Heather likes nice things and likes to spend money and buy the best of the best...big deal. They have it, they earned it, and they have every right to do what they want with it. If Heather's biggest crime is being snobby, I don't see that as a crime. The whole show is about spoiled, rich people in the OC. They ALL act like that! Heather has owned up to her wrongs, but Shannon does not want to accept her explanations. Vicki sees herself in Shannon and has taken her under her wing for that reason alone....and because Shannon is a new face who has no preconceived notions about Brooks, which is exactly what Vicki wants. Vicki is forgetting that Heather, her friend of several years, was quite good to her regarding Brooks. Vicki is tossing Heather aside for the "fun bus" new girl who she sees as an extension of herself. Not very nice at all. Tamra is stirring the pot...again, not nice at all. And Heather has reacted to Shannon constantly in her face, firing off a list of complaints, telling Heather what she can and cannot say/think, and when Heather doesn't take it lying down, SHE is the bad guy who must apologize? I don't get it.
@BarbaraETD11 "Brainwash" the viewers that Shannon is unstable? Really? Do you suppose Shannon's wild, erratic behavior, laced with meteoric meltdowns, paranoid assertions ("You'll all see the truth!!") and screaming lunacy have NOTHING at all to do with our perception? Wow...not only does Heather MAKE Shannon behave this way, she also MAKES me, as a viewer, think Shannon is nuts!! What a powerful woman that Heather Dubrow is!
@ScienceMom I really like Lizzie. She's not afraid to voice her opinion & she seems fair minded. Unlike Tamara, Heather & Terry (Mr. Asteroid).
@2326lgwdwc No matter if it were a joke. I am sure Tamra did not convey it to Shannon in that manner.
No Tamara told Shannon that several times and Vicki said Tamara did the same. Heather is crazy Tamara wants everyone to think Shannon is crazy and will not own that she tells Shannon that lie. Tamara stirs the pot by telling lies but interestingly enough when confronted with the said lie Tamara always denies it and then the insanity insues
2326lgwdwc ~ If that was said, it could be where that came from. At any rate though, apparently Tamra twisted it around and made it sound more menacing (because hey, that's what she does, stir the pot). Victoria said Tamra told her the same thing so if that's where the statement came from, Tamra sure did turn it into something vicious! That should make Terry and Heather upset too, providing Heather opens her eyes to it, she still thinks Tamra never lies! Someone really needs to call her out on it!
@MissPuff Heather's attitude is sickening!
Heather said a couple times in the beginning that she was frustrated that she was the one who introduced Shannon to the group yet Vicki and Tamra just clicked with her and became best buds. At the same time Vicki and Tamra were irritated with Heather's behavior and were calling her out on it, so the combo didn't sit well. Instead of confronting Vicki and Tamra about it right then, she took it out on Shannon and then it just spiraled.
@MissPuff Totally agree. Heather doesn't even realize Tamra was the one shrieking.
@ocviewer I was thinking the same thing. The only bloggers thus far are the only ones with nothing to hide. Have you seen Tamra's Facebook?? She's practically laughing to the bank...the show pays her bills, and she doesn't care who she hurts in the process. She's proud.
ocviewer ~ Unfortunately some of them don't need to spin it, they have enough viewers doing it for them!
Vicki finally added hers - disappointing how she's cool with staying out of things when she knows Tamra lied. From her interview she seems afraid that Tamra will mess with Brooks if Vicki outs her - not very brave or honest.
@jennifer_fl77 cute. david is miserable, unhappy... that's not cute. that's very very sad.
@jennifer_fl77 I so agree. I honestly don't know how Heather can think the way she'd behaving is right or normal. Viewers saw all of this unfold....Heather fabricated the truth about Shannon to make her look bad. Is so sad & obvious.
Looks like the green-eyed monster turned Heather into one! She was so jealous when Shannon showed everyone her house. Heather and Terry just have to have the biggest and best - even going so far as to build at the very top of the hill and adding a parking lot that nobody else has.
@queenann100 @BarbaraETD11 It's often easier to place blame on external forces and/or people than own any shred of personal accountability. Ideally people grow out of that childish tendency as they mature. 'Right fighting' by adults is symptomatic of immaturity as well. The ability to acknowledge any merit to both sides of any issue clearly isn't everyone's long suit. Not sure they're even familiar with all the cards available in the deck. Breathe!
@Bun Thank you Bun. You just summed it up at the true reason why Shannon is getting the treatment she's gotten from Heather. Shannon is a likeable women, and Heather couldn't stand it.
Bun ~ I totally agree! And so many people want say that Shannon talks about Heather behind her back every chance she gets but Heather does the same thing to Shannon! She's constantly telling everyone that she thinks Shannon is turning Victoria and Tamra against her but she (Heather) is doing a good enough job of that herself! Tamra and Victoria have talked about the way Heather talks down to them numerous times! Heck they all talk about each other behind each others backs but Heather gets a pass and poor Shannon gets condemned for it!
@nexxie I agree. Heather is use to being the "top dog" so to speak. SHe is use to having the BIGGEST house, the most money, etc.It seems very important for her to be seen as the BEST and for everyone to worship her. I think when she met Shannon, she felt threatened because now she wasn't the one at the top anymore. She and Terry seem to get off on being "better than" other people and it's really an ugly quality. Say what you want about Shannon but I don't think that she is a narcissist like Heather.
@MissPuff @nexxie Sorry MissPuff, differing opinion. I couldn't 'call out' one specifically when defining 'narcissist tendencies" (with exception of Lizzie). As I believe the MAJORITY of the women of O.C. possibly encompass that characteristic. Or (at the very least) are the most SELF-ABSORBED women I would never hope to engage with, let alone, find friendship with.