The ladies get their freak on – before trying to mend fences with Shannon Beador.

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mamabee99
mamabee99

Lizzie is my favorite and I feel sorry for her birthday party. I think we've all been there, in real life, without the enormous cost of a limo van! I refused to watch this real housewives franchise until last season, so I have no former loyalties. Now that I am watching, I see I didn't miss anything. Tamra creates drama and the others fight through her muck, otherwise it's all boring.

Coancara
Coancara

Really Shannon , you might want to rethink you view of Michigan, I know plenty of woman in Michigan that look amazing for their age. If its a challenge count me in! Good job on insulting every women in Michigan .

pamash1990
pamash1990

I understand why Heather was so upset about the xmas party fiasco and why she did not have much compassion for Shannon. She was invited to Shannon's party as one of her guests and she was so very quick to attack Heather in front of all the other women. Tamra and Shannon both accused Heather of staying something she never said like for Tamra to "pick a side", which is a bunch of BS. If that really bothered Shannon she should have pulled Heather aside and talked to her about it one on one instead of attacking her. Shannon also had no business so aggressively jumping into Heather and Tamra's conversation regarding good day la. Then Shannon shows up to Heather's house acting like nothing ever happened between them. Shannon should have IMMEDIATELY apologized when she came to Heather's house then maybe Heather would have been more receptive and sympathetic toward Shannon. Heather did NOT kick Shannon out either Shannon was becoming more and more aggressive I would have asked her to leave too especially if my kids are in the house! Terry and Heather had every right to be mad about the "take the Beadors down" comment because they were once again being accused of saying something they did not say nor would they ever say something like that! Shannon is psychotic!!!!!!!!!!!! Lizzie and Heather rock!!!!!!

bluebell
bluebell

Can't wait for the next show. Can't believe Heather is saying "our salvation." Really!

joysnote
joysnote

I like Lizzie,  I am sure at least Vickie and Heather and Danielle show up for her party.     Heather needs to make a real apology to Shannon for throwing her out of her house, that was much ruder than anything Shannon said to Heather at her Christmas party.  I think Shannon and Heather could get along fine without Tamra's meddling.  I hope Tamra's blog is true and she starts focusing on her family instead of stirring up trouble with the other women.  I for one would rather watch the show and see the house, clothes, vacations  and so on and skip some of the mean girl stuff.    If someone is being nasty to someone else, I do like to see them get their comeupence but to just target someone like Shannon for no reason and try to pit her against Heather like Tamra did is not fun to watch.  

randrew
randrew

Poor Lizzie... maybe someone will show up. I hope so for her sake, because they all hijacked her dinner party. So rude!

bluebell
bluebell

Wow, can't believe no one showed up for Lizzie's birthday. I like Lizzie & she seems to be fair minded. Tamara caused more of a scene at Lizzie's dinner party by trying to stop Shannon & Tamara was screaming. Heather & Terry are just disgusting. I thought they were suppose to be prim & proper. I think they are jealous of Shannon & David.

Fayeth
Fayeth

Heather ~ Next week's episode should be interesting. I'm having trouble believing that you're sincere about making things right with Shannon. In your blog you say you did owe her an apology but then it's never really clear to me what you think you owe her an apology for because you dance around it and make excuses.   Also, I wanted to point out that i

n your blog you say, “I ran into Shannon at the hairdresser a couple of hours before the party and we made polite conversation. I was sort of hoping we could have a nice time at Lizzie's party…”   I could be wrong (and I’m sure the few supporters you have will disagree with me) but when everyone was starting to be seated at the party you seemed all concerned about the seating arrangements and commented that you were pleased with it.   I personally got the distinct impression that what you were insinuating was that you were pleased that you were at one end of the table and Shannon was at the opposite end.

nexxie
nexxie

@mamabee99 Vicki sees Tamra for who she is but refuses to speak the truth. Heather is still delusional about Tamra. "Dumb" Lizzie sees Tamra and isn't afraid of her - good on Lizzie!

kathy.gleason2
kathy.gleason2

Having lived In Southern Ca for several years & in the Midwest most of my life, i disagree Shannon ! I think most So Cal gals look older than us Midwesterners. You know the sun exposure & over doing the Botox & such. Look at my pic & i'd guarantee you would guess me for at least 10 years younger. You must not get out much

mrsdonut
mrsdonut

As a Michigander, I second that, Coancara. Shannon and I are close in age, and I am also a SAHM, like her, so count me in, too! ;-)

Fayeth
Fayeth

pamash1990 ~

Heather admitted that she said, "Pick a lane" as much as I disllike Tamra, and as much as I know she likes to twist things around and stir the pot, I can see how she could have misconstrued the meaning behind that and let's be honest, it's not always easy to remember something someone said EXACTLY the way they said it.  I think Heather set herself up for that one because what she admits to actually saying could very well be taken to mean "pick a side" (although I don't recall what she claims she meant by it). I can also see how that would have upset Shannon and Shannon said that she was going to have a talk with Heather because of their agreement to come to one another when there's an issue but then I think the more Heather went on and on she just had to say something and "raised her voice" and said something.(even Heather admitted on WWHL that she now realizes it wasn't yelling).   Shannon hasn't been able to live that down but I think it was all instigated by Tamra and she hasn't been held accountable at all!

Brenda.Maria
Brenda.Maria

@pamash1990 It's funny because Shannon is one that does not like to be accused of something she didn't say, but she does it to Heather all the time.  I don't care for Shannon.  She tries to ALWAYS be the victim.

Fayeth
Fayeth

bluebell ~ Agree!  Sounded a little pompous to me! Then when they didn't know how to pronounce Bali and Heather told Shannon that even if she did know how she wouldn't tell her because she'd yell at her!   Really?   They came there to try to patch things up and start fresh and she has to throw that in!   Give it a rest!   From the second Shannon walked in, not even knowing what she was walking in to, she was smiling and making eye contact with Heather and Tamra and being extremely cordial considering what they've put her through and then that comes out of Heather's mouth.   So unnecessary!

nexxie
nexxie

My thoughts exactly - looks like this might be popcorn-worthy!

mamabee99
mamabee99

Heather asked Shannon to leave after a long unproductive conversation because Shannon was drunk and making a lot of noise that was being heard by Heather's kids in the next room. I would have done the same thing, asked her to leave. Not to mention Shannon was drunk and never apologized to Heather for how rude she was to her the last time they saw each other. Remember, a long time passed between when Shannon showed up uninvited and when Heather asked her to leave. Shannon just called it getting kicked out because she was drunk, and it felt that way to her. Heather has too much pride. However, in this case, Heather was right to tell Shannon to go. Her kids were hearing that drunk crazy talk and Heather had to think about her kids.

mamabee99
mamabee99

I can't believe Vicki showed up. She's so rude, yet she is the one that showed up then made fun of Lizzie before getting on the bus. I don't get it, why do people like Vicki? She adds nothing to this show, I guess she is just resting on her laurels and cashing the checks from Bravo.

KMCoffey
KMCoffey

I agree Tamara caused the problem with her big mouth and with trying to restrain Shannon she made the situation worse. Shannon did not need to be restrained she needed to leave like she was trying to. Then for Tamara and Heather to say SHANNON needs an ambulance is just crazy. More perception management lets make Shannon look like she nuts. I don't like it at all.

CrazyKoolaid
CrazyKoolaid

@Fayeth   Honestly, if in the SAME predicament....You would be all warm&fuzzy?   Have no qualms?  Relaxed?  Acceptance to be seated next to a woman you have issues with?   Fayeth, if you can respond yes, without hesitation w/no reservation....I commend you!    Respectful civility is fine, we all participate.  But spending (hours) at a dinner table having to converse, pretending enjoyment that clearly is not, is quite different.  Dare say, Shannon wouldn't.  Nor would the supposed "few Heather supporters".  Again dare say, if honesty be told (without bias) even those disliking Heather would agree that situation would be displeasing, uncomfortable and outrageously inappropriate given the circumstance.  Sincerity is acknowledging a 'thankfulness to not engage in what could/would be disastrous'.  

KMCoffey
KMCoffey

I meant a agree with Fayeth

queenann100
queenann100

@Fayeth Wow, this woman can't do ANYTHING right, can she?  She's apologizing to Shannon even when she doesn't really know why (nor do I think she owes her one, frankly) and yet she's doing it anyway.  Not good enough!  She mentions she liked the shell place cards at Lizzie's table and liked the seating, and she's in the wrong for not wanting to sit by Shannon!  For crying out loud!  I wouldn't want to sit by that nutjob either!  Seriously, people....you hate on the woman because she is "wrong and mean and doesn't apologize" and she is willing to do that and work it out and she's STILL being questioned!  Talk about damned if you do and damned if you don't! 

sandi2
sandi2

@mamabee99 agree - and just after I thought maybe Vickie was turning a new leaf, and then ZAP! the new leaf fell off before it grew.

Brenda.Maria
Brenda.Maria

@mamabee99 That was completely uncalled for by Vicki.  Grow up!  When has Lizzie proven to be dumb?  As always, VIcki is always threatened by a woman who is beautiful and smart.  I can't understand why when Vicki is pretty in her own way.

Fayeth
Fayeth

CrazyKoolaid ~ After reading your comment several times (I was having trouble following it) guess what…I agree.But while you were spending all that time crafting your response you lost sight of what I was saying.I wasn’t saying she should sit next to Shannon, the whole point of my comment was that Heather wants us to think she was hoping things would go better between them after making light conversation at the hairdresser a couple hours earlier then as they’re all approaching the table she’s asking if there is assigned seating and seems pleased to not be sitting next to Shannon!Shannon was right there, what if she would have heard the comment, would she have felt like Heather was hoping for things to get better? That was not a classy thing to do and Heather always wants us to believe she’s classy!It’s one thing to think, “I hope I’m not seated near so-and-so!” and something totally different to verbalize it out loud for everyone to (potentially) hear!I couldn’t care less if they sit next to each other, just be classy about it!

Tracirk68
Tracirk68

@queenann100 @Fayeth Heather doesn't need to apologize???  How about for blaming Shannon for Vikki asking her to move down a chair so that she could continue her conversation with Shannon.  Not once did Heather blame Vikki, then she proceeded to lie to everyone and say that Shannon had her move then claimed that Shannon "screamed" at her. 

Or how about when Heather made a HUGE deal that Shannon was late for her pretentious "look how rich we are" ground breaking party, yet Shannon and Vikki showed up together, yet Heather wasn't at all mad at Vikki, again it was all Shannon's fault.  Tamra's friend Danielle was late for that too but Heather didn't scold anyone but Shannon. 

Heather has a fit about Lizzie mentioning her birthday at Heather's party but sees absolutely nothing wrong with her own husband hollering down the table at Lizzie's party wanting to know if Shannon thought they were out to get them.  Heather has told both Tamra and Shannon that she thought they called her wanting to apologize to her yet has never once thought she has ever owed anyone an apology, if she does apologize it is with so many disclaimers expressing why she shouldn't apologize that she ends up voiding her own lame attempt at an apology. 

Heather and Tamra come up with these idiotic stories to cover for themselves, it is absolutely laughable.  Heather tries to come off as intelligent yet utters the words "Tamra doesn't lie" making herself look like, perhaps, the most idiotic woman on the show, right along side Gretchen as dumbest housewife ever.  The women I can't stand are the ones who act one way on camera then think the audience is so stupid they can say the complete opposite of what happened and we will believe them because they are so truthful.  So far the only truthful people I have seen this season are Lizzie and Shannon.  Vikki has not lied but she has withheld information that could have proved that Shannon was not the problem, so she contributed to one of Tamra's numerous lies. 

Fayeth
Fayeth

queenann100 ~ Even Heather is admitting that she owes Shannon an apology! And I just saw the episode again about Lizzie's party and Heather asked if there was assigned seating as they were coming down the stairs to the table before she even had a chance to see the placeholders.Then, as soon as she saw where her seat was in relation to the others she said, “Oh good, I like my seat.”It wasn’t until later that she commented on the placeholders.

Ring777
Ring777

Heather was not an innocent party she owes Shannon an apology as much as Shannon owed her one for the Christmas party. The difference is Shannon HAS apologized twice while Heather is still trying to take her "who me?" act on the road EVEN WHILE APOLOGIZING SHE STILL REFUSES TO OWN HER PART! That is why she can't catch a break from us viewers. To put it plainly, Heather is a holier-than-thou pain in our behinds and we can't wait to see her get her come-uppance.

Fayeth
Fayeth

queenann100 ~ Don't be so hard on Heather!  I'm sure there's something she can do right!

Fayeth
Fayeth

queenann100 ~ Really?Even Heather admits she owes Shannon an apology, she just not very clear about what that would be for.I think she owes her a number of apologies so I can’t tell which one she’s acknowledging but if she thinks she does, and she’s not one to apologize easily, I’m not sure why you don’t think so.As for my comment about the seating at Lizzie’s party, I clearly stated that I could be wrong about that but that was my impression, (you know…like “perception”), my perception hasn’t changed, sorry!

CrazyKoolaid
CrazyKoolaid

@Fayeth     All Good Fayeth!   Don't believe I misinterpreted or lost sight of your thought.  Your - "I am sure Heather does something right" clarifies for me the true intent (again).  Don't feel what Heather said during dinner or 'later' re: seating was lacking class. Nor would I, had Shannon said it.  queenann100's viewpoint (more concise than myself) is most beneficial..."damned if you do, damned if you don't".  Hope this time around, the "crafting" works better for you.  Agree to Disagree.  

Fayeth
Fayeth

Tracirk68 ~ Hey, I'm with you 100% !!!

queenann100
queenann100

@Tracirk68 @queenann100 @Fayeth I've been through this a million times, I'm not changing my view.  No, I don't think Heather needs to apologize to Shannon.  She has already apologized for a few of the things you mentioned here, and some of these complaints seem to be more your personal view of Heather than anything else.  There's another side to each of these events, and from that side, no constant apologies are necessary.  I do not believe Shannon has been any more "truthful" than anyone else.  Shannon embellished a few stories of her own.  Lizzie has called it like she sees it and not done the constant "behind the back" thing, which is refreshing.  I fail to see why people believe the cast members they find "pretentious" or "snobbish" have to do all the apologizing, no matter what.  Those they do like don't have to do a thing or own their behavior at all.  And before you ask, no, I don't care for Shannon based entirely on the way she has handled herself (or inability to do so) all season, but I don't think she owes any apologies either.  She did what she did and said what she said...that's her.  If she were in my circle, I'd simply avoid her because I don't like her behavior, but I don't think she owes 100 apologies for it. 

queenann100
queenann100

@Ring777

Thank you for at least saying why the viewers who want to hang Heather by her toenails want to do so.  At least somebody finally answered that!  Though many think Heather "owes" Shannon some type of apology, and Heather herself seems to feel like maybe she should (though I don't think she even knows why), I stand by my own thought that she does not really owe Shannon an apology for anything.  So there's clearly 2 camps here...those who won't give Heather a break until she apologizes, and those who think she's dealing with someone who will never be happy no matter what, and that she really does not own an explanation/apology to that person.  BUT, I stand by my original assertion....if Heather is saying she wants to mend fences and make peace, then why still the constant scrutiny?  Whether or not she wanted to sit by Shannon, or there is some sort of perceived malice because she maybe didn't care to butt heads with someone she doesn't get along with during dinner, is more silly nitpicking than anything, in my opinion.  If she is doing what some viewers seem to want her to do, why still so critical of her actions?  Even the words she chooses to use are picked apart! It sure seems she can't win!

Fayeth
Fayeth

CrazyKoolaid ~ Just had to let you know I got a real laugh over your commen! There's a certain person who insisted a couple weeks ago that I said something I didn't say.   Even after I pointed out that she was wrong she still insisted.   The reason is because she was reading things into what I said and twisting it around, so when she commented that Heather can't do anything right (but what she meant was just the opposite), I thought I'd make my comment that I'm sure she does something right just to respond to her comment the same way she had responded to mine.   That is the ONLY reason I said that, the absolute ONLY reason and you took it and ran with it!   Sooooo funny!

Fayeth
Fayeth

CrazyKoolaid ~ I could be wrong but I believe I know what I meant better than anyone else but you have a right to make your assumptions just the same. A lot of that goes on around here.