When Tamra Barney and Lizzie Rovsek tell different versions of the same story, Shannon Beador picks Lizzie’s side.

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pfrice
pfrice

I used to like Lizzie... but she is toxic.  I don't necessarily like Tamara.  But.... I like her more than Lizzie.  Shannon you are a little crazy!

Lizzie3
Lizzie3

Yes I cannot stand Tamra and finally someone is gonna call her out on it -honestly she is very insecure and she should be worried she's what 50 and Lizzie's in her 30s fresh and vibrant Tamar loves to stir the pot and never owns what she does btw did anyone else notice her old lady legs on last weeks episode-?

KMCoffey
KMCoffey

I am soooooo sick of Tamara. She draws these women in sucks information out of them and then uses it to ridicule them. CHARACTER assisnation. She did it to Gretchen getting all involved with Slades financial issues ( I do not like Slade) she did it with Vicki and Brooks now she is doing it with Shannon and her husband while trying to twist and turn something Lizzie said at a game of Marry-Shag-Kill.

terry244
terry244

I have to start by saying I really miss reading all the comments on the housewife blogs!! Please bravo bring them back..... In my opinion I think Lizzie is a total trouble maker. She needs to stop talking behind everyones back and needs to grow up. She loves the drama. Lizzie is trying to turn everyone against Tamara. I am in no means saying Tamara is a saint but Lizzie loves to get the drama going. Heather is just god awful I am really tired of her thinking she is so high and mighty and above everyone else I can barely watch her anymore. Terry deserves better hes such a sweet guy.I feel bad for Shannon she seems to be in a very bad place with her marriage. These girls need to back off and worry about themselfs.And Lizzie please tell your girlfriend she is not a housewife and to stay home while you are taping one of you is bad enuff I really dont care to hear her two cents. Shes just using you for the fame.

Barbarajean
Barbarajean

How did Shannon become top star on RHOC Lizzie is such a troublemaker.

Fayeth
Fayeth

Was Tamra's mouth moving? OK, I believe Lizzie.

Hadleyogram
Hadleyogram

Hi everyone!  I am so glad Bravo has given us the ability to comment again, if only on the videos for now!  Before, I would basically just skim through the cast blogs and then get right to the really enjoyable part... all of our comments!  I truly love to be able to share our thoughts on these women/shows! I was actually not planning on watching this season because I really didn't care for any of the remaining women.  But, Lizzie brought some interest to the group, I enjoy that she is very smart and beautiful and that she isn't afraid to speak up. I have enjoyed watching her figure Tamra out and also, I think it's fun, and mean of me I guess, to see how easily she can get Tamra to unravel!  Tamra not being on the show anymore would actually compel me to watch more seasons to come! I personally can't wait for Beverly Hills, very excited about that show!

LindsayG423
LindsayG423

I really like Lizzie, I think she's great.  But girl, give it a rest about your birthday party!  Want to know the last time I had a birthday party?  When I was 13, at the skating rink.  My very best friend didn't show up, and I had hurt feelings, BUT, I decided it was her loss and let it go and had fun with my other friends.  If I can do that at 13, you can do it as an adult.  It sucks that Tamra didn't let you know until after your party had started, but you're not going to ever get an apology from her, so now it's time to let it go.  Honestly, I would've been more annoyed at Vicki's dumb and dumber comment.  If I was having a party, I would only want people there who truly want to be there, not people who think I'm dumb.  I don't get why you let her off easy.  I would've said something the second she boarded that party bus.  

JoyintheMouse
JoyintheMouse

I believe Lizzie.  Tamra lies and twists everything just like Shannon said and not sure if Heather is doing it too or just a pawn of Tamra.

Fayeth
Fayeth

Go Lizzie, go Lizzie, go Lizzie! Next week's episode should be very interesting!   I'm glad you realize how being treated that way can drive someone to the breaking point.   So many people want to think Shannon is crazy but I've always liked her (sure she has her faults, don't we all???) but she's new to all this and there are a couple ladies (to be polite) who have gone at her full force so I'm glad someone is understanding where she's coming from.   Especially someone who isn't afraid to speak up...there have been several times when Victoria could have and SHOULD have stood up for Shannon but was too afraid to...go Lizzie!

queenann100
queenann100

Hmmm...I'm on the fence about this one.  I think Tamra is a troublemaker and I generally believe about 2% of what comes out of her mouth (if that), but this whole situation seems a little off to me.  For example, Lizzie went off on what appeared to be a drunken tangent towards her husband that night....doing this sing-songy, whiney, "My husband better give me a better birthday next year" rambling in the limo, then saying very derogatory things to him, seemingly unprovoked.  Combine that with the fact that she has NO memory of text messages that Tamra actually has proof of, and it leads me to believe Lizzie had plenty of drinks on her birthday and may not remember events correctly.  Should Tamra have called her ahead of time to cancel?  Yes.  Did Tamra still think she could go up until zero hour?  Maybe.  Did she want to go hang with Lizzie anyway?  Probably not.  But bottom line here is that Lizzie wanted the courtesy of a response, she didn't get one, and Tamra could just say, "Sorry, I didn't handle that correctly" and be done with it.  What I don't like is that Lizzie seems utterly obsessed with the idea that the world must stop for her on her birthday (relax, Lizzie, you'll have another one next year!), and for some reason the birthday is getting melded in with some sort of bizarre "Your husband wants to sleep with me" taunting from Heather's Valentine's Day party.  Did Lizzie drink too much there and say something inappropriate?  Did Tamra spin the story (as she tends to do) in order to stir up drama towards Lizzie?  With the way this all played out, I really have no idea at this point! 

randrew
randrew

I totally believe Lizzie!   I'm wondering if Tamra ever looks in the mirror... and if she does... what does she see?? I bet it's not what we all see. Otherwise she would've changed her ways a long time ago.  That old gal... AND Vicki need to go. Vicki acts like a 9 year old. I don't see her being the voice of reason. She just doesn't want Tamra mad at her.

suprafreshkid
suprafreshkid

 Tamra calling someone else foul and nasty is ironic 

lovesluv2
lovesluv2

@pfrice You said it PF.  Most of what they are saying is on camera. If you listen to the way Shannon and Lizzie twist things. "Heather said, "Get out." No, she said in a soft voice, "Please leave." Tamra was so nice to the new ladies, even being especially caring with Shannon. She even tried to help soften things between Shannon and Heather by telling Heather that Shannon was in a bad way.  Perhaps she shouldn't have told her but she didn't do it out of spite or to be cruel. Lizzie, Vicki, Shannon and even bobble head Danielle tell bold faced lies. When fake Vicki plays coy and says she "feels sorry for Tamra."  BS. Shannon doesn't waste a second telling her "every time you feel that way, remember how Tamra talked to Briana and messed up your relationship." Lizzie, Vicki and Shannon now have an agenda against Tamra.  Shannon really wants to take Heather down.They have nothing nice or understanding to say.  Most negative bunch I've seen. Of course, we have all been informed (on camera) that Shannon is now going to bed and waking up with David. "It's good" she says (finding that now, after 16 years of marriage???!!!) No wonder they have problems!  Look, we all get to hear about it, straight from the horses mouth.  That is why it is certainly not a secret, now is it?  Lizzie is now having "a few more moments" of Christian bending her over the counter. She seems to really dislike her husband and has demeaned him as a man.  She says ON CAMERA and in front of others, that he needs to do that more and let's not forget "you need to get a b_ner at once a week!!" She was drunk and they were still in the bus. All from the horses mouth.  Lizzie feels so sorry for herself. She is not being treated like the narcissistic queen she would like to be treated like. I do feel sorry for her husband, most of all. He is clearly unhappy with her and the show. If she can talk about Christian and Shannon can talk about David with such nasty remarks, why would they have anything nice to say about anyone else?  An eight year relationship for Tam and Vic. Vic has no problem ending friendships.  In fact, I think she is enjoying it. Maybe obsessed with being the only OG in the OC. Petty BS.  If Tamra and/or Heather go, there will be no story or wit or happy marriages.

Brenda.Maria
Brenda.Maria

@KMCoffey Lizzie was really who got the ball rolling. I'm glad the other women followed lead and confronted Tamra. Enough is enough.

FlutterBy
FlutterBy

@terry244 I don't feel sorry for any of them.....they knew what they were getting into when they decided to do the show...Shannon may not have gotten on the show unless she had a marriage meltdown...she was the one who told not just Tamra, but did it in front of cameras...do we forget that part?  That these women can say they said something in confidence but it is likely being FILMED!   Shannon is a well off lady who will get a great alimony package one day...some women end up on the street after a bad marriage....I would bet that in real life, Lizzie could count on her fingers, if she can count, how many friends she has including sneaky Danielle..she came from the pageant world where sabatage and backstabbing was the norm....she is a big yawnnnnn.....Heather undoubtedly wears Pink on Wednesday.....if you go back to her jr high years, she would be treatinv her classmates the same way...it is a lifestyle for her...act like you have no time for anyone who does not promote your causes, the main one being herself, and act and practice the craft of acting at all times....somekne important might be watching...

nexxie
nexxie

@Barbarajean 

Shannon is the most interesting - a little different from the usual Bravo fare.

Lizzie3
Lizzie3

Yes I totally agree get rid of Tamra and put some fresh faces in you know what they say out with the OLD!!!!!!

randrew
randrew

@Hadleyogram Bravo is throwing us a bone. I'd much rather have it back the way it was. :)

randrew
randrew

@LindsayG423 "Honestly, I would've been more annoyed at Vicki's dumb and dumber comment".  Me too! I couldn't get over her letting that go. Her friend sure was p*ssed off about it.

Zoeyg
Zoeyg

@LindsayG423 Thank you, yes, let's move on from the 'it was my birthday'...also why were they waiting in the van for 1 hr...I would give it 15 min if nobody was there, I would tell the driver it was time to 'GO'. I would have to assume that after an hr if they weren't there, they weren't coming...their loss.

randrew
randrew

@JoyintheMouse I'm really hoping that H is a pawn. I mean come on, Heather has got to have more smarts then that.

randrew
randrew

@Fayeth Vicki's scared of everyone, especially Tamra... why?? I have no idea.

nexxie
nexxie

@queenann100 Lizzie really did say some creepy things to her husband, but it was a clip without context - which is pretty much what reality tv is about I guess.

Kimberly07
Kimberly07

@queenann100 Agree queenann100. Normally don't believe anything that comes out of Tamra's mouth but due to Lizzie's drunken rant to her husband, and her lack of memory about the text she sent Tamra...I'm not sure. Love Lizzie, but she needs to let the birthday party thing go.

cars121
cars121

@queenann100 The slow trickle of new, additional information/video of prior events only now being revealed to viewers by the powers that be at RHOC, has you, me & probably several more viewers wondering plenty. Maybe the final episode will end with Vicki waking up next to Don in bed, realizing it's all been a dream. SMH while LMAO

QuesieSue
QuesieSue

@randrew    Well, Tamra does have the texts she and Lizzie exchaged on the night of the party. It's hard to refute that, and it's also hard to understand why Lizzie is getting everyone else all stirred up when she acknowledges that Tamra DID text her.  Did someone just tell Lizzie about boring houswives getting canned after their first season?

vanessa8690
vanessa8690

@suprafreshkid Tamra has no idea that the things we claim we dislike about others, is actually what we really dislike about ourselves.

nexxie
nexxie

@randrew @Hadleyogram I'll bet the Housewives didn't want comments on their blogs - a lot of them were pretty negative.

marivich
marivich

@Zoeyg @LindsayG423 Maybe he was waiting on their luggage or putting it in another van, it didn't seem to be with them.  It is hard to believe he didn't have a legitimate reason.

7seven7
7seven7

@randrew you've heard the mouth of that woman; and Tamra has been hateful to Vic MANY times.   Vic's right - Tamra would've gone for Brooks' jugular again if Vic spoke truth.

queenann100
queenann100

@Itokagi23 @queenann100 Yeah, that's what I said in my first sentence...I believe about 2% of what comes out of Tamra's mouth.  But the way they handled this whole thing, with bizarre untruths and ignoring of facts on all sides, has left me confused about who did what to whom. 

randrew
randrew

@QuesieSue @randrew Tamra's still on my sh** list and you're right, she did save the texts. Having said that I believe Lizzie did cause more drama because she might have heard something through the grapevine, if you know what I mean. ;)

Hadleyogram
Hadleyogram

@QuesieSue @randrew Just an observation, but during that conversation it was somehow twisted by Tamra to be about the texts, but that was not the original point.  The original point was that Tamra didn't call Lizzie to let her know she couldn't make it to her birthday party, I believe it was even Lizzie that called Tamra from the limo and that is how she found out Tamra wasn't coming. (I could be wrong.) We all have had that relative/ex-boyfriend/friend/co-worker at some point in our lives that deflects the actual issue, turning the point around to some other issue to deflect the original point.  Tamra is excellent at this tactic, but Lizzie is aware of this and brings her back to the original point... which pisses Tamra off every time.  On a side note, I was pretty appalled at how they showed how Lizzie did treat her husband on the night of her party.  Just awful, very sad.  I think Lizzie is very beautiful and smart, but why do these women think it's okay to treat their men so badly at times? It's not cool. 

lovesluv2
lovesluv2

@vanessa8690 @suprafreshkid That goes double for Vicki, Lizzie and Shannon who are always throwing bouquets at themselves. They each say how "loyal, honest, kind, funny, wise..." they each are. Shannon says "Shannon Beador doesn't yell." Not so. She raises her voice for all her insults to others and has yelled in almost every episode. If asking someone to leave is saying "GET OUT" then I guess Shannon yells. Vicki is really disgusting about her narcissism.  Proud of it. Vicki literally screeches and throws all friends under the bus.  Has to keep control ya know.  Lizzie will tell you she is so perfect and the wisest of all. Let go of the b'day BS. She keeps telling us how the problems could all be fixed by "listening to each other."  She never lets anyone speak, and always tramples Tamra especially!  I believe Tamra about the Eddie remark and the "Mexican Italian children Eddie could give her." That is truly a b tch thing to say.  Clearly "below the belt" if anything said in the whole season was "below the belt."  Then the remark about Eddie. Lizzie admits she said this but acts like Tamra shouldn't be upset or affected in the least, now but Lizzie denied it forever. Reeeeally? So it's OK to "go below the belt" with Tamra but don't say a word about Lizzie whose marriage problems were an issue from the first episode she was in. Tamra isn't mean unless crossed perhaps.  Who isn't?


Brenda.Maria
Brenda.Maria

@nexxie @randrew @Hadleyogram A lot of them did things the viewers did not approve of. They should have expected backlash on their ugly behavior.  Afterall, if you can be on tv demonstrating that behavior, why can the viewers not call you out on it?!

Brenda.Maria
Brenda.Maria

@7seven7 @randrew That is completely sad.  That isn't a true friendship if you are scared that your friend may bring your scary skeletons out the closet. Vicki has got to grow up.

cars121
cars121

@queenann100 @Itokagi23 Turning TB into the person who cried wolf.  She's fabricated & twisted things so badly & so often that now, even were she telling the truth, WHO would believe her?  Kharma is spades.

qtrwatcher
qtrwatcher

what is in the text Heather has about Lzzies dress? We haven't seen that yet. Plus Tamra has admitted  to NOT remembering things she says and does when she drnks. Now we see that Tamra told everybody about Davids email.....soooo

7seven7
7seven7

@Hadleyogram EXACTLY!  Tamra is so good at gaslighting that even the brilliance that is QueenBee100 misses it.

mrsdonut
mrsdonut

I'm a little confused. I understand the whole texting debate (which seems like a diversion, to me), but I thought the real reason why Tamra was ticked off at Lizzie was because during the Valentines game they were playing, Eddie picked Lizzie as the one he would "Shag". (according to Lizzie, it was to "Marry"). Lizzie said that right afterwards, Tamra's attitude towards her changed and that's when Lizzie said, "you're just mad because Eddie picked me to 'marry' ". Tamra claims Lizzie said 'f---'. What's this fight about, again?!!! LOL

Kimberly07
Kimberly07

@Hadleyogram @QuesieSue @randrew 

Tamra thinks she's slick and tries to twist every topic to cover her tracks. Remember on the balcony at Lizzies dinner party? The issue at hand was whether Tamra told Shannon the Debrow's were out to get the Beadore's, yet somehow Tamra twisted the whole thing to make it about the email from Shannon's husband and how she only told Heather out of concern. This was just her manipulative way of diverting the conversation to from the real issue at hand that particular night, which was her telling Shannon lies. Tamra only brought it up at the dinner table to beat Shannon to the punch.

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queenann100
queenann100

@7seven7 @Hadleyogram I assume that was for me.  Sorry, I just don't believe in the whole "gaslighting" thing.  You can quote all the pop psychology you want, but to me it just sounds like a great excuse to blame everyone else for your actions/behavior/problems.  It's the stance of the perpetual victim.  You are completely entitled to your opinions....as intentionally snarky as they were....and I am entitled to hold mine.  

7seven7
7seven7

@mrsdonut and isn't this the game that Heather instigated?  Heather is like the Roadrunner in a very old cartoon. 

Kimberly07
Kimberly07

@mrsdonut Tamra's jealous of Lizzie because she's younger and prettier than her. It's so obvious, and Lizzie hit the nail on the head in the upcoming preview when she called Tamra a very insecure woman.

lovesluv2
lovesluv2

@Kimberly07 @mrsdonut Why should Tamra be insecure? She and Eddie have been through a lot and are still happy.  That is obvious. Tamra realized perhaps she isn't prepared to have another child so that is not an issue.  They are happy. They are always touching each other and laughing, so are Heather and Terry.  Shannon and Lizzie obviously have unhappy marriages and have told ALL of us, on camera.  Remember? Why did she do that on camera and then blame everyone else but herself???  Gads, that is ridiculous.  Her yelling at David during their dinner.  Hey, I thought that was really cringe worthy, even sitting in my own house.  Lizzie did the same with Christian and then says Heather hit below the belt.  Wrong, it was on camera, we all heard it.  How does she think we didn't hear her?