It's so great that finally other people are cheating. It's not just me anymore! I'm always this villain -- but everything that I've done, they've all done. Yet I'm always looked at like the bad person. But whatever, it is what it is. There’s got to be a villain. I'll take it. I'm the mule. Of course I'm not going to sit there and say "ha ha ha," now that Tom and Katie are in my shoes. But it's like they preach this game -- and they all have done what I've done. They just hide it better than I do, I guess. You're going to see how this all plays out.
With any relationship you are in for four or five years, it starts to get, I don’t want to say stale, but there comes a point where you are either going to move on and get engaged or you are going to end it because it’s not going anywhere. I know Tom. He doesn't like to get into drama situations. He gets anxiety really easily. He gets nervous, so I think for him, to make such a drastic change in his life, he would rather just sweep it under the rug. But that rug is starting to be like a big hill now.
I love Katie, but she's a woman. And she's 30 years old. She's not getting any younger. She wants a family. She wants kids. I see both points -- I see her point and I see his point. I think that if Tom doesn't want these things, he should say, "I love you, but I need to do my thing, and I know you're ready to get engaged, get married, and have kids so you need to figure that out." I think they're at that point. Katie just needs some kind of assurance that he wants to get married because she feels like she's wasting her time.
It sucks to be confronted about it and to be in the middle, but it sucks worse to see Katie going through all this. As much as you've seen Katie and I not getting along this season, we only didn't get along because of a certain someone. She is Stassi's friend first and foremost, and I understand that. But I do feel bad. I've lived this. I know what it's like. It's not a good feeling. And to be in these situations, I wish I didn't know the things I do. I'm the type of person that some times lets things slip that I shouldn't let slip, hence Miami which I probably shouldn’t have opened my mouth about it. But I wasn't there. I didn't see anything. This is all just hearsay.
We're all grown men. We all make our decisions. At the end of the day, what tom does is his business and what I do is my business. If he needs my advice (I don't know why he’d ask), I would give it to him. I'll help him if he needs it, but I'm trying to sit back this season.
Even though their relationship looks good on paper, I don't know what's going to happen or even now what I think should happen. They're in two different places. Tom's been my friend for ten years. I know in his mind, he feels like he needs to be financially stable and have a good job and all of his ducks in a row before he can be married. We live in LA where everybody's trying to be something. He feels like he doesn't have anything stable in his life as far as work so he feels like he can't afford marriage. But Katie wants to know if it’s going somewhere and have a family. She just needs some information. Hopefully they can come to some conclusion.