Jeff: “I have shared everything with you”
Truth: Jeff has done far more projects without me over the years than we have done together. He has found and partnered with other investors on many more projects that I could list. He simply has not shared everything with me.
Jeff: “I made you."
Truth: My work speaks for itself. I have been in the design field and had my business longer than Jeff and I have worked together. I have a body of work well above the projects that Jeff and I have done together. I’ve been in the business for over 10 years, Jeff’s design business is about 8 months old.
Jeff: “Ryan was using my name to advertise and get people to his website."
Truth: Per Jeff’s request, and in an attempt to help him out, I purchased a website for him. My office and I spent weeks putting together everything for him. Since I already had an established site with many visitors each day, I added very clear and prominent links from my websites to Jeff’s – and he knew about these. My website sent tens of thousands of people to Jeff’s site over the months that I had links up for him. About 6 months ago, he changed his mind, and asked me to remove all links from my site to his – which I did. I took them down and removed his name from my sites & advertising the very day he asked me to.
i'm glad things did not work out between you and jeff. he doesn't deserve your friendship. i'm sure you know what he did to jenni and i'm sure you can feel her pain. he is a very sad person. so much damange
I hope all works out between you and Jeff - you both have known each other way too long to let something like this get between your relationship - I wish you all the best and take care!
I love the show and have since the first season. I do have to say that I hope the two of you have put everything behind you and are still friends?? what is going on to you talk to eachother??
I agree with you. There is always two sides to a story. Although, the views are from that person's perspective, not making you wrong or Jeff wrong. The problem is that the both of you stopped communicating and then things became less clear to each other. You can't change how he feels. You can lay out facts and he can lay out facts but the bottom line is how each of you feel about what has transpired and how you interpret the facts. It is a shame that your friendship has been ruined but I don't believe your are as innocent as you are portraying yourself to be and I don't believe that you are as evil as Jeff feels you are. Bottom line: somewhere in the middle lies the truth!
Ryan, I was ready to write you off just like most of the flipping out fan club, but after reading your blog I am starting to see your side as well. Like Jeff said "there is plenty of design business to go around". I hope that you and Jeff can work things out because obviously working together as partners and friends for as long as you have, has been lucrative for both of you. Besides if you move Chloe would miss her favorite playmate Jeff!!
Hang in there, Ryan. As you so clearly stated, your work stands alone. Remember that you cannot reason with a madman.
Ryan hang in there. There are many people who believe and support you. I wish you continued success in your business.
i hope you and jeff can still be friends at least, please let him visit and stay in chloe's life. jeff is a good person. ryan you are jeff's sensitive side. i enjoyed watching both of you work together. please put business aside, your close friendship is more important. i heard both sides, i like you both very much, but i believe jeff is right.
I know that you and Jeff had a past, and I am sure like you I try to be civil to my ex's, but there comes a time in one's life you need to move on and cut the ties - Sometimes life gives you a hand that is telling you to move on, and you have been dealt that hand. I don't know if you will move to Santa Barbara or not, but it's time for you to grow your OWN business and let Jeff do his own and cut the ties.
It's not always simple to do, but now is the time he might be and ex but as we grow older in our lives we need to spread our own wings and move on, and sometimes it's not easy we just need to do it not only growing as a person but you also have your own family to deal with and move forward.
I believe that sometimes holding onto the past isn't always the best thing to do - cut ties and move on!
Hey Ryan, Unfortunately, ur in a tough spot. No matter what you write, ur writing after the show's been aired. No one will know the truth between you two- even the two of u. You both believe what you believe. Perception is the key.
The only thing u can hope for--- if it's worth it 2 u and Jeff is 2 move past this and still be friends in the future. Or frankly, just move on without him.
There's no right answer.
sorry to hear about you and jeff...watch the show and really feel sad to see two good friends fight like that.....it appears all trust has gone from your relationship...what to do?...patience i guess....if not...move on....i have great empathy for you and the situation...peace
Ryan, I hope that you and Jeff can work this out between you. However, maybe you guys needs some off camera time to work it out. I did notice yesterday that you took the high road. I know this is a tough economy don't let your and Jeff's friendship become a victim of this economy. Best of Luck.
I hope you two have got things all worked out since this was taped.
You guys are too good of friends.
Don't let something so silly get in the way of such a good friendship.
Good post Ryan. I liked you from the beginning, but when Jeff started getting suspicious I kinda jumped on the band wagon and got paranoid along with him. I see both sides of your story and I also know Jeff didn't exactly give you a chance to speak and explain everything. Thanks for clearing it up and sharing your side of the story :) I wish you both the best of luck and I hope something can be worked out between you two! HUGS FOR CHLOE!!
I found myself mad at you after watching the show last night and am glad that I read your side of it and am just sorry that you guys can't keep your friendship going after all the time invested in it. Chloe is adorable and Jeff should not have taught her terrible things even though they seemed funny at the time. You are a great father and a great designer and I wish you the best and hope they continue to follow you on the show. I wish your family the best.
So sad that business got in the way of a beautiful friendship. I hope for Chloe's sake both of you can work out your differences.
I knew from the beginning of this "issue" between you & Jeff what was going on. Seriously, Jeff is just mad because he's not as busy as you. That's it. And I'm sorry if it hurt Jeff's feelings but it WAS a smart business move you made. You saw your strength & the market shifting, so you put your plan in action & marketed your strength. Nothing wrong with that! Jeff didn't change quick enough & the truth speaks for itself. It's pretty black & white to anyone who a "non-OCD all about me" attitude.. Go Ryan...Good Luck in all that you do. You're amazing & so is your work..
I think business across the country is so off-everyone is tense. one thing you need to explain to Jeff is you have different priorities and choices to make as a parent. Singles don't get the responsibility and how we sometimes have to focus on the future-needs and wants change. It's a new day-take a breath and work it through. Jeff is feeling a little left out on a lot of levels.
It is always a hard to mix business with pleasure and the wounds that are there seem deeper than it normally would if your both were just business partners. I hope all is well with the both of you while you grow the passion of your careers.
Thanks for clearing it up ... or at least explaining your side. Much appreciated. Apologies, but we viewers can only respond to what we are shown. And, of course, what we are shown is devised to make us react.
I would NEVER be in a reality TV show, BTW. Not worth it! If you really are serious about getting peace and quiet for you and your family, perhaps you should get off the show. Seems like your design business will not suffer.
Good luck with your move. Santa Barbara is gorgeous.
I liked you very much for the show and think you are very talented and balanced in your life. I think you work hard at that balance. The show did lean toward Jeff's precetions and I jumped on the band wagon and was very sad for both of you. I am so vey glad you cleared up this mis information. I hope you and Jeff remain friends becuase I think he needs you. I wish you and family all the happiness. Be well!!
I was wondering why you and Jeff broke up. I could be wrong, but I sense you 2 still have feelings for each other.
I really hope the two of you can work things out. I do feel sorry for Jeff he is like me in on sense. Change scares us. And I do think so of his hostility is the fear of change.
I believe you Ryan, and I also believe that Jeff THOUGHT he was right. Getting in his way was residual feelings about the economy, your huge success vs. his recent bad decisions, not being able to flip houses, etc. I also think he's subconsciously very worried about losing you (and the way you acted with the "A"-list client did show a change in you).
However his accusations are probably unwarranted. I hope you don't move away just because of your partner or stress. Move to a quieter suburb in LA. We'd miss you too much on the show. And I hope you and Jeff fix the friendship.
Ryan,You are choosing your words very carefully. Jeff's comment was NOT "I made you", but rather, "I made you rich", and he did, by including you in the flips that he did, as well as the show. When people "googled" Jeff's name, why would they think that they were on your website in the first place? You said so yourself, you didn't say anything about Jeff not being involved when the link took them to Brown Design, and you deliberately did not mention Jeff's name. I'm sure that Jeff was overwhelmed by the numbers of people just visiting the site, and that is why he wanted you to cancel the link from Brown Design's site, but it is much different than having a link to your website after people googled Jeff's name. THAT, my friend, is FRAUD, and just plain BS for anyone claiming to be a friend, much less a BEST friend. I liked you, but you have changed. It is very plain to see, and as psycho as Jeff can be, he is not the one that has changed.
Hi Ryan I will disagree with your knowledge of if someone is looking for something or someone. A GREAT SALES PERSON WILL WIN THAT BATTLE. So my thing is why are you using Jeff's name and it leads to your website. Baby if you are that good you don't need his name so fix it. That is the only thing I think you are WRONG
thank you ryan, i truely believe when your seeking answers they present themselves...i am currently working with someone who gets the deals and i do all the sweat equity and the clients are more than pleased with my work and often comment i should just do this on my own...i've decided to do just that an have started the process..i can take some clients with me and i have a million reasons why i should and have run them though my head over and over again...and then the one and only nagging one pops up..." do i truly want to be that dog that bites the hand that fed me?" yes, i did the real work to put the kibbles in the bowl, but he gave me that bowl....finally tonight i can lay down to sleep without running the same questions thru my mind. you have shown me what i don't want to see myself as as a friend, partner, person that lacks dignity and integrity, that my close friend would have to wonder when they're down i'm out... i'll start fresh and never have to set any record straight. thank you ryan, and in your heart only you know what jeff has done for you, are you a good friend? can you set that record straight for me?
Sorry Ryan. I was one of the ones that jumped all over you and it was because we only saw one side of the story. One of the main reasons I watch is yours and Jeff's relationship and hpw funny you two are when you are together. Should have known as "nutty" and "paranoid" Jeff is there had to be more too it. Again, Sorry. Jim
Ryan, if you're going to set the record straight, you need to start with why you set up www.flippingout.com, which has the heading "Bravo's Flipping Out: Jeff Lewis & Ryan Brown's Residential Development & Design Projects", and gives the impression that it is both of you. However, the site has (not one and not two) but has three links to your website (brown design) and nothing that leads to Jeff Lewis. In my opinion that is slimy and not something you would do to a friend and business partner.
Also, in your blog you use the comparison of Honda and Mercedes. However, it is more like Cadillac and Chevrolet. What if Chevrolet bought the site www.gm.com and only had links to Chevrolet and not Cadillac. I bet Cadillac would not be happy.
Love to see how you are going to weasel your way out of this.
Between the two different stories lie the truth. Please don't be the bitter ex-wife and keep Chloe from Jeff. They crack each other up! They are good for each other as well (aside from the Chardonny and Hooters jokes).
Have all of you forgotten that he gave NO CREDIT to Jeff's contributions to Valley Oak in the magazine????
That alone is grounds for dismissal. Nice try, dude.
Ryan, you are SO full of it; especially your little Honda/ Mercedes analogy (or were you going for a quip? If you were, it didn't work - and not ONLY because Jeff would be the luxury car...) That logic might work IF you didn't run around telling everyone that you two are business partners! If I called to buy a Saturn but got connected with GM I would STILL assume that I could get a Saturn from them because they're partnered in the same company. You are shady (at best) and worst of all disloyal, and it seems you're quite proud of yourself about it! How incredibly rude. Plus your smirk is unbecoming, ugly even.
I can only hope that we don’t have to see more of you in the future. Oh, and that people see you for the snake you really are.
NOT a fan.
Ryan, Thank you for setting the record straight. Not fair to have to defend your work ethics to the entire country, sorry.... :( I hope you and your family much happiness and success. The viewers will MISS you teribly as you are a breath of fresh of air in the show.
Ryan, you have not explained why you ended up with the A-list client that was trying to contact Jeff initially. A true friend would get Jeff on the phone--instead you kept the client for yourself. You should've called Jeff and told him who was trying to contact him giving him a chance to respond--but clearly you did not do so.
i think Ryan always seems to be smirking during scenes because they are making up the tension on the show. I could be wrong, but it appears like he is about to burst out laughing. With that said, I hope they work things out because I do think Ryan is much more level headed whether it is real or put on. I do like Jeff because he is entertaining. Of course, Jenni rocks, love her!!!
I'm glad that you decided to give your side of the story. I know that normally "taking the high road" (in a media sense) means keeping quiet but in this case you did need to speak up for yourself.
I'd like to point out a few things. We, the reality show psycho's, your viewers - will never know the true story. However, a few things are clear to me.
A lot of people would not know who you were if it weren't for Jeff's show and that's just the truth. However, after looking at both of your websites, you are clearly the more talented DESIGNER. Jeff is clearly more talented at re-construction (if you will) and flipping.
You both are talented men in different areas. I hope you choose to try and maintain a friendship and just put the business partnership aside. The business partnership makes for an unhealthy competition.
You both clearly still care for one another - perhaps not in the romantic sense but in a friendship sense. Don't let money hurt that friendship.
Btw, Chloe is the cutest thing on the planet.
I am glad to hear your side. However, I have always felt, from day one with this show, that you hold some resentments toward Jeff. You always put him down, always pointing out his flaws and you're just always so negative towards him. If you haven't after all this time addressed the problems you apparently have with him, it's probably best for both of you to move one. Jeff deserves much better.
It's very sad that ten years of friendship seems to have gone down the drain. I don't doubt that you did not mean to take business from Jeff BUT lets be realistic obviously being in association with Jeff must of helped your business.
Hope that things between you guys get resolved.
I may have bought your story, or the odd choices that you selected for 'setting the record straight' (which you didn't), if you were less excited about getting a phone call from the A-List Star that Jeff didn't return the call to. You seemed delighted to tell him, in an eager sort of way. That speaks to something else going on. That's where it began, for the viewers. Integrity came into question right at that point, and don't believe that you were honest. Sadly, your responses and and your actions didn't match through the last two episodes. For those who truly watch and listen, as Jeff's gut told him, you simply didn't play your cards above the table. It will be karmic, my friend. Karma is always an honesty seeker.
Best to you!
One thing I believe you did admit to was paying to use Jeff's name on say google so every time someone searched Jeff's name your web site would be on top as you where paying google to use his name. Which Is very smart on your part I just see it since you 2 work or have worked together so much is kinda unethical.
This was tough to watch because it was sad to see a true friendship fall apart. I hope that you two make your peace in private and not let money or the potential for money drive a wedge between the people who are important in life.
Ryan, I can't understand why people are so quick to take Jeff's side of the story. It appears to me that part of Jeff's personality is to find fault with others, to portray himself as the victim. It seems there is always someone he is gunning for and this time I guess it was you. I think everyone has seen how Jeff can become easily angered over nothing many times over the past couple of years.
I also find it funny that he thought people would contact your company through your website, thinking that they were reaching him, when your company is clearly named Ryan Brown Designs, not Jeff Lewis Designs.
Good luck to you, I hope you do move to Santa Barbara and get yourself and family away from the drama. I know that Jeff has his good points, but sometimes if someone is going to drag negativity in your life, it is better to minimize that relationship.
P.S. I can only imaging how Jeff would have reacted if the tables were turned and you were teaching his daughter the things that he taught yours.
While your detail oriented summary is appreciated by this viewer, I'm sorry, it is not convincing. The facts stand on their own merit, and I don't think Jeff is being paranoid. At the end of the day, if you are really honest with yourself, you know some of your actions and/or lack thereof, warrants Jeff's suspicion.
However, viewing your website did lend itself to disclose your talent as a designer. I think you've designed a brilliant website, and I liked many of the designs.
In a viewer's opinion, I think you are ready to spread your own wings as a businesman, independ of Jeff, and should try to do so harmoniously. Perhaps your are torn about your decision due to the many years, and experiences Jeff and you shared, but follow your dreams.
Jeff and your leadership, management, and overall business styles are very different, thus, conflict will always prevail as you move toward expanding your design business, and Residential Development Firm, as indicated on your website. Additionally, on your website you made mention of the Bravo Flipping out show, and your brother as a partner. Nowhere was Jeff mentioned, which one could percieve that as your desire to terminate all dealings with Jeff in your business. Also, your decision to move to San Diego indicates you are ready to move on, and away from Jeff. You need to be okay with that decision, explain to Jeff off camera, and live your life. Someday Jeff will understand that the game of life changes when you become a parent with a family.
Best of luck with your future endeavors.
I think judging by Ryan's body language he was pretty much telling the truth. I do not think he would do anything malicious to Jeff. I think he is a good businessman and may have taken advantage of his relationship with Jeff, but not in an abusive way. If I was calling to deal with Jeff, I would make sure that Jeff is one that I dealt with. Who would call with the intention of having Jeff do a design and just settle for someone else?
I want to say that I love you guys.. I love love love the show. As I watched the episode from last week, I was sadden to hear about this whole confusion on you stealing business from Jeff,but more upset about the friendship.I really hope that the both of you can get over this and move forward. I love watching you both and I think the both of you work so well together. Both of you have been friends for a very long time, please don't let this ruin your relationship.
I hope that jeff and you patch your relationship up. You guys are great together and it is so obvious that you really do care for each other at least as friends. I think you would be lost without each other. Hope it all works out .
Ryan, I do not think that you are lying. I do believe that Jeff is reacting from your split, whenever it happened last year or... I do believe that you two just need a little time apart. You are obviously the level headed one while Jeff is "from the brain to the tongue". I can feel your feelings for each other, they are very strong. Jeff is obviously still in love with you and he really loves your daughter. I do see a little of Jon & Kate, Plus 8 going on here. Jeff being right in your face and you just trying to maintain a calmness; after a while it gets to be too much and you just want to rest.I wish you and Jeff the very best you two really belong together. I wish that I knew what all has happened since Season 1, I just started watching Season 3.