Welcome back my friends. After an episode like this week's, I need to remember Stuart Smalley's affirmation that "I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, people like me!" Remember, if you can't laugh at yourself, you can't laugh with others.
It's annoying to see Carole talk about me behind my back, and I wonder why she never confronts directly. Funny, I don't ever remember being condescending to Carole in London, do you? What does a girl have to do to be friends with Carole? I can't seem to win no matter what I do. Even though Carole and I have different personalities, I hope we can find a middle ground as time goes on.
There's something a little creepy about Aviva setting up Sonja with her sex addict father. That's like saying, I'd like to set you up with my brother who has a little shoplifting problem but you like to shop, right? Weird.
I frankly think Carole is trying to make LuAnn look bad. I'm not sure if it's cattiness or jealousy, but something strikes me as "off". I must agree with an earlier comment, it's as if she's definitely being competitive with you. I also noticed that she did make some jabs behind your back, and I'm not sure why. it makes her seem insecure, and it made me actually think of her as ugly when I actually appreciated the "image" she'd presented on the show up until that point. On the other hand, I wondered why she would care if a dress was loaned to you by her designer-friend. At first I didn't get it, but then I did. She arranged for the introduction, and it's because of this introduction that you visited the her friend's showroom. It's likely she felt that if you did arrange to meet up with her friend it would be for a purchase. In fact, if you had arranged for a purchase, it would've indirectly made Carole look good, because the dresses are highly exclusive and pricey, and she had arranged the introduction. Instead, you had asked for freebies or a loaner, so in effect Carole indirectly was responsible for you getting those freebies, and that somehow has her feeling as if she should've never made the introduction. It also may seem as if you're attempting to encroach on her friendships. Some people share friends, and the more the merrier, while others are disturbed if their new friends or acquaintances get chummy with their established friends. Another note, Carole implies that her friend is a class act. In the case of the loaner dress this trait had been reflected by the fact that a dress(es) weren't refused to you, but Carole wished you had the comparable class to insist on paying for them, or waiting for them to be offered to you, rather than requesting one or more for free. You were a model, and there's nothing wrong with wearing the dresses. I'm sure they look quite fabulous on you. Ranjada (sp?) was even attempting to say that, but carole attempted to drown out her words, because Carole was furious. She felt her toes were stepped on. Her rationale seems to be that to request a loaner or free dress of such an exclusive designer is to imply that you'll be on the red carpet and all the photographers will be all over you, and everyone is watching what you are wearing so it's worth for the designer to provide the loaner, because any cost will be offset by the number of dresses sold as a result of the person who received the loaner dress. Carole brought up Michelle Obama to stress the point of the type of "celebrity" or public figure who would reasonably receive a loaner dress. Now, since Carole never asked her close friend for a loaner dress(es), this likely made your request even more disturbing to her. she wouldn't place her friend in such a predicament, because it's her business, it's what she does for a living, so why should she gt one for free,and if she shouldn't, then why should you?
I personally don't know how I feel about it. I would leave that up to the designer. I'm guessing they thought the dress looked fabulous on you so, why not?
Haven't you ever noticed that any time someone says something was done all in fun, it really wasn't meant to be? Really bad form to have Ramona taste her own wine at what was purported to be a French wine tasting, very much in keeping with the hazing in those very proper private schools.
I just want to say that I feel that you have changed since you got divorced from the Count. You seem more wild and you seem to look down on people more. You weren't like that when you were married to him. Please we have enough phoniness with Ramona on the show don't chime in with her on that. There's nothing worse than fake people. I don't know you've just changed and not for the better. SORRY-BUT I BELIEVE IN TELLING THE TRUTH!!
Seriously, Carole is definitely competing with you but that isn't a bad thing! Just keep your cool and you will prevail. As far as Ramona and the wine thing - tell her to get over it! It was fun and quite honestly if she couldn't pick out her own wine? I didn't like the comment made by Mario about "the french accent"! That was really rude.
Do you ever go back to your hometown to visit? I think you need to remember where you came from. You were not born to royality nor do I think you know all the rules from having married into it for such a short time. Seems snobby and condesending, like your opening line at the beginning of the show.
LuAnn, get over yourself. Everytime you say countess, I gag. And do you own anything else but those brown boots?
LuAnn...don't sweat the small stuff. No one should have to constantly think of where they are standing, how they are walking, and how they are holding their head. Carole is competing with you in a subtle way and is trying to stay unengaged with the rest of the group. Just leave her alone and smile dahling.
LuAnn, wow I feel badly after watching this past episode. It seems like you were just making conversation with the girls and trying to conne t by relating similarities. I don't see you trying to compete with anyone. I find it odd how Carol is after you so much. I think there is more there than meets the eye. I also love Sonja but I don't get what the big deal is with you walking in first. I would never think twice about who was walking in first when I am out with friends. Maybe not a great idea to test Ramona's wine in case she failed to recognize hers, as it would have been embarrassing. However it seemed to work out so hopefully they can let it go.
You did purposely step in front of the other ladies when entering the restaurant in London. Initially you were behind them as the scene showed. I think your insecure and in need of a lot of attention and that can be annoying. Carole seems confident, modest, secure, low maintenance and basically a no nonense type of woman.
Carole seems like a very high maintenance woman to me. If she were not, she would mind her own business.
"Friends tell me my eye brows are fabulous". You sooooo remind me of the character Mrs. Elton in Gweneth Paltro's movie "Emma".
So true!! But please give credit to my FAVORITE author who is responsible for this quote. Jane Austen is the BEST author in the world that wrote this book in the early 1800's. Emma is only one of her fantastic books!! You are so right to recogize LuAnn is much more Mrs. Elton than the countess title she's so fond of...
Andrea71321 Also a bit like Lady Catherine "If I had ever learnt, I should have been a great proficient." A bit of a self-promoter.
LuAnn, Just when I think it isn’t possible for you to do it again, you do. You’re relentless! How dare you and that bourgeois boyfriend of yours pull that stunt at that garish wine party he hosted? It was a faux pas of biblical proportion, but it did prove once again you have what it takes to be the assertive Funtard which you diligently profess to be this season. Good for you!
You'll never make everyone happy. If it was a mean spirited trick, I'd chalk it up to Ramona's karma.
LuAnn, I realize this is a backhanded compliment, but I like you more this season than in previous seasons. You seem happy and I loved how up for everything you were in London. Don't let Carole (who I do like) get you down!
I honestly have a hard time believing you made Ramona test her own wine for "fun". Come onn who are you fooling?? plz...
You were hoping she would criticize her own wine and that she would look bad on tv.. But instead you're the one who looked pretty sneaky and mean in this situation.
when i had seen Ramona testing her own wine i thought it was just plain lighthearted good spirited fun... nothing mean at all, it was cute to see her and her excellent skill at work. Peace all!
It would seem, on the surface, to be lighthearted fun....until you see LuAnn standing behind Ramona and laughing ...gawfawing as she sips the wine. It wasn't lighthearted fun, it was mean-spirited.
How laughable that you take offense at others who talk behind your back!!!! How conveniently you have forgotten how often you talked behind Bethenny's back in previous seasons.
You are a beautiful woman; drop the pretense and affectation!!!!!
LuAnn I have to ask,do you really read all these comments from viewers and really watch how you are acting in these episodes? Or do you only see and read what you want to as long as you look good in your eyes?
Sadly, Lu is so self-absorbed, there is no room in her mind for feedback from others.
What she believes/feels is her reality.
She's really a better dressed version of that Theresa of NJ housewives.
(although Theresa actually works)
With all the other "wives" in comparison you're starting to come out on top in my book. You and Heather are definitely above the silly, petty antics of the others.
Why do you feel as if it's always about you? You were condescending... not just to Carole, but to all the girls... maybe Carole doesn't care to be friends with you just as Heather doesn't care to be friends with Ramona.
Doggone it not everyone likes you. You have no idea how arrogant you come off. You've been that way since the beginning. I'm buy the just trying to have fun with Ramona explanation. You tried to humiliate her and you failed.
I don't think it's as much about who gets to enter the room first, as it's about the fact that you sometimes sweep in in front of people.
In the London clip, Sonya was walking in first, but you "cut" in front of her. Sounds childish, but it's annoying when someone keeps on doing it. (I have a friend who runs ahead of us, to be first at everything. Annoying.)
@Hecuba I'm so glad you and some others have pointed this out because running in front of everyone to be the first to enter is completely irritating, especially when you are supposed to be equals on a TV show. LuAnn pretends she doesn't know what she's doing. She must think the viewers to be idiots. I highly doubt Sonja would make a stink about this if it weren't reoccuring and clearly deliberate.
LuAnn--stop hiding behind your "countess" title-- you use it as an excuse to cover your petty behavior. You have become this season's Jill Zarin, and I thought you were better than that.
LuAnn, I have been watching the show since it first appeared. You always are poised, elegant, and a class act , not to mention absolutely gorgeous. I sense a little jealousy from the other women.
LuAnn...when you realize that not everything is about you, you'll probably have more fun. What you did to Ramona was wrong. You know it, we know it just admit it, apologize and move on.
You do try to "one up" people all the time. It's just that Carole is saying something about it...albeit in an immature and funny way behind your back. You know about that stuff right? You talk behind peoples backs all the time LuAnn and you think you're better than them.
Stop with the Countess crap and just relax a bit. You seem like you could be fun if you could only get that stick out of your butt!
Luann pls don't complain abt someone talking behind your back, because that all you ladies does %85 on the show.
That is your problem, Luann. You DON'T laugh at yourself! You put on airs and take yourself very seriously! If you did have a sense of humor, you would admit that, yes, sometimes you are snobby and cling desperately to your "Countess" title!
It's not surprising that you don't remember an instance of being condescending considering you come across as condescending at least 3/4 of the time you are on screen, you are probably blind to it by now.
Carole has a down to earth attitude, you have an elitist attitude. Carole is witty, you're snarky. Carole is easy going, your act prudish and outraged most of the time. Opposites don't always attract, sometimes they just repel.
Carole copes by staying detached and unengaged with what is going on. This will end up seeming boring and sad. She is merely an observer.
I agree with your comments about Carole. She seems hell-bent on trying to tear you down behind your back. In my opinion, she's making herself look bad, not you. I don't remember you acting condescending to her at all. Maybe her perception is just whacked. I mean, you weren't one-upping her, either. You were conversing. That's how conversations go.
I will say this, though. You're by far one of my favorites. But I did think that it was just plain wrong to set up Ramona the way you did at the wine testing.
Sea7777 Sorry to disagree, but that's *not* how conversations are supposed to be conducted. One actually needs to listen to the other person, listen actively. not just wait for a tiny pause and then add a "Me, too. I did that. I did it better, or I had more siblings than you had." I'm responding now to the prior comment and also to the episodes we've watched. Both Luann and Ramona have shown an inability to listen to another person, to hear that person, to avoid adding oneupmanship competitive comments. Their poor manners are especially noticeable now that new ladies have joined the show.
When Heather spoke to explain that her child was so seriously ill, Ramona responded by describing her trial when giving birth to Avery (who's now about 18 years old). But Heather was not introducing a topic of difficult childbirths; she was describing an ongoing real concern with her's son's health.
When Carole or Heather say anything in Luann's presence, Luann responds by trying to compare herself, instead of listening to the first comment. Learn how to respond in a conversation so as to show interest in the other person.
Strive to be kind, courteous, and concerned for others more than for yourself, Luanne. Consider that Sonja was correct that you push by her to enter restaurants first. How much attention must you call to yourself? Think about it.
BarbarainNY I so agree about the "I can top this" attitude. Some people respond by matching or one upping. Others, who are truly interested in what the others are saying, try to draw them out, to get them to elaborate on their statement. "My mother had 5 children." LuAnn in an ideal world..."Were you the youngest, oldest or?"
This is not the Countess I remember from past seasons. It is unlike you to play tricks on people. I am usually a fan of your but your behavior at the wine tasting party was mean.
It's not what you say but how you say it. Your replies back are extremely condescending. The problem with you is you don't seem to care how anyone feels. People tell you that your rude, thoughtless and your only reply is "They must not like assertive women!" No, they don't like rude women. You need to really hear what people say and not put the blame on the other person when it very well can be you! Let Sonja walk in the first, we all saw the video of you trying to drag Heather out in front, just let someone else have front and center. It's not all about you all the time. I'm not sure why you're bugged that Carole is talking about you behind your back. You do it to them. Those in glass houses... And you also did borrow something of her friends. She wanted to discuss it as well as you being a twit in London. Here is how a proper conversation goes if you're trying to get to know someone and not one up them. C- I wrote a book. L- You did, that's very exciting! What's it about? How did you enjoy the writing process? C- Well, it's about the time when I was with my husband when he had cancer and my friends and working at ABC. And writing was so hard at times. L- Oh wow! That sounds so interesting! I would love to read it. I wrote a book on manners.... That I myself never follow but expect everyone else too! C- Hahaha! I'll have to get that! (not) See how much you would have learned if you had some common ground?? Not that hard...
@viewer99 Why thanks... I was trying to pretend LuAnn was me perhaps... Having a conversation as a normal person would. I'm pretty sure she doesn't read these but I had fun entertaining myself. I hope you were as well.