London Bridge is falling down, falling down, falling down; London Bridge is falling down, my fair lady!
Wow. . .I guess I'm better at dealing with jet lag than other people because I had a great time in London, in spite of the time change. I was stayed in good spirits throughout our trip. I'm always up for croquet, shopping, sightseeing, and I really enjoyed spending time with the girls.
I'm going to be nice and attribute Carole's increasing irritability with me to tiredness, because while I was feeling fab and ready to have a great time, she was obviously feeling drab. I think Carole needed a good long nap because she was acting shall I say, less mature than usual!
Apologies I live in the UK so we are only just watching Season 5 now....... I have a question and do not wish to be rude,why do Americans seem obsessed with titles and royalty????
Luann does not even have a title which is recognised by the french!! She would be classed as a social climber in the UK, having class in the UK must mean something totally different than in the US. With all her name dropping and oneupmanship that she constantly employs would be deemed as crass and vulgar.........In her own words "Money can't buy you Class"
Certainly true of Mrs de Lessepps!!!!!!
I didn't see it as one upping, just seemed like a friend sharing her stories. If one is looking to find something to criticize about another, they will find it no doubt.
Maybe it was the editing, but Luann sure gave them a lot to work with on the one-upping front! For the first time this season I found Carole unlikable . . . she had a point, but acted out in a really immature way.
LuAnn you do come off as a having-the-last-word-know-it-all......insecure....putting others down to raise yourself....remind yourself you are a lady and take the high road and realize there is enoug room on stage for all of you....this isn't a competition.....watch how others just know how to be themselves without being so polarizing....really you can handle it....otherwise you will end up like some of the others who are no longer on the series...take a hint sooner rather than later
You talk about the other girls behind their backs all the time. When you see it happen to you, you don't like it. Maybe practice makes perfect Miss Manners.
Oh that green eyed monster on LuLu when the Yummy rep called out the princess in the room. Countless LuLu had the look of the Hulk!
I agree with Vlmassiv1... your countess title is nothing compared to Carole's so drop the act. You're just jealous and that's all you have left to show for. And most of the world would rather buy Emily Post's book over yours without a second thought.
I see that an all-but whole new crew is on to your two-facing and pompousity. Someday, although I doubt it, maybe you'll really take a good look at yourself and be honest about the way you present yourself. You are NOT a Countess, nor was your husband a Count; you carry courtesy titles. French speaker that you are, I'm sure you're familiar with "la fausse noblesse" because that's where your ex-husband falls - and you were his FOURTH wife, for pity's sake. Why can't you just be proud of being a former model and an LPN that married "up"?
Call a spade a spade you are a one upper and it really turns people off. Even having to listen to it. It's not engaging. For someone who is supposed to have written a book on class or ettiquette (by the way Caroles was a best seller. Your was not) Your not doing vey well in that department..
Drop the whole countess act, you are divorced from the count, let it go already!! You don't see Carole walking around calling herself "Princess Carole". Smh!
Sharing life experiences is one thing, but did you watch the episode and see that it came off like you were trying to make your experiences sound better?
The thing about Carole, too, is that she owns up to her immaturity and admits she was tired and that was making her irritable.
Yay for hugs!
Instead of being defensive about what the ladies were saying, maybe you should consider it. I mean, we did all see it on camera. You are definitely a one upper. I think a lot of us have it in us to do the same, but maybe just be a little more conscious of it since other people are getting irritated by it. Don't be defensive, it's not that they don't like you, they just want to enjoy you more.
You should think about working on your insecurity. From your silly "title" dependence, to having to one up every conversation reeks of self esteem issues. Let someone else speak and try walking into a room second. Graceful self assurance is much more attractive on a woman.
Lu Ann, have always thought the best of you , but I think that Carole has a point that you come off as " One Upping " . Take the advice that Heaher gave and " Tone it down a notch ".
Please , watch the episode and really listen to what Heather was saying during the last dinner in London. She gave very friendly advice and delivered it with kindness.
Luann,Have you ever considered the fact that not everyone wants to bow down & kiss your feet?Carol did not have jet lag,she just see's right thur you & doesn't like who/what she see's.And then you go on to say someone(Carol)needed a nap,what is she 2?Who are you to think its your place to tell how someone feels?If anyone is inmature it is you & your whole attitude over Carol,so what like you have said in the past about Rom,not everyone is ment to be friends.Leave it at that.I have never seen someone on any of the shows as 2 faced and nosey as you are.When ever something happens your the 1st one there going whats going on?When Romona & Heather were fighting(really Heather kept following Romona to talk) you ran to Romona and said whats going on with you & Heather?She told you and the 2 of you laughed and you acted like her friend.But then you ran to Heather &asked the same thing,but you add that no matter you were on Heather's side & you 2 laughed.That is 2 faced.Why is it that your always lurking around to stir the the pot?Which you are getting quite good at.You brought up how upset you were that they were talking about you while you were gone.You have done the same thing to every housewife at 1 time or another,now that you know how it feels,do you think now you could be the bigger person & not talk about someone behind there backs?Its not nice and it sure isn't proper Etiquette,I really do think you should re-read your book,there are alot of things you wrote about not doing that you infact do.
tamarahope The immaturity of the "taking sides" ! Countless LuLu declared her position on the mean girl teenager side!
Sorry for the conversation with a bunch of nit-wits. Once the girls have the nerve to tell you what they think about you, instead of speaking in code. Take it in, and move on.
Love you Luann! Keep it classy, you always do!!
You see only what you want to , delusions will get you No Where DARLING....
by the way please don't ever use the word gansta again!
Luann, I hope you do see what the girls were saying. I don't think they were being mean. Let's face it ALL girls talk behind each others back. It is all in how you do it, mean, nasty, hurtful, loving, caring, concern, etc.... You are one classy lady no matter what anyone says. I love the new ladies they have great chemistry with you. Ramona is off her rocker...
LuAnn, this was the first time I was a bit embarrassed for you, because you really were one upping. But we all have issues, none are perfect. I think you were having a good time in London. The ladies at the table werent being cruel by speaking of you, I think they all just saw the tension with Carole and were trying to address it. Carol just wasnt interested in being with all of you for that many days. Some people can only VISIT for a short time. So, she was in a crappy mood the whole time. Im sure it irritated you that she was irritated the whole time.
About the One Upping. I think you owned it on WWHL. You humbly saw it and didnt deny it. Im sure you will work on that. I like that you explained how you grew up and had a hard time getting a word in edgewise. Still, you didnt seem to happy at how you portrayed yourself and as I said, Im sure you will work on it. I love seeing you on the show!
SandraLynn I missed the WWHL. Glad to hear that about Lu Ann. It's great to watch people learn and grow. That's why I like Vicki Gunvalson.
ISo glad this season you are standing up to Ramona its about time people called her out on her rambling. Half the time I can barely stand to watch the parts that how her talking over and over about the same things bc she is just so jealous that she cant let it go.
Besides dating Jacques, what does Luann do all day? NOTHING!! She has to let everyone knows she's done something besides marry a count, have two kids, and be the girlfriend of a younger man. Everyone else in the group has a successful career. Luann has the memories of a past life she no longer lives. Maybe she doesn't feel relevant around the girls, especially, Carole.
Haukku Agreed. I think Carole eclipses them all and it makes them feel like they have to keep up lol, Sorta funny seeing grown women act this way,
I don't care what Luann does or doesn't do for a living or career, thats her choice. I just don't like the way shes been acting this season. She needs to calm down and hush up.
Krock THIS! Sonja has her phony baloney toaster oven/party planning/entertainment business; 'Mona sells jewelry, skincare, wine - she is the personification of a walking garage sale; LuLu "wrote a book" and has her i-tunes songs. It seems to me that the three new ladies all have substance. Heather has a legitimate business, Carole is a best-selling author and Aviva has a law degree and chooses to be a stay at home mom. Kudos to the three new ones.
Money apparently has not bought you class. I could not believe you hugged Ramona and then ran to Heather to gossip. You should have told Heather, DROP IT ALREADY! LEAVE RAMONA ALONE YOU DID ENOUGH BY NOT INVITING HER.
Loved the weird little hair flip when Heather was talking to you at dinner, you got the message didn't you. You are coming off as a Mini Jill this season, not becoming, hope that will change.
I didn't see you one upping either. When I first get to know people, probably for the first year of the friendship, it's a discovery process and I have many expressions of awe about what we have in common. I feel that perhaps Carol might want to distance herself from her title and you embrace yours and her title is also associated with a husband whom she lost at a young age, so the entire thing may sting a little. Perhaps you could avoid that topic. You are very gracious, 'peace at all costs' in some ways, so I know that it was innocent, but I'm guessing it's sore.
I think Carol is smart, funny and highly entertaining. I think she is bringing something to the show that has been missing since the departure of Bethenny Frankel.
Zocola, we all have our favorite housewives and if Luann is yours, that's great. But let's maintain a reality check here. Neither Carole or Ramona are jealous of our Countess. Ramona is annoyed by the Luann's snideness. And Carole is put-off by her name-dropping and one-up-manship. Luann has many lovely qualities, but in regards to their gripes about Luann, they're not that off-point.
hope You and Carole make amends or find peace with eachother maybe you two can become good friends.. until next week!
LuAnn, from what I saw you went into the London trip with a great attitude and were only being friendly, polite and demonstrating interest in what Carole had to say by sharing your related experiences. Perhaps it was editing, but Carole seemed far more into talking about herself with you simply keeping the conversation going. It seems the women are infatuated with Carole and therefore giving her a pass. It will be interesting to see how long it is before she comes in for her share of criticism. You're all such interesting women with extraordinary opportunities. It's amazing how much energy goes into petty backbiting.
You are a team player, It looked like you had a great time in London. I love that about you. Carole should have stayed in NY because she was a drag the whole time.
I actually believe you are a good person, Mom and Wife, but you come off like a little kid whose parents ignored them, so you constantly have to tell everybody what you think will make you be like them, and make them like you. It isn't even one upping, it just comes off as annoying and in everything else, you really do have "class". Just sayin....
LuLu it's all in the delivery. There's a way to share your commonalities with people without sounding as though your version of said commonality is better than the person with whom you are sharing. For example: "my mother had 5 kids"....could've been followed up with "really? I also come from a big family. I have 6 brothers and sisters.", instead of "my mother had 5 kids", "well MY mother had SEVEN."......it's ALL in the delivery.
I'm going to be nice and attribute this perfectly timed, hilariously self-congratulatory blog to some kind of brilliant performance art project you've been gradually building through the years. Man, you make me snicker. Bisous, ma petite puce!
Seems that's why you don't like Ramona, right? I think she's pretty brash and insensitive - so I don't blame you- but I think you should mosey on over to Carole's blog and read what she has to say about conversation.
There really seems to be a lack of sincerity about you when you're speaking with some of the women. When you speak with Jacques (sp?) or your children, it's really rather different/ Your exchange with Carole seemed as though you were offering up a checklist of things you both have done. That's not really communicating on a deep level or attemting to get to know someone. It definitely sounded like one-upsmanship to me.
Also, the "dahling" thing gets old quickly.
OMG. I can't beleive that you are saying that you can't beleive that the girls were talking behind your back -- You do it all the time, with joy. Maybe you should look back at all the shows to refresh your (older) memory.
LuAnn, I think you're fabulous! I know it may have seemed like "one upping", but if someone says, "My mother had 5 kids," I think it's natural to mention that yours had 7, or to share that your brother also has twins. I think you're a good conversationalist and that you draw commonalities between yourself and others to keep the conversation going, but I guess they were a little sensitive. Oh well, I'm glad you had a great time, and you looked lovely and classy as always!!
You owned up to one-upping on WWHL, and saw how annoying it was. I don't think you meant it, but it is terribly annoying. If you can take yourself out of the mix and look in with a sense of humour, you can see that Carole handled it by showing you what you were doing... in a comical way. The girls were talking behind your back, but when you returned to the table, they told you they were. It wasn't mean spirited, but you were getting on their nerves... own it and improve on yourself. I actually admire that about you. You're able to hear what people are saying and apply it (sometimes getting your back up at first, which is normal). Often conversation doesn't involve finding a common topic, but rather learning about the other person by letting them talk.