Overall, I am not proud of this episode. It is full of drama, strippers, and gossip, which are words I would never use to describe myself or anything I would want to be associated with. That doesn't mean I am sitting on a high horse thinking I am better then it all. It just means I am embarrassed by it.
I know I touched on this a bit in last week' blog, but it's worth explaining again since it is being shown again. Tamra, Vicki and I never should have left the girls at the restaurant. It was a mistake and I know it was wrong, but the moment just kind of took us. Vicki had been talking about Andale's all day long. After dinner when we were standing outside waiting for everyone, she asked me if I wanted to get a drink. The other ladies had made it pretty clear they were done for the night. As we were leaving, Tamra walked out and we invited her to come with us.
Once we started walking for a while and I realized that the bar wasn't actually "around the corner," what was I to do? I texted Heather. I also called the restaurant and asked the hostess to tell the girls to meet us at Andale's. If you look closely at the scene, I even bought Heather and Gretchen headbands. I genuinely thought they would get the message and meet us at the bar. We shouldn't have left them, it was wrong. I take responsibility for that. But, it wasn't like we tried to ditch them. That was never my intention.
Just thought you might like to know................Heather did not write 4 pages about you and strippers!!! You need to get over yourself!! You are the one who likes drama. I mean really upset because someone says you need to eat a cheeseburger!! You are weird!
You say you do not want involved in "drama and gossip?" You do that or at least instigate that very often. The cheeseburger scenario didn't need to be repeated and enhanced upon in the limo. Be careful Lydia . . .
I really don't care for you. It was a joke and how you acted in Mexico you kind of are a mean GIRL! It is sad to see someone who is so beautiful and bright to be so hurtful, mean and down right cruel.
You acted like a total bitch in the limo ride the day after you left Gretchen and Heather. That is the bottom line. You were the one that said the insensitive comment about the night before, and then you snapped at Gretchen about giving her your first born child. I know you have apologized in your blog, but what speaks louder in the moment is your action. You ought to be ashamed of yourself. Then, you all sat back as Vicki yelled at Gretchen. For shame.
I knew anyone they bring on the show has to cause drama or no one would watch. What I do not like is when you and Alexis claim you are Christians and then act like you do. You told Gretchen you were sorry about leaving them in the restaurant and did like it when she seemed not to accept your apology then you did the same thing after Slades comment. If you say you do not like drama do not start it. If you do not know the facts stay out of it. You need to watch yourself and realize what you do because you are not fooling anyone. And I am sorry I do not see much difference in dancing on a bar so men can lust over you or having strippers in your room. Be honest with yourself and if you want to be what you say you are ,do not sign up for next season.
Smart move on the strippers! I have seen bachelorette party strippers many times before but those were the most aggressive EVER! It's one thing when your getting paid to be touched, and quite another to be fondled by the help! Anything for the camera.
I hope you decide to stay with this crazy cast another year! You and your Mom (and that handsome hubby Doug) are enjoyable to watch. What's there to criticize about fairy dust???
Lydia you are seriously my new fav OC housewife. You tell it like it is, RESPECTFULLY, and you are just a lot of fun too. You are so sweet and I hope this is the real you! OC needed someone just like you. And honestly, I think your cool smooth attitude are in part a result of your mother's hippie ways combined with how you said you were looking to religion for security. Its cool how that all seemed to help you come out on top in the end. Love you Lydia! PS- Love the one liners about okay "I see you for what you are". Those are really good. Say your peace and keep it moving. As Ms. Nene Leaks says "You can READ honey".
I am glad you told Slade that his comment about the cheeseburger was rude. I get it was supposed to be a joke but clearly you did not think it was funny so he shouldve just apologized. And the comment was rude. I am skinny and I hate it when its the main topic of conversation and people are making comments like "do you ever eat" or " Im giving you a cheeseburger". People may not think its rude because they see being skinny as nice. But people would never ask an overweight person "what do you eat" or say something like "Im taking cheeseburgers away from you" because thats rude. I think people need to understand it works both ways and its rude to say to someone skinny.
Good call on skipping the strippers. That was DISGUSTING! I don't call that entertainment. Tamra didn't appear to enjoy having her face smashed into one of the guy's crotches, and Vicki kept saying "no" while one of them was rubbing up against her. Watching a strip tease would have been very innocent compared to what was going on at that party. Gretchen seemed to be the only one enjoying it. Gotta wonder about her!
Lydia thanks for apologizing for leaving Gretchen and heather behind. In my book once an apology is offered - it's up to the receiver to accept or deny...obviously there are people here who would like nothing better than to throw you to the sharks...BOTH Gretchen and Heather have displayed ugly behavior more than once on this show - being the drama queens as they are, and have NEVER once apologised. heather's condesending attiude grates my nerves - just when I'm prepared to give her a chance and believe I see a noble side to her - she douses it with ice queen attitude. Last night i actually heard her cackle when she laughed...Please! Girl and you are a girl - a young lady - who will learn quite a bit from being on this show. I respect you for living your convictions...you were not interested in being there for the stripper show...no one has a right to judge you for not wanting to participate - that's your perogative...just as it's theirs to want to. To anyone who wants to continue to chastise you about your decision .. GLAZE OVER...and let them know their's nothing more to discuss..."it's not your bag!!! And, Gretchen's excuses for her smart ass remarks is getting old. _ GROW UP GRETCHEN... If I were Tamra I'd be a little scared of gretchen - her behavior is becoming more Like STALKER- STALKER then friend. She needs to accept it - Vickie and Tamra have been friends for years...gretchen looks pathetic and desperate...oh that sounds like Laurie's tagline too- maybe those two will hook up....
I wasn't sure if I liked you at first Lydia, but I actually think you are growing on me. Good for you for standing up to Slade. He is a major douche who speaks down to women. I don't know why people think that his comment was in any way appropriate or a compliment. Many people that are thin are thin because they are ill or cant keep weight on, they don't want attention drawn to it. Not EVERYONE thinks that this type of comment is a compliment people! I was just plain rude, as most of Slade's comments are. If he would have called you fat, everyone would be taking a whole different attitude.
You did not over react to Slade's comment- you called him on it. A "man" that comments so often on the physical appearance of women is shallow petty and not very manly - he was being rude and you had every right to call him out.
Slade has a lot of nerve not to own his part in the Vicky Miss piggy reference. Shame on Gretchen for defending his bad behavior. I never knew the internet and miss picggy comparison till Slade made it a public part of his pathetic stand up routine which was recorded for this show to air on several continents. Slade and Gretchen are not owning it - yet they are making a point of everyone owning their own crap .... Hypocrite much?
Keep being you - you rock. Love your mom.
Definitely a bit hypocritical to get mad about Slade's obvious stupid joke...and then talk about Gretchen behind her back "Malibu Barbie"- who, btw, was upset with Slade for offending you and made sure he apologized. I also have to say, your claim that Slade is the reason Vicki got surgery. Vicki is the reason Vicki got surgery. A God loving as you are, you sure give a lot of power to Slade. So ridiculous. And saying nobody has every joked around about how thin you are...you're a liar too. You've reached out to all of the girls about out making peace with Alexis. Yet, when Gretchen was hurting, all you did was act like a b*%#h! Wake up girl. Stop judging. Remeber this: "Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye."
Lydia, I do not feel that you have been with the Housewives long enough to know how things have been handled between each person. You have heard Vicki's BS about Slade. Now you decide to go full steam after Slade for a stupid and not a big deal comment. I was not impressed with your mean girl BS. Just stay out of issues that you were not there when they went down. You say you are not into gossip but you sure are listening to it. Go hang with that messed up Vicki. Just so you know, Gretchen is a good person and Alexi loves to blame everything on others. Your day is coming with your good friends!
You seemed to overreact to the whole cheeseburger thing. I'm not a big fan of Slade, but it was really not that big of a deal. I think you we're looking for something to attack Gretchen and Slade for, perhaps subconsciously.
I couldn't agree more. He was giving her a compliment. Most skinny girls like her pick at their food. This girl can eat and not have to worry about it.
Sally12567 im skinny and get comments like that all the time and it doesnt bother me at all. Its a compliment and most people are just saying that because they are insecure about themselves. And slade was just chiming in on the convo he wasnt "whispering" about it and he clearly was trying to explain to you yes that exactly what he said he wasnt denying it and was trying to explain to her why he said it and she was like ohh sweet easy target to bitch and complain about.
What was up with your reaction to Slade's comment on last night's episode? it appeared that his comment touched a "sore" spot with you and your weight...it gave me the impression that you have something to hide about your relationship with food.
I'm having a hard time with your attempts at convincing us that you aren't judging. If you weren't, there would be no need for repeatedly saying that you aren't judging. I like a lot about you Lydia,- your positive lightness, your joy, your obviously big heart. I do feel sad about how hard you work at what appears to be perfection, and longing for perfection in others. Perfect behavior; friendship between all the women, despite their obvious differences; insisting that people always be direct ( some folks need time to process or vent, even out loud to friends, which doesn't have to be labeled talking behind your back); speaking authoritatively about others when you obviously know little about the history involved in situations.... Then you appear as a hypocrite when judgemental name calling happens, such as calling Gretchen "Malibu Barbie". I remember a time when I thought I knew what others were thinking or saying about me and people I care about, making assumptions and letting my ego get the better of me (the way I see you do), and it pains me to think about the energy that goes into that. I've learned to let go of that behavior and accept people and what they say purely by what they choose to say directly to me, without worrying about or demanding more. If they are judging me or saying mean things behind my back, it's on them to live with. Karma is a bitch, and I can relax by not focusing on others motives or behaviors. Energy is much better spent on what is working in life, and nurturing those things. I hope you are enjoying the blessings in your life.
You are just more of the same old...I thought maybe Bravo was bringing in a new member with a fresh, positive attitude. You really are no different than Slade, you chastised him for being critical and mean spirited to one of the women and then you call Gretchen, "Malibu Barbie" after she defends her partner. I can see right through that "Christian Veneer" to the self righteousness that you seem to back up with a bunch of antiquated dogma instead of a true humanism. I'm already bored with you!
AnnZo yea she reminds me sooo much of alexis. Acting liek a goody too shoes and saying shes all godly and a prude every 2 seconds. She acts liek shes above everyone when i can see right through her BS.
All strippers aka Entertainers aren't bad people . Im a christan, and used to be one. Jesus knows whats in your heart.
Then understand what's in Lydia's heart. She is not into that type of entertanment - respect her decision. I don't think she is judgng the other women for their decision to participate. Everyone is different. I'm sure there are porn stars that are good people too, but hoenstly I find it disgusting. Sorry, but that's my perception and I'm allowed t have it - just like I do not enjoy watching wrestling or boxing - it's too violent in my eyes..I realize that they are not bad people either ..it's a way that they earn their living ..... Everyone is different. We do not have to agree on everything. i thought when Lydia's left after dinner - before the event's started - she did it politely and with class...
dragonslayer mrsd@13 13 She didn't leave with class. She bullshitted everyone and was like uhh i have to go call my husband. Instead of saying I dont feel comfortable with the strippers and im going to bed. The girls wouldve understood and not pressured her. Even Heather was uncomfortable with strippers so she sat away from them and took pictures and was a good sport. I think Heather dealt with it with class.
you don't mind dissing someone in a foreign country, that's okay with you. However, you get real mad when someone (who wasn't talking behind your back) called you cheeseburger? Really?
WOW! You are really looking to stir the pot. Why were you so antagonist to Slade. I seem to have heard him imply an apology but you've kept it up. Another trouble maker among the group. You fit right in with Vicki. Two of a kind.
Lydia - seriously, you come off very sweet and innocent, when in fact you stir the pot but are sneaky about it. You throw comments out there and then when people jump on them, you back off saying that is what you heard. Don't be like Vicki and be the sneaky mean girl.
Lydia, I SO get your issues about people commenting on your weight. I have always been very small and petite as well. A VERY overweight woman I work with continually called me skinny minny, after awhile I gave her a taste of her own medicine and called her fatty mcbutterpants, and guess what? She did not like that at all and the boss called me into his office because I made her cry. And Slade has no class so consider the source. You are right, Darling Doug could give him a few tips!
I know you love your mom and she is just lovely, she is my age, and I'd rather smoke some pot and be happy and creative then have some alcohol and cry about,, oh, nothing. Let her smoke, at our age she deserves it, wish it was legal here!
I just have a few words of admiration...way to go you call as you see it...remember not to let others poor behavior mold you....to thine own self be true...
OMG you are such a baby!!! the cheeseburger comment come on.... YOU ARE TRYING to start a fight...
and what should you of done??? how about say "girls we came here together, lets just wait a few minutes for the other girls" what was I to do!!!! BS think for yourself, which i think you were.. just trying to put your wrong off on someone else
Stop trying to explain, you made a mistake. We all make bad decision without thinking about to much until its over. So you are not as perfect as you think you should be. We all are sinners and fall short of the glory, and from time to time we mess up. You did the right thing and apologies. Now its on them forgive forget and try over.
Lydia is so out of line with this last episode making assumptions and knowing a person by a comment that you got offended by. It's clearly seen that Slate didn't mean it the way you took it, but you were already in a defensive mode because of what happened with Gretchen on the trip. Girl judge when you know the entire story or just stay out of people's business if you only going to listen to have the story.....I liked you at first but I am thinking it over especially after how you handled this last episode. Something must be up with that!! Watch and see....
Lydia, I think you enjoy causing trouble while putting on a sweet innocent face. I've seen girls like you, you stab people in the back with a sugary sweet grin on your face.
OMG Lydia, I had no idea, not a clue about who and what you are. I thought you were a sweet little thing but after watching you set up and knock down Slade, I got the picture. Two girls had talked about your weight unapologetically but when Slade tried to give you a nickname you went all psycho! Why? Do you have any idea how hard Vicki and Tamra tried to destroy him over the last few years? Any idea at all, little miss perfect and judgmental? You are not at all a friendship whisperer...you are a sidewinder with plenty of venom to spew the minute you get your scales in the door. Very, very sad.
Lydia, You lack empathy and you think that an I'm sorry should be sufficient. Your treatment of Slade and Gretchen at the salsa party was horrible. For someone that likes to keep peace and preach about love and kindness, you need to take a look in the mirror. You aren't very nice.
Turning into just one more rich bitch that won't own up to her part of the drama. You new it was wrong but you id it anyway. Your apology doesn't fly when you acted so ugly about how upset Gretchen was. And the Salsa episode. OMG. Slade wasn't dissing you. He didn't make a snide comment. If you are so honest admit you have a problem when people point out how thin you are. Geez. I am glad Gretchen took you to task on your pulling Slade through what Vicki's motives were for plastic surgery. I am not a Slade fan but you were way out of line.
My new hero!!!! Thank you jesus!! Someone finally put Gretchen and Slade in their places!!!
I think you like to stir the pot and use "I am just honest" as an excuse! When you first came on the show, I thought you where quite level-headed and insightful. Now, I see a whole different side of you and how you "manipulate" people. You were talking about "your feelings get hurt" quite a lot, so maybe everyone should just say, "Sorry" and you can just get over it! NOT!!! "Do unto others..."
I have to say that I am not a Lydia fan. It was obvious from the very beginning that she does not like Gretchen and after tonight she has the same animosity for Slade. She is not above the drama, she has started some of the drama. Just saying.
Lydia on WWHL, gag, one question, when you left the restaurant, you knew you were leaving Gretchen and Heather right. So calling made it okay, or where you afraid Vicki would leave you behind if you didn't skip on down the road with her.
Sophomoric at best, girl, you need to be careful, those pots you keep stirring will boil all over you.
bluebayou Yea I think she was afraid to be left out so she went with vicki and then to cover her a** she was like well ill just say a few times we should call them and grab a few extra lighting ears and then I wont be blamed for it. She's not a good person at all and she thinks how to cover herself so she wont be blamed.
kelsey30259 bluebayou Lydia "claims" to be so direct in her relationships, however when Cheeseburger Gate happened, she had no problem with calling Gretchen "Malibu Barbie", behind her back of course. I completely question her motives on the lame attempt to build back the bridge of friendship with the ladies except for Gretchen. I think she is so jelly of Gretchen. Like Vicki said "my plan worked" and I think Lydia was in on it from her first skip down to the bar.
Are you kidding me?? You don't have to apologize for anything!!! "Snake 1 " & "Snake 2" said very clearly " Vicky, if you want to go party to Andale, you go. We are going to bed, to be fresh for tomorrow city tour" . OK??? So, why is it wrong for the bride and her other friends to go out party just because the "hostess" want to sleep early? Give me a break!
I'm kind of wondering how Lydia even got cast on this show. She clearly does NOT fit in with this group and is just plain boring. Her husband is as boring as she is. The drama she created at the "dance party" with Slade's "cheeseburger" comment was nothing short of petty and childish. Really Lydia? You come off as thinking you are better than everyone else. Very prim and proper, when you're just plain boring.
So, it was not ok for Slade to make a comment about Vicky's nose, but ok for you to make a nasty comment about Gretchen looking cheap and fake (Malibu Barbie)? What a hypocrite. I thought you were pretty cool until this episode where you ripped Slade a new one.
Wow Lydia! Showing your true colors tonight are we? You were WAY over sensitive about Slade's comment. Did we really have to endure an entire episode of you whining about that? And how judgmental you are! Your comment about Gretchen as Malibu Beach Barbie was inappropriate ad well. Jealous of her beauty. What makes it all worse is tat you've spent the WHOLE season thus far forcing Alexis to turn the other cheek and rise up and be the bigger person and that forgive 50 times more or whatever. Your behavior tonight completely contradicted tat whole dogma. What a judgmental hypocrite!
Hey Lydia...pull your head out of Vicki's ass...and while you're at it...pull it out of Heather and Tamra's too.
You my friend have a very hateful heart. You might want to go smoke with your mom so you can be a better person. I have never seen someone stir up so much drama with a smile on their face as you do. You are not saving these relationships you are getting everyone to pick on just one person and that's Gretchen. Not a fan of yours!!!!!!!!