Whoa, this night was intense! Many of this season's issues came to a head on tonight's show. I express many of my opinions about the various dramas during the reunion, so I'm just going to focus on the things I was involved in tonight.
My poor mom. It's super hard for me to watch that scene unfold. I wasn't in the room with her when the whole Ryan confrontation took place. However, my brother and sister-in-law were there and they left right after because they couldn't believe what they saw. Although my mom is incredibly youthful and energetic she's not used to being out late and wearing high heels standing for so long. Vicki's party was a late night for her and she went inside to get warm, and put her feet up. It's not like she was Tom Cruise jumping up and down on Oprah's couch. She was literally putting her feet up. I am proud that my mom remained so calm when Ryan was yelling profanities at her.
I wonder if Brianna would have reacted differently had she seen what really happened. That said, I don't blame her for taking her husband's side. If Doug told me something had happened with another person, I would be on his side no questions asked. But the beauty of this show is that we can watch it back and see what actually happened. There are three sides to every story -- yours, mine and the truth. It seems to me Ryan was way out of line no matter what side of the story. Watching his face, so full of anger, and the way he is talking about my mom is disturbing. I have to believe his reaction has more to do with something much greater than the condition of their new couch.
I know this is late in the game, but I have just wonder if Ryan ever apologized yet? Or atleast Brianna? I couldn't believe on the reunion show that she didn't feel she should apologize. She needs help. Clearly he has some type of sick control over her. She seems scared to even speak her mind or give an opinion that isn't in line with what he has told her to say. So sad.
OMGosh. I'm late to this party as I'm just catching up on the past season. I can't even say enough about what someone should've done to that "young" man who trash-talked your mother. What a mess! You and your family behaved with grace in a difficult situation. (Poor Briana. WHAT has she gotten herself into? Whoa.)
Anyway ... keep walking out the grace. It's not easy.
You are a better woman than me. If he had spoken that way to my mother I would've totally lost it. He was way out of line. He is a time bomb and I think he might have PTSD. I've always given Brianna credit for being mature and sensible but defending his behavior made her look just the opposite. Of course, I lost respect for her last season when she lied about not being pregnant after eloping. I'm starting to think she has a low self esteem to put up with him. He is a disgrace not just to the armed forces but to humanity - cracking his neck and getting all huffy about a sofa he can't even afford. Every one makes mistakes but a wise person admits it and apologizes. Both he and Brianna need to seek professional help.
netsrik2000 Shut up..... This is old news. Nobody is talking about it anymore, except you and others with no life. #Removingnotificationsfrommyemailsincesomepeopledontknowhowtomoveonwiththeirlives
Lydia I really respect and admire you for sticking up for your mom. Your reaction was the same as mine would have been if someone talked to my mother that way.
First let me start off by saying Ryan was obnoxiously wrong in this situation, as well as many others that have taken place through out the season. I find it a little interesting that he said,"I own, I live here." Seems as though he has a sense of entitlement or "ownership" of something that isn't really his. Just because you pay rent to live some where doesn't mean you own it or have rights to it. The same can be said when it comes to his feelings about Brooks being there.
Second, Ryan tried to twist the situation and the words that were exchanged so he wasn't the one who was wrong. I mean I'm sorry Ryan but a couch is there to lay on, to put your feet on. With the women and their nice shoes and clothes it's impossible that she tracked in a dirt clod or anything to ruin the couch. I highly doubt Ryan even paid for the couch why does he care? Oh, wait... his sense of entitlement right?
Third, Vicki it's time to take control of your life and your household. Vicki's brother needs to step up and put Ryan's ass in check. I really don't think the newly married couple should have even been allowed to move into Vicki's home in the first place. Clearly it's nothing but drama.
As for the women who were wrongly attacked and belittled in this episode, you ladies keep doing the right thing. Lydia, keep telling your mom to sprinkle that fairy dust. She is a wonderful woman, and all the viewers can see where you get your wonderful spirit from.
Where were all the MEN around there when this was going on? Nobody wants to step on this hot heads little toes and think he's owed respect because he serves in the military or doesn't want to cause Vicki anymore of a scene than this unhinged jerk already had...well, that's why these types get away with what they do. The military should seriously have him checked out. He's not dealing with a full deck which is something I saw when he first made an appearance when he was 'downtalking' to Vicki basically telling her she could take a hike( in her own house) with regard to Briana and her getting along.
VICKI is afraid if she confronts Briana and Ryan firmly on Ryan's ongoing behavior that one day, she won't be able to see that grandbaby anymore. The writing is on the wall, Ryan is a loose canon and very troubled. Briana enjoys the power she yields over her Mom and while Brookes might not be the best....she uses that as a wedge issue to control her Mom and to keep THAT a distraction instead of really looking at the unstable man she married. I've lost a lot of respect for Briana and have none for Ryan.
Finally watched this show and I am shocked at what appeared to be Ryan's aggressive and disgusting behaviour out of the blue, for absolutely no reason . . .and for Brianna to be actually sticking up for him for swearing and yelling at a guest at her MOTHER's house . . . wonder what Brianna and Ryan thought after this show aired, because sure he didn't realize his mic was on and now everyone heard exactly what he said and what Lydia's mother did NOT say. It is clear from Vicki's reaction and her brother's reaction to Ryan, that this is NOT the first incident like this ! I think the best Vicki can do, is have them move out on their own, and she live her life the way she wants. And if Brooks screws her over, then it's her business. But I think it's pretty clear it's only a matter of time before Brianna and baby are back home with Mommy takin care of them . . .because if Ryan acts this way about a guest at a party at his mother-in-laws house, one can only imagine what he is like normally. I am afraid for Brianna - she married so quickly I don't think she really knew him, and now she has a baby by him. This was a boy full of anger and hatred and to use the excuse that he was going to Afganistan is so totally wrong . . Vicki needs to cut the cord and let Brianna find out on her own what she's gotten herself into.
Ryan is an embarrassment to the U.S Military. Such issues that little boy has, he has some major growing up to do! Briana run to the hills as fast as you can, that little boy seems like he can become abusive towards you or your son!
OMG Ryan - who the hell does he think he is? There is something wrong with this boy and it is he who should not be around children as he is unable to control his vile, vicious temper which he used against a grandmother! Breanna you are in for trouble girl and if you cannot see that after watching that episode then you need to see someone! If he was my husband and I heard him speaking like that to someone who was in my house as my guest - well no not even that - just speaking to a woman in that manner - I swear he would have been packed and out of there in minutes. Breanna is holding her mother to ransom because she says she will leave if Vicki brings Brooke around her family - well you should leave but I tell you what Ryan is far worse than Brook. This lad needs serious help!
Lydia, I was shocked/appalled by what happen to your Mother. Ryan, was 100% WRONG!! The ENTIRE Country saw that. Shame on him. He owes your Mother an apology. Praying for him & his obvious anger issues.
This comment is for Breanna and Ryan. Shame on both of you. Ryan, you need to do a serious self assessment. I was SHOCKED over how you treated Lidia's mother. That display was truly sickening. You were a total macho a&&hole - and to a 64 year old woman (!) whose only offense was to rest her feet on the couch! And that slip, "I own this house" - omg. Where do you get off. And then you demand that your wife and mother in law support you because of your relationship alone, in spite of the fact that you were WRONG and that you acted hatefully. Breanna, you have an acid tongue when it comes to calling your mother or Brooks out, but you turn a blind eye to your own husband when he acts worse. True courage is speaking out in the face of any wrong, no matter who it comes from. Vicki , God bless.
I just watched the episode with ryan and lydia's mother for a second time, and i am shocked and embarrassed for ryan, brianna, and their son. he is also an embarrassment to the usmc, and i find it very odd that they would allow this behavior on television. it reflects them a great deal. he was clearly out of line, and it even appeared at one point that he wanted to get physical with her. the good thing about a television show is that words and actions can be replayed and it was very obvious and clear that ryan is a lying hot head. i feel sorry for brianna.
I must admit I found his behaviour towards your mother shocking. Nevermind the fact that she was an invited guest, or that she is a woman older than himself and should be addressed with respect on that fact alone. It became evident to me that this guy is having understandable difficulty with the enormous stress of coming home to his wife, new baby and safety only to be re-deployed, back and forth and so on. One can sympathize to a degree but such abusive behaviour like that should never be condoned. I felt for his wife who looked a bit like a deer caught in the headlights of an oncoming car. Her loyalties surely are to her husband but she really should have stepped in and pulled her husband away to let him cool his engine. The arrogance and sense of entitlement he displayed in a house where he is a Renter may be part of his character, deployment stress or not. I actually thought for a moment that he was going to strike her! Her humiliation was painful to witness and bravo to you, good daughter, for standing up to him yet showing such restraint! Had it been my own mother I might have clocked him for speaking, or actually screaming, at her in front of all those people. BTW, I find your mother's quirkiness refreshing. Her philosophical outlook gives credence to the notion that everyone seems to take themselves way too seriously sometimes. Both of you are a fun addition to the program.
I watched the clip with my jaw dropped. I'm sorry but Ryan seems like a rude and aggressive person who over stepped his bounds. He had no right to throw anyone out of Vicki's house. He was not only aggressive but to portray so much anger to an elder. This boy should learn some respect if he expects to get any in return. I don't care how he said it was edited to make him look bad. You can hear the aggression in his voice. The only time Lydia's mom said the "F" word is when she asked him why he needed to keep saying it......yet he totally tried to say she was saying it to him? I call BS
Love your Mom!, Love you a TON (intentional ) but almost didn't when I thought you went a little overboard over Slade. He clearly was not intentionally putting you down. So glad you are over it and can socialize with him and Gretchen now. Brainna's man has definitely got an issue or two a brewing. I hope he apologizes to your mom sometime anytime!
Ryan has anger issues and needs help..Brianna is in such denial..Lydia's mom is the only real person on the show..she is who she is and I love her for her honesty..
With his rude and disrespectful behavior Ryan really portrays a poor image for the USMC. I wonder whether the USMC gave the OK for him to participate in the show and if so whether they screen what is aired publicly. He clearly has issues (that are even more apparent when he is drinking) and we see this over controlling, disrespectful behavior again and again with him. As a military officer myself, I am embarrassed that this person is representing our service members. Briana, I get that you must defend your husband in pubic, but he was out of line and needs to apologize.
I think you should be proud of your Mom. She is the epitome of "fairy" Grandmother! What a lovely Lady.
I don't understand Briana having such demands for her mother. Even though you pay rent that doesn't give you rights to say and do what you want. You are still under her roof and have to go by her rules while living in HER HOUSE. The only person that makes since is Vicki's brother. Briana needs to look at her own husband. What ever his name is he acted like a total idiot. It sounds like he is a walking time bomb. He doesn't need to go back to war might have some mental effects on him. SERIOUSLY!
Exactly. They're paying rent, not the mortgage. And regardless of that, Vicki is Briana's mother. She and her guests deserve respect. Ryan needs to get a grip, and Briana needs to wake up before she's living the life she's afraid of for her mother. It's like she's been brainwashed & doesn't bother to fact check before automatically assuming the worst. The minute Ryan hurls an accusation at someone it becomes a fact, regardless of the plausibility of it. That alone frightens me.
Lydia you should have put Brianna in her place and defended your mom. Ryan has anger issues and Brianna is being controlled!!
US Marine code creed of honor. Honor: Honor requires each Marine to exemplify the ultimate standard in ethical and moral conduct. Honor is many things; honor requires many things. A U.S. Marine must never lie, never cheat, never steal, but that is not enough. Much more is required. Each Marine must cling to an uncompromising code of personal integrity, accountable for his actions and holding others accountable for theirs. And, above all, honor mandates that a Marine never sully the reputation of his Corps. I think Ryan sullied the reputation of the Corps. What do you think??
Wow, Ryan's behavior was bad enough but then for that disrespectful brat Briana to defend his behavior was wayyyyy too much. I'm sorry but Vicki and Briana both need to get rid of those men and start from scratch. Also, what happened to Briana's job, wasn't she a nurse. I'm sorry but both Brookes and Ryan need to go.
How ironic that Brianna so passionately attempts to 'protect' her mother from Brooks when she is married to a hot head who appears to be far more dangerous than Brooks! Ryan is no intellectual giant and Brianna uses Ryan's military status as an excuse for his irrational behavior. It is almost laughable to hear Brianna smirking and smarting off to Brooks while her own husband is ridiculously disrespectful to Lydia's mother. Too bad Ryan didn't try that ignorant behavior on a man his own size. Brianna and Ryan are free-loaders and Vicki is an enabler. I am thankfully and finally feeling embarrassed by all of them and their boorish behavior....all of which makes me glad the season is over and there will be many more months before I regain my curiosity or remove the show from TiVo.
I actually listened to the 1min audio tape of Brooks and noticed a few things. Brianna's husband didn't seem to be offended at what Brooks said. It seemed like a big set up since we all saw how he lost it when you put your shoes on the sofa but not angry at all for the drunken statements that Brooks made about his WIFE or Mother-in law. The Tape recording was 45 mins but they have cut it down to a 1 min version for hype. The first 30 mins I'm sure was Ryan getting Brooks drunk and setting him up. Sleazy. Both Brianna & her husband want to be on the show so bad they will stoop to such a trashy thing.
Who does this Ryan person think he is? "The Man of the House"??? And his little slip of the tongue ....."I own (the house)" NOT. Ryan and his wife will never have anything more than double-wide and a cheese ball and beer life. This guy crossed the line by clearly and quite disgustingly attacking an elderly woman in someone else's home and then LYING about it. Vicky needs to wake up and kick those two free-loaders out of HER home. Imagine, Ryan and his wife trying to black-mail Vicky with threats of moving out if Brook's ever comes over. Don't let the door hit you on the way out....losers.
Ryan was totally out of line. I don't care about his stress level or whatever, purely basic rule is respect your elders. Briana needs to worry less about Brooks and worry about he hot headed husband more. That Freudian slip "I own rent this house" said plenty , his "manhood" is threatened to start with. The jerk makes me ill. Then at the reunion Briana said she had to get a bucket to scrub red wine and mud off the couch, but oh no she was not implying it came from Lydia's mother. Well, most likely not. She has enough class not to put her feet up if they were muddy. The wine could have been from anyone. And if there was mud on the couch, there had to be alot more mud on the floor. If you make a winter wonderland outside and have guests going in and out, it's gonna get muddy.
Haha, I said the same thing. You can take the boy out of the trailer park, but you can't take the trailer park out of the boy. It's really obvious that Ryan comes from a family with no money by the way he treated Lydia's mom.
Absolutely love your Mother's spirit. Ryan should be ashamed of his behavior as should his wife. As a miltary wife it sickened me to hear people excusing his lack of character and self control on his military career. It hurt my heart to see Lydia's Mother treated so badly. I cannot wrap my mind around Breanna's reaction after hearing the entire truth. Maybe she needs to focus on her own relationship a little more than her Mothers. Brooks doesn't seem to be just the only abusive man in their lifes!
Ryan...very sad to see how you acted. You serve our country and that behavior is not excepted. U need serious help. and Briana go get a life and let your mom live hers.
Lydia I would not follow you any where or buy your stupid magazine. Your a skinny idiot .
Peacefulrn Who's an idiot? Go read a third grade grammar book and look up possessive adjectives.
I'm sure Lydia is not to worried about you as a demographic for purchasers of her magazine....the demographic that can't SPELL or properly use GRAMMAR. DOH...I mean DUH. Crawl back in whatever hole you came out of and keep "looking at" comics.
I find Brianna to be very disrespectfull to her mother over and over again. It is no surprise that she handled herself the way she did regarding her own husbands behavior. Ryan's behavior to Lydia's mother was disgraceful. He clearly lied when explaining the situation after the fact. I could barely watch the loes. Both Brianna and Ryan need to go back to the basics and respect their elders. I think Vickie spent too much money on surgeries and " stuff" and not enough on therapy for her and her children.
Love your mother. It must of been gratifying to watching the episode where Ryan got In some lies! Your mother never swore. Then he has a slip of the tongue and I own me live here. He is taking the man of the house to far. Please he shoud have not been talking about Vicky to Gretchen and Slade. @vickygunvalson
being a military mom and wife i think he shoud b evaluated for mental issues that was a horrific scene against a woman his unit commander should watch that what a disgrace video dosent lie but he did
anniemak i was just thinking the same...how scary it is... he with a gun in other country where nobody can see how he might kill women just because he feel is being disrespected... SCARY!!!! Is there a way to share this episode to his commander? This behavior was not ok... at all!!! and absolutely agree with u he should be evaluated
Yes, he's protecting our 'country' but he needs to remember that in a social setting, he should not go on 'attack mode' - I sense there is some post traumatic stress at play and that Ryan will someday look back at the incident and recognize how poorly he behaved. Pray for our troops- they're underpaid and overworked.
To Ryan: you are a sorry, worthless member of our armed forces. It shames all of us veterans to see such disrespect of an elder.
I feel so bad for your mother. oh my God! Ryan is way unpredictable. Brianna hopefully seen the truth and will wake up. I think she almost idolizes him ,like he's the man of the house. or no, that's him that idolizes himself. he even said he was the man of the house. when ask who he was he said "I own/live here"...lol! he almost said owned. sorry partner but you need to go rent an apartment down the road. Brianna and Ryan want to keep saying they are paying rent. please, ok. what kind of rent? I'm sure you give Vicky a couple hundred a month to feel good but you will never have that lifestyle for that amount of money or someone with your wife and child while you are gone-LOSER RYAN!